imagine if another unknown company design this..sure wont sell!...just because its swoosh logo is there its survive!

thanks for the advice earlier. but unfortunately last2 tak jadi beli coz no more S size...

Arsenal online store currently having sale with 50% off for all jerseys. tunggu apa lagi

Hmm...dunno..for some reason the red and black strips didn't appeal to me too much. I like the white kit, but its too difficult to maintain...from experience...white kits usually turn grey after a while...

Not sure if they turn grey... as I have a quite number of white kits (england jerseys and man united away shirts).. but the biggest problem with white jerseys are the risk of colour bleedings occurring onto them... since it's white.

To me, the red and black is ac milan. That is why it is called rossionerri... yes, they won the UCL wearing white most of the time... but I believe the red and black is the genuine colour of Milan. Can't really think of other clubs wearing black and red (except for sarawak in the past.. when they were with lotto). Black and red is ac milan.

Hmmm..yea i quite agree with the red and black, but i'll just like to be different this time out..

Dunno about yours but after extended washing, my germany kit lost its ...well...whiteness..lol , can't think of anyway to describe them..hahaha. Apart from colour bleeding, i think foods the biggest enemy to white kits as well...=.= an accidental splash of some curry onto it and its ruined...

It turned grey because your germany kit consists of white and black. Where does the grey come from? Maybe from the black..

Other worries with the white jerseys is the stains from normal wear and tear and also from other sources like food. Also be careful when washing them, do not mix them with other coloured clothes inside the washing machine.... ask aw13, I still remember his bad experience with his chelsea white third kit (hehehe...)

Another jerseyman review, taken from my-fjc forum. Enjoy:

Jerseyman's Review: 2010 England Tonal Victoria Blue Away Jersey

OK, the 2010 FIFA World Cup has gone by.. and England sucked badly during the tournament.

But what caught my eyes about england is not their performance.. but something called their tonal range.

Quoted from umbro's website and blog site:

"Using the official Away kits as inspiration, Umbro's tonal range uses the same design principles to create a number of items that compliment their origins. Made from the same high quality, technologically advanced materials, the tonal shirts also share the same tailored principles as the England Away shirt to offer a sharp, stylish look."

"It’s the England Away shirt, but not as you know it…. the shirt you can see above is actually part of Umbro’s new tonal range. Using the same design principles as the England Away kit, these pieces are made using the same techniques: the three distinct panels made from three different, complimentary materials, each one designed to cater for the needs of that specific part of the body."

Basically what the 2010 Umbro England Tonal Range is about is that it features an England Away shirt with some subtle differences to the Umbro logo and the England crest. Also featured in the tonal range are the drill top and jacket. There were 2 tonal colours used for the range, which is victoria blue and red. But to me, what caught my eyes was the England Tonal Victoria Blue Away Jersey:


Anyway I really like umbro's website.. there's these really cool music being played in the background... complimented by the simple and oldskool design.. I think nike's marketing department played some role in here...

Back to the jersey, when I look at it... I really feel like this blue jersey should be their third kit.................. I know umbro does have one third kit being kept in their closet and ready to be used if needed.... since their away is red and there are national teams wearing red and white (croatia, paraguay, etc)... But alas.. they never seem to ever use one. The last time england had a blue third kit was way back in 1992...

So this jersey is basically the same design and material as like the england 2010 away jersey. When this springs in my mind, one thing that puts me off...... the silly small tight sleeves. No thanks to the sleeves, wearing them makes my armpits feeling slightly painful after some time... Due to this, I had to order a bigger sized one (previously I ordered size 48, so for this tonal shirt, I ordered 50).

The victoria blue england tonal shirt at the moment is sold out at kitbag and not found at subside.. so I was lucky to find one at ebay.... it's brand new with tags some more... how lucky I am.

Here are the photos of my new 2010 England Tonal Victoria Blue Away Jersey:


You can compare the tonal FA crest with the actual one on the England 2010 Away Jersey:



To be continued..

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Jan 19 2011, 01:31 AM

Continued..

Something interesting on this Tonal jersey is the sleeves is not made using the same tight elastic material like the 2010 England Away jersey... but it seems to me that the material is almost the same like the front layer:


Also pleasing to know that the front and back layer of the tonal jersey is the same material, unlike the 2010 England Away Jersey. And I also think that the sleeves also uses the same material as the front and back layer as well:



So the 2010 England Tonal jersey is not 100% identical in terms of materials used compared to the 2010 England Away jersey...

More evidence is written on the washing tags inside the jersey.. we can compare the difference between the 2010 England Tonal's washing tags with the 2010 England Away's washing tags:



Here is the lowdown on the materials used to make each jersey:

2010 England Tonal Jersey:

1. Body - 79% Polyester 21% Cotton
2. Trim - 90% Polyester 10% Spandex
3. Trim - 100% Polyester

2010 England Away Jersey:

1. Body - 79% Polyester 21% Cotton
2. Trim - 100% Polyester
3. Trim - 82% Polyester 18% Elastane
4. Trim - 90% Polyester 10% Spandex

My guess is that the material used to make England's 2010 away jersey is 82% Polyester 18% Elastane.

Anyway the jersey is still made in Indonesia like England's away jersey and home jersey:

And also, something that I forgot to review is the England FA hologram security sticker on the price tag:



To be continued..

Continued..

But I won't be surprised if the fakers were able to imitate the hologram security sticker....


a. What Jerseyman Likes:
The victoria blue colour
The sleeves are not made using the same elastic material like the 2010 England Away Jersey

a. What Jerseyman Dislikes:
This jersey will not be used or worn by any England player.
The sleeves are still small... but then again, they are designed to look the same as the 2010 England Away Jersey....

Design: (No differences compared to England's away jersey.. But I really like the Tonal Concept)
Material: (Really love umbro's cotton like material.... old skool touch to it. If only nike would use it for making Man United jerseys....)
Cutting: (Really don't understand why the need to make small sleeves)
Comfortness: (Even though the sleeves are not made using the same elastic material, the small sleeves are not my favourite thing)
Overall:

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Jan 19 2011, 01:10 AM

I prefer the white

why the jesey will not be worn..???

long story mr jerseyman,
to cut short...i went to sport shop to iron heat jersey
i brought 3 jersey to iron heat (m'boro-RED, r.madrid-white & mu)
they did m'boro first, after that they did r.madrid..
thats why the RED color from m'boro transfer to r.madrid...
huhu

ask the shop to be responsible....
it's not your fault....

what is the differences between this 2 jc except the price..??

1. 10-11 Inter Milan Away Shirt

2. 10-11 Inter Milan Away Stadium Shirt

already ask for it
but they asked me back 2 use varnish/clorox etc....

aiyo...tough luck la bro...
a NO-NO for that shop....

Because the victoria blue tonal version of the 2010 England Away jersey is a part of a fashion collection called 'Tonal Range' released by umbro. They did this last time for the 2010 England Home Jersey... released it's tonal version in many different colours (red, black, green etc etc)...

Here's the England 2010 home jersey:

Here is the England 2010 home tonal jersey range:

Here's the England 2010 away jersey:

Here is the England 2010 away tonal jersey range:

So basically the tonal range is just a fashion collection... that is why it will not be worn by the players on the field.
This is normal when you iron press or iron onto white coloured jerseys... the colour transfer happens because of heat...

Sad to say, at most cases this CAN NEVER be fixed.. even using dylons... or bleach.. because the heat transfer is very strong and very hard to fix. You can try using thinner or spirit but I don't think it will still work.

The away stadium shirt is the drop down/kick off version of the away shirt.

It's a bit hard to ask them to be responsible. The mistake was you shouldn't apply the red shirt first... should have been white. This is a lesson to others as well...

Which shop is this?

withdrew my question. sorry.

This post has been edited by liez: Jan 19 2011, 11:14 AM

mm..lesson learnt (in hard way, huhu)
somewhere in perak...famous too
maybe the staff not experience enuff, including me..