No surprise la Sheep. They would say it is because Gerrard's sent off that caused all of that. If 11vs11, we wouldn't stand any chance. Or something or somewhere along the lines. It is always like that, we won because of ref lah, cheat lah. LOL at the mentality of some.

Take a good look in Citeh's thread. So much hatred towards the man that painted Manchester with red color. Conspiracy theories from left and right. Don't bother lah. We have class. Let them say whatever they want.

Yes even ref's help us.... all our 18 titles being helped by referee what... no referee no man utd... Don't you love our EPL referee? Always do us great favour...

Don't worry. It's never too late to learn new tricks.

It's just the way it is. People see what they wanna see.

morning/afternoon red devils. here are the highlights. enjoy

Look at The Pool thread.. They are debating like a pro regards to the rules in football ;p.. Which it shouldn't be a penalty or red card for Stevie

Salute them, they should be ESPN or starsport pundit

By the way, can't see any thing say this will be their year or it's time to move up something like tat?

Hmmm

"Moolan Moolan" oh that guy so clueless

Don't you realise most pundits are former liverpool players?
They just have the gene in them...

Yeah like someone mentioning here.... i really hate their holier than thou attitude....

This post has been edited by leongtat: Jan 10 2011, 11:53 AM

I hated the pundit on the espn hd broadcast. One was so obviously a 'pool fan while the other seemed neutral and just played along.

"So you don't think that was a red card?"

"Not it's not."

"Berbatov rode through the tackle. Stayed on his feet this time."

terrible commentating..pretty sure there was some complains on him after the match

Thanks for bringing this up.. i have been watching the non-hd version on astro. The pundit and the commentary were absolutely shite. These have been going on for a couple of weeks and im really glad someone noticed it.

This post has been edited by Zeten: Jan 10 2011, 12:28 PM

If I am a Liverpool supporter, Dalglish back to managing Liverpool is big no no to me. It could backfired.

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Added on January 10, 2011, 12:43 pmRegarding the sent off, I failed to comprehend how ppl can say it's not a red card! Look at the replay. Carrick got the ball first, and then came Gerrard with a two footed tackle. Look at the direction of the ball.



This post has been edited by O-haiyo: Jan 10 2011, 12:43 PM

like any managerial appointment, there are risks. Kenny's appointment is unique due to the times and seasons Liverpool are in. But like i said, maybe not best place to discuss here. Come over to Pool's thread and have a chat if you're interested. Cannot guarantee you 100% friendly lovely replies but i can guarantee you there are some knowledgeable and reasonable fellas there that will participate.

Haha. I dun think it's a good idea to post in Liverpool thread at the moment. I'll pass. But tell me, when Dalglish took over as a player-manager from Fagan, the club is doing well, no?

to me daglish is a stop go solution. i told my friend before the owners will use daglish to take care of the club till next season cos its pointless to bring in the new manager now at mid way and mid crisis and it will only cost a lot of money to resolve

by putting in daglish the owners can delay the massive rebuilding till next season where they already know what to expect eg. which position they end up with.

No point prolonging the discussion on both highly publicised incidents. A colleague of mine who is a manc thought it wasn't a penno but there you go, opinions are dime a dozen and we all have our own.

I chose to focus on this issue since you appear genuinely interested. You are right, the club was doing well when Dalglish was player-manager but it had been doing well since Shankly. Its why even though Paisley has the most trophies, the fans still embrace our past and revere Shankly. Having said that, Dalglish was responsible for the signings of John Barnes, Alan Hansen, Peter Beardsley, John Aldridge, Ronnie Whelan, Steve McMahon, Mark Lawrenson and Steve Nicol. When I became a fan, these were names we were synonymous with. He may have rode on the wave of success but it isn't as though he didn't build on the team. One ignorant mate of mine claimed he was dismissed by the club. Rubbish. He chose to leave after the events at Hillsborough and after having to attend numerous funerals along with other Liverpool greats.

At Blackburn, he got them promoted to the Premier league, was given some cash by Jack Walker and a couple of years later he won the Premiership.

He was less successful with Newcastle, finishing runners-up in his 1st season and only a dismal 13th the next. Few (with the exception of Newcastle fans) will remember however that in that same season, they beat Barcelona in the Champions League and got to the final of the FA Cup, losing to Arsenal. He also signed the likes of Nobbie Solano, Shay Given and Gary Speed.

His credentials as a manager however aren't why we're overjoyed at the moment. For me, its nostalgic. When I first became a fan, Dalglish was on the sidelines barking orders. Also, his appointment means that players like Gerrard and Carra who have become very vocal in the dressing room, will be put in their respective places because neither are bigger than King Kenny. Him returning and seeing the old Boot Room in action again will also boost morale amongst both the players and the fans and the "Holy Trinity" will once again come together. It is always being said that we live in the past but I think one needs to draw a distinction between living in it, and remembering it. We look upon our past with a lot of pride, and if the past can help us through trying times, and help the fans renew their passion, then whats wrong? No new manager will command the respect Kenny does and I think NESV saw all this. It was a strategic move on their behalf I believe, to revive the camaraderie within the city and to position themselves in the heart of Liverpool fans. We needed a quick fix if we are to salvage what we can from the season and like many other Liverpool fans, I think Kenny is the answer.

Since you don't want to take any stick back on our thread, I thought filling you in here was worth whatever stick I'll get.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: Jan 10 2011, 01:18 PM

Duke, you are always welcome in this thread... the reason why i don't post in Liverpool thread anymore cause whenever i post something whether is good or bad.... liverpool fans sure take it seriously...

the club was doing well but then, that also add into the pressure for Dalglish to do a good job. At that time, most fans were not expecting instant success. First time manager, and as player manager some more.

Imagine if Fergie were to step down right now and Giggs come in as player manager. I am sure the pressure to replicate the success will be there. But i am sure you guys will be very forgiving to him. That was exactly how we felt when Kenny stepped in. We thought he'll need time to learn and as long as he makes us competitive, we should be okay. NEver in our wildest dreams he brought us instant success.

The 2 other important thing about Kenny is he replaced aging Liverpool stars with fantastic players. And he introduced a very European like, passing football. You need to be a Liverpool fan to see all these for yourself.


So in short yes, the club was doing well but some players need to be replaced. Also the appointment was quite drastic as Fagan was doing very well. So, it was not an easy job, even back then.

Naah. Just imagine if Sir Alex stepped down and your board appoints Woy as his replacement

It could be

1. too expensive to get a new gaffer now. Maybe no one is available. Expect for Allardayce or O Neil. I think the owners have a foreigner in mind

2. maybe a gaffer has been identified but due to contract obligations/monetary issues, he can only come in next season

3 The owners believe maintaining Roy will cause a momentous slide to Championship football.

4. Someone like Kenny is available, and he offered himself.



Like i said, the tricky part is if 1 and 2 is true, and suddenly Kenny lead the club to an amazing Europa Cup run, play some pretty football and we finish top 6. (dont laugh, but as Duke pointed out, Kenny is capable of doing this). He is NOT Kevin Keegan when it comes to management.

Then what will the owners do? go ahead and bring in a new man despite Kenny's rising popularity?

Lets take this back to the LFC thread guys. The majority here won't quite appreciate the current discussion. And god knows we do need a lively, intelligent conversation back on our end, the thread's been going downhill for a while now.