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Discussion AFC ASIAN CUP QATAR 2011 Congratulation to, Japan the winner of AFC Asian Cup 2011

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TSnakata101
post Dec 30 2010, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(ReAcTiVo @ Dec 30 2010, 12:52 PM)
half from the 12 team  doh.gif
should put AFF champion next AFC Cup  biggrin.gif
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16 teams.....

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post Dec 30 2010, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(ReAcTiVo @ Dec 30 2010, 10:36 AM)
this idea hmm.gif
a good one  thumbup.gif
coz only asean got their cup AFF
not sure east asian or
china, japan, the koreans, hk got their region cup also hmm.gif
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East Asian Football Championship
South Asian Football Federation Cup
Gulf Cup of Nations (Middle East)

for EAFC participants, usually they won't call their European-based players to play in this tournament
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post Dec 30 2010, 08:57 PM

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You all know why Malaysia not even have chance to enter asia level ?

see this lolx



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post Dec 30 2010, 09:04 PM

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I'm going to watch Australia v Korea Republic match live biggrin.gif thats the only big name games in the group stage, for semis wait till i know who play who then only buy tickets.

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QUOTE(Syfq @ Dec 30 2010, 08:57 PM)
You all know why Malaysia not even have chance to enter asia level ?

see this lolx


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QUOTE(AKace @ Dec 30 2010, 10:06 PM)
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watch again smile.gif

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QUOTE(Syfq @ Dec 30 2010, 09:12 PM)
watch again smile.gif
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Welcome to Asia! AFC prefer a country that can bring benefit to them such as China, India, Australia and Middle East
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2015 will b our entry guaranteed laugh.gif rclxms.gif s 4 now i love the oriental asia 2 win back what is belong 2 them THE CUP...japan or south korea dont matter s long s one of them bcum champion enuf liao laugh.gif rclxms.gif i never big fan of arab win 4 sure haha
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post Dec 31 2010, 04:49 PM

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this competition is load of bullocks man.certain teams get free qualification, and this thing doesnt freaking represent the word ASIA.apa ingat asia=india japan, the china's and arab saja ka??how about the smaller ones??.

no wonder fifa never gave in demands to have more slots for asia in wc.

if its truly asia cup then should have a proper qualification systems some thing like euro or the wc.

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QUOTE(mhyug @ Dec 31 2010, 04:49 PM)
this competition is load of bullocks man.certain teams get free qualification, and this thing doesnt freaking represent the word ASIA.apa ingat asia=india japan, the china's and arab saja ka??how about the smaller ones??.

no wonder fifa never gave in demands to have more slots for asia in wc.

if its truly asia cup then should have a proper qualification systems some thing like euro or the wc.
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Please do more homework.... Please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFC_Challenge_Cup , anyway i know u r anti-asia cup. whistling.gif

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post Jan 1 2011, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(mhyug @ Jan 1 2011, 08:57 AM)
fyi what so great about being segregated as "developed associations" , "developing associations.", "emerging associations"

ever heard of equal opportunity??do your homework first then lets compare. doh.gif yes i am damn fcking anti of this useless certain "class" only tourney.

btw ever heard of a small nation called estonia??their 3rd in grp f and could be fighting their way with EUROPE'S best for a spot to be in the finals for the Henri Delaunay Trophy.now thats a fair way of qualifying for a tourney. whistling.gif
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The AFC Challenge Cup is exactly what you said bro: to give opportunity for smaller teams to participate in the big tournament. FYI the AFC challenge cup is mainly participated by the Emerging Countries and a few of the Developing Countries. So each Asia Cup will have at least 2 of these countries participate, since Asia Cup is every 4 years and the AFC Challenge Cup is every 2 years. Those that didn't win the challenge cup, can still qualify via the asian cup qualifiers, like what u said about Estonia (AFC Asian Cup is not the only way for small countries to qualify, it is an easier alternatives). Chances are, it's easier to qualify if you play against countries of the same standard than to fight Asian giants. Of course if you think you can qualify via qualifiers like the Estonia example, then feel free to try.

It's a bit similar to the concept of qualifying for Europa Cup. For example, if you wanna play in Europe u gotta finish top 7 in the English league right? Another ALTERNATIVE is to win the league cup or FA Cup. Not really the same thing la, but my point here is these tournaments are "alternatives".

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QUOTE(Syfq @ Dec 30 2010, 08:57 PM)
You all know why Malaysia not even have chance to enter asia level ?

see this lolx


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Safiq not so dumb already now, commentator damn dumb btw.

Against China that time maybe players not refreshed enough after Malaysia Cup. Before AFF got more time to rest since left the Asian games early.
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discussing about the qualification..

1. qualify via challenge cup? - dont agree, shud b only 1 route, via asian cup qualifiers.. so then who r there r there on merit.. on this 2011 occasion, north korea - powerful nation - qualified via challenge cup?! wtf..

2. bye? host n defending champion enuff oredi.. 2nd & 3rd oso got bye ehh? haiyo...
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QUOTE(do_re_mi @ Jan 1 2011, 02:04 PM)
discussing about the qualification..

1. qualify via challenge cup? - dont agree, shud b only 1 route, via asian cup qualifiers.. so then who r there r there on merit.. on this 2011 occasion, north korea - powerful nation - qualified via challenge cup?! wtf..

2. bye? host n defending champion enuff oredi.. 2nd & 3rd oso got bye ehh? haiyo...
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exactly my pt.so be it if there is 1 2 3 or 100 major afc tourneys they should have proper qualy format.and up to date to man kind there is only one type wch is grp stage qualy.

its either that or we segregate asia in parts and move on from there.whats so fun about when the very same nations is going to be there come a few years even tho this tourney is so called for "new teams la", emerging la etc etc..
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i agree with finals spot given through AFC Challenge Cup.

That one or two spot will do much more to the development of football in India or Krgystan than to already developed country like Saudi arabia or China..

they will become a stimulus, a reason for them to get better .....

the same can also be said to Champions qualifying route in UEFA Champions League... its about distributing the potential and benefit on wider scope..
whatever painful-minor-improvement these minnows country achive will all count for nothing if the drawn with Japan and Korea in the first round of asia Cup qualifying... let them fight among their peers and give a very meaningful reward to those who succeed... the sense of achivement will spur further developement..

if not, only the good will get better, while the bad will countinue on their spiral downward...

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aressandro10, distributing - thats d important word
dont get me wrong, i agree with d idea.. but d way of d implementation is another matter..

giv d chance 2 d so called emerging nations.. im fine wit it
but at d same time, its a bit unfair 2 d so called developing nations (including ours).. looks like philipines hav better chance 2 b in asian cup rather than malaysia..

i realize afc always like 2 do grouping.. dont know y
imho, ranking way much better than grouping..
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QUOTE(do_re_mi @ Jan 2 2011, 12:08 AM)
aressandro10, distributing - thats d important word
dont get me wrong, i agree with d idea.. but d way of d implementation is another matter..

giv d chance 2 d so called emerging nations.. im fine wit it
but at d same time, its a bit unfair 2 d so called developing nations (including ours).. looks like philipines hav better chance 2 b in asian cup rather than malaysia..

i realize afc always like 2 do grouping.. dont know y
imho, ranking way much better than grouping..
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compare to the others, i think nations like ours has the ability to stand on our own feet. Our problem is, instead of standing, we just only like to sit on our couch and watch EPL on tv all this while smile.gif

while for countries like Philipine or India, they really need alot to spur any sort of interest even among their countryman. A spot the in Asia Cup can just do that.

AFC role, for me is more challenging than UEFA's role. It would be fanstactic if the whole of Asia can compete on merit to qualify. but Asia is soo vast and the gap between the good and the not are too wide. Its AFC's responsibility to inject some 'will' in those countries that otherwise, would just give up.

i am very impressed with AFC Challenge Cup winner India during the Asia Games. They have benefited a lot from that tournament.

world ranking only give indication of national team performance while the AFC Classification covers the state of football in the country as a whole. If you read about it, its pretty comprehensive. smile.gif

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post Jan 2 2011, 09:41 AM

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Discussion aside, I was checking in to Qatar airways earlier and some of the Malaysian officials contingent to the Asian Cup is also same flight. Among them is world cup referee subkhiddin salleh. Will try to take pics later when in the departure hall smile.gif
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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Jan 2 2011, 04:41 AM)
Discussion aside, I was checking in to Qatar airways earlier and some of the Malaysian officials contingent to the Asian Cup is also same flight. Among them is world cup referee subkhiddin salleh. Will try to take pics later when in the departure hall smile.gif
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some of them already here since 2 weeks ago and staying at damn good hotel smile.gif

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post Jan 2 2011, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Jan 2 2011, 09:41 AM)
Discussion aside, I was checking in to Qatar airways earlier and some of the Malaysian officials contingent to the Asian Cup is also same flight. Among them is world cup referee subkhiddin salleh. Will try to take pics later when in the departure hall smile.gif
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hooo your going sana kah??fuuu rich man biggrin.gif

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