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The Sony Alpha Thread V50!, The Orange Legion
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TSalbnok
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Feb 23 2011, 06:01 PM
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Alpha Male
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azamunekurone: Wah, first time hearing about the 16-105mm getting gear stripping! So we will be cursed with a SAM in the next iteration.
Newbieeeeee: With all due respect to goldfries - while he is experienced, he is not up to speed and aware of certain details of the Sony Alpha system and I have on occasion spotted inaccuracies.
Anyway, the A33 and A55 have a stabilized viewfinder, which is apparent when recording video. Can't remember if it activates when the shutter is half-pressed, though.
In-lens stabilization has its optical drawbacks as well. All the light needs to pass through a smaller IS lens group. Without IS, the optical design avoids narrowing the light path. You can find people saying the non-IS 70-200mm F2.8 L is sharper than the L IS (but I don't know how the new L IS II compares to the non-IS.) You can also find people saying that the IS does things to your bokeh.
You won't see in-lens stabilization in certain lens designs e.g. the 50mm F1.4 because the lens is just filled up with glass.
lwliam: The "in-lens is tuned to lens" argument is usually stated without knowing that in-body stabilization does take into account the focal length. The longer the focal length, the more the sensor moves.
So, in-body stabilization is also tuned to the lens used.
This post has been edited by albnok: Feb 23 2011, 06:12 PM
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lwliam
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Feb 23 2011, 06:01 PM
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Your friendly neighborhood photographer
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check what is the price for Sigma 85mm f/1.4 plz  Added on February 23, 2011, 6:05 pmQUOTE(albnok @ Feb 23 2011, 06:01 PM) lwliam: The "in-lens is tuned to lens" argument is usually stated without knowing that in-body stabilization does take into account the focal length. The longer the focal length, the more the sensor moves. So, in-body stabilization is also tuned to the lens used. agree with you on that.. thats where the bar on the bottom left comes into play... lenses without chips though, i think is the loophole This post has been edited by lwliam: Feb 23 2011, 06:05 PM
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shootkk
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Feb 23 2011, 06:15 PM
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Loyal Sony A100 User
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Feb 23 2011, 06:01 PM) check what is the price for Sigma 85mm f/1.4 plz  Expect to pay at least RM 4k for that lens. It's not cheap! Saw the RRP on Sigma's website and it's listed at USD 1,400
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chiahau
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Feb 23 2011, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Feb 23 2011, 06:15 PM) Expect to pay at least RM 4k for that lens. It's not cheap! Saw the RRP on Sigma's website and it's listed at USD 1,400  You can easily afford it bro
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TSalbnok
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Feb 23 2011, 06:23 PM
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Alpha Male
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lwliam: Indeed - Olympus and Pentax do a more empowering job. They let you enter the focal length (on certain bodies) so the in-body stabilization will work on unchipped lenses as well.
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8tvt
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Feb 23 2011, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 23 2011, 06:23 PM) lwliam: Indeed - Olympus and Pentax do a more empowering job. They let you enter the focal length (on certain bodies) so the in-body stabilization will work on unchipped lenses as well. the focal length in range or fixed? or isit enter the max?
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lwliam
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Feb 23 2011, 06:32 PM
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Your friendly neighborhood photographer
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do we have unchipped zoom lenses?
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TSalbnok
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Feb 23 2011, 06:56 PM
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Alpha Male
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8tvt: The focal length you enter is only one value. Since the lens is unchipped anyway, it has no way to tell the Olympus or Pentax what the focal length is LOL. So what people do is they pick the most commonly used focal length of an unchipped zoom lens, or the halfway point, e.g. 140mm for a 70-210mm F4.5-5.6. This is because Olympus and Pentax support their manual-focus lenses - Olympus sells an adapter for OM Zuiko to Four-Thirds mount. Pentax K-mount lenses can be manual focus also because they did not change the mount when going from MF to AF (like the Nikon F mount.) Pentax also sells an M42 to K-mount adapter, as M42 is often called the "Pentax M42 screw mount". lwliam: Yes there are unchipped manual focus zoom lenses.
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Newbieeeeee
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Feb 23 2011, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(shootkk @ Feb 23 2011, 06:15 PM) Expect to pay at least RM 4k for that lens. It's not cheap! Saw the RRP on Sigma's website and it's listed at USD 1,400  Whats the problem if he can afford the cz2470
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lwliam
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Feb 23 2011, 08:18 PM
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Your friendly neighborhood photographer
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yea la, whats the problem right. Its not like money doesnt grow on trees
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empty-ball
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Feb 23 2011, 08:22 PM
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Getting Started

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Hi, pro here, I am planning to buy a A33, can i have any opinion and advice from you all ? like maintenance, shutter count or battery life... thx a lot in advance
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8tvt
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Feb 23 2011, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(empty-ball @ Feb 23 2011, 08:22 PM) Hi, pro here, I am planning to buy a A33, can i have any opinion and advice from you all ? like maintenance, shutter count or battery life... thx a lot in advance u can get those on the review.. try it at shop for example.. and think which suit ur needs..
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Newbieeeeee
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Feb 23 2011, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(empty-ball @ Feb 23 2011, 08:22 PM) Hi, pro here, I am planning to buy a A33, can i have any opinion and advice from you all ? like maintenance, shutter count or battery life... thx a lot in advance a33 is a good camera, but for me, i'll rather like the a55 over the a33. why? -it has the new sensor -10fps vs 7fps -gps tagging (useless for me) but the a55 is out of stock for the time being. anyways, the a33 is good. yeah.
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chiahau
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Feb 23 2011, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(empty-ball @ Feb 23 2011, 08:22 PM) Hi, pro here, I am planning to buy a A33, can i have any opinion and advice from you all ? like maintenance, shutter count or battery life... thx a lot in advance Shop at malacca offer 1.9k stg btw lol. Nothing to maintain. Until there is problem at least lol. Shutter count? No need worry bout it. Battery life is good enough for 1 day, if not, get a spare batt la.
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empty-ball
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Feb 23 2011, 09:19 PM
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Getting Started

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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Feb 23 2011, 08:41 PM) a33 is a good camera, but for me, i'll rather like the a55 over the a33. why? -it has the new sensor -10fps vs 7fps -gps tagging (useless for me) but the a55 is out of stock for the time being. anyways, the a33 is good. yeah. ok, thx for the adivce, can i know wat is the basic maintenance tools need to buy ? Added on February 23, 2011, 9:20 pmQUOTE(chiahau @ Feb 23 2011, 09:13 PM) Shop at malacca offer 1.9k stg btw lol. Nothing to maintain. Until there is problem at least lol. Shutter count? No need worry bout it. Battery life is good enough for 1 day, if not, get a spare batt la. anything i need to pay attention while buying the cam ?? This post has been edited by empty-ball: Feb 23 2011, 09:20 PM
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cassplayer
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Feb 23 2011, 10:12 PM
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Pic spam   Uptown has the cheapest F58 right? From mitmivec?
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chiahau
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Feb 23 2011, 10:20 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(cassplayer @ Feb 23 2011, 10:12 PM) Pic spam   Uptown has the cheapest F58 right? From mitmivec? Sadly no. Pro Images has the cheapest one so far. Around 1k, if you nego kaw kaw with him. So far, he's nice enough with me XP This post has been edited by chiahau: Feb 23 2011, 10:21 PM
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iamKiet
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Feb 23 2011, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(chiahau @ Feb 23 2011, 10:20 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
Sadly no. Pro Images has the cheapest one so far. Around 1k, if you nego kaw kaw with him. So far, he's nice enough with me XP i thought someone said mitmivec could offer around 1k also?
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chiahau
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Feb 23 2011, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(iamKiet @ Feb 23 2011, 10:34 PM) i thought someone said mitmivec could offer around 1k also? Porkchop said so. But depends on him lo.. I getting either this wednesday from him or i go Mr.Heng. Btw, youe eneloop still with me bro~~"
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fansoption
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Feb 24 2011, 12:01 AM
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Sushi
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