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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V4, Anticipating D700 replacement !

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Agito666
post Feb 11 2011, 12:41 AM

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do you think d800 will better than d7000?? hmm.gif
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post Feb 11 2011, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 11 2011, 09:51 AM)
Bro, don't worry so much; Most important is you to choose what you feel best and which you prefer more; People who prefer different system will favor the system over the other. Some people prefer the feel of Canon, or maybe the "brand/name" like fashion, the design and menu system, the performance, etc. or vice versa. Most important is what YOU feel, not others. The best is to try out yourself.

As for pictures, it's more about skills; Camera is just the tool to help to take picture, just like art tools help artist paints. Of course, good tools will help, but skills is still more important.
For the colour differences, if there are differences, probably becuase they shoot JPEG, but EVEN within same system, the JPEG image colour produce from different model of the SAME brand can be different.

ANYWAY, eventually or most probably you're going to edit or post process (pp) the photos (especially if you shoot raw), so you're still going to tune the colours to your personal preferences. Even if you're not going to pp the photos, there is still "picture control" in the camera you can set AND also adjust to your personal preferences;
So, first, check with the person who tells you about the colour thingy, do they play and adjust the "picture control" or do they do pp?
Personally, I would say this is not really an issue unless one just use standard/same picture control and compare.
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yes he did some minor post production in photo (?), and i did ask him the picture before product haha...anyway just wan heard different opinion form different people laugh.gif

and i m lazy adjust colour haha...if can wan jsut shoot in camera and transfer to PC and post online enough haha laugh.gif
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1)noob question: full frame and 4/3' sensor beside the ratio difference...what else got difference? hmm.gif let's say full frame body and mid range body...focus speed? aperture? ISO??... (i'm not get full frame anyway...get D7000 is more than enough for me...still long way to go to break my piggy bank laugh.gif )

2)i got 1 friend also playing nikon...we buy D70s together , then later he upgrade to D90 while i "hibernate" that time lol...now when i "wake up" again and i ask his opinion what model to buy since i wan a "live-view" since now i alraedy get used with touch screen phone snap snap photo...(and sensor cleaning too lol...D70s dun have)....
he recommended D3100 and D7000...but he say same thing la... play lens enough, body is secondary... but i wan get D7000 and get spec kau kau so later i also will learn photograhpy kau kau because i pay for that body kau kau laugh.gif
*if i get D3100 later scare boh syok because no AF there (if i get non-af lens) and i m lazy sell DSLR second hand body... laugh.gif

(correct me if i m wrong in this info again unsure.gif )
(by the way i use photoshop to draw more than i editing photo haha...)

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post Feb 11 2011, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 11 2011, 10:32 AM)
1)Wider sensor means better ISO handling capability (you don't have to bump up your ISO as much as APS-C do, as your sensor capture more light), you get the actual focal length of your lens mean when you buy 50mm lens you will get 50mm lens unlike ASP-C with it's cropped factor (Nikon 1.5x, Canon 1.6x, Canon APS-H 1.3x), built quality indeed, usually come with better specs like 8/9 fps, superb AF system, CLS capability, better control in the body (not like entry level body where you have dig up the menu to change the control), of course better control placement.
2)he is correct I myself do recommended starter to get either D7k or D3100. APS-C sensor model doesn't make any much difference, except the CLS, built-quality and AF.
but entry level AF is actually sufficient <- come back to the person.
Lens is the major things when we are talking about ASP-C even FF lens still do a major difference I suppose. Do remember model does deprecate, today you say d7k GODLIKE 2 years later you say so-so. so does lens do deprecate, however good lens does deprecate slower true fact, 50mm 1.2 Ais <- still owning in its class, however due to technological problem there is no AF on the lens.
3)I got to say I am more than agree, PP is boring, tiring and taking a long time.
yet if you don't do it <- usually I am too lazy to do it.
You wouldn't get amazing (woah2) color tone <- Correct me if I am wrong on this
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1) thanks thumbup.gif
2) getting D3100 scare will not liking it, because entry level body is light and small...grip also not nice haha...last time holding colleague's canon 400D i feel like doh.gif...
actually i m not really new to photography...learn before but not really deep into it...and once hibernate for years...now awaken because of KLIMS 2010 hot chicks drool.gif
3) yes, post production photo is tiresome haha...except among many photos let's say 200-300 i will choose 2-3 photos to edit only.
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post Feb 11 2011, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 11 2011, 11:09 AM)
Get whatever thing you feel you suit most, it doesn't have to be Nikon, or Canon. Leica also geng larr  brows.gif  brows.gif
LOL...
you are more than welcome.
I can't hold my patient when PP it on my laptop. even open RAW file also hard.  vmad.gif
CPU processor goes to 100% immediately  doh.gif
RAW PP  hmm.gif
I takes me more than 3 days for 50 pics I guess
Will do better bro.  thumbup.gif
Thanks. I really2 need to learn on that.
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1) Leica? sponsor mari mari brows.gif
2) My CPU also lag once open A4 setting in PS for drawing.
3) Due to confortable with D70s body that's why entry level DSLR is feel like plastic for me? hmm.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 11 2011, 11:19 AM)
When lighting is just nice, need to apply a bit SKII only tongue.gif.

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too dark cannot see clearly drool.gif
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post Feb 11 2011, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 11 2011, 11:32 AM)
2) Don't worry, there're no rules for photography nor must to do PP.

Most important is whether you're satisfied with the results. OR if you're shooting for somebody/client, just make sure they like it; If they like move vivid colours, then adjust the camera picture controls, etc.

PP is just like "add-on"; You can explore later when you want to. Who knows, maybe one day you see some photo looks really nice after PP, then you have the sudden urge to do it; just like how you were "awaken" back into photography  tongue.gif
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i only do PP if i got model like in my siggy laugh.gif
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QUOTE(bagata @ Feb 11 2011, 11:48 AM)
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D7000
F10
1/20
ISO100

More =)
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how to make the background like that? looks like had to shake the camera? but if shake then front subject also will blured right? rclxub.gif
(didn't read a lot photography stuff, instead of that i read a lot manga lol laugh.gif )

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QUOTE(lpyycy @ Feb 11 2011, 12:02 PM)
pic spam...comment please...

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DSC_3103 by lpy_87, on Flickr
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need higher contrast? hmm.gif
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post Feb 11 2011, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(lpyycy @ Feb 11 2011, 12:20 PM)
mean PP to get higher contrast? this is no edit...
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ya...since fireworks i guess hard to capture?... i never capture fireworks but my friend did last time...
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 11 2011, 12:58 PM)
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nice plane... did this photo different with the previous you posted last few posts up there? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 11 2011, 01:02 PM)
I never realized I've posted it. xD
edited. change the perspective of the plane. tongue.gif
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got 45 degree ngam ngam punye shot? tongue.gif

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 11 2011, 01:05 PM)
is this considered cat-eye bokeh?  hmm.gif
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what is that? lol... even the "bokeh" word/term i just learn in last month laugh.gif
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 11 2011, 01:31 PM)
cat-eye bokeh.
round round punya bokeh. like cat eye. tongue.gif
I myself not sure, therefore still ask. hahaha
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i take off my glasses straight all bokeh laugh.gif no need 1.2f biggrin.gif
(left far-sight 300 degree something, right eyes cannot focus on strong light, change the value a lot due do both of my left eye... so my eyes is not stable lolol..rclxub.gif )

oh ya view finder max can adjust how many for far-sight? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Feb 11 2011, 02:03 PM)
nop. different color tone bro the one I posted initially cold color tone.. smile.gif
just some perspective. kindly check it. haha..
Will do gallery thread later. Thanks for the suggestion
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wan comment feedback? post ah moi photos sure got a lot comments laugh.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 11 2011, 10:32 PM)
In terms of IQ, the Nikon 1635 tapao the Canon leh lol.

You happen to know Nikon UWA are excellent.
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UWA=?
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post Feb 12 2011, 01:14 AM

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oh ya wan to ask for who shooting in shopping complex...can meh? i mean last time when you bring DSLR in let's say KLCC, they wont dun allow you in meh?

also now the people will run away when you shoot them? (or did you use tele lens ? brows.gif)
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QUOTE(Isepunye @ Feb 12 2011, 02:54 AM)
produk gagal lol
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looks photoshop a lot.
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battery? i leave it in D70s body for weeks seems fine.... i guess months...
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QUOTE(daze @ Feb 14 2011, 12:41 AM)
Keep ur 18-105mm.
add an ultra wide or a 50mm prime.
how often u'll need to zoom more than 105mm for walkabout n travel.??
i guess u'll cry for wider zoom more than super telezoom for a walkabout or travel.

just my 2 cent
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since we have our LEG as zoom? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Feb 14 2011, 01:32 AM)
i also donno. but if i compare primes and zoom, primes will be brighter...
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because prime lens is shorter so lesser "black" objects to absorb light when light travel through the lens? laugh.gif whistling.gif
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sample sample pls unsure.gif stalk for long time only see numbers here...totally no idea what you talking about tongue.gif



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