❤ LYN Proton INSPIRA: Owners/Fan Thread V4 ❤, SMART GUYS GET IT! | Got yours yet?
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 Feb 19 2011, 01:34 PM
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So applying SG still need to wipe it often..... This is more like wax yourself and taking good care of it. But with SG, you need to waste rm700 first....
Now I know why my uncle's Harrier never send to SG and still look new even after 7 years..... |
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Feb 19 2011, 02:03 PM
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Wow, 1 hour rm100....
Well, waste is best suit on this, since it only have the same effect like wax, or rather it is more sensitive than wax on taking care of it.... Because for me, I have to waste time, money for toll and petrol to travel down just to do this job. 6 hours I can make rm3k already in stock market... That's why my uncle laugh at me when I ask opinion from him on this.... And such statement come out from a man with his hourly rate of rm500 which is 5 times more than you..... Peace...... |
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Feb 19 2011, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(kapultek @ Feb 19 2011, 02:45 PM) how much is the price for sg now rm680 initial and suddenly went up to rm780.... Added on February 19, 2011, 3:22 pm QUOTE(Poadster @ Feb 19 2011, 02:30 PM) Dude... again you use the words WASTE.... how thick can you be when you are talking about other ppls's money?? If the "product" you buy is worth to you, its not waste... Well, for you is not wast but for me yes it is waste. You voice yours and I voice mine. 6hours only make Rm3000?? what a waste of time.... for me.... and what does yr uncle making 5 times more than me have to do with me USING MY MONEY?? I was refering to my time my money... Forget it... u spoke yr mind... as i with mind... lets move on... Is you who started to boast around with income, not me..... This post has been edited by kyheng: Feb 19 2011, 03:22 PM |
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Feb 19 2011, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE(saladin7 @ Feb 19 2011, 07:46 PM) Actually how much is the cost to repaint the whole car? Good quality wax only cost about rm50-100 depending to the volume and brand. And it can last you for about few months(may last longer if well taken care). But it require some skill to have a good coat on wax. I'm thinking we r doing wax there, sealant here, sg there, buy expensive product... maybe just do regular wash and after 4-5 years repaint the car? Spraying back the car are not that cheap, can cost about rm1500-3000, depending on your location(don't expect city's price will be same as kampung's price) and color. Some Proton/EON SC do offer this, but it will be ~rm500-1000 more expensive than outside. But the color will be same as new car. Respray are good, to prevent rust. If you follow the thread, some of the members do have paint chip off. If the layer of paint used were enough, it won't chip off so easy.. |
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Feb 19 2011, 09:25 PM
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That's fast for a new car..... Usually should be 30kkm or depending to your driving habits.... May need to do it earlier than 30kkm.... But Mitsubishi's CVT is 40kkm if not mistaken.....
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Feb 19 2011, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Feb 19 2011, 09:32 PM) according to manual...80k km...i'll change mine every 20k or 30k 80kkm? That's long..... Are Mitsubishi really confident on their stuffs or they want to do more business? And this gearbox can cost rm30000 easily.... I think the begining few years, changing it around 30kkm will be better.... If the cost of changing the gear oil is rm300, you drive it for 10 years and every year change once, it is only rm3000. If change regularly can prevent gearbox failure, I will do this.... Spending rm3000 to protect the gearbox will be worth.... |
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Feb 19 2011, 10:03 PM
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You can always start a group buy for this. Buying in cartoon will be cheaper.
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Feb 19 2011, 10:57 PM
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Can always go to Proton/EON authorized spare parts shop to buy it.
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Feb 21 2011, 07:26 AM
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QUOTE(Neoz @ Feb 21 2011, 12:17 AM) the 'kluk' or 'nyek' sounds come from the absorber. The improvement part not yet ready, once ready they will install it when we visit the SC for servicing. Actually Proton still looking for the cheapest but won't give you noise suspension system.... They may already have the "improvement parts', but does not fit their goal of getting margin of 1000-3000% margin. That's the reason why Proton die die want to use their "suspension system" that so-called better for comfort. |
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Feb 21 2011, 10:04 AM
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No source on this, based on Proton's way of doing business.
Like Waja got 2 version of power window gear, 1 plastic(cheaper obviously) and metal gear. The version with plastic gear always fail. Like my 2003 Wira, always have TB blocked and fuel filter got carbon... While 2001 Wira don't have such problems.... Have to know that, the suspension system only changed in terms of parts being used. And this is the part that having the most complaints. We have 1.8 Lancer in Taiwan, but do they have complaint on this? |
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Feb 21 2011, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(RahXeph0n @ Feb 21 2011, 11:27 AM) I hope you're being sarcastic hahaha. The engines are still from the same GEMA build (in case you didn't know, both forte 2.0 and inspira 2.0 use the same engine basically), the new 6 speed gear ratios is probably like other auto transmissions that are more than 4 speed = the extra gears only affect highway driving for increased fuel efficiency, the first 4 are hardly changed (although I'm sure they are changed slightly). Overall, the difference will be minimal if any. Ok.... So, you want facts :It would help to say it's "my opinion" or "I think" or "from my observation" or "what I feel". Currently you're talking like it's a fact, which can confuse people, hence the asking for source. Your comparison of cars based on your experience are of older cars. Proton is under a new management now. Things MAY be different, and I say MAY. I don't know for sure, but neither do you right? Heck, Proton ICare even started calling up inspira oners personally to check on their cars... Isn't that telling you something? There's a difference between being analytic, critical, pessimistic and cynical. I don't suggest that everyone heap praise on the Inspira, but it's painfully obvious which category you fall into. 1. why would Proton have to test out so many suspension systems in the first place? 2. why there's >20 companies supplying parts to Proton? And the quality of the parts varies? 3. why other car makers are making profit last year but not Proton? 4. ICare called to ask is there any problem. But then when there's problem, can they solve it? The only answer is "sir, you have to wait, wait and wait.". This is telling me that, they are testing my blood pressure. 5. The fact of Inspira has the PDI and it stated PDI OK. But again, there's still problems here and there. 6. Indeed new management want to make some changes, but then did the front liners changed? Did the attitude changed? |
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Feb 21 2011, 02:06 PM
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Test drive were ok, because it is short distance.... But then when people start complaining about the suspension, initial it may be rumours... But as soon as you can get >50% of owners having this problem, it won't be rumours anymore.
Even my friend that driving a Kelisa said, why not Proton just revert back to the original Mitsubishi suspension system and settle the issue first? Which I found this is the fastest way to close this QC gap. But then knowing that it is Proton, he say, "well, you have to wait until people really boycott Proton again like last time"..... Obviously, Proton are using sub standard parts on this, hoping that no owners will complaint. |
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Feb 21 2011, 02:13 PM
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What I hate is the way they deal with problems, other than that, Proton will be still stand first in my next car list.
Surprising that, only Malaysia got this problem but other countries have no such problem... Even if have, it is <10%.... So, you smell fish on this? |
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Feb 21 2011, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(DM3 @ Feb 21 2011, 02:20 PM) like many other car makes also has their own problems and yes prton has more problems but to most bashers when heard of 1 serious case of problem will so call represent the whole model(i.e inspira) . Atleast those companies willing to do recall.... No car is perfect, this is a fact. But something that they can do is really listen and solve the problem.... That's why many many years ago T and H's target market is the world while Proton target Malaysia only. Now Korean brand also slowly have a share in this cake(wolrd market) and Proton still target Malaysia only... |
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Feb 21 2011, 02:35 PM
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Well, if the penetration rate are <10%, what for? At the end, is people's money to support them....
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Feb 21 2011, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(Neoz @ Feb 21 2011, 02:43 PM) Bro, Yup, you are right on this... 3 months are not long.....The absorber sound comes from the bump stopper, which is a localized product but using the japan design. Im not sure about whats being experience by current lancer (even i heard stories but i would prefer to reserve any comment because i prefer a first hand info). The improvement part currently still in progress, which proton intended to change the size and soften the material. Proton didn't do a recall because the sound is not causing a total failure or in any way jeopardizing peoples life. With the free service currently offered to all inspira, once the part ready they will change it during the normal service (or maybe when people visit the SC to complain). Its a known problem and action currently being taken by Proton. Maybe u have left proton SC quite sumtime already bro  Its not perfect but its worth the price (for us)  |
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Feb 21 2011, 08:00 PM
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The cost? Installing after market stuff to solve issues are a way, but not the best....
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Feb 21 2011, 09:52 PM
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1. corruption take place
2. corruption take place 3. mis-management 4. never give a solid timeline = they can't find solution. And if a car manufacturer's goal are giving users a quality car, every parts will be tested for longer period of time. That's why Proton still the same, never change even after 25 years. And hoping some butthurt fanboys to support them only. 5. Keep on testing new and old but yet every models still have problems here and there, proactive on what? I don't know. |
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Feb 21 2011, 10:27 PM
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BTW, found this in the web... So, which part is giving problem?
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Feb 22 2011, 09:29 AM
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When Proton can't lay their hands on the engine, I doubt there's any higher spec version....
Higher specs in accessories like leather seats(don't expect it to be Nappa), better HU like Kenwood Navi unit(again, in your dream) which you can buy them outside.... Changing the exterior looks will be more likely.... If can, just wait for few years more and see how it goes... At least by that time, they will have more matured in terms of skills and undergo a mass boycott by Malaysians(Proton way of improving quality is like this, you make noise they won't bother much. But once people boycott them, then only they will improve). Even the old PDT 2000 won't be able used to dignose what problem happen in Inspira. Older models air cond problem is troubleshoot using the old way, but Inspira can use the machine to detect problems. |
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