Hi forumers,

I'm intended to make a review on a comparisons between the two latest HTC device because i'm having both in hands now. I think it will be usefull for some ppl who r having headache to choose between those two. (Coz i experienced it before until i end up bought both) the review will be merely based on my personal point of view, not very much technical (but i'll try to do it as much) . So, before i start, i wanna know if there is any objection on this. And maybe ppl can suggest what they want to know or compare.

Regards

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Now, my review:


Click the spoiler to view specs.

DHD


Pic of my DHD taken using my DZ


DZ


Pic of my DZ taken using my DHD.


[Credit for GSMArena for the phones specs.]

I highlighted the differences in term of specs, please refer to both spoiler above, the RED ones are the differences. Now i would like to point some comments on the specs differences:

1. Size and weight~~ does it matter?

DHD / DZ
Dimensions: 123 x 68 x 11.8 mm / 119 x 60.4 x 14.2 mm
Weight : 164 g / 180 g
Display: (LCD) 480 x 800 pixels, 4.3 inches / (S-LCD) 480 x 800 pixels, 3.7 inches
YES, it does matter. DHD is bigger, DZ is smaller but yet DZ is heavier? the main reason for the DZ weight is due to the aluminum unibody casing. But yes, it makes DZ tough and rigid! (might proteck u from a gunshot.. lol) but in term of size, DZ's is just right, and DHD is an average too big? i can resist the the odd feeling when i use the DHD, especially in public (feels like evrybody around can see what i'm texting to my gf ) Bigger screen, what good it brings to me? its only 0.5 bigger than DZ. I dun feels it brings much better browsing experience, coz i still grab my laptop when my eyes feels tired when i browse the net using my DHD. in my opinion, 3.7 is just the right size. and , this one i'm not really sure: DHD with LCD display, the DZ with S-LCD display, are they different? for sure super-LCD is better than LCD right?

2. Sound. DHD have Dolby Mobile and SRS sound enhancement. thumb up.

BUT, i dun hear any differences maybe i'm sound deft, but it just sound similar between those two device. btw, when i need sound enhancement, u just need a better sound system. e.g. higher end headset or plug it to the high end sound system in yr room. that time u dun need the build in Dolby Mobile and SRS sound enhancement, because it will be superceeded by the externel sound system device.

3. RAM

DHD / DZ
768 MB RAM / 512 MB RAM

= 256MB differences in random access memory. a big to DHD.

when u r choosing between DHD / DZ using this parameter, u really need to ask yourself what are u going to use yr phone for??

A. A gaming device
B. A phone and organizer and a bunch of apps to ease yr daily life.

Answered A? definitely grab a DHD. otherwise DZ will be enough. but again i need to ask, how many apps/games out there will push your RAM to the limit? im not expert in this area, but i think most if not all apps/game was developed to be run on average phones, 512MB is one of the highest RAM available on phones nowadays, thus it should be enough right, or is there any apps/games require more than that?

4. Camera~~ this is definitely will be a deal breaker for someone who is attempted to use a phone cum professional camera. (but a pro photographer will never use a phone as a photographic device, their expectation is too far beyond the capability of a multifunctional device)

DHD / DZ
8 MP, 3264x2448 pixels, autofocus, dual-LED flash / 5 MP, 2592х1944 pixels, autofocus, LED flash,

So look at the specs above. How can u use those specs to describe your pics? 5MP is good enough, no doubt, as ppl will not ask "is this taken with a 8MP or 5MP camera?" in term of quality, inspite of pic size, averagely the same. Please view the pics of the devices above, pic of DHD was taken using my DZ, and vice versa.

5. PROCESSOR~~definitely a deal breaker huh?

DHD / DZ
1 GHz Scorpion processor, Adreno 205 GPU, Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon / 800 MHz Scorpion processor, Adreno 205 GPU, Qualcomm MSM 7230 chipset

Processor=performance. so i think everybody are wise about this. but strange enough, based on my observation, the is not much differences in the performances of the two devices. but ya, i havn't try to run the heaviest apps on both phones. but i observe based on: lets hear a bit of my story. hehe

since i hv a DZ, i can see there's a tiny miny lag. for instance, when 1 slide the home screen to see between pages, i can see some lag during the transition, especially with contact, msg and email widget on the screen (sometime contact pics need seconds to load, and etc.. i hope u understand what i mean..lol) so, before i got the DHD on my hands, i was imagining things should be super smooth on DHD with the 1GHz processor..but when i got it on hands, hmmmm...very similar, if not un-noticeable improvement in the performance. F.Y.I, i said this solely based on what i see, so dun flame me on technical things yahh.. haha.. currently, my DZ running on MIUI ROM. it is smooth, and no more the lag issue. so is it due to the ROM build? but ya, frens, MUIU ROM is SMOOTH. i like it very much.

6. Battery~~major issue as for my own

DHD
Stand-by Up to 490 h (2G) / Up to 420 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 9 h 15 min (2G) / Up to 5 h 30 min (3G)

DZ
Stand-by Up to 430 h (2G) / Up to 430 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 9 h 50 min (2G) / Up to 6 h 40 min (3G)

today's portable phones are very powerful, multifunctional like it brings our every digital needs. but, short battery life hinders us to enjoy their functions to the fullest. am i right? gross comparison between the two device, UN-NOTICEABLE differences in battery life. but i will do some experiment on it. currently i'm charging both device to full, and after this will make the display on with wifi, data, bluetooth on for a period of time, lets see how fast the battery drains. anyone want to suggest how to benchmark the batteries?


CONCLUSION:

Based on popularity, DHD gained very much, but DZ seems to be quite overlooked. But why? Almost every aspects are comparable, and DZ is cheaper (and AP set becoming lot cheaper due to less demand), so which one to choose?
i think, ya, like everyone would say, the major dealbreaker is only bigger screen or a physical keypad.

Does that 4.3" screen accommodate your browsing/viewing needs, or do u still go back to yr laptop? so does 3.7" is enough?
Touch screen keypad, lots of typing error and it makes u lazy to text yr gf? hehehe.. so do u need a physical keypad?
In my opinion, the pros of having a physical keypad are, 1. Fast and easy to type; 2. when u browsing internet, u can slide open the keypad, and u can still view the fullscreen while typing, but when using touch keypad, the keypad takes half of the screen, thus limiting the viewing experience.

And again, regarding the display size:

4.3" display offer bigger screen space. but, the UI is same with DZ (yes obviously coz both using Froyo 2.2). so instead of the 4.3" offer bigger display space, the DHD just offer bigger buttons and bigger fonts. same goes to Galaxy Tab (i owned it before) is just a bigger Galaxy S. understand what i mean?



This post has been edited by un_id: Feb 2 2011, 09:37 AM

how bout comparing the DZ to Nexus S if you manage to get your hand on one. would really help me deciding which phone. thanks in advance.

Im only having DHD and DZ only mate. Cant afford to buy another one for the time being. Lol .. but maybe after i resell one of these. So stay tune. (If u can wait before u decide.hehe)

its okay im just asking. im getting either one by next week. hope to see your review before that. no pressure.

i go for DHD.
DHZ a bit bulky & heavy besides me less sms so keyboard not necessary

alright..if no objection by forumers, review will be out on monday..

thanks for yr view mate. i will talk on size and weight too later

You're one rich faka.. haha

my answer is simple

HTC DESIRE HD


p/s : smartphone with keyboard is not so pratical rite now..just my opinion...

No la..lol..going to resell any one of these

have u tried both? I did. And i got different opinion.

hey bro un_id, is it true that DZ boots faster than DhD even after complete shutdown ?

my dz boots like 0.5 - 1sec after the htc quietly brilliant thingy pops out..

un_id, i support u to do a review here

^ do not confuse/delude yourself with the speedy bootup of the HD and the Z. They are not entirely full reboots. They are at best a form of 'hibernate' found on laptops and PCs. A full reboot still takes as much time as a bootup of other androids.

Though it's undeniable that this 'hibernate' function comes in handy when the circumstances call for it.

full reboot is performed by taking out the battery me thinks

A full reboot usually takes up at least 10-20sec or even more i'd say. Had a DZ and found that hinge is still loose, but it wasnt a problem for me as i usually hold the phone entirely.

ya when u turn off the deice, its actually only in hibernate stage. still consuming little amount of battery. for normal boot, i think we can un-tick the fastboot option in the setting, or by taking out battery.

review will be out next monday..just dun hv time to observe and write yet..hehe..and also im using DHD now, just to get the feel.

Well to tell you the truth, both phones are almost similar, htc sense and whatnot, I believe the dealbreaker would be either a bigger screen or a physical keyboard. Others are too minimal I would think.

bro, I would like to know how is the battery life of both phones..

yeah..i dun hv to tell me the truth, coz i got the truths in hands now..hehehe..ya, u might be right. so which one u prefer, bigger screen (more expensive) or physical keyboard (cheaper)?

alright..will try to compare.

i believe desire z last longer than hd
z=1300 mAh
hd= 1230 mAh

maybe.. but stated in the phone specs :

DZ: Stand-by Up to 430 h (2G) / Up to 430 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 9 h 50 min (2G) / Up to 6 h 40 min (3G)

DHD: Stand-by Up to 490 h (2G) / Up to 420 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 9 h 15 min (2G) / Up to 5 h 30 min (3G)

Nice writeup there!

Can have a separate section catering to power users, i.e those who make an effort to tinker with the phone at the root level? Like maybe ROM selection, ROM quality and stuff.

A bugs section?

lol just giving you more work to do.

a very thorough review, but TS, you're a lil bit off to DZ yah?

anyway, like you said, the major dealbreaker is the Bigger screen and physical keyboard only. that's it. so guys, just choose it according to your likes and lastly, ROOT your ANDROID to unleash the hidden power of either devices!

This post has been edited by billy_overheat: Jan 31 2011, 11:54 AM

^lol ppl should not think that rooting is the 'proper' way to use an android. It's actually very unnecessary if you do not know what you trying to achieve exactly.

Other than radical root-level (ie heavy and intense) cosmetic customization, CPU tuning, added physical feature (eg enabling trackpad wake on DZ), flashing updated radio, everything else runs pretty much the same.

lo.. yeah, a bunch more to write.

yeah, maybe i likeDZ, and i kinda think y it got less attention inspite of its true capabilities which is comparable to DHD. but im not saying DZ is better than DHD. at some extend, DHD might be better than DZ, but is it worth the higher price? and, is it worth DZ lives under the shadow of DHD?

agree.. tweaks to meet yr personal needs.

Good review bro!

This post has been edited by deslim: Jan 31 2011, 12:23 PM

thanks mate..hope it can help u to grab yr desire.

i somewhat feel that DZ is 2 big... :/

^LOLLLLL the DHD must look gigantic to you.

i can't really sit if i put it in my pocket...

Rooting is only for those who want to have fun and excitement. Although it's not really necessary like what someone said, yet like I said, I bet those who buy such expensive device will do research and they will know the reasons why many people do heavy customization on their devices.

really? u must hv wear tight pants. for me its not "too" big, but it is averagely unusual big (for a phone)

yes..and sometime rooting is necessary for u to gain access to some useful apps. but again, such apps might not be useful to other ppl.

once i also was comparing these 2 phones and it's a big headache to decide which one to buy (i'm sure a lot of ppl have similar problems). but after comparing both on my own hands, i've decided to go for DHD because i simply like the HUGE screen, 3.7 inch on the DZ is simply TOO SMALL. plus the DZ is SO heavy and bulky. I'm not saying the DZ is not good, i loved it, but there are cons that outweighs the pros.

i like the physical keyboard very much, but the problem with a physical keyboard on a phone is, u really can't use your professional typing skills, i can type SUPER fast on a normal PC keyboard (i'm a pro), but the design and size for a phone's keyboard isn't designed for professional typing, so it's no use to me. plus it makes the phone bulky and it even sticks out of my baggy trousers (like i'm having a boner everywhere i go)

and i like it's overclock capabilities (1.9ghz anyone?) but the point is, i wouldn't be using this much clock speed every time. 1.5ghz on the DHD is just fine by me.

the screen color and sharpness on both are almost the same, but the 4.3 inch on the DHD just slaughters the DZ in every single way. u'll be complaining how tiny the DZ's screen is every time u see it. and the DHD isn't as heavy and bulky as everyone seems to think. it's slim and is a perfect fit for my pockets (because I hate jeans). and it won't scare away girls thinking that i'm a pervert every time i approach them because i'm not having a boner (DZ) on me.

well reviewed there mate..i like the boner thing.. lol

but, i cant see how 16gram (180-164) gram brings much difference to u.. DHD also looks like a boner, but a rather slate and broad boner.

yes, nobody can type so fast like using the normal PC keyboard. but using the physical keyboard, no doubt its faster than virtual keyboard, and less typing error.

about the display size, 4.3" vs. 3.7" = 0.6" diff. yeah, i agree, big display pleases most ppl. but what i pointed out was, the bigger display space was not totally utilized. using same Froyo 2.2, so same UI, what we get is just a bigger buttons and larger fonts. 3.7" is not tiny, i know many ppl will agree. Coz i dun hear ppl having iphone 4 complaining, at least. ^^

overclock is not necessary to me, coz it will drains battery.

well, DHD i really a good phone, but so does DZ.

quite detailed review.

I am upgraded from a Treo 680 with physical keyboard and I was a bit worry the absence of physical keyboard when I planned to updated to Desire (not HD) but the learning curve is painless but the smaller keypad on the screen of Desire does make typing more prone to errors. But after I upgrade to Desire HD, the typing errors is mitigated by the larger key on the larger screen of Desire HD. Although from paper, it may not be much difference upgrading from 3.7" to 4.3" but in actual use, it makes a lot of difference. At first i find the DHD's screen a bit too big but after getting used to it after using it for few days, I find the Desire's 3.7" too small to be used "comfortably" - my eyes have been spoilt by the larger DHD screen.

The bigger screen does fully utilised by games and especially videos. Watching video on Desire 3.7" screen need to strain my eyes but not DHD's 4.3" screen.

Trust me, 3.7" screen is "tiny", IF you have used a 4.3" for some time. Ppl dun complain about 3.7" becoz they have never used a 4.3" device for a longer time. Just like our computer monitor - when the 19" LCD is out, no one will complain about it but now you can see 24" widescreen everywhere, surely ppl will complain about a 19" LCD now if they have used to a 24" widescreen.

This post has been edited by Cynox: Jan 31 2011, 04:43 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, girls LOVE boners.

agree with some of your points.

but im using DHD now, while my DZ still with me..still i dun think the 4.3" screen brings much too me. sometime when i glance back to my DZ, and i turn it on, its really not bad in term of display. and sometime, i feels it looks "sexier" with the slimmer appearance, compared to the broad DHD.

but ya, no doubt, if money is not the constrain, so why not spend more to get a DHD. but for some ppl with budget constrains, dun push too much to get a DHD, while DZ is comparable enough to satisfy yr needs.

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Added on January 31, 2011, 5:09 pm so u should get a DZ mate

This post has been edited by un_id: Jan 31 2011, 05:09 PM

Nice review there...
I'm kinda agree what you said... for A & B selection... game wise DHD, daily usage DZ... no doubts...
4.3 vs 3.7 did make different...but!!! IMO still an acceptable different... kinda disagree wat Cynox said ( no offense ) cant compare 19 inch n 24 inch la...bro... 5 inch different man~
same time 3.7 DZ cant compare with 3.7 desire as well... caz DZ gt its own physical keyboard...
p/s: TS u had actually comparing two different phone >.< physical keyboard with full touch screen...but somehow I did salute for ur effort on both phones...

lol.. i did this just to assist other ppl who are in confusion either to get a DHD or DZ. i experienced it, i bought a DZ back in Nov2010, but then, i keep on following updates in android world, it seems that DHD is more exciting, so i was kinda regret my choice, until i cant resist my desire then i bought a DHD tho my DZ is still in hands. but after having it, the DHD is not too impressive as it should be. so my objective is just to point out some of my personal review, to assist other. but no offense to both DHD and DZ yah.

This post has been edited by un_id: Jan 31 2011, 05:36 PM

haha.. no offence taken. I am just making a analogy. i also do agree on hard to compare this 2 quite distinctive phones - one win with big screen while another win with physical keyboard. But for sure both devices are kick-ass.

Personally I have not touch a Desire Z before so my comment might be biased towards DHD. So read it with a pinch of salt.

lol.. thanks for a feedback anyway.. comments are very welcomed, coz who kws i wrote driven with my frustration of having a "not-so-impressive" DHD, so might be a bit bias too.

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Added on January 31, 2011, 5:42 pmand bro cynox, now i'm up and ready to get my hands dirty with my DHD..i mean rooting..hehe.. i landed in yr DHD thread too..i just got another device to explore.. hehe

This post has been edited by un_id: Jan 31 2011, 05:42 PM

Wadefak YOU read my Thoughts!


I've been saying this to my friends that DZ is considerably slim for a phone with a QWERTY. Yes and it's SEXY.

TBH, I'm never a fan of the looks of N1,Desire, and DHD due to it's 'brown' thang, Nexus S is kewl except for it's cheap plastic looking.

This post has been edited by deslim: Jan 31 2011, 06:10 PM

Nice review bro good comparison IMO.

Wanted to see this kind of head to head review when i considered the DZ/ G2

But, i went and picked up a Captivate instead.
teh SuperAMOLED iz irresistible

honestly take the bigger screen as once ur use to the touch key it would be better. imagive watching youtube on that and taking pictures. i myself cant get enough with my 4" and planning to take dell streak.

Super amoled is nice huh.

I use to hv a galaxy tab.. but sold.. coz its really odd when hp too big..in my opnion, when u really need an entertainment, u owez go back to yr laptop, when u want to take pics, u may want a good quality one, so nothing can replace a physical " bulky" camera.

Quite, factory rom sucks big time though. Too much crapware and it's still on 2.1.

Custom roms will fix that.

Hehe..thats y ppl cant avoid flashing custom rom

hey hey i just got a DZ and im so glad i choose this over the nexus s or DHD.

hi! so u got yrs ori SIS DZ?
well, i'm not saying DZ is better than nexus s and DHD, but it worth the price.
any inquiry pls dun hesitate to ask, i dun mind to share.

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Added on February 2, 2011, 2:39 pmun-rooting my DZ....whoohhtt..

This post has been edited by un_id: Feb 2 2011, 02:39 PM

i too..waiting when comparing these 2 devices;

but at last...i went for the "best" in the market DHD

true....
i was on 17" for quite a long time....last week i bought a wide 22"......imagine what i have missed out.
working on it is so much easier

oh ya..cynox

pls put me up the DHD list , got it from senQ, thanks

even 4.3" cant satisfy my viewing need. thus i owez grab my laptop for better browsing experience. so u agreed, watching youtube thru laptop is more convenience than the 4.3" screen? so, do u really need the 4.3" screen? ultimately u need a cell phone, right. but this doesnt apply if u hv no budget constraint. no wrong of wasting a few hundreds more for a bigger screen. but for those with tight budget, dun squeeze yr every penny. lol

yeah i agree , ultimately for orgasmic surfing pleasure its on a 13 in
" above LED monitor screen

Larger screen needs larger battery capacity support, will normally lead to heavier/bulkier device. U decide, for me I think 3.5 to 3.7 inch is the ideal size. I suggest better screen resolution such as 720p for 3.7 inch.

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