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pengejar
post Sep 5 2011, 09:05 PM

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Bro what you copy paste don't help me since if I google I straight away will get it, I read that thing more than 100times(seriously) but still pening about latihan tempatan. One part they put latihan tempatan in same sentence with recruit, one part its own description, plus I want to know after become prebet only need to go for lanjutan and tahunan only or still need to settle latihan tempatan. But thanks anyway for fast reply.
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like i type, maybe Guan or Kuan can help you more,

but for faster reply why don't you paste at mymil via the given link!
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I smell kissing up!

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thanks kurien!
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post Sep 6 2011, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(pengejar @ Sep 5 2011, 09:05 PM)
Bro what you copy paste don't help me since if I google I straight away will get it, I read that thing more than 100times(seriously) but still pening about latihan tempatan. One part they put latihan tempatan in same sentence with recruit, one part its own description, plus I want to know after become prebet only need to go for lanjutan and tahunan only or still need to settle latihan tempatan. But thanks anyway for fast reply.
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After u sign up to askar wataniah:

got 2 package for you,

NORMAL PACKAGE
GO Recruit training, for 1 month....(hell training..u sure like it.. lol), and then after recruit...yeah...u become private or prebet in BM, and then after that, go latihan tempatan 1 year above 60 hours (u go latihan tempatan 6 days then ok already), and u consider active loh

OR

'PROMOTION' PACKAGE tongue.gif

u can do the relax package..that is go training on saturday or sunday, until u reach 240 hours in 1 year ( can carry forward to next year), and then automatically become prebet...

how's that? haha


*p/s, u just need to go 1 time recruitment ( do u really always want to go recruitment every year ke? omg), then that's it, no more hell training. And one more thing, just everytime got training , u go participate, then already can up level fast, you can also take latihan berterusan and tahunan for even more hours to get bounty bonus, RM 500++ if u go more than 360 hours!


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post Sep 6 2011, 06:26 PM

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oh ya..... there is no compulsory in askar wataniah, is volunteer....
so...actually u can come and don't come

but... if like that, u no need become askar loh, since askar must have discipline yeah....
if like that habis loh tentera malaysia, hehe
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post Sep 6 2011, 11:36 PM

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So if i go weekend 240hours in one year, be a prebet. The yearly only need to settle latihan tempatan for atleast 60hours a year to be active? While latihan tahunan and berterusan not compulsory to make me active? Just go latihan tahunan and berterusan if i got free time during that year, if not no need to got? That's pretty easy, I thought Tempatan+Berterusan+Tahunan is compulsory yearly to make me active. Huhu thanks a lot.
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post Sep 7 2011, 12:26 AM

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post Sep 7 2011, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(pengejar @ Sep 6 2011, 11:36 PM)
So if i go weekend 240hours in one year, be a prebet. The yearly only need to settle latihan tempatan for atleast 60hours a year to be active? While latihan tahunan and berterusan not compulsory to make me active? Just go latihan tahunan and berterusan if i got free time during that year, if not no need to got? That's pretty easy, I thought Tempatan+Berterusan+Tahunan is compulsory yearly to make me active. Huhu thanks a lot.
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ya. something like that...
i think now need a lot of askar wataniah, so... they start to lower the requirement
i think they making "promotion" lol
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post Sep 7 2011, 05:23 PM

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What specialization if any is available in Wataniah?

Will you be able to become a specialist like a sniper or EOD in this regiment?
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post Sep 8 2011, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(DeFaeco @ Sep 7 2011, 05:23 PM)
What specialization if any is available in Wataniah?

Will you be able to become a specialist like a sniper or EOD in this regiment?
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no lah...u cannot become sniper if u take wataniah
if u want to become sniper, just transfer to askar tetap oh

but you can become paratrooper if u join wataniah, this one for sure
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Forming JSDF Marines

It’s really happening: Japan is getting Marines. Corey Wallace at Sigma1 summarizes from a Asahi article that hasn’t made it into English yet.

According to an Asahi Shimbun article here (jp), the MoD plan to convert a GSDF infantry regiment into a US-style amphibious unit is proceeding. Given the rapid modernization of Chinese defense forces, the plan will become an important part of the new and revised defense guidelines to be released at the end of the year. The new unit’s prime responsibility will be filling the perceived Nansei Island security vacuum between Tsushima and Yonaguni islands, which is 1200 kilometres North-South and 900 kilometres East-West. With an estimated 2500 islands, the only permanent forces responsible for the islands’ protection are the Okinawan 15th Brigade and a garrison on Tsushima (JGSDF Tsushima Area Security Force), with the rest being covered by the GSDF Western Army Infantry Regiment(Light) (WAiR) stationed in Nagasaki prefecture. WAiR’s ability to cover the region in case of an armed landing is, and has been in doubt for some time.

The thinking here is that either the JGSDF 8th Division (in Kumamoto) or an infantry regiment from the 15th Brigade be converted to not only provide relief in the case of disaster and other emergencies but also be equipped to recover islands taken by hostile forces. The model will be the US Marine Corps concept, and since 2006 WAiR and the 8th Division have already been training with the US Marines in California in activities related to recovering lost islands.


Japan is smart in creating a unit to retake islands, instead of concentrating on garrisoning them with troops. Trying to defend all 2,500 islands would be a fool’s errand. Once an island is isolated by air and naval power the success of any reasonably well executed amphibious invasion is guaranteed. But once landed, the tables are turned and the invasion force can then become equally isolated and then defeated. Japan should make an effort to garrison the larger populated islands, but the GSDF can’t be everywhere.

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post Sep 9 2011, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(kuan1234 @ Sep 8 2011, 12:39 PM)
no lah...u cannot become sniper if u take wataniah
if u want to become sniper, just transfer to askar tetap oh

but you can become paratrooper if u join wataniah, this one for sure
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k-tard not suitable to be paratrooper, fap 24/7 later if join paratrooper after parachute landing kepala lutut patah. kan best if malaysia like swiss, reserve can bring their rifle home. everyday can usap-usap cuci-cuci.
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QUOTE(pengejar @ Sep 9 2011, 12:22 AM)
k-tard not suitable to be paratrooper, fap 24/7 later if join paratrooper after parachute landing kepala lutut patah. kan best if malaysia like swiss, reserve can bring their rifle home. everyday can usap-usap cuci-cuci.
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k-tards pn majoriti usap2 cuci jugak hape!
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post Sep 9 2011, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(kuan1234 @ Sep 8 2011, 12:39 PM)
no lah...u cannot become sniper if u take wataniah
if u want to become sniper, just transfer to askar tetap oh

but you can become paratrooper if u join wataniah, this one for sure
hehe biggrin.gif
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So there are no specialization at all within the regiment?

You're either a soldier or a paratrooper? No medics or radioman or recon elements, etc?
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ASTROS 2020: Brazil Moves to Revive Avibras
Sep 05, 2011 20:03 EDT

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At the end of August 2011, Brazil’s Ministerio da Defesa announced the beginning of a BRL 1.09 billion (about $685 million) project to update Avibras’ ASTROS (Artillery SaTuration ROcket System) multiple rocket launcher system to ASTROS 2020 configuration. It will also develop an AV-TM missile option, giving the new system a 300 km strike range that’s similar to the USA’s MLRS/ATACMS combination.

The initial BRL 45 million (about $28 million) in funding belies the importance of this contract, on 2 levels. One is industrial. The other is the future spread of advanced precision strike technologies…

On the technology front, ASTROS 2020 is a step forward for a globally competitive platform. In contrast to the 227mm American MLRS/HIMARS system, ASTROS has always allowed a range of rocket calibers. Customers could load ASTROS with a pod carrying up to 32 of the 127mm SS-300s, 16 of the 180mm SS-40s, or 4 300mm SS-60/80s with 90km range, depending on how they wanted to balance range and barrage capacity at any given time.

Recent advances in competitive systems like MLRS have changed the landscape, by adding GPS guidance to create the “GMLRS” precision attack rocket. At the same time, the option to swap 6 MLRS rockets for a 300 km, GPS-guided M-140 ATACMS ballistic missile has vastly extended those systems’ threat reach. Lockheed also continues to improve their 227mm rockets, and recently completed a 120km firing of their new GMLRS+ offering.

ASTROS rockets remain unguided so far, but the AV-TM would add a long-range, precision strike option that has been missing. Photos from Avibras appear to confirm the MdD’s description of AV-TM as a “missil de cruzeiro”, rather than a ballistic missile like the M-140. The tactical consequence is that strikes will take much longer to arrive. On the other hand, successful development is likely to be easier. With long range precision strike added, existing ASTROS customers might be more inclined to keep their existing systems, even as Brazil looks for new markets abroad.

On the industrial front, the government is trying to revive Avibras, whose ASTROS system remains one of Brazil’s most successful weapon export programs ever. During the Cold War, Brazil worked to develop a significant military-industrial complex of its own, and developed a variety of ground vehicles including tanks and APCs. Exports were very difficult in an environment dominated by the Cold War superpowers and their clients, but Avibras’ ASTROS was one of the few exceptions. It sold extremely well in the Middle East, with clients that included Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, and the gulf states of Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar.

Recent decades have been even less kind to Brazil’s military industrial base, beyond the considerable civil success of Embraer. Military ground vehicle industrial capacity must be completely rebuilt, in the wake of Engesa SA’s 1993 bankruptcy. Even Avibras applied for bankruptcy protection in July 2008. A financial restructuring took place, with help from Brazil’s Federal Government, but the ASTROS 2020 project is Avibras’ first big step back toward future viability.

It also continues a wider push to restore Brazil’s defense-industrial base, often in cooperation with foreign partners. From Cougar medium helicopters (Eurocopter) to new VBTP wheeled APCs (Iveco), to aerial missiles like A-Darter (Denel), to its own KC-390 aerial transport design, Brazil is pushing ahead on a number of fronts.

As it pushes ahead, the international landscape for defense buys changes. The sale of Mectron’s MAR-1 radar-killer missiles to Pakistan caused a bit of a kerfuffle, even as it may open new markets for Brazilian exports. Avibras’ ASTROS 2020 MLRS would add a new entrant of its own to the global market, alongside the American M270 MLRS/ M142 HIMARS family, and Russia’s popular Grad (122mm), Urugan (220mm) and SMERCH-M (300mm) systems. ASTROS 2020 Buyers would acquire a long-range, precision attack system, and as the number of available sellers for such systems expands in the global marketplace, it becomes more difficult to block disfavored countries from acquiring them. The future points to such systems as an expected presence in military planning.

The 1 billion Real question is whether even a successful ASTROS 2020 development project will enable Avibras to field a renewed export success, and capture an appreciable slice of that market.

Contracts & Key Events
Aug 26/11: Brazil’s Ministerio do Defesa announces the launch of the ASTROS 2020 project, which could rise to BRL 1.09 billion, but is beginning with a BRL 45 million (about $28 million) contract.

Brazil intends to buy 3 ASTROS 2020 batteries: a total of 18 launch vehicles, 18 ammunition resupply vehicles, 3 fire control units, 3 weather stations, 3 recovery vehicles and 3 armored command and control vehicles. The 49th vehicle will handle integrated command and control. Brazil’s MdD [in Portuguese]

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/ASTROS...-Avibras-07069/
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I dun think theres many Astros users. So why we didnt JV with them to revive Astros?
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QUOTE(pengejar @ Sep 9 2011, 12:22 AM)
k-tard not suitable to be paratrooper, fap 24/7 later if join paratrooper after parachute landing kepala lutut patah. kan best if malaysia like swiss, reserve can bring their rifle home. everyday can usap-usap cuci-cuci.
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Although it's called the Swiss Army (Schweizer Armee) ,it's actually more of a militia force,with only 5% of officers being professionals,with the rest bring conscripts,citizens are called up for conscription beginning at age 19 or 20. After the basic training training period of 300 days. he/she will return to a semi-civilian with a normal job with regular call-ups for mandatory annual training. This is why the Swiss army allows its ALL of its members (active or reserve) to bring their weapons home,to acclimatize themselves with their weapons during these periods.

This state of 'Active Military Readiness" lasts until a citizen is 30 years old for enlisted ranks and 50 years old for senior officers. It's only after this period that the Swiss citizen is released from 'active' military duties and pass into the reserves where they can begin a fully civilian way of life. So it be argued that this constitute it as a Militia force rather than a Military body.This also makes it different from regular conscription armies ,in which usually a fixed term is set for active military service,for example;2 years;where a citizen will be a full-time soldier during that period only,and passing into a reserve force after the period.

While active soldiers can bring their personal weapons home,full auto and all,a citizen at the end of his service has the choice to keep their weapons or to return them to a government armory. If a reservist chooses to keep his weapons,he is required to take them to a government armory to have the full-auto feature removed from the weapon. While this may sound horrifying (with dudes carrying assault rifles going shopping...),it is within the militia system and perfectly legal and normal.

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A Swiss Militiaman going shopping?

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A Swiss Militiaman browsing for a new iPad?

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Swiss babes going cycling also bring assault rifles?WTF,Switzerland?

So beware of pissing off your new-found Swiss friend,he IS practically an soldier with a fully loaded automatic weapon under his bed,ok? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(DeFaeco @ Sep 9 2011, 09:26 AM)
So there are no specialization at all within the regiment?

You're either a soldier or a paratrooper? No medics or radioman or recon elements, etc?
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different regiment have different speciality like 505 in kuantan is Armor while in Kluang is air division

QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Sep 9 2011, 09:52 AM)
I dun think theres many Astros users. So why we didnt JV with them to revive Astros?
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good idea
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