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post Apr 4 2011, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(CityBluePrint @ Jan 18 2011, 03:18 PM)
Ah! Another controversial thread here. This has been troubling my mind lately
everSince King Kenny thinks the Referee Webb's penalty decision against Liverpool is a joke!
& Similarly Babel was punished 10K for his twittering 'joke'.
I thought then this will be  a great & timely thread to discuss & address it in every football forum.
Let me begin here by quoting what one of our resident 'Pulis' has to say
Pyro was referring to 3 card Graham Poll in his dailymail column

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...5.html?ITO=1490
As usual be civil & follow forum rules.

My guidelines.
1. Start by giving your opinion whether current batch of FA refereeing is a joke.
2. Why & cite instances i.e. give examples &
3 Then you can blow off your steam or AIR  your beef according to your MOOD. wink.gif


4. And if you like give suggestions what mitigating steps can be carried out by all involved in Righting the 'FA Respect the Referees' Campaign' (if its warranted IYO)
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To those who join this thread please read above guidelines.!


Not surprisingly an uncouth & crude mustard (thank goodness there's not many) popped up like a weasel. An illiterate dolt who plagiarized, copycat & doesn't even know his club history. Who is being pawned or exposed for regurgitating but not able to comprehend any semblance of football trivia. His lack of football knowledge and tools (to wit kaki bangku) even to articulate or comment about serious football make him resort to vulgarity. How I wonder they pass ESL 100?


Take a deep breath and read carefully about 'Respect the Referees Campaign ' thread lest you be judged a complete jackass & idiot.
Thats what users of this forum should be debating.
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post Apr 4 2011, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(CityBluePrint @ Apr 4 2011, 09:11 AM)
It was only recently that Premier League chief executive Richard Scudamore announced a crackdown on the "unacceptable" behaviour by players and managers towards referees.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/9442760.stm
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QUOTE(CityBluePrint @ Apr 4 2011, 09:20 AM)
And true to form without so much as a breather or lull Rooney 'blew English football’s brave new Respect agenda out of the water."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...t-campaign.html

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Patrick Collins of the Daily mail claims that "Rooney's foulmouthed tirade makes an instant mockery of new Respect campaign."

Those of us, sensible football fans, believe so. doh.gif
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QUOTE(CityBluePrint @ Apr 4 2011, 09:30 AM)
Graham Poll suggests that The Football Association should ban Wayne Rooney for three games.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...oney-games.html
My take

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My posts above is to keep this thread "the FA Respect the Referees Campaign" back on track. Its not only my opinion but that of others (real football pundits and commentators) who deem that there are miscreants (footballers & managers) making especially "INSTANT MOCKERY" of the respect Campaign.

Question is are we serious about it?
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post Apr 4 2011, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(BoltonMan @ Apr 4 2011, 11:11 AM)
better then some player, go fly dart to youth player ...
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post Apr 4 2011, 11:23 AM

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I've never thought much of the whole "Respect the Referees Campaign". I can see why it is necessary but it needs to be clearly stated where the line is drawn. I generally do not think that authorities should be given too much protection to the extent they do not need to be accountable for dodgy decisions. Sometimes, all someone wants to hear is the referee go, "I apologise, I got it wrong". I'm sure everyone will understand as the game happens in real time, and his decisions must be made without the benefit of video replays. They are bound to get it wrong sometimes. I think it's only fair that they can be questioned, because their calls can be worth millions of pounds.

Having said all that, statistics prove that the campaign has generated some positive results.

- Assault on referees are down 13%
- Referee numbers are up 7.4%
- Dissent cautions across the top four divisions are down 9%

(source : http://www.thefa.com/leagues/respect).

While I do feel that referee should not be untouchable, I do feel that any petition against them, or vocal disagreement undermining his authority should be kept behind closed doors and out of the media. You don't want to see fans taking their manager's lead, berrating the ref at each given opportunity. I've referees games before and I absolutely hate doing so because you're almost bound to have someone in your face at some point.
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post Apr 4 2011, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(choy89 @ Apr 4 2011, 12:59 PM)
WTF! this thread is alive after alot of weeks??
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yes, because recently involve a united player bout swearing.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 4 2011, 11:23 AM)
I've never thought much of the whole "Respect the Referees Campaign". I can see why it is necessary but it needs to be clearly stated where the line is drawn. I generally do not think that authorities should be given too much protection to the extent they do not need to be accountable for dodgy decisions. Sometimes, all someone wants to hear is the referee go, "I apologise, I got it wrong". I'm sure everyone will understand as the game happens in real time, and his decisions must be made without the benefit of video replays. They are bound to get it wrong sometimes. I think it's only fair that they can be questioned, because their calls can be worth millions of pounds.

Having said all that, statistics prove that the campaign has generated some positive results.

- Assault on referees are down 13%
- Referee numbers are up 7.4%
- Dissent cautions across the top four divisions are down 9%

(source : http://www.thefa.com/leagues/respect).

While I do feel that referee should not be untouchable, I do feel that any petition against them, or vocal disagreement undermining his authority should be kept behind closed doors and out of the media. You don't want to see fans taking their manager's lead, berrating the ref at each given opportunity. I've referees games before and I absolutely hate doing so because you're almost bound to have someone in your face at some point.
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i agree on your points that referees can be questioned and aswerable but ONLY ON CLOSED DOORS ENVIRONMENT. Demand for public apology for every mistake they make will reduce the integrity and raise the stress of the profession. People voluntarily to become referee will become less and less.

If the referee are bound to apologize if they make a mistake, then i also demand all players and managers to publicly apologize if they make a mistake. Their decision making on and off the field also effect millions of pound.

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Apr 4 2011, 02:41 PM
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Have you ever try auditioning for 'raja lawak'?

I seriously will vote for you CBP.

You're seriously funny like hell.

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post Apr 4 2011, 11:34 PM

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let me speak on behalf of cbp:

"rooney should be banned 10 matches for his swearing...take a deep breath and read again this statement"

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post Apr 4 2011, 11:41 PM

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we should not layan him!! haha!!
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post Apr 5 2011, 01:19 AM

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Wayne Rooney faces a two-match ban by the Football Association for using offensive language
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/12950670.stm

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FA rules state: "A participant shall at all times act in the best interests of the game and shall not act in any manner which is improper or brings the game into disrepute or use any one, or a combination of, violent conduct, serious foul play, threatening, abusive, indecent or insulting words or behaviour."

About time this big name player should be held accountable for his uncouth & crude behaviour not only towards the officials but also towards grannies, parents and children. Else as pointed out it make 'INSTANT MOCKERY' and other players will follow suit and have utter contempt for the RESPECT campaign.

Likewise here in this forum there are many others here, certain segment of posters here that are belligerent, obnoxious, abusive, indecent and offensive in their behaviour especially those who deemed themselves as 'seniors'. As pointed out most of them are kaki bangkus and knows very little about real football (really play competitive football) to provide insightful comments about football matches and their clubs too.

Their seniority in their opinion accord them the privilege to be abusive and intolerant to their own member fans in their thread even to the extent of chasing them away. Let me quote YCNMIU

QUOTE(boxsystem @ Apr 3 2011, 07:37 PM)
The stupidity of this thread is beyond me. These days, muppetry levels increased by a fold. Which is why most of the senior posters went MIA.
The season is still on going and 7 matches away from ending. People already talking about replacements? I can understand to some extend but most of it are pure muppetry.
Whenever the team doesn't play well, we need new players lah. We should buy A-Z names lah. WTF? Show some respect to the team and our current players.
I've been reading the thread silently and I feel ashamed with some of you claiming to be a RED through and through. Team losses, Carrick and Gibbo are the usual suspects.
Teams aren't supposed made of superstars. If you're looking things on that perspective, go support Real, Chelsea or City. Heck, are they even winning anything at the moment? How/What about are their performances lately? Better than us?
The team is still in contention to challenge for 3 MAJOR CUPS in England/Europe and you people still whine? What a bunch of whiny/idiots you all are. Try being a Pool/Arsenal fan for that matter. Not winning anything for years. I wonder, what kind of posts would I see in here.
Okay, let me rephrase this. We should buy Young because he is quality? Didn't any of you think that we could buy him because Valencia, Park were all out back then? And now, most of our wingers are back and there are still some of you whining about him or Bale to join us?
And people already written off Obertan, Bebe and Gibbo? Ronaldo was nowhere bear BPITW level back then. He trained hard and instilled a self belief. It is simple as this, if SAF believes those players are worth to be kept around, so should we. Why would doubt the man who brought a lot of success to United?
Yes, there are days his decisions are baffling but he knows the team best. He knows the players very closely and what do we know besides knowing them through FM? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Apr 3 2011, 07:44 PM)
Lol..Funny. Since when we are not allowed to say something whenever things not goin our way. rolleyes.gif So, by saying what I said, I am wrong? I have no faith in the team? Did I said the team stupid or wat or calling names? Come on, we don need another pulis on this thread.
U want to shut the heck up it's ur problem. I couldn't care less whistling.gif I got my own way to vent my frustration. Keeping my mouth shut is not one of them.

Oh, and to go back the page one by one to quote on ppl's post, I must say good job. You should become a pulis. And yeah, you must be one heck of Man Utd fan. A real one that is, others are just fake bcos they voice their dissatisfaction... wink.gif
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QUOTE(whoopa @ Apr 3 2011, 08:48 PM)
senior so what? senior do not give you a god give right to insult people. LOL  thumbup.gif
yea no one care abt my tosai question.

also if liverpool let themselves lose to arsenal for 3 points i dont really care. we win our game against arsenal is the same back to square one. biarla mereka kalah and we can troll them. LOL.
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I know why these 'seniors' should keep their mouth shut instead of proferring their inane comments which exposed them as ignorant. Is that why they are abusive and unsportsmanlike?
Here's an example why they deemed themselves as a senior
QUOTE(maxizanc @ Apr 5 2007, 01:23 PM)
I think in CL they got one camera focusing at one player i mean each player, there are a camera focus at em all the time.. so i guess the just... guess...

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Apr 19 2009, 09:08 PM)
Back in 2007, what the heck did i write here? doh.gif
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...sing+techniques

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Oh...Welcome back TS rclxms.gif Well done there i must say. When City lose and Man Utd win, u nowhere in the forum. Once Man Utd in trouble or MC win, pop out from nowhere and so hardworking share the news.

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I have finally mastered the ability to find humour at everything cbp posted...really lol, not sarcastically
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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Apr 5 2011, 01:56 AM)
I can just imagine him refreshing soccernet awaiting for the news like transfer muppets refreshing for transfer dateline deals, and when the news was posted jumped up and yeaps excitedly and start finding posts to quote, all the way until 2007 laugh.gif

when lunatics have internet access hahahaha laugh.gif
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LOL suddenly he quote my posts.
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CBP, you like that quote...people lazy wanna read..damn long.


Added on April 5, 2011, 1:15 pmCBP, you like that quote...people lazy wanna read..damn long.

This post has been edited by nshady: Apr 5 2011, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 4 2011, 03:23 AM)
I've never thought much of the whole "Respect the Referees Campaign". I can see why it is necessary but it needs to be clearly stated where the line is drawn. I generally do not think that authorities should be given too much protection to the extent they do not need to be accountable for dodgy decisions. Sometimes, all someone wants to hear is the referee go, "I apologise, I got it wrong". I'm sure everyone will understand as the game happens in real time, and his decisions must be made without the benefit of video replays. They are bound to get it wrong sometimes. I think it's only fair that they can be questioned, because their calls can be worth millions of pounds.

Having said all that, statistics prove that the campaign has generated some positive results.

- Assault on referees are down 13%
- Referee numbers are up 7.4%
- Dissent cautions across the top four divisions are down 9%

(source : http://www.thefa.com/leagues/respect).

While I do feel that referee should not be untouchable, I do feel that any petition against them, or vocal disagreement undermining his authority should be kept behind closed doors and out of the media. You don't want to see fans taking their manager's lead, berrating the ref at each given opportunity. I've referees games before and I absolutely hate doing so because you're almost bound to have someone in your face at some point.
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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Apr 4 2011, 06:05 AM)
i agree on your points that referees can be questioned and aswerable but ONLY ON CLOSED DOORS ENVIRONMENT. Demand for public apology for every mistake they make will reduce the integrity and raise the stress of the profession. People voluntarily to become referee will become less and less.

If the referee are bound to apologize if they make a mistake, then i also demand all players and managers to publicly apologize if they make a mistake. Their decision making on and off the field also effect millions of pound.
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See only a couple or so members here really follow the guideliness of this thread by TS. Though they disagree they offered their viewpoints or suggestions. Most of you are just plain silly or unbelievable. Of course Rooney's suspension is widely being broadcasted and his behaviour being flailed by the media. His suspension is topic du jour. Similarly too when United manager was suspended for bringing the FA to disrepute.
So isn't it appropriate that when they are charged for disrespecting the FA campaign that this shouldn't be debated or discussed in this thread? Pray tell me who else is disrespecting the FA campaign? And being found guilty?

Is CityBP being mendacious or making it up? Can we discussed the merits or demerits of the campaign or the fairness of the suspensions or any mitigating circumstance rather than resorting to namecalling? By doing so we will be an enlightened and informative group of Malaysian footies. Boleh?





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What is there to be respect of when the governing body is quite like a circus of clown themselves? I don't mind if they are suspending Rooney over his foul mouth. But at least, please be consistent.

One minute you're suspending a manager that make remarks over refs but at the other minute, you don't. I have pointed out why only Ferguson being suspended when there were Martinez, Wenger and even Redknapp made remarks over refs, fixtures and bla bla bla.

CityBluePrint is a joke because he never counter my arguments and kept on blabbing about United and serial offender shite. Rio wasn't a serial offender and missed that drug test. Resulted in 6/8 months ban. But why Toure, whom is founded used drugs wasn't given anything?

Balotelli on the other hand, is a serial offender. Look at how many cards he has picked up. The sent offs. Never bother to discuss about him?

This post has been edited by boxsystem: Apr 6 2011, 01:57 AM
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QUOTE(nshady @ Apr 5 2011, 01:15 PM)
CBP, you like that quote...people lazy wanna read..damn long.


Added on April 5, 2011, 1:15 pmCBP, you like that quote...people lazy wanna read..damn long.
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agree.


Added on April 7, 2011, 6:18 pm
QUOTE(boxsystem @ Apr 6 2011, 01:56 AM)
What is there to be respect of when the governing body is quite like a circus of clown themselves? I don't mind if they are suspending Rooney over his foul mouth. But at least, please be consistent.

One minute you're suspending a manager that make remarks over refs but at the other minute, you don't. I have pointed out why only Ferguson being suspended when there were Martinez, Wenger and even Redknapp made remarks over refs, fixtures and bla bla bla.

CityBluePrint is a joke because he never counter my arguments and kept on blabbing about United and serial offender shite. Rio wasn't a serial offender and missed that drug test. Resulted in 6/8 months ban. But why Toure, whom is founded used drugs wasn't given anything?

Balotelli on the other hand, is a serial offender. Look at how many cards he has picked up. The sent offs. Never bother to discuss about him?
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why got manu picture here de? haha

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post Apr 13 2011, 10:32 PM

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"I didn't realise what I'd done. It was just emotions, it was a release if you like of scoring the three goals to get us back in the game. As soon as I realised after the game I apologised as soon as I could. Of course it was wrong of me to do but I accept my punishment and you just have to move on."


By Rooney post CL interview


Kudos to Rooney for accepting what he did was wrong. There is no argument about that. He is MAN enough!
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This is significant to get the FA respect campaign on track. Only recalcitrant offenders cannot see that they are damaging or bringing the game into disrepute.

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