Aaah...

What started as a projector thread has turned into a LCD vs Plasma thread.

As of today, neither plasma nor LCD is obsolete.

The last few years have seen a few players exiting the display industry altogether. Fujitsu exit the industry a couple of years ago, Sony stopped making plasmas and started working with other LCD manufacturers to focus on LCD, Hitachi exit the plasma market. Some early players like Toshiba and Sharp big name players in the LCD industry stopped working on displays in the Americas and Europe and only makes displays for Asian consumption. Last year Pioneer exit the industry altogether.

Lets face it, this is just not good news to the display industry. The main players now are Samsung, LG and Panasonic. Contrary to popular belief, all three of them do both LCD and Plasma. Panny is mainly plasma, while the other 2 are mainly LCDs.

The projector industry has also been making good strides. Improvements in the light source with PhatLight LED light source now enables bulbs that are supposed to last as long as 20000hrs. Thats a long time. LCOS and SXRD both hybrids from the LCD pj technology have made significant improvements. TI which dominated the DLP for quite a long time has made quite a bit of improvements to their technology and there seems to be some competition for them soon.

In short, for the sake of keeping these manufacturers honest, we need the LCD, plasma and the pj to compete with each other. For me at least,, I would like plasma to continue being significant to keep the LCD makers to further improve. OLED shd come in the next 5 yrs to keep pushing the envelope.

While many believe that plasma is dying a slow death, the invent of 3D which is better suited for the phosphor technology at the moment seems to have shown some revival for plasma. Plasma has some tricks up its sleeve like 5 lumens tech, but the industry seems to be moving towards 3D more this year.

So, let's all agree that at the moment the more these guys compete the better and lower the cost of displays will be for consumers.

This post has been edited by anfieldude: Jan 21 2011, 04:31 PM

LCD picture quality can not be as good as 'obsolete' plasma.

Only now is LED picture quality approaching (not surpassing) 'obsolete' plasma.

So now it seems when it comes to PQ, it's a choice between 'obsolete' tech and 'lousy-PQ' tech.

The way I looked at it, those who buy TV for picture quality goes for 'obsolete' tech Plasma.

Those who buy TV to show friend they have big TV goes for 'lousy-PQ' tech. Never mind picture quality not nice. It's the size that counts.

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Added on January 21, 2011, 4:49 pmSure everything in this world will past. Even the mighty "the sun will never set" British Empire had passed. It's a matter of when.

The way I looked at it, for big sized TV, Plasma's cost:performance advantage will be around for quite a few more years.

BTW, LED will pass....it will be replaced also by something newer in time to come. Just don't know when



This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Jan 21 2011, 04:49 PM

alright guys.. let's agree to disagree. and thanks for the one who provided this link. at least that's something from an official channel and not from opinions and word of mouths

what of those projectors? id say that it was a trend going downhill. a projector setup is definitely more expensive and space consuming as u need to set a room for your setup. an lcd tv requires less total space. u can even use LCD tv as your pc monitor; cant do the same with projectors.

Going by that argument, the best car in Malaysia is the Kancil simply because there are more of those on our Malaysian road. And by that same argument, Ferrari and Rolls Royce are the lousiest car because people don't buy them and they must be 'obsolete' tech.

But I do agree that LCD/LED outsell Plasma not because Plasma is lousy but rather a lot of consumers are ignorant and hoodwinked by salesperson and people like yourself. And yes, Plasma has it's drawback and so do LCD/LEd. Go into any showroom and the vast majority of salesman repeat the same urban myth of "plasma is obsolete" without explaining to the consumers the pros and cons of both technologies. These salesperson are simply one-sided 'know nothing' idiots. The truth of the matter is, if PQ, size and money is at the top of your list, then Plasma is very competitive and should not be dismissed simply because some idiot say "it's obsolete" tech,.

Now here is some food for thought for those with brain. Why is it that, in Western market, Plasma is doing very well. Are the Westerner stupid or are Malaysian consumer stupid?

For me, my main complaint about Plasma are the reflective screen. I can live with the other cons of Plasma like increase power consumption (but then, I am not so poor as not able to afford a few cent more per day higher electricity bills). As for the greater weight, I do not have the habit of dong weight lifting with it on daily basis so I can live with it also.



This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Jan 21 2011, 05:03 PM

Ferarri and bentleys also more expensive than toyota but u don't see them disappear. Cant compare men to boys.

Goodness gracious me!

We're talking about cars now?

I never said Plasma lousy, but I dislike the way of plasma - they way it display, the reflective screen, the weight, the heat and etc, you can't said I am ignorant and hoodwinked by salesperson.

Sorry lo.... I never listen to salesperson.......... anything I buy because I like it and look for it and check myself. Trust ourself is the best way not regret buying any things in life.

It not means buying plasma is brainless v/s LCD/LED. It all base on what you like.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Jan 21 2011, 05:19 PM

Obsolete = don't look at it = don't buy = lousy = you will regret = whatever. Different wording. Same meaning.

As for the way it's being displayed. Go check out a Full HD version. When watching at near distance, I do see line scan on HD Ready version. For big screen, Plasma is the most cost effective solution, assuming you can accept it's other fault but obsolete tech shouldn't one of the reason to reject.

It's a metaphor

I pd..

Circa RM8k for d hd250..

D

who said LED TV screen not reflective??

buys n gurls, enjoy the age of choice, not get all beaten up over it.

dun think we wanna go back to the age of ford model t - you can have any color you like as long as it is black.

and the lak of plasma tvs as a choice signifies something. betamax is superior to vhs but it was obsolete earlier than vhs

geddit boys?

Ok.

yup,

like turn table and records, it never die.........

Unfortunately some people mistakenly thought the reason why LCD outsell Plasma is due to Plasma being older technology. IMO, the main 2 reasons why Plasma sell less:

1. People with not enough money will buy the smaller screen and smaller screen are all dominated by LCD. On the other hand, bigger screen (read....expensive) are mainly dominated by Plasma
2. Lots of people spreading half baked ideas that Plasma is old technology.

some people need holes drilled into their heads...

This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Jan 21 2011, 08:44 PM

How much is the HC3800 now in malaysia? how bout HC4000? Thanks

Listen to a good turntable (a really really old obsolete technology) and you will know what's being produced is true music. In comparison, some newer technology digital CD are merely notes and sound in comparison.

Unfortunately many people are being seduced by the term "digital" and "newer technology" and "perfect sound every time" advertisement slogan of Philips and never mind the inferior sound.


This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Jan 21 2011, 08:49 PM

To me..

It is.. considerin blck lvls, brightness/contrast n lcos tech [dila, if u r gonna be anal..] wif 'dust-no-issue' n no rbe's.. ya, I d say tis is my dream PJ [I m a poor man .. u see ]

Of cos its not for everybdy.. n proj issues r stil ther in bulb life/ambient lite..

D

Hope this kills the myth that Plasma is on the way out and all those 'obsolete' tech rubbish once and for all. As far as PQ is concern, Plasma is still top dog.

"Plasma televisions have seen a major decrease in pricing. The price difference and aggressive LCD TV marketing has given the illusion that plasma televisions are on their way out. But that's not true. Plasma televisions are known for their true-to- life picture quality and affordability over the alternatives."

http://www.ehow.com/about_5379396_plasma-vs-led-tvs.html