for me, i think the initial price of phase 6 is quite high, wont be much margin for investment, for own stay it might be okay,
further more there have been a lot of apartments in setapak, tmn melati & wangsamaju area, dont forget sentul area also more convenience as have star lrt there also. so ppl got a lot of choice for rent.

i dont think the price of apartments in setapak will reach more than 500k. so it is about the peak already.
lrt stations play the biggest part, access to lrt can give at least 50k difference to the houses.

agree with what nakashima said, better go for almost complete projects, the price is same, the risk is less. no burden on monthly interest which will cost a few thousands more...

depend on your salary la, if house is 420k, monthly will be around 2100, times 2.5 got 5.2k,
so your salary must be around 5.2k at least, and without any long term commitment (cars, credit cards)

the only big chunk is for the initial 10%, thats about 40k plus 5 or 6k more.

im not good with finance, not my expertise, this is just my estimate.
correct me if im wrong

yes, im also interested to know the cost...

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Added on July 22, 2011, 5:53 pmwe did received a few calls from agents. but i dont mind with it, they just want to look for potential seller,
that helps some of us also.
just in case want to sell later,



This post has been edited by hazwanh: Jul 22 2011, 05:53 PM

i do hope the trend in future will be that also,
but something we have to bear in mind, even now, we have seen how goverment play their part by starting to build first houses for new working ppl, these are some of the controls to prevent from the price going to high.

what i think will happen in future is more of these initiative will be done by gov. they just wait until private dev go price up high (example 800k) then they build houses around 500k. and impose condition that this is for first house only, no second houses buyer. right now they just wait unit because their margin is low (dev sell 500k, they can only sell around 250k).
if im a first buyer, i would choose a cheaper one.

they own the land so they can give competitive price. they build up lrt, make new town, put 1 giant, 1 gsc/tgv, thats it. ppl will come.

one more thing gov can do is impose a law for house renting. let say a certain2 range of rate for a certain2 size of house. all ppl want to rent out their house need to registered and need to follow these rates. once they do that, no more high rental rate, it will all governed. renters will agree to that.

high house cost will make high rental fee. (400k house, sure the rental around 2k per month)
students wont come in, as long as they have a motorcycle, they can live anywhere within kl that offer cheaper rent. they dont need the fancy facilities. they just need place to stay temporary. they dont have income as well. their
allowance wont increase in years. the power of renting is low.

new employees, once the gov start building up houses with competitive
price, they will go there. further if these houses made only for first
buyer, no opportunity for business.

i dont know how much of us are willing to spend more than 400k for apartments now?
unless you are very rich, else you need joint loan.

in these few years we have already seen some control in place, what about next 5-6 years?

im no economist, so this is just a blind assumption. it may, and it may not happen.

yup, agree to that, salary is the main holdback,
kl is already pack, selangor also now developing more houses, colleges, offices,
i consider myself lucky to manage to buy a house rather than to consider it as strategic investment.

so assuming 250k, 10% is 25k, 25k / 365 = RM68.5 per day.

is it?

That means we cannot stay yet la, most probably for another month. They surely take some time to install the meters.
If they give the key, but we still cannot stay, can we still claim late delivery charges?
It looks like they just want to minimise the penalty on them by claiming that they have given the key out.
Unless when the key is ready, both meters already installed, then it is straight forward.

grill not for prevent ppl come in, but prevent ppl from jumping out. lol. maybe no need for sliding door, but balcony i think we need. some visitors have kids. they may not familiar with hazards living in apartment.
bathroom windows, dont think we need that...
but need one that dont block the view much, not a heavy duty one, just for prevention from falling out only.
so, can we get a lower price? i dunno...opinion?

not only for safety of our kids, safety of visitors/relatives kids as well.
especially for the balcony, windows i dont think kids will climb.
but can we get any type of grill that is thin one/ not blocking the view?
or is it standardized?
some apmt specified a certain2 standard grill type/ colour/ size, because it is a requirement by DBKL or something,
because it is related with the city's image/view something like that ( i dont really know about this, i just heard about it, thats all).
appreciate someone can explain.

main entrance, also sometime they put some requirement. it must be sliding / open to inside, but this one related with bomba requirement.

I went to expo last month in pwtc, and the price is quite cheaper than previous2 expo i went, i dont know why, so i think your finding is quite true.
I agree with you, hire them for simple / standard requirement, the rest i think i will go outside con.

no rushing as no electricity/water yet. cannot live also.

nakashimakazuma, thanks for the tips,
if im not mistaken next month got another expo in klcc convec, i think will shop there.
will check mcf within this month just for comparison.

how much tinting can we do? i saw in housing rules handbook there was some restriction on tinting
any percentage/ colour restriction?