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post Mar 18 2011, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 18 2011, 09:37 PM)
by the looks of her dress, she is also an RMAF personnel
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hmm...maybe that kid with the high powered binoculars is a indo spy.i bet that kid is now in Kamunting Detention Center.kesian...at least she can play with JI detainees
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hi guys, i wonder why did the soldiers/army in WW 1 like to stand & march forward in 1 row by 1 row, when they march forward to the enemy, they are FREELY being shot by enemy... doh.gif

what kind of tactics was that ? doh.gif



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Libya crisis: Britain, France and US prepare for air strikes against Gaddafi

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Gaddafi loyalists in Libya. The Libyan defence ministry said it would target all air and maritime traffic in the Mediterranean in the event of foreign intervention. Photograph: Mohamed Messara/EPA

British, French and US military aircraft are preparing to defend the Libyan rebel stronghold of Benghazi after Washington said it was ready to support a no-fly zone and air strikes against Muammar Gaddafi's forces.
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Armed with UN mandate for force, Obama warns Gaddafi

US President Barack Obama ordered Colonel Muammar Gaddafi today to implement a ceasefire immediately and stop all attacks on Libyan civilians or face military action from the United States and its allies in Europe and the Arab world.

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Airstrikes has begun it seems...
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QUOTE(FlameReaper @ Mar 20 2011, 07:01 AM)
Libya can win or not?? ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(hack3line @ Mar 20 2011, 07:19 AM)
Libya can win or not??  ohmy.gif
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cannot win...
radar and airdefence sure gone when they start to strike Libya...
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For once, the world suddenly starts to respect the French again, and I find it funny.
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First wave of allied assault on Libyan air defenses

WASHINGTON (AP) - U.S. and British ships and submarines launched the first phase of a missile assault on Libyan air defenses, firing 112 Tomahawk cruise missiles Saturday at more than 20 coastal targets to clear the way for air patrols to ground Libya's air force.

In announcing the mission during a visit to Brazil, President Barack Obama said he was reluctant to resort to force but was convinced it was necessary to save the lives of civilians. He reiterated that he would not send American ground troops to Libya.

"We cannot stand idly by when a tyrant tells his people there will be no mercy," he said in Brasilia.

It was clear the U.S. intended to limit its role in the Libya intervention, focusing first on disabling or otherwise silencing Libyan air defenses, and then leaving it to European and perhaps Arab countries to enforce a no-fly zone over the North African nation.

Navy Vice Adm. William E. Gortney, director of the Pentagon's Joint Staff, told reporters the cruise missile assault was the "leading edge" of a coalition campaign dubbed Operation Odyssey Dawn. Its aim: prevent Moammar Gadhafi's forces from inflicting more violence on civilians -- particularly in and around the rebel stronghold of Benghazi -- and degrading the Libyan military's ability to contest a no-fly zone.

A chief target of Saturday's cruise missile attack was Libya's SA-5 surface-to-air missiles, which are considered a moderate threat to some allied aircraft. Libya's overall air defenses are based on older Soviet technology but Gortney called them capable and a potential threat to allied aircraft.

Also targeted: early warning radars and unspecified communications facilities, Gortney said. The U.S. military has extensive recent experience in such combat missions; U.S. Air Force and Navy aircraft repeatedly attacked Iraq's air defenses during the 1990s while enforcing a no-fly zone over Iraq's Kurdish north.

Cruise missiles are the weapon of first choice in such campaigns; they do not put pilots at risk, and they use navigational technologies that provide good precision.

The first Tomahawk cruise missiles struck at 3 p.m. EDT, Gortney said, after a one-hour flight from the U.S. and British vessels on station in the Mediterranean.

The U.S. has at least 11 naval vessels in the Mediterranean, including three submarines, two destroyers, two amphibious warfare ships and the USS Mount Whitney, a command-and-control vessel that is the flagship of the Navy's 6th Fleet. Also in the area are Navy P-3 and EP-3 surveillance aircraft, officials said.

Gortney said it would take as long as 12 hours to assess the effectiveness of Saturday's strikes. Then a high-altitude Global Hawk unmanned surveillance plane would overfly the target areas to get a more precise view, the admiral said. He would not say how long the attacks on Libyan air defenses would last, but he stressed that Saturday's assault with cruise missiles was the first phase of a multi-stage mission.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who was scheduled to fly to Russia on Saturday afternoon to begin a week-long overseas trip, postponed his departure for 24 hours. Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said Gates decided he should remain in Washington to monitor developments in Libya at the outset of U.S. strikes.

Gates had been skeptical of getting involved in Libya's civil war, telling Congress earlier this month that taking out Libya's air defenses was tantamount to war. Others have worried that the mission could put the U.S. on a slippery slope to deeper involvement in yet another Muslim country - on top of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Hours after Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton attended an international conference in Paris that endorsed military action against Gadhafi, the U.S. and Britain kicked off their attacks.

At a news conference in Paris, Clinton said Gadhafi had left the world no choice but to intervene urgently and forcefully to protect further loss of civilian life. "We have every reason to fear that, left unchecked, Gadhafi would commit unspeakable atrocities," she told reporters.

Clinton said there was no evidence that Gadhafi's forces were respecting an alleged cease-fire they proclaimed and the time for action was now.

"Our assessment is that the aggressive action by Gadhafi's forces continues in many parts of the country," she said. "We have seen no real effort on the part of the Gadhafi forces to abide by a cease-fire."

Among the U.S. Navy ships in the Mediterranean were two guided-missile destroyers, the USS Barry and USS Stout, as well as two amphibious warships, the USS Kearsarge and USS Ponce, and a command-and-control ship, the USS Mount Whitney. The submarine USS Providence was also in the Mediterranean.

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QUOTE(hack3line @ Mar 20 2011, 07:19 AM)
Libya can win or not??  ohmy.gif
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libya fighter plane shot down, twice?
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QUOTE(kuan1234 @ Mar 20 2011, 09:14 AM)
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libya fighter plane shot down, twice?
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Sources say that this is a rebel fighter shot down, some sources said it's shot down by friendlies while others say it's Ghadaffi's force which took it down.

Well, it's an aging MiG-23 though. Frenchies reported one A2A victory but no information on what they hit. Some say it's not that pic of the MiG-23 since this is before any coalition aircraft even sortied.

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post Mar 20 2011, 10:46 AM

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I wonder the pilot survive or not
is too low to eject ....
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post Mar 20 2011, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(kuan1234 @ Mar 20 2011, 10:46 AM)
I wonder the pilot survive or not
is too low to eject ....
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if u eject on ground, u still can survive safely..
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QUOTE(kuan1234 @ Mar 20 2011, 09:46 AM)
I wonder the pilot survive or not
is too low to eject ....
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Nope. The pilot died because the chute failed to deploy. Well, as you said, the altitude's too low for a chute to deploy properly.
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QUOTE(FlameReaper @ Mar 20 2011, 07:37 AM)
For once, the world suddenly starts to respect the French again, and I find it funny.
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who the heck would respect a zionist midget president.... doh.gif ...sorry guys hv to let it out... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(win7)
hi guys, i wonder why did the soldiers/army in WW 1 like to stand & march forward in 1 row by 1 row, when they march forward to the enemy, they are FREELY being shot by enemy... 

what kind of tactics was that ? 


Actually, they run like hell in formation towards enemy trenches under MG fire and rifle fire for some bayonet fun after some hours, or even days of artillery barrage on enemy position. At that time there was no other way and most of the battlefield is fought at the trench which is a defensive static warfare. When the tank appear on the battlefield and the more fluid and mobile warfare exist (such as Blitzkrieg), you'll see the new evolution of human's Organized Warfare.






QUOTE(FlameReaper @ Mar 20 2011, 07:37 AM)
For once, the world suddenly starts to respect the French again, and I find it funny.
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Their Foreign Legion is respectable though.........because it consist mainly of non-French personnel lol biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(chimera @ Mar 20 2011, 10:18 AM)
who the heck would respect a zionist midget president.... doh.gif ...sorry guys hv to let it out... tongue.gif
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Not talking about the president, and I can't care less about that.

I'm talking about the country of France as a whole.
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French has always been fail. Suddenly they just become instant win during the attack.
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QUOTE(hack3line @ Mar 20 2011, 07:19 AM)
Libya can win or not??  ohmy.gif
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kenot win la..Libyan have older aircrafts, like Mig 23, Mig 25, Mirage F1, up against F16, F18, Mirage 2000-5, Tornado, Typhoon and Rafale

Respect for the French, went on and destroyed tanks that are attacking civilian homes...

C'mon Frenchies, get some!!!!
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post Mar 20 2011, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(hack3line @ Mar 20 2011, 07:19 AM)
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just ask yourself this , WIth aLL the so CAlled Might of the USAF& its allied did they really won IRAQ & AFGHAN ?

they were so afraid to die they send useless drones to missiles home and farm. How can you win war with Cowards ?

If Gadafi falls Libyan would be another Iraq , where thousands of people being slaughtered daily without justification.

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