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fisherman10
post Dec 28 2010, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 28 2010, 02:12 PM)
Fluoride or something, no special name. Actually Nikon Nano coat not meant for lens, was used in their other technology before this. Someone shared the video before, pretty informative on how did the Nanocoat came to lens.
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u got the link for the vid? wanna see about it.
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post Dec 28 2010, 05:06 PM

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oh noo...bad sign bad sign.

tested my new d7000 just now. tried some fast shutter shots. looks like it's jamming.

anything above 1/800, when i press the button, i hear the clark then the top lcd blinks Err and i get a black image. i press shutter button again, i hear clark and then it's ready for another shot. press again, same thing, hear sound, Err and black image.

what could be the problem. shutter unit problem or wad?
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post Dec 28 2010, 05:12 PM

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no it's definitely a problem. i tried it outside. iso 6400.

on the times it manage to release successfully, i get an underexposed image, which is normal.

the times it shows ERR, i get a black image.


Added on December 28, 2010, 5:13 pm
QUOTE(elainor @ Dec 28 2010, 05:09 PM)
1/800?? i think u shot it in dark situation... so the pics will be dark... whats ur aperture?? iso??


Added on December 28, 2010, 5:10 pmhey guys 50mm f/1.4g using which type of filter??67mm??
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post Dec 28 2010, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(elainor @ Dec 28 2010, 05:15 PM)
u mean the shutter got stuck when shot in high SS?

should be a quick strike rite? wait let me check mine hehe
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yeah test it out. try continuous high, then low and also single. doesnt happen everytime.try above 1/800 all the way to 1/8000. see if it shows Err
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post Dec 28 2010, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(elainor @ Dec 28 2010, 05:21 PM)
probably is the problem is caused by ur mc... may i know what class is it?? err shows on the display??
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definitely not memory card. Err shows in the top lcd. i take out the lens n put to M mode also like that. get Err at random times but very frequently.
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post Dec 28 2010, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 28 2010, 05:49 PM)
Hmm, might be an issue with your unit. My D700 does 1/8000 without issues. I've burst 8fps with it before too at 1/8000s.
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yeah....happens randomly during burst 6fps and also during single shots. happens at lower shutter speed too. weird thing is, the first few days i was using it with no problem. then kept it in the bag for 2 days, then today saw someone posted this http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=...es=5#post-51600

went to test my cam and prob happens.

1) which centre should i go...PKNS or berjaya times square?

2)of course i would like good service for my cam, fast and efficient.

3)how's the procedure like. how long would i need to leave my cam there?


Added on December 28, 2010, 5:55 pm
QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Dec 28 2010, 05:51 PM)
does the dark picture has effect on shutter jam?
according to
http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/nikon_...g_n15/page2.asp
the filter size is 58mm
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dark could be because the shutter doesnt open. by dark i mean it is actually totally black. nothing at all. not the usual underexposed dark u get when your shutter speed is too fast for ambient light.

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post Dec 28 2010, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Dec 28 2010, 05:59 PM)
I don't know about that.
but there is one time I did burst mode w/ my body *just for testing* (in this case the lens cap is closed).
it worked fine.  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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yeah well, maybe your unit is ok.

mine when i burst, i just hold the button, sometimes it'll stop after a few and show Err. sometimes it'll stop at the first or 2nd shot.

and when i check the playback....all the shots that i heard click properly, the image shows but the last image just before it stop and show Err is black. totally black.
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post Dec 28 2010, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(razuryza @ Dec 28 2010, 06:07 PM)
go straight to pkns pj la... u send to BTS also, sometimes they send to PJ also...

if under warranty and the parts is ready(if should to replace anything) the fastest i get back my stuff is the next day.. believe it or not... laugh.gif
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thanks. so i need to bring my warranty card right? do i need the receipt?

will the camera be affected in other areas after sending to them? i was worried like after they open up everything and put it back together, maybe the glue for the rubbers or the screws might not be as good as new. is that possible?
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post Dec 28 2010, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Dec 28 2010, 06:43 PM)
i just tried letting go two roughly 10-shot bursts at 6fps 1/800s on my d7000.
no problems here.
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try higher. try 1/8000. at first i tried it had once or twice stuck. then i remount the lens, still once or twice. then i mange to really burst kaw kaw at 6fps with no problem for a while....then after that, now it's frequently like that. even for single shot or continuous low at 3fps.

see this - http://nikonrumors.com/forum/topic.php?id=3044

try pointing at something bright and see whether it open and closes in time.
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post Dec 28 2010, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Dec 28 2010, 06:59 PM)
that one is not bursting at 1/8000, just single shots.
u said urs happens at 1/800 bursts.
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doh.gif okokok lemme explain.

it happens frequently and randomly. whether it's burst at 6fps, burst at 3fps or single shot. it gives me the Err intermittently at various shutter speeds once the err comes out, i off it, take out the lens, i can see that the mirror is flipped up and the shutter is covering the sensor. i then have to on back, press the shutter again then only the mirror will drop. but before i take out the lens, i can see the image review that it's all black. sad.gif

mine doesnt have the black line at the top or bottom like the link i posted. but u read what the TS said, he also had intermittent Err probs with the mirror/shutter jamming.


Added on December 28, 2010, 7:06 pmthe funny thing is, i used the cam quite a lot, more than 1k shots as it went to the 2nd folder on my memory card since i got it. nothing happened, went to klcc, icity, church event and all no prob.

until just now, decided to test fast shutter speed. after 2 shots, gave me Err. and then now it keeps on happening quite frequently. i would say once every 3 shots on average.

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post Dec 28 2010, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Dec 28 2010, 07:09 PM)
ok when the time comes that i need 1/8000s is when i will try it tongue.gif
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doing a stress test now to find out problems earlier might be better than dying when u need it or when your warranty is out


QUOTE(Andy214 @ Dec 28 2010, 07:48 PM)
What lens are you using?
There is a warning about using switching the AF <-> M mode for certain type of lens.
Can also try read on the troubleshooting part on the user manual and see if there's any information.
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i'm using nikon 18-200mm VR1. happens when autofocus is enabled and almost in manual focus. happens in all modes, AF-C, AF-S, AF-A.

heck....even when there's no lens mounted and no memory card, it still gives the Err.
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post Dec 29 2010, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(bagata @ Dec 29 2010, 12:20 AM)
urm, about ggs for D7000, according to this thread

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1693194

he is selling... anyone?
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yeap..i know. saw his thread yesterday.
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post Dec 29 2010, 02:21 AM

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QUOTE(g_pentium @ Dec 29 2010, 02:03 AM)
http://nikonrumors.com/2010/12/21/nikon-d7...t.aspx#comments

anyone here update their d7000 firmware?
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nope not yet. gotta send my unit back for warranty and see how first.
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post Dec 29 2010, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(g_pentium @ Dec 29 2010, 02:38 AM)
why warranty???care to share?
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well, scroll up and back one or 2 pages. then try testing with your unit also.
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QUOTE(g_pentium @ Dec 29 2010, 02:52 AM)
yeah ive tried just now,in m mode with 8000 and aperture of 5.6
no err,but i got no image,black
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maybe that's coz it's just wayyy too underexposed.


QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 29 2010, 08:41 AM)
Indoor? If indoor then it is normal, it is 1/8000 and f/5.6

Even at outdoor with f/1.4 and 1/8000 I can just get nice exposure on a sunny day.
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underexposed or decent exposure is not the problem here. at iso6400, i can still see a very dim image on the times it work. on the ones that show Err. the image is black. black as in "lens cap on" black.

QUOTE(adriancs @ Dec 29 2010, 10:27 AM)
And you expected to get what image exactly, might I ask? doh.gif

Please stop misusing your camera and then think its faulty...

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LOL...i can understand why you're saying that. though this is my first dslr for a week, I've been using dslrs for a long time.

my problem now is, sometimes the mirror/shutter does not complete the whole cycle. let's not talk about underexposed or not. what i'm getting is black. total black like as if u had the lens cap on.

this Err problem happens intermittently but quite frequently. on the times it snaps correctly, I get an underexposed image or a normal image. on the times it fails (Err), i get a "lens cap on" black image.

now it doesnt just happen at 1/8000, it randomly happens at lower shutter speeds like 1/60, 1/40. ISO is at auto, so on the times it work, i get a normal image, on times it fail, i get black image but exif still shows the actual shutter speed i set.

when top LCD shows Err. i switch it off, took out the lens, saw the mirror was up and the shutter was covering the sensor. put it back, switched it on, press the shutter button again, and i can hear the mirror flip down. now I can continue snapping.

sorry if this is real long but i cant really think of a better way to explain this as I dont have a video of it. notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Dec 29 2010, 02:14 PM)
^ Send back for warranty. It sounds like you've a bad copy.
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yeap...looks like I'm set for it. does this looks like a mechanical prob with the mirror/shutter, electronic problems or could it be something else?
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QUOTE(adriancs @ Dec 29 2010, 03:45 PM)
Did you by any chance set the mirror lockup, mirror up for cleaning, or shutter delay function, either accidentally or otherwise? Or maybe assign a custom button function to these settings and accidentally pressed it?

If not... then it would appear to be a mechanical issue. You can try taking pics with the lens off body and have a visual look to see if and when it happens, what actually happens.
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definitely not one of those setting. on the d7000, there's a separate dial to choose single, continuous low, continuous high, quiet, remote, mirror lockup.
tried the single, CL and CH. all same prob. at continuous, it'll go cluck cluck cluck cluck then suddenly halfway cluck then gives me Err.

without the lens, in M mode. i can see the mirror move up down, up down, up down and all of a sudden stays up and everything stops and it gives Err. i then have to release and press shutter button once again, then the mirror will drop down.

then i can press again to continue taking other shots.


Added on December 29, 2010, 3:49 pm
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Dec 29 2010, 03:47 PM)
See Page 306 of the User Manual.

Indicator: Err (blinks)
Problem: Camera malfunction
Solution: Release Shutter. If problem persists or appear frequently, consult Nikon-autorized service representatives.

When you send to Nikon, show them this in the User manual to help explain your case.
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yeap...saw that in the manual already. gonna go visit them later.

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QUOTE(blowsh @ Dec 29 2010, 03:46 PM)
my fren's D90 also have the ERR problem. tis happens when she was taking pictures n din notice the long shutter exposure and when she hit the shutter button, it stays open for a short period n she turn the cam power off. since then, it give ERR when she took pictures at 18mm. i try to take out the lens and put it back, so far i haven't hear anyhthing from her. could this "mirror lockup during exposure" cause the cam to hit ERR?
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nope. definitely not mirror lockup. see my other replies.

tried without lens, without memory card. still same.


Added on December 29, 2010, 3:51 pm
QUOTE(adriancs @ Dec 29 2010, 03:49 PM)
^^

Looks like its a real problem. I guess its SC for you... I'm so sorry about your camera.
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it's only a week old. took more than 1k shots since i got it. but it was indoor event so no fast shutter. ytd, tried 1/8000 and then started like that already. now lower, medium shutter speed also like that. sad.gif

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QUOTE(blowsh @ Dec 29 2010, 03:56 PM)
what other reason for this? not familiar with d90  blush.gif 
lens? shutter? or straight to SC?  brows.gif
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for now, I'll guess its an internal problem. SC it is!
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when it's so close, it'll go out of focus as you breath in n out.

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