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http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/08/news_6127162.html

Gwahahaha!

The new revolution is coming!

WITH NEW TRICKS! Snow field!
and uh, some other kewl craps
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post Jun 20 2005, 11:37 PM

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Cool Craps lol
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You can find some screens courtesy of Boomtown
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post Jun 22 2005, 07:28 PM

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on the cover is Zico and Shunsuke Nakamura

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post Jun 22 2005, 07:40 PM

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- New Stadiums : "Mestalla - FC Valencia" & "Riazor - Deportivo la Corugna".
- Kits of season 05/06 for Liga and Eredivisie.
- Real font (numbers & names) for licensed teams
- New kits for unlicensed teams
- Shirt outside the short
- new ball : Finale Orange
- different colour Wristbands (Ronaldinho pict)
- Finger tape (Rooney pict)
- Cycling under shorts (Cannavaro pict)
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post Jun 22 2005, 07:43 PM

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Heh, the 3rd time Zico on the cover huh laugh.gif

oh well, he's famous in Japanese football
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post Jun 22 2005, 08:05 PM

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when will the PC edition lauch?
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post Jun 22 2005, 08:15 PM

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woohoo ... gotta clean my ps2 of da dust n play tis game .. =)
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post Jun 23 2005, 09:46 AM

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omg... cant wait for august to come.. but first release all Jap version. Need to wait for a month or 2 for the translation patch.. sad.gif
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post Jun 25 2005, 11:53 AM

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wow WE9 is coming.. that's great man..
this game beats FIFA all the time.. thumbup.gif
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post Jun 27 2005, 09:02 PM

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another news update on the game

Play Asia (affiliate link) are listing Winning Eleven 9 for PlayStation 2 with a release date of 4th August 2005.
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post Jul 1 2005, 11:18 PM

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can't wait to test it....waaa....really in term of realism...WE the best compare to FIFA...yeay..biggrin.gif
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post Jul 8 2005, 01:34 PM

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Download WE9 teaser video (12.5MB file) from Konami here:

http://s31.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=06G5QJH...NJ26M4PGKTY4526

Includes a glimpse of dragon's breath on snow pitch + an overview of the new features.
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post Jul 8 2005, 01:36 PM

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winning eleven 8

most of the stadiums r unknown
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post Jul 11 2005, 10:08 PM

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WE 9?! woohoo!! WE series has de best footie games ever, beats the FIFA series hands down notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Jul 11 2005, 10:16 PM

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may i know the graphic card requirement for this game high or not?
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post Jul 13 2005, 06:14 PM

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i think at least 6600 can do the job
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post Jul 21 2005, 01:50 AM

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I hope they do fix the physics of the game, and refreeing and AI as well instead of adding new tricks.


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post Jul 21 2005, 02:00 AM

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is real madrid home stadium avaiable in WE8 o not?
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QUOTE("hazremi")
i think at least 6600 can do the job

Why 'at least'??? radeon 9600 pro ok what...
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post Jul 24 2005, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(xooper @ Jul 21 2005, 02:00 AM)
is real madrid home stadium avaiable in WE8 o not?
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the Santiago Bernabeu?
possibly..
but if its not, you can always download the Olè Patch (which will come out weeks after the game is released) and apply it on the game biggrin.gif

which I will do when the game comes out..

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hurm...good looking game...but the game style if different with fifa..what an option here drool.gif

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QUOTE(xooper @ Jul 21 2005, 02:00 AM)
is real madrid home stadium avaiable in WE8 o not?
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santiago bernebau...

WE8=nope

WE9=should be there
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post Jul 27 2005, 06:52 PM

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NEWS FLASH!

http://media.pc.gamespy.com/media/755/7556...mg_2900194.html

what do you see in that pic?

YES! ARSENAL'S LATEST HOME KIT!

50% says that EPL kits will be licensed!!!
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post Jul 29 2005, 07:33 PM

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Few more days to go!

Can't wait, but thankfully with the new patch from reefur (for the PS2 version of the game), I can bear the wait. smile.gif
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post Aug 4 2005, 10:56 AM

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Is it out already??
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post Aug 4 2005, 11:09 AM

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early review says slowdown is gone drool.gif
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post Aug 4 2005, 11:21 AM

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thats great
i hate the slowdown whenever there is a lot of player inside the penalty box

anyway will check it out today at my area gameshops
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post Aug 4 2005, 11:22 AM

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here's the full PES5 licensed team list from PSM2
L = Licensed
N = NO Licensed

UK TEAMS (X 20)
Arsenal L
Chelsea L
Aston Villa N
W.Brom N
Everton N
C.Palace N
Newcastle N
Spurs N
Charlton N
Saints N
Norwich N
Birmingham N
Blackburn N
Fulham N
Portsmouth N
Liverpool N
M'boro N
Man U N
Man C N
Bolton N
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SERIE A (X20) ALL Licence
AC Milan L
Roma L
...

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Primera Liga (x20) ALL Licence
Real Madrid L
Valencia L
Barcelona L
...

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Eredivise (X18) ALL Licence
Ajax L
AZ L
PSV L
...

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Bondesliga (X18) ALL Licence
Bayern Munich L
Stuttgart L
FC Schalke 04 L
...
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INTERNATIONAL : (X57)
ENGLAND L
BRAZIL L
WALES L
SCOTLAND L
N IRELAND L
REP OF IRELAND L
FRANCE L
SPAIN L
ITALY L
HOLLAND L
JAPAN L
PORTUGAL L
CZECH REP L
ARGENTINA L
S. KOREA L
MEXICO L
NIGERIA L
CAMEROON L
THE REST 39 ARE N
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OTHER (X22)
Celtic L
Rangers L
Galatasary L
Porto L
Dynamo Kiev L
THE REST 17 ARE N
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Summary
international 57
england 20
german 18
french 20
serie a 20
eredivisie 18
spain 18
other league 22
TOTAL = 195
excluding classic teams
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QUOTE(bug_vengeance @ Aug 4 2005, 11:21 AM)
thats great
i hate the slowdown whenever there is a lot of player inside the penalty box

anyway will check it out today at my area gameshops
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Yes, from what I know slowdown has been fixed in WE9, BUT at the expense of crowds. IF you are using 'WIDE' cam, you cannot see crowds (empty stadium)during match (except during GK,FK,CK.Although you can still hear them. IF you use other cams, its ok.


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i laied a hand on the latest game
but there's slowdown in the entrance.. O_o

overall, THE GAME, IS MARVELOUS!!1!

Arsenal and Chelsea's kits are licenced, and looks TERRFICK!
and at last, I have seen Ronaldinho's flip-flap! (although its implemented in WE8:LE)

now i'm playing Eng vs Fra..
XD player movements are WAY realistic now..
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Oooooi,
The game's already on sale is it? Wow, that's fast. Must check out my friendly neighbourhood game shop then...

Cant be bothered to wait for the translation patch. Gotta get it now.

Cheers mates.
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well, the shops aren't selling it yet
i got it through another source XD

but shops might be available this sunday I guess
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yeah
cd WE9 sudah ada di pasaran
dapatkan di kedai berhampiran anda
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i bought already liao
but havent play yet
after this la
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post Aug 5 2005, 12:34 AM

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wow im waiting for we9...hehe..now released
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I bought already at local store hehehehe...english patch also out already, now playing with 90% english translated as well as the player's name

this game is AWESOMEEEE>>!!!!
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the english patch also out already ??
gosh, the shop i bought yesterday dont have it
where can i get the english patch version ?
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QUOTE(bug_vengeance @ Aug 5 2005, 09:28 AM)
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the english patch also out already ??
gosh, the shop i bought yesterday dont have it
where can i get the english patch version ?
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you have to download it and then burn to dvd. go to evo-web forum there you will find everything u need. if you have a dvd burner everthing settle la... thumbup.gif
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post Aug 5 2005, 11:24 AM

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WE9 Translation sudah ada... damm fast... I just patched my WE8LE last week shakehead.gif *haven't really started playing also doh.gif*
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Fernando has released his WE9 translation patch v1.0 but still has some mistakes and not 100% complete. Still very good nonetheless.

For players' name in English, get either the foss or scorpio option file. Also not 100% complete yet. 05/06 transfers not updated 100%, but u can do it yourself if can't wait.

If can wait, wait a couple more days and things should mature by then.

Full patch may take longer due to new encryption, new kits selection mode, etc.

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thanx knickerboxers n terranova smile.gif

i tot the shops already selling the patch version
i dont have a dvd-writer,seems like i have to wait a little longer
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game so hard to control man..
struggling to score a goal because controls too realistic laugh.gif

free kick oso, WOW! almost score a goal!
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Yeap, have to get used to the control 1st. Now its harder to dribble an opponent, however now can score from long distance shot thus making it more realistic. Tried to score long distance using Stankovic and the ball curves like hell the goalkeeper cannot do anything, hit the post though. Damn cant wait to xplore this game!

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WE9 come out liao??
Oh no...i got to go to get it!!!
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alamak..i dont have dvd writer to burn the patch..btw i like the way iker cassilas control the ball ( in penalty area..) using chest..perghhh..!
now playing japan goes to world cup 2006 campaign..all in japanese..aisey,,!

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Is it just me, or does it say "Winning Elven Eight" at the intro? The DVD does have Zico/Nakamura on the front, but the inside of the game definitely feels like a patch rather than an all new WE.
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QUOTE(biatch0 @ Aug 5 2005, 03:31 PM)
Is it just me, or does it say "Winning Elven Eight" at the intro? The DVD does have Zico/Nakamura on the front, but the inside of the game definitely feels like a patch rather than an all new WE.
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i think u got the we8 patched one..if want to make sure, see at the main menu there should be another mode available..nippon challenge or something
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^@&*#^!@&*#^!@

Don't buy from the shop just outside Compuzone... just wasted a trip down to KL for that!!! Going to go to MidValley in awhile to see if they have...

Anywhere with confirmed 100% WE9? I might skip MidValley and go there if I can be sure...
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WE9 already out ?_? blink.gif

DAMN IT.... i go & grab 1 after work vmad.gif
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its now more realistic in term of passing too
no more 'unlogic' thru ball like before
i feel like WE9 game tempo is a bit slow becos of this 'realistic' thingy

just now i scored a beautiful goal by ibrahimovic
crossed the ball n camoranesi head down to ibra,n then he flip the ball n give a powerful first timer thumbup.gif
juve 1 - 0 ajax
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shite !! i love this game laugh.gif

QUOTE(biatch0 @ Aug 5 2005, 04:21 PM)
Anywhere with confirmed 100% WE9? I might skip MidValley and go there if I can be sure...
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i bought mine at sgwang smile.gif

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Someone show me the cover/disc... My cover has a bunch of photos of Real Madrid players on the front and in game characters of Owen and another 2 players. Upload a pic later if I've got nothing better to do...
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mine looks exactly like this
i bought it at the shop on G floor,located at the back,near parkson entrance

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i downloaded mine XD

having tons of time with it..

gonna wait sunday then i'll start patching up my WE9
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QUOTE(knickerboxers @ Aug 5 2005, 09:43 AM)
you have to download it and then burn to dvd. go to evo-web forum there you will find everything u need. if you have a dvd burner everthing settle la... thumbup.gif
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dude, teach me how tooo patch the fileee.... thanks thumbup.gif
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Although needless to say, but just in case some people may overlook this point, you don't need a DVD burner to patch the game if you're playing with a hard disk on the PS2.

Just patch the game using ppf-o-matic and transfer patched game over to hard disk via winhiip or hdl_dump.

p/s : fernando has an updated translation patch now. Download v2 here:

http://www.vinyloargentina.com/Fernando_WE9_English_v2.zip

Plucked from evo-web:
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Fernando's WE9 English Patch v2 (5/Aug/05) ONLY FOR DVD
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Whats new:

- 99% English Players names in every team (there's only left some asian players not translated that could be in other team) Players can have weird names thanks to konami, not me...but at least you can read it
- Club names.
- Nippon challenge lacks some text but its highly playable
- lotsa bugs ouuuuuuuuuuut!!!

ToDo:
- Finish Club names, just a few...sorry guys no time today.
- translated the smaaaaal rest, nothing to worry about.

Done
- All translated including Formation.
Master League
Edit Mode
Match Mode
Training
Cup Mode
League Mode
Option
- National Teams names Translated
- Stadiums translated but could be wrong.
- Included Text in TXS.


PLEASE DELETE YOUR OPTION FILES BEFORE USE!

I do all this things for fun. Just Enjoy!
Thank you all for your support! Specially to Reefur and Elite!

Thanks
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DO NOT MAKE PROFIT OUT OF THIS!!! ITS FOR ALL THE FANS AROUND THE WORLD!

YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE A WE FREAK SO WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR!? GO BUY THE
ORIGINAL GAME AND SUPPORT KONAMI!!!!!!!!

http://www.vinyloargentina.com/Fernando_WE9_English_v2.zip

And yes..... There's is ENGLISH PLAYERS AND TEAMS!

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Well, I've got WE9 (proper) now... As expected, graphical improvement is close to zero. I am suffering right now trying to get used to the new feel (same as every time a new WE comes out); everything definitely feels slower than before, ball control "appears" to be harder, etc.

Slower, harder to control might be because I just started a new master league team and the team is full of the usual crap players ala Iouga, Miranda, Valeny, Ivarov, etc. Hopefully I can get through the season with enough cash not to get sacked, then I can stack up my team a little.

In the mean time, I have no idea how to patch the game with Fernando's patch. I have the DVD et al but how the heck do I transfer it to my HDD to patch??? Any sites with guides available?
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hey guys,i just got a copy from sungai wang,but somehow it can't load in my ps2

my ps2 version is 5xxxx not quit sure bout the actual number though.

any1 has the same problem as me??

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QUOTE(biatch0 @ Aug 5 2005, 10:55 PM)
Well, I've got WE9 (proper) now... As expected, graphical improvement is close to zero. I am suffering right now trying to get used to the new feel (same as every time a new WE comes out); everything definitely feels slower than before, ball control "appears" to be harder, etc.

Slower, harder to control might be because I just started a new master league team and the team is full of the usual crap players ala Iouga, Miranda, Valeny, Ivarov, etc. Hopefully I can get through the season with enough cash not to get sacked, then I can stack up my team a little.

In the mean time, I have no idea how to patch the game with Fernando's patch. I have the DVD et al but how the heck do I transfer it to my HDD to patch??? Any sites with guides available?
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woot, the whole thing has changed, even the free kick
no more R2 and Square (touch and shoot)

and the dribbling shocking.gif crazy, can't even dribble at all..

do you have a DVD burner? if you have it, its kinda easy
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..and u can see ref stop the match n hold ball..when player injured..
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(1) DVD decrypter -> ISO read
(2) ppf-o-matic -> patch
(3) ISO write
(4) PLEASE INSERT A PLAYSTATION 2 FORMAT DISC!
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I bought a WE9 PS2 DVD from Sungai Wang with Chealsea team on cover...

SInce this is my 1st time buying WE series(Befoer this I play FIFA series),anyone can teach me how to patch to english commentator?Cause mine 1 is japanese and I don understand it..

THanks all the masters here...
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...juz bought we9...but how come i think tat the graphic are quite blur.....i dunno is the tv problem...or.......
anyway the realistic of the game does increase..
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Guide for patching to english version (Fernando's WE9 Patch V2).

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http://forum.pesinsight.com/showthread.php?t=26018
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laugh.gif

you know, if the commentators are foreign, it's even better than those English commentators...

when we score a goal, he says, "Oh! It's a goal!"
if you score a goal with the Spanish commentator, "ENGOLAS, GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!"
if you score a goal with the Japanese commentator, "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!"

now, thats why I love Winning Eleven more than PES biggrin.gif
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For all those that can't patch, here's a quick way to get 90% English player names.

Get a copy of WE8LE 'patched'. Many on sale now. (i.e Ole, devil Mix)

In WE9 go to options, data manager. Import your WE8LE option file.
Viola you have most of your player names in English.

Menu is not such a big deal as it can figured out by trial and error.

Good luck.
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Does any one feel the speed & passing of this new version to FIFA-ish?

Still sceptical bout '9 so far. Although i've not put in the required hours yet. (WE series usually grows on you).

Early impressions after getting it on Friday.

Great 'new' animations and touches.
Passes seem to fast (don't know if this is a good thing)
Shooting - Shot meter fills v.quickly. Hve to re-learn the soft touch as per WE6 again.
Easier from long range, more misses from closer.
Players off the ball movement generally better, but also sometimes move too much to correct if you delay your pass.

Physical game is better, more fouls but you have to re-learn how to pressure & tackle.
Jostling for position is better now, especially when some forwards can hold of defenders while their back is to goal.
Player weight and physical contact is good.

Heading is much easier (i don't like this, as I fels WE8:LE was perfect).
Should have kept the heading and implemented the better movement.
Some shots feel too scripted. Sometimes you pull of volleys from corners when you don't even plan too.

Free kicks are better, more power and chances of going in. However the controls have been changed and I don't think this is better than prev layout. Now have to use L1 or R1 to curve the ball.

Chipped thru ball is more powerful (as in fast), and not so effective a before. Maybe there is a pressure sensitivity but my controller is so worn down, that I think may prevent me from using a soft touch. Right now have to try from your own half, if not the ball will skip thru to the opponents keeper.

Thru ball and 1-2 pass better, more accurate.

Thats al for now.

Anyone else, pls post your thoughts.

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QUOTE(jiwa @ Aug 9 2005, 11:10 AM)
For all those that can't patch, here's a quick way to get 90% English player names.

Get a copy of WE8LE 'patched'. Many on sale now. (i.e Ole, devil Mix)

In WE9 go to options, data manager. Import your WE8LE option file.
Viola you have most of your player names in English.

Menu is not such a big deal as it can figured out by trial and error.

Good luck.
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but the menu in japanese..dunno which one..?
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Anyone got any idea when the english version coming out??..
I realli got no idea on player names??... hafta recognise their face.... and ability ...

And its realli more realistic ... no more superb dribbling .. and more passing .. and i love that..
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well, laugh.gif
i have the patched version of winning eleven 9
all english! with the help of my dvd burner, and downloaded Fernando's English Patch, I have an english version of Winning Eleven 9!

but most of the spellings are wrong though..
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QUOTE(huruhara @ Aug 9 2005, 10:36 PM)
but the menu in japanese..dunno which one..?
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I'm sure you have played many iterations of WE/PES before.

The menu items are still in the same position. After a while you should be able to deduce 'what is where'. Only things different would be certain new features, which you can find out by trial and error.

Maybe there is even English commentary a-la WE8LE in there, but personally I hate it, I prefer the Spanish or Japanese commentator (More lively).

Right now I'm concentrating on squeezing in a lot of gameplay time, to evaluate the game. If not to my liking then I'l just go back to WE8LE (fully patched), and wait it out for PES5.

Good Luck.
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QUOTE(Da-heck @ Aug 9 2005, 10:40 PM)
Anyone got any idea when the english version coming out??..
I realli got no idea on player names??... hafta recognise their face.... and ability ...

And its realli more realistic ... no more superb dribbling .. and more passing .. and i love that..
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Da-heck,

Do you have patched WE8:LE, if yes you can import your palyer names from WE8LE toWE9.

(about 90-95% of the names can be ocnverted over)
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QUOTE(Sheep319 @ Aug 9 2005, 10:48 PM)
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i have the patched version of winning eleven 9
all english! with the help of my dvd burner, and downloaded Fernando's English Patch, I have an english version of Winning Eleven 9!

but most of the spellings are wrong though..
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how about players, jersy kit.. ? izzit updateee alreadyy??? sweat.gif
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I'm playing mine patched with fernando v3.0 + kosos option file v0.5. I believe it is the best combination at the moment. English menu, team names & player names, transfers to 8 Aug, national team kits, club kits, club logos, max wen, etc.

Not perfect. Still have some minor errors. But best there is at this moment. Wait a few more days/weeks and things should improve further.
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...guys..now we9 ..must be funny when we11 come out...hehehe " bos itu winning eleven eleven suda kluar ka..?"
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but do u guys able to adapt to the game setting? as in score goals and passing..i played WE8 be4...but not used to it..play too much fifa...

dunno wat's the difference in pc version though
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QUOTE(terranova @ Aug 10 2005, 10:33 PM)
I'm playing mine patched with fernando v3.0 + kosos option file v0.5. I believe it is the best combination at the moment. English menu, team names & player names, transfers to 8 Aug, national team kits, club kits, club logos, max wen, etc.

Not perfect. Still have some minor errors. But best there is at this moment. Wait a few more days/weeks and things should improve further.
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well, mmph, theres a new fernando patch

wasted one dvd.. sad.gif

and gonna get cd-rw and burn the option files...
which one is nice yah? drool.gif
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fernando v4.0 not compatible with kosos option file, including kosos v0.7. If u use fernando v4.0, need to have a clean option file (ie default save).

But I personally won't sacrifice this combo for a plain option file since having decent kits, transfers updated, max wen etc in kosos option file makes up for small upgrade improvements from fernando v3 to v4.

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QUOTE(terranova @ Aug 12 2005, 08:59 PM)
fernando v4.0 not compatible with kosos option file, including kosos v0.7. If u use fernando v4.0, need to have a clean option file (ie default save).

But I personally won't sacrifice this combo for a plain option file since having decent kits, transfers updated, max wen etc in kosos option file makes up for small upgrade improvements from fernando v3 to v4.
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I didnt even get my copy of WE9 yet to do the patching doh.gif

Neway dude, a bit confused... u r refering to which one that's better? unsure.gif

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Aug 13 2005, 11:12 AM)
I didnt even get my copy of WE9 yet to do the patching doh.gif

Neway dude, a bit confused... u r refering to which one that's better? unsure.gif
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Patching scene for WE9 change very fast at the moment, with many new patches and option files released every 2-3 days. However, there is still no one complete great patch yet since the new kits encryption not solved, and no new editors tool for WE9 released yet.

For me personally, I think the fernando v3.0 translation patch + kosos v0.7 option file combination is the best at this moment.


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QUOTE(terranova @ Aug 13 2005, 11:18 AM)
Patching scene for WE9 change very fast at the moment, with many new patches and option files released every 2-3 days. However, there is still no one complete great patch yet since the new kits encryption not solved, and no new editors tool for WE9 released yet.

For me personally, I think the fernando v3.0 translation patch + kosos v0.7 option file combination is the best at this moment.
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Ouch... new stuffs coming out so fast? Actually yesterday wanna get myself a copy of WE9 but then... again very busy till didnt get to the shop that I use to visit... neway dude, any good webbie for moves and tricks in WE9 before I start? smile.gif

EPL just started and watched few matches... hand feeling itchy wanna get myself on WE game laugh.gif
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QUOTE(huruhara @ Aug 11 2005, 10:18 PM)
...guys..now we9 ..must be funny when we11 come out...hehehe " bos itu winning eleven eleven suda kluar ka..?"
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Ha.ha. LOL Ya, sudah keluar, mah. Minngu depan ada 'new version' lagi, all English..

He.he.he Lmfao. biggrin.gif

Great post huruhara.
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Aug 15 2005, 09:20 AM)
Ouch... new stuffs coming out so fast? Actually yesterday wanna get myself a copy of WE9 but then... again very busy till didnt get to the shop that I use to visit... neway dude, any good webbie for moves and tricks in WE9 before I start? smile.gif

EPL just started and watched few matches... hand feeling itchy wanna get myself on WE game laugh.gif
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Really, ppl. If you have WE8:LE patched version you can get up and running quicly.
AS I said before, go to options, select mem-card. Select the to import option file from WE8LE. Confirm all the messgaes. Vioila have Eng. Player names already.

I may be among the minority here that doesn't own a PC & DVD burner. So that's why I use this abovemention method.

As for waiting for a patch. I may not actually arrive. Since most of these guys (Patchmakers) are actually waiting for PES5. (they just practicing skills now)

From what I hear hear, the editing comunity is very pleased with the kit and boot editor this time, so they may not patch at all. Ha.ha. just kidding. Acutally Konami have encrypted the kits somewhat, no one has figured it out yet. Most ppl, are now making their own kits, which is good IMO. I wish they'd just put in a ball, stadium, adboards and pitch editor and encrypt the whole shit. You want to customise, go ahead, do it yourself (no sharing though).

In M'sia we are a spoiled lot aren't we?. We don't even appreciate what those guys are doing, cause almost 'all' ppl here buy and are playing a pirated copy. Those guys are spending hours and days, patching cause they spent a loads of money on an incomplete game, without realising they probably going to get it ripped off in Asia.

Just play the game, and enjoy it as it is. afterall, we're in Malaysia ppl. JUst keep checking ur neighbouhood 'bootleg' game shop. I think PES5 will arrive before a patched version though.

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Really, ppl. If you have WE8:LE patched version you can get up and running quicly.
AS I said before, go to options, select mem-card. Select the to import option file from WE8LE. Confirm all the messgaes. Vioila have Eng. Player names already.

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mmm..why i can't copy my WE8: LE xxx ( reefur patch ).?..i can load the option file..but at the boxes ( we8 LE & WE9 ) blank..and can't select the boxes, not active..so how.? and one thing there's many option..dunno which one..aiseymenn plz help me..tq..bro!

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QUOTE(huruhara @ Aug 15 2005, 04:30 PM)
mmm..why i can't copy my WE8: LE xxx ( reefur patch ).?..i can  load the option file..but at the boxes ( we8 LE & WE9 ) blank..and can't select the boxes, not active..so how.? and one thing there's many option..dunno which one..aiseymenn plz help me..tq..bro!
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UR option file probably corrupted. It cannot recognize. Try housekeeping ur mem-card or create a new option file on a diff mem-card. When you patch reefurs, di you patch any other option file.

Cannot help you more than this, as I never encountered such problem.

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i dont have WE8 LE
can u guys send me the WE8LE option file ?
i will transfer it to my MC thru armax

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i just found out, using analog stick is WAY WAY much better, and smoother.. tongue.gif, but in WE9, i'm still playing with 2-3 stars..
5 stars is way impossible, because of my carelessness in passing.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Sheep319 @ Aug 15 2005, 10:00 PM)
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i just found out, using analog stick is WAY WAY much better, and smoother.. tongue.gif, but in WE9, i'm still playing with 2-3 stars..
5 stars is way impossible, because of my carelessness in passing.. sad.gif
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i think WE9 sucks .. when playing with my frend.. we cant drible.. cant pass correct.. tru pass like hay wire... and the game tak de flow.. skit sikt.. foul..


and when u r in possesion u hv to think fast cos if u poses too much then your fren will chelen u and it will foul.

if u play with no so good team then u will definately loose...

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dude, you need to have skills in this game, its all realistic la

you go do a one hell of a sliding tackle, and of course you kena foul, what you expect, referee blind?
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Just went to the shop during my lunch time but WE9 already sold out and need to wait for another 2 days... it is the shop that most convenient for me to go sad.gif
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i think winning eleven is far far far better than the EA sports FIFA...in terms of every thing....

any 1 tat play fifa2005 got notice or not, the leg of the players look a bit weird.....

come on winning eleven!!!!!!! flex.gif

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anyone encounter this problem ? .. i mean after u go to the cup match . the team list where u change it in the edit section seems to be unchanged .. how to fix this problem ? ..
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QUOTE(supar_depor @ Aug 16 2005, 12:31 PM)
i think WE9 sucks .. when playing with my frend.. we cant drible.. cant pass correct.. tru pass like hay wire... and the game tak de flow.. skit sikt.. foul..
and when u r in possesion u  hv to think fast cos if u poses too much then your fren will chelen u and it will foul.

if u play with no so good team then u will definately loose...
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haha...keep pratice lor. it's a typical traditon from WE as everytime a new series comes out...u hve to learn new moves n adapt to it. me starting oso cant win more than 1-2 goals, sometimes even can lose even tough is juz lvl 2 stars onli but soon when u used to it u can score alots of goals thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(supar_depor @ Aug 16 2005, 12:31 PM)
i think WE9 sucks .. when playing with my frend.. we cant drible.. cant pass correct.. tru pass like hay wire... and the game tak de flow.. skit sikt.. foul..
and when u r in possesion u  hv to think fast cos if u poses too much then your fren will chelen u and it will foul.

if u play with no so good team then u will definately loose...
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yaa...agree..keep on practice...seen my fren can dribble people easily..u should try ronaldinho skill..tap R2 3x times...damn cun...then got some skill where u can bring the ball to the back while dribbeling with style...then...the AI now kindda hard...with 3 star also hard to win now...

More Practice Sure Can Win thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(supar_depor @ Aug 16 2005, 12:31 PM)
i think WE9 sucks .. when playing with my frend.. we cant drible.. cant pass correct.. tru pass like hay wire... and the game tak de flow.. skit sikt.. foul..
and when u r in possesion u  hv to think fast cos if u poses too much then your fren will chelen u and it will foul.

if u play with no so good team then u will definately loose...
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you are not talented in this game, go play fifa, less skill needed.

you can probably have more fun with fifa.

coz WE learning curve is quite long, i played since the first of the series, yet i have problems everytime a new one comes out.

but then, i never dislike them, all those improvements just rocks.

WE9 is fun after you get used to the dribble and passing, and free kicks are actually easier to hit target.
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Definitely agree with u guyz wink.gif

Neway, SUNJUN WE9 DVD PATCH beta 1.0 already available for download. Bear in mind that it's still in beta and a lot of problems as stated wink.gif
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WHEN WILL THE PC VERSION BE OUT?,I NOT GONNA ATTEND CLASSES THE DAY IT COMES OUT,I'M GONNA DO OPENING CEREMONY AND UPLOAD THE GAME TO THE FILE SHARING SERVER,whOHOOO,the greatest football simulation ever is coming out in a new version,whOHOOO!!!
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Those with enough experience to the football simulation gaming genre will tell you that the Winning Eleven series beats the crap out of EA's FIFA or even Konami's own PES series (for European markets). Therefore, patchers have and will continue to patch the WE series for the footballing community's enjoyment. Wohoo to that.

Love WE9. Period. Winning games at 5-stars but still cannot manage winnning consistently at 6-stars. Need more practice. As pointed out by other posters above, every iteration of WE requires us to adjust and re-learn. The AI rocks this time. Love the man-to-man marking, the shielding for possession of ball. Scoring from crosses is easier now, back to WE8I, unlike WE8LE which I found to be difficult. Wish the throw-in reverts back to receiver-control rather than thrower-control, like in WE8 or WE7 (can't remember). I wish the chip-through pass was higher like in WE8LE, which was my favourite weapon. Have to re-learn with this new chip-through pass.

I've uploaded a beta game manual of PES5, which should benefit your WE9 gaming experience. Download here if interested:

http://rapidshare.de/files/4060457/pes5_manual.zip.html


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surely every edition will be different in terms of playing skills...else will not call new edition... shakehead.gif


i think mr.supar_depor use back the skills in WE8 to play in WE9 tongue.gif ..



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doh.gif Expected comment from anyone who applies his 'skills'/'habits' learnt from WE8 and before to WE9.

I've said it before, in this and forums. You need to 'forget' how you used to play before. Re-learn the new game mechanics and re-apply them to your style of play. I think certain people who've 'mastered' certain moves are the ones finding trouble with this version. All your money plays don't work now is it ? thumbup.gif


QUOTE(supar_depor @ Aug 16 2005, 12:31 PM)
i think WE9 sucks .. when playing with my frend.. we cant drible.. cant pass correct.. tru pass like hay wire... ..


Now, you can dribble in WE9. Sometimes its better than WE8, sometimes it's not. This is mainly caused by the auto-sidestep feature. After you un-learn your 'lubok' moves from WE8, you'll come to grips with the dribbiling mechanics in the new version. Then you'll find out how to dribble in WE9. (Tip: If you play footbal in real life, youll have no problem ). First 5 games I was sidestepping all over the place too. No more instant 90 deg/180 turns right. He.he.

Same goes for passing. Generally not many problems, IMO. Its just that I think most people here have been playing WE series for ages and it has not changed as much as it has now.

Also the 'super-cancel' is somewhat automated to an extent now. So, if had you noticed, your AI players are moving about more now. Not fixed to one spot so much and waiting for ball. I personally feel that passing is sometimes more accurate now, from previous versions and the implementation of the near (soft touch) and far (hard touch) is much more evident now.

Of course, sometimes passes still go astray or don't end up where you want. These glitches exist,(always did in all versions) but doesn't happen all the time as to render the game unplayable as some have said.

Also passes are played into space more. So you have to also move people to receive passses just like in real football.

"Jangan tunggu bola datang, sambut bola" remember this line.

Also there's tons of new animation and opponents have new abilities for CMF/DMF that they stick out their leg more to nudge/block your passing more.

Long passing is about the same, not much changed. The passes flight have lower trajectory, though and has more pace.

1-2 passsing also more accurate, and the give 'n go pass works better now.

Thru pass is being debated everywhere. Most say its screwed up. I agree to an extent, as I liked the old style too. But still can work with it.

Anyway, there are two types as we know. Normal & chipped. Normal thru pass is more faster now, and palyed in to space a lot more ahead of your player.

All in timing now, U need to watch for the AI runs then you'll get it spot on, if your're just reacting to it, you'll find its intercepted or runs too far ahead of you.

Second, the chipped thru pass. This is the one most people are against. We'll I used this a lot too , and found it was just nice previously, since it was slower and higher.

Now, its lower, faster and less backspin, so it skips ahead more. To use somewhat effectively in in WE9, you have to execute the pass from deeper in you own half.

Have to admit that the thru pass was one of the most exploited moves in WE series. Now its not so effective all the time and we're forced to find alternative passing methods. Thats all. Have to live with it until the next 'evolution' I gues. (PES5 will be the same)

Certain people have also said that it's player dependant. Certain players with high passing/technique can weight the passes better. Can't confirm or deny this yet, since I don't switch between so many teams.

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and when u r in possesion u   hv to think fast cos if u poses too much then your fren will chelen u and it will foul.
No body is going to give us time on the ball to think. Thats foolish. We have to make that time yourself. One word : COMPOSURE on the ball.

We have so much control on the ball now. So many move to hold the ball, diff types of modifiers for 1st touch. Dragback, shielding etc.etc. You can hold the ball and plan your move better now IMO. And the way CF's receive the ball with their backs to faol is good now.

I feel your opponent has not come to grips with the defending controls yet, thats why he's fouling so much. Once he figures it out, he'll press you even more, and may not even not foul you.

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and the game tak de flow.. skit sikt.. foul


Initially yes, once you get to grips with it, no more. Why?

If your opponent pressing you so much, I'll assume he's defending a-la WE8 and holding X or SQ with R1 to close you down. Sure as hell to foul a lot like that. Just let him pick up a few cards and see what he does next. Now have to think and defend.

Bear in mind, playing defence in WE9 is so different now, that if you play aginst someone whose pressing so much (chasing you all over) there'll be many holes to exploit if you have a firm grasp of the passing, and possesion controls.

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If you have only only style of play, (most of us do) and apply it to all teams, might not work for you. Also stats are there for a purpose, you HAVE to be aware of each and every players individual stats/strengths to use weaker teams. This has been the case for WE8:LE and before too. But its even more critical now. Play to your teams strengths.

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QUOTE(Sheep319 @ Aug 15 2005, 10:00 PM)
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i just found out, using analog stick is WAY WAY much better, and smoother.. tongue.gif, but in WE9, i'm still playing with 2-3 stars..
5 stars is way impossible, because of my carelessness in passing.. sad.gif
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I've always been using analog sticks for WE way back on the PSX, when the dualshock came out. My stick's a bit worn down but if you have a good original controller, theres so much more responsiveness. (must stress on 'ori' though, as even the AAA grade can't compare).

Hmmm. doh.gif , come to think of it, maybe those who complained on dribbling are using the D-PAD.

Since we can do more drastic direction changes with DPAD. With analog can do more subtle/smoother changes. Comes down to individual style, iguess. Anyway I know the last two iterations of WE have favoured analog users more.

3* is challenging already in WE9. Still a long way to go before I want give 5* a go in WE9. Although I can say I'm comfortable iwth the new gameplay mechanics and controls, i'm still discovering new things each day.

Until I find out every nuance , only then I move to 4* or 5* since at these levels you don't have the luxury of 'playing the fool' anymore. You need to know exactly what to do, and when to do it.

I've heard some ppl say that in a way 5* seems easier, as the CPU attack more, and doesnt pack its defence so much.

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i love WE9 more than WE8
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anyway, anybody wanna help me wit the WE8:LE option file
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i'm afraid that we9 is becoming more like fifa2004 game by easports..boringgg...please dont let this happen
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Meh.. Looks like We pc users gonna get PES 5 first  unsure.gif
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well, to be honest, WE9 is getting A BIT like WE9..

the delays in passing..
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when the patched ps2 release at local store.?.? i dun have dvd writer...aiseymen sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Sheep319 @ Aug 19 2005, 12:38 PM)
well, to be honest, WE9 is getting A BIT like WE9..

the delays in passing..
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Neway, most probably today only will head to the shop to get my copy of WE9 and then patch it up tonite... damm... to bz with work and studies sweat.gif

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QUOTE(ruicosta @ Aug 18 2005, 01:10 PM)
i'm afraid that we9 is becoming more like fifa2004 game by easports..boringgg...please dont let this happen
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This will never happen man.......... WE already got many version now..........
Please dun compare WE with FIFA game by easport... FIFA 2*** is a good soccer game too, but the gameplay is different... I like WE most of my life !!
But u can c Konami and EApost r trying to make gameplay more like real soccer..........
U can feel it when u play it....... smile.gif

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I just picked up the latest copy of Official PS2 magazine ("OPS2") from the airport and there was an article about the total revamp of FIFA 06 to make it play more like the WE series, right up to identical key combos. They are supposed to have changed the entire design team and worked the core game engine from ground up. From the screenshots of FIFA 06, the graphics also appear better than WE9 + fully licensed teams and rooster. We can only hope .....

Back to my WE9 game...

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QUOTE(Sheep319 @ Aug 19 2005, 12:38 PM)
well, to be honest, WE9 is getting A BIT like WE9..

the delays in passing..
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eh ptuik

I meant, WE9 is starting to be like FEE FAH!

the delays in passing unsure.gif

(thats better)
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QUOTE(huruhara @ Aug 19 2005, 11:19 PM)
when the patched ps2 release at local store.?.? i dun have dvd writer...aiseymen sweat.gif
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just bought frm kota raya WE 9 " original ver.- cover with real's player figo, becks... " the tokey said this english patch one..commentary in jap..menu.,player names in eng.
balik nanti baru boleh try..yehaaaaaa..!
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Just downloaded Sunjun's Beta Patch yesterday but haven't got time to try it out sweat.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Aug 22 2005, 04:33 PM)
Just downloaded Sunjun's Beta Patch yesterday but haven't got time to try it out sweat.gif
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DOn't have access to a DVD burner. Does anyone know if a 'fully patched' bootleg version is already on sale. Want to start ML now, but can't really enjoy it fully, without everthing being in English. Have managed so far with the Jap menus, but for ML you want to keep track of players skills/growth/scouting, and more depth in you formations and strategies.

Cheers ppl.
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YES biggrin.gif ..there's fernando patch 4 ps2..commentary in jap., option in eng., names in eng.. but not fully patched..( badges..) tapi ok la.. thumbup.gif

ANYWAY : MERDEKA ! MERDEKA ! MERDEKA !

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QUOTE(huruhara @ Aug 29 2005, 08:52 PM)
YES biggrin.gif ..there's fernando patch 4 ps2..commentary in jap., option in eng., names in eng.. but not fully patched..( badges..) tapi ok la.. thumbup.gif

ANYWAY : MERDEKA ! MERDEKA ! MERDEKA !
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Thanks huruhara.

Got a 'copy' yesterday. Cover Pic of Rooney in Everton Jersey. Appears to be a Fernando V4 patch, and all the latest transfers updated. Hover don't like how they've done the player and team names since they're all in long format.

I.e Salgado = Michael Salgado IMO looks ugly during gameplay (sooo loong).

Have to edit some myself again. But iMportant thing is everything except for some of the Help in Go for 2006 mode is translated. Can get down to some serious ML now.

Hoooray.!! thumbup.gif

Happy Merdeka to all.
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QUOTE(jiwa @ Aug 30 2005, 05:06 PM)
Thanks huruhara.

Got a 'copy' yesterday. Cover Pic of Rooney in Everton Jersey. Appears to be a Fernando V4 patch, and all the latest transfers updated. Hover don't like how they've done the player and team names since they're all in long format.

I.e Salgado = Michael Salgado IMO looks ugly during gameplay (sooo loong).

Have to edit some myself again. But iMportant thing is everything except for some of the Help in Go for 2006 mode is translated. Can get down to some serious ML now.

Hoooray.!!  thumbup.gif

Happy Merdeka to all.
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i suggest, someone try make tutorial laa, how to patch data in we9.. ok what..
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i suggest, someone try make tutorial laa, how to patch data in we9.. ok what..
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i suggest, someone try make tutorial laa, how to patch data in we9.. ok what..
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What do you mean by patch data actually? Has the pc version been release? Or can you do it on a console?
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What do you mean by patch data actually? Has the pc version been release? Or can you do it on a console?
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'Patch' means some of the original games graphic/text files have been repalced by user created ones.

Yes, can be done on consoles but its so much easier to patch on PC's.

All the bootleg 'english' or so called 'new versions' out in the market are in fact copies of a patched game.

PC version, I think U have to wait for WE9I - Jan 06

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Downloaded a few patches but haven't try on any of it sweat.gif... I even haven't boot my WE9 game since I bought it doh.gif...

Too busy with studies and work... end of semester now, perhaps Reefur's patch might be entertaining during my break wink.gif

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Finally yesterday I tried the WE9 patched with Wemerica v2.5 and also Wemerica OF v2.7 smile.gif

Nothing much to comment yet since I only played a few games... the pace is much slower and the GKs r getting better. But the sound of the stadium really make me get irritated while playing... damm noisy, short and keep on repeat sweat.gif *perhaps it's the patch but no the originals doh.gif*. Managed to score from free kicks as well smile.gif

(I haven't try clean WE9 before tongue.gif laugh.gif)
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Managed to score from free kicks as well smile.gif

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well, the free kicks are easier now
when outside the box, just press down, R1, and square, and right before you reach the line, a guarentee goal thumbup.gif
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what's the different between winning 11/8 and 9?
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QUOTE(DevilZzz @ Sep 4 2005, 08:45 PM)
what's the different between winning 11/8 and 9?
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doh.gif alamak.. DEVILzzz..tak pernah main WE ker..? atau fifa fan..? shakehead.gif
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wah lau eh! i bought WE9 english version but only the first menu is in english.. all in JAPANESE!
damn.. but the game was fun! really harder than WE8.. thrashed everyone (6 stars) in WE8..

but now.. WE9 can win world cup with 3 stars but really struggle in 4 stars.. playin league now and drawing with everyone 0-0 using Man UTd.. haha! barely beat PSV 1-0 ! haha.. Pld 5 W1 D4 L0 GD1 Pts 7

ahahahaha!! the good thing about this game is specific team plays with their own style..
like my Man U relies on flanks a lot.. my wingers so free all the time but i cant really utilise it cuz i aint no flank players..

Drew 0-0 against Real and they really have good penetrating thru passes.. bocor giler my defence with their def splitting passes but they cant convert their chances.. which really a shame also cuz i have mine and hit the post twice!

damn addictive man! cant wait for PES or WE9: full english version! at least gimme menu in english la.. tak paham la..
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QUOTE(chenster @ Sep 6 2005, 11:54 AM)
wah lau eh! i bought WE9 english version but only the first menu is in english.. all in JAPANESE!
damn.. but the game was fun! really harder than WE8.. thrashed everyone (6 stars) in WE8..

but now.. WE9 can win world cup with 3 stars but really struggle in 4 stars.. playin league now and drawing with everyone 0-0 using Man UTd.. haha! barely beat PSV 1-0 ! haha.. Pld 5 W1 D4 L0 GD1 Pts 7

ahahahaha!! the good thing about this game is specific team plays with their own style..
like my Man U relies on flanks a lot.. my wingers so free all the time but i cant really utilise it cuz i aint no flank players..

Drew 0-0 against Real and they really have good penetrating thru passes.. bocor giler my defence with their def splitting passes but they cant convert their chances.. which really a shame also cuz i have mine and hit the post twice!

damn addictive man! cant wait for PES or WE9: full english version! at least gimme menu in english la.. tak paham la..
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U play on PS2? Got dvd-burner? unsure.gif

Download patch, patch it, burn and then play in english tongue.gif
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QUOTE(chenster @ Sep 6 2005, 11:54 AM)
wah lau eh! i bought WE9 english version but only the first menu is in english.. all in JAPANESE!
damn.. but the game was fun! really harder than WE8.. thrashed everyone (6 stars) in WE8..

but now.. WE9 can win world cup with 3 stars but really struggle in 4 stars.. playin league now and drawing with everyone 0-0 using Man UTd.. haha! barely beat PSV 1-0 ! haha.. Pld 5 W1 D4 L0 GD1 Pts 7

ahahahaha!! the good thing about this game is specific team plays with their own style..
like my Man U relies on flanks a lot.. my wingers so free all the time but i cant really utilise it cuz i aint no flank players..

Drew 0-0 against Real and they really have good penetrating thru passes.. bocor giler my defence with their def splitting passes but they cant convert their chances.. which really a shame also cuz i have mine and hit the post twice!

damn addictive man! cant wait for PES or WE9: full english version! at least gimme menu in english la.. tak paham la..
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Don't tell me about the GREAT things in WE9.. i makes me crazy! drool.gif
Really impatient to wait for PES5! LOL laugh.gif
BTW, is there any change in gameplay? i mean the controller and the atmosphere. eh i heard about un-tuck shirt and new wristband. is it un-tuck shirt same like long sleeves.. that actually can set for a player? or when they play only it change.

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Playing as Real Madrid *with default match mode players* in Master League with all EPL's clubs and few other famous clubs with 5 stars difficulty in a League A. Won dunno how many games but only lost 1 and no draws so far. But heh... all also won by 1-0 only sweat.gif

*haven't get myself to the new pace and gameplay*

P/S: The thing is... Ronaldo haven't score once doh.gif

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haha.. must be man utd lacking in attacking options.. must try with Real..
need to play more.. get used to the gameplay..

well the most obvious changes dat i noticed is i keep conceding freekicks.. meaning easier to foul an opponent.. so dun go barging into a players holding the X button! not a good idea.. watch ur timing and maybe ask for backup with the square button..

the untuck jerseys and wristbands are just to make it more realistic.. of coz ur players start with their jerseys tucked.. the wristband thingie i din noticed at all.. haha..

i wanted to wait for PES5.. y not get a dose of WE9 first? jes to kill time while waiting for PES5.. definitely worth it!!

i heard some dude selling WE9 on PSP too? that gives me another reason to get PSP now.. WE9 on the go! anywer during lunch, cinema, driving, yamcha! haha..
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QUOTE(chenster @ Sep 6 2005, 05:10 PM)
haha.. must be man utd lacking in attacking options.. must try with Real..
need to play more.. get used to the gameplay..

well the most obvious changes dat i noticed is i keep conceding freekicks.. meaning easier to foul an opponent.. so dun go barging into a players holding the X button! not a good idea.. watch ur timing and maybe ask for backup with the square button..

the untuck jerseys and wristbands are just to make it more realistic.. of coz ur players start with their jerseys tucked.. the wristband thingie i din noticed at all.. haha..

i wanted to wait for PES5.. y not get a dose of WE9 first? jes to kill time while waiting for PES5.. definitely worth it!!

i heard some dude selling WE9 on PSP too? that gives me another reason to get PSP now.. WE9 on the go! anywer during lunch, cinema, driving, yamcha! haha..
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Not really... Real Madrid only left Ronaldo, Robinho and Raul as the strikers but in the formation (I'm using Wemerica OF v2.7) and starting lineup is Ronaldo and Robinho as the strikers while Raul as Offensive Midfielder shakehead.gif. Not a really good option with me so I put Zidane in the centre rather than being in his usual left upper position smile.gif. Then I replaced Raul with Baptisa and keeping him as one of the striker as substitute or back-up in case any of them injured. And yeah.. as expected, Ronaldo limping out in the 3rd league game and rested for 2 weeks. Lucky minor injury sweat.gif.

Then for 3 games Raul partnering with Robinho but still Raul failed to score any goal *same case with Ronaldo* sad.gif. Although he managed to fast break thru a few times but failed to get the ball in control *heh, this is something new I feel with WE9 then tongue.gif, dun expect ur player can dash that fast toward the ball*. But surprising Beckham performing quite well as Centre Midfielder and has the highest rate for MF players in ranking 7.38 shocking.gif *but normal leh if WE overrated Beckham sweat.gif*. With Zidane, Baptisa, Gravesen and Beckham in the midfield is good enough for me at the moment nod.gif. Zidane still that great in controlling the ball but get fatigue too easily. Neway, he's the top scorer in my team now tongue.gif.

Terranova and Alvin gave me some good tips last time in playing the game better smile.gif. Try not to hit the 'X' (pressure) possible but in other way predict your opponent movement. Else time ur 'X' and the interception smile.gif. But in WE9, I feel there's a bit different in pressuring the opponent. I feel it's much easier now to get the ball with some 'holding' down 'X' in certain situation biggrin.gif.

Tonite gotta continue my league again cool.gif

P/S: Real's defense really sux and thankx to Cassilas I only conceded one goal so far laugh.gif
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muahaha.. last nite continue my league.. did pretty well.. won everything and drew once with Bayern.. a match i shud have won! so many blardee chances and i blew it! probably too sleepy cuz aredi 2am! (need to work la, not like college can stay up til 5 anymore)

lost to blardee chelsea thru a very stupid OWN goal nearing end of 90s.. so far only conceded 2 goals in 10 games. one to chelsea and a 2-1 win over barca.. 2-0 up tot was gonna be my highest scoring game ever but they clawed back 1 from Ronaldinho's freekick and i hang on til the end..

well, all wins only 1-0 and for most matches i dominated but cant convert the chances.. maybe play a lil bit more shud be able to score more and move to 5 stars.. hehe..

well, i dun shuffle with any formations jes rotate players cuz want to preserver WE9's default formation.. i cant see freaking names so i rotate by remembering numbers from real players.. haha!

btw, im playing PS2 and no DVD burner.. so cant really update anything.. unless somebody do it for me? willing to COD.. haha!!
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btw im playing the league.. not the master league.. choose my best teams in the league.. maybe when i get bored then i move to master league..

like vearn sed.. WE9 really need to time ur X properly and cant simply hold X all the while.. but some i did it intentionaly! ehek!

i intercept sometimes by predicting movements lor.. and i slides a lot these days to cut passes.. also i like to pressure all over the field and call backups with square button.. scored a few by pressuring even at their half!

usually back off a bit in my half but depending on team.. some can really koyak ur def if pressure too much.. some even koyak for them also cannot score.. haha..

dats' about all the poisoning to everyone reading.. faster get ur WE9 now!
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any tips on scoring freekicks from 35 meter ? ..
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Do the trainings and controls in WE smile.gif
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anyone using patches ? .. if so .. whats the best patch so far ? ... biggrin.gif
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press up+shhot ( till 1/2 bar ) then press x or triangle..left or right for curve

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this games very nice but what i hate it most is the referee....the referee seem to blow his wistle whenever he want...even when i dont push any button when challenging the oppenent and its was a foul....summore the offside was always disappoiting me from WE8 nothing much to say....this really killing the good mood of me when playing its..........
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anyone using patches ? .. if so .. whats the best patch so far ? ... biggrin.gif
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I'm using Wemerica v3.0 with v3.0 Special OF... ok ler... just the chants damm boring and noisy shakehead.gif

QUOTE(PhibeRoptiC @ Sep 12 2005, 09:02 PM)
this games very nice but what i hate it most is the referee....the referee seem to blow his wistle whenever he want...even when i dont push any button when challenging the oppenent and its was a foul....summore the offside was always disappoiting me from WE8 nothing much to say....this really killing the good mood of me when playing its..........
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Refrees been more 'strict' this time sweat.gif

Feel like watching NBA... pass the ball few times then foul doh.gif

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Sep 12 2005, 11:12 PM)
I'm using Wemerica v3.0 with v3.0 Special OF... ok ler... just the chants damm boring and noisy shakehead.gif
Refrees been more 'strict' this time sweat.gif

Feel like watching NBA... pass the ball few times then foul doh.gif
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Oh i see .. how do u apply the patch ? ... cause i dunnot understand to patch the wemerica .. i only managed to patch the bombillero . so any tips on applying the wemerica patch wink.gif




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QUOTE(rhoyo @ Sep 13 2005, 11:37 AM)
Oh i see .. how do u apply the patch ?  ... cause i dunnot understand to patch the wemerica .. i only managed to patch the bombillero .  so any tips on applying the wemerica patch  wink.gif
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Suppose there's the DKZ Studio Installer that came together with the bundle, rite? Install it, update it and then follow the instruction as mentioned in the Readme file wink.gif

Tips: Point at each icons on top of the DKZ Studio to get an idea what are the icons and also how to patch according to the Readme smile.gif

*different version, different way of patching according to the Readme*
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QUOTE(huruhara @ Sep 12 2005, 08:46 PM)
press up+shhot ( till 1/2 bar ) then press x or triangle..left or right for curve
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i think its r1 and l1 for curve in we9.

btw, new edited kits are now available for we9. the real one patched into dvd, not the option file one.
now im trying to add all up. kits+music+translation.
i hope it works, if not im gonna waste another dvd. sad.gif
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do someone here have link to WE9 guides......its hard to me to discover something new in this games....keep losing and only can win by penalty.....lousy me...
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terranova uploaded this file earlier and it's a good guide to learn how to play WE9. Anyway, the actual guides and controls also available inside the game provided u go thru the trainings and controls tutorial tongue.gif


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Attached File  pes5_manual.zip ( 1.15mb ) Number of downloads: 34
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well looks like the wemerica patch doesn't include the dkz studio program .. which version do u use ? .. i'm quite blur about this software .. do i have to download the fernando patch also ? smile.gif
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QUOTE(rhoyo @ Sep 15 2005, 11:53 AM)
well looks like the wemerica patch doesn't include the dkz studio program .. which version do u use ? .. i'm quite blur about this software .. do i have to download the fernando patch also ? smile.gif
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Got leh... which version of Wemerica patch that u downloaded? So far... all included DKZ Studio installer that I had downloaded... unsure.gif

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any tips on scoring freekicks from 35 meter ? ..
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i need some opinion, if i want patch the data on dvd cd.. what the best dvd burner can i buy?? please give model and price.. thanks... thumbup.gif
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Dunno why... I just getting bored of this game... perhaps due to strict refereeing compare to previous sad.gif *yeah, I admit it's getting more realistic... perhaps my current life is dull and empty, so not in the mood for the game doh.gif*. Now in da Master League 5 stars difficulty and ranked 3rd in the 1st Division with few matches to go before the first negotiation period arrive.

My lineup:

CF: Raul, Dijbril Cisse (somewhat he's better to control than Ronaldo tongue.gif)
LMF: Robinho
RMF: Beckham (c'mon, dun put him in da middle doh.gif)
CMF: Gravesen, Steven Gerrard (I never regret for the amount of points that I had paid for him tongue.gif)
LSB: R. Carlos
RSB: M. Saldago
CB: I. Helguera, J. Woodgate

Most played substitutes:

Ronaldo
Park Ji Sung
Guti
Baptista
Sergio Ramos
Raul Bravo
Cesar Sanchez? *dunno how to spell laugh.gif*

During the transfer window will hunt for some potential defenders and also midfielders smile.gif. Dunno why I couldn't control Ronaldo nicely and both Raul and Dijbril Cisse the top hitman now even thou Ronaldo had longer play time than Dijbril Cisse shocking.gif
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Maximo's Chants patch, FIFA Commentary patch and Hawkes's patch save my day... no more lousy chants and feel kinda new with FIFA Commentary on WE9 laugh.gif

Just patched it and not so 'frustrated' with the lousy commentary and chants already tongue.gif
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Went thru the negotiation period and secured the service of Cristiano Ronaldo and also Marshall (will be my 2nd option for GK now as Cesar Sanchez getting old tongue.gif). Reshuffle the team:

4-4-2 formation

----------------------------- Dijbril Cisse (CF)---------------------
--------------- Raul (CF)--------------------------------------------
-- C. Ronaldo (LMF) ------------------------ Beckham (RMF) --
-------------------------------- S. Gerrard (CMF) ------------------
-------------- T. Gravesen (CMF ) -------------------------------
-- R. Carlos (LSB) ------------------------ M. Saldago (RSB) --
----------- Sergio Ramos (CB) --- J. Woodgate (CB) ----------
------------------------- Cassilas (GK) -----------------------------

Most played substitutes:

Ronaldo (CF)
Robinho (CF or LMF)
Park Ji Sung (LMF or RMF)
Guti (CMF)
Baptista (CMF)
I. Helguera (CMF or CB)
Raul Bravo (CB)
Marshall (2nd GK)

Ranked 6th in the league now with 7 wins, 6 draws and 3 losses and managed to get into D1 Cup semi-final. Raul is da top scorer in da league now. S. Gerrard is the key player in attacking after Zidane had left. His passing and long powerful shots always come in the right time. Even struck a goal from 32m away with free kick. Sergio Ramos is the man when it come to defending. I didnt noticed he's tat good when I rested I. Helguera due to fatigue. He played quite well in observing opponent penetration and intercept it biggrin.gif *he's good at this position, but when I swapped he with J. Woodgate position, he's ain't tat good... funny... after all, both also CB position tongue.gif*
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I play PE55 demo. i think it as same as WE9. really easy to control the ball, hard to through pass, i'm ok with that coz still can find opportunity to pass; but referee so strict even my player position at the same line as the opponent defender still he whistle offside, i hate that! LOL laugh.gif
btw i like the "improvement that PE55" when player got injuries.
i hate waiting for PE55~F**K!
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Sep 26 2005, 08:46 AM)
Went thru the negotiation period and secured the service of Cristiano Ronaldo and also Marshall (will be my 2nd option for GK now as Cesar Sanchez getting old tongue.gif). Reshuffle the team:

4-4-2 formation

----------------------------- Dijbril Cisse (CF)---------------------
--------------- Raul (CF)--------------------------------------------
-- C. Ronaldo (LMF) ------------------------ Beckham (RMF) --
-------------------------------- S. Gerrard (CMF) ------------------
-------------- T. Gravesen (CMF ) -------------------------------
-- R. Carlos (LSB) ------------------------ M. Saldago (RSB) --
----------- Sergio Ramos (CB) --- J. Woodgate (CB) ----------
------------------------- Cassilas (GK) -----------------------------

Most played substitutes:

Ronaldo (CF)
Robinho (CF or LMF)
Park Ji Sung (LMF or RMF)
Guti (CMF)
Baptista (CMF)
I. Helguera (CMF or CB)
Raul Bravo (CB)
Marshall (2nd GK)

Ranked 6th in the league now with 7 wins, 6 draws and 3 losses and managed to get into D1 Cup semi-final. Raul is da top scorer in da league now. S. Gerrard is the key player in attacking after Zidane had left. His passing and long powerful shots always come in the right time. Even struck a goal from 32m away with free kick. Sergio Ramos is the man when it come to defending. I didnt noticed he's tat good when I rested I. Helguera due to fatigue. He played quite well in observing opponent penetration and intercept it biggrin.gif *he's good at this position, but when I swapped he with J. Woodgate position, he's ain't tat good... funny... after all, both also CB position tongue.gif*
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Hmmm. I'm using Real in my ML too. Right now in 2nd season. Still got Owen there, since if I was the Manager I'd never let him go. Beckham is a bollocks player and together with Raul and Woodgate are on my transfer list. Plan to use the ref funds for Raul to lure Adriano over to Real.

My best eleven:

-------------------Schwarz(CF)-------------------------------------
------------------------------------Ronaldo(CF)--------------------
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-----------------------------J.Baptista (OMF)-----------------------
-----------Zidane (OMF)--------------------------------------------
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-----------------------------------------------Kaebi (CMF)----------
---------------------Gravesen(CMF)--------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
--------R.Carlos(SB)--------------------------------Cicinho(SB)---
-------------------Kompany(CB)-------V.D.Borre(CB)-------------
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------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------Casillas(GK)-------------------------


Frequent Subs:

Owen/Raul --> for CF
Robinho --> for ST or OMF position.
M.Salgado for Cicinho
Beckham for Kaebi/Gravesen
Guti/Raul for Zidane

Schwarz is my great find in this game. Only 19 years old, big build and powerful left foot. Good in the air,and has freekick abilities. Although still very raw and his control and speed is very poor right now, should develop well in the next few seasons. If you play to his strengths, can be a good target man.

Hosin Kaebi is my main Sideback since WE8I. Never fails me. Althouhg stamina is a bit bad and smal size, he's got speed and good passing. Also has good psoitioning sense if you use him offensively. Should develop well.

Owen is good but has got a useless left foot. Raul dissapointing as always for me. Ronaldo, still good, but gets injured often. Zidane the master, can't last a match.

Depending on the opponent, if they play an open game, I 'll use the more skilled palyers. If they are tough defensively, i'll play more direct and have more muscle in the lineup e.g sometime use ppl like J.Baptista as CF since he's stronger. biggrin.gif

Looking to bring in some youth in next transfer window.
Cover for CMF and CB as well as a young GK like K.Schemichel or Lewis.
For DF Pique or Orlandi would be great cover for R.Carlos.

Cheers

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QUOTE(Mie @ Sep 26 2005, 11:06 AM)
I play PE55 demo. i think it as same as WE9. really easy to control the ball, hard to through pass, i'm ok with that coz still can find opportunity to pass; but referee so strict even my player position at the same line as the opponent defender still he whistle offside, i hate that! LOL laugh.gif
btw i like the "improvement that PE55" when player got injuries.
i hate waiting for PE55~F**K!
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Yeah, couldn't deny that the refereeing very strict already and often happen more fouls.. Sometime silly fouls happen too sweat.gif.. and the GK getting better, difficult to 1 on 1 now tongue.gif... as I mentioned earlier, now it's like watching NBA for me... always foul within short period of play doh.gif

One more thing easily noticed, last time in Master League, I didnt receive any offer from other club asking for a trade but now got di tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jiwa @ Sep 26 2005, 03:15 PM)
Hmmm. I'm using Real in my ML too. Right now in 2nd season. Still got Owen there, since if I was the Manager I'd never let him go. Beckham is a bollocks player and together with Raul and Woodgate are on my transfer list. Plan to use the ref funds for Raul to lure Adriano over to Real.

My best eleven:

-------------------Schwarz(CF)-------------------------------------
------------------------------------Ronaldo(CF)--------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------J.Baptista (OMF)-----------------------
-----------Zidane (OMF)--------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------Kaebi (CMF)----------
---------------------Gravesen(CMF)--------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
--------R.Carlos(SB)--------------------------------Cicinho(SB)---
-------------------Kompany(CB)-------V.D.Borre(CB)-------------
------------------------------------------------------------------------
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---------------------------------Casillas(GK)-------------------------
Frequent Subs:

Owen/Raul  --> for CF
Robinho --> for ST or OMF position.
M.Salgado for Cicinho
Beckham for Kaebi/Gravesen
Guti/Raul for Zidane

Schwarz is my great find in this game. Only 19 years old, big build and powerful left foot. Good in the air,and has freekick abilities. Although still very raw and his control and speed is very poor right now, should develop well in the next few seasons. If you play to his strengths, can be a good target man.

Hosin Kaebi is my main Sideback since WE8I. Never fails me. Althouhg stamina is a bit bad and smal size, he's got speed and good passing. Also has good psoitioning sense if you use him offensively. Should develop well.

Owen is good but has got a useless left foot. Raul dissapointing as always for me. Ronaldo, still good, but gets injured often. Zidane the master, can't last a match.

Depending on the opponent, if they play an open game, I 'll use the more skilled palyers. If they are tough defensively, i'll play more direct and have more muscle in the lineup e.g sometime use ppl like J.Baptista as CF since he's stronger. biggrin.gif

Looking to bring in some youth in next transfer window.
Cover for CMF and CB as well as a young GK like K.Schemichel or Lewis.
For DF Pique or Orlandi would be great cover for R.Carlos.

Cheers
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Hehe.. in my patched version of WE9 *I did it myself tongue.gif*, already got some latest transfers and Owen already went to Newcastle. He's good... fast... but sometime lack of accuracy. Anyway, what version that u r playing? In WE9, I can feel Raul is much better than the WE8I or WE8LE Raul. In the other way, I feel Ronaldo is lacking sweat.gif... That's why Raul and Dijbril Cisse in my starting lineup smile.gif... different para perhaps laugh.gif

Beckham in the other way, he's ok for me. After all, everytime he's overrated sweat.gif. I switched him to play as RMF rather than being CMF. *give ur way to Great Steven Gerrard laugh.gif*. J. Woodgate? Still ok lar... better than Pavon, but I miss W. Samuel.

R. Carlos and M. Saldago are getting old... I need to find substitute for them as soon as possible. Raul Bravo just so-so only. So far, Cristiano Ronaldo haven't show me that I paid the right value for him. Anyway, only played 2 games after the transfer tongue.gif. Will hunt for defenders and more young players in the next transfer. Haven't check out yet... smile.gif

This post has been edited by vearn27: Sep 26 2005, 07:04 PM
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Hehe.. in my patched version of WE9 *I did it myself tongue.gif*, already got some latest transfers and Owen already went to Newcastle. He's good... fast... but sometime lack of accuracy. Anyway, what version that u r playing? In WE9, I can feel Raul is much better than the WE8I or WE8LE Raul. In the other way, I feel Ronaldo is lacking sweat.gif... That's why Raul and Dijbril Cisse in my starting lineup smile.gif... different para perhaps laugh.gif

Beckham in the other way, he's ok for me. After all, everytime he's overrated sweat.gif. I switched him to play as RMF rather than being CMF. *give ur way to Great Steven Gerrard laugh.gif*. J. Woodgate? Still ok lar... better than Pavon, but I miss W. Samuel.

R. Carlos and M. Saldago are getting old... I need to find substitute for them as soon as possible. Raul Bravo just so-so only. So far, Cristiano Ronaldo haven't show me that I paid the right value for him. Anyway, only played 2 games after the transfer tongue.gif. Will hunt for defenders and more young players in the next transfer. Haven't check out yet... smile.gif
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WE9-PS2 with Fernando V4 patched.

Owen, yeah lacks accuracy, but in We9 he actually still improves (better growth). In WE8LE he stopped after 1-2 seasons. I'm in 2nd season now and Owens' getting sharper. As you said, Raul is much better this time round too.

Beckham i place him as CMF but plays a bit on the right (in place of KAebi).

This becoz in WE9 the chipped thru ball is dependant on skill, and Beckham in the middle allows him to spread the play better. Also scripting wise, putting your players role as CMF allows them to cover a wider range.

No cash for any big name transfers yet, probably at the end of this season. Carlos and Salgado on my blacklist already, and were going to have 'THE GREAT MADRID SALE' at the end season transfer window. thumbup.gif

As for replacements, try Orlandi/Pique at LB and Cicinho at RB. Christian Chivu also great at LB, but he's old at 24-25. I miss W.Samuel too. What were Real ever thinking when they sold him. YOu know, they only got rid of him, so that they accomodate J.Bapista/Robinho (only 3 Non-EU players in La-Liga) Since Carlos is already Spanish PR.

Yeah got my eye on Gerard too.

Cheers Vearn, have a nice weekend.

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Coming to the end of 2nd season of ML with Real.

Going into the final run I was 5 pts clear on top of the table from Barca. Played Barca in probably what was the 'title decider'.

Took and early lead with Schwarz turning home a loose ball after, Ronaldo's piledriver from the left was blocked. Got lazy, lost concentration, and let Barca back into the game when Guily scored easily, because Kompany kept backing off and not closing him down.

2nd half went forward more and took the lead again, thru a Ronaldo glancing header from a Carlos corner. However the game swung against me afterward.

Barca pushed forward with Ronaldinho, Eto and Guily tormenting my CB's constantly. They were switching play at will and I was finding it hard to cope with the movement. Barca scored 2 quick goals not long after, both 1st time volleys by Guily/Eto from Ronaldino crosses.

Score 2-3, Barca leading. Pride at stake, championship at stake. Brought on Robinho for Zidane. Replaced Kaebi with Beckham. Pushed forward more looking for an equalizer and left gaps at the back. On counter attack, Deco stole thru off a long ball from Xavi in midfield to put the game out of my reach in the last 5 mins.

Final Score Real 2 Barca 4.Barca had now closed the gap to 2 pts.

Next match played Ath. Bilbao. Was improtant to get a result to keep some distance. Some players no performing players against Barca dropped.

Took the lead again just before halftime, with Robinho curling a sidefoot shot from acute angle after being put thru by Zidane.

Was having most of the posession and the game was quite open.

Ronaldo/Robinho/Zidane blasting over/wide when having clear shots time and time again. Headers saved, easy shots coming of the post. Roaldo beat the keeper when 1v1 and then hit the side net with the goalmout gaping. Then it all came unglued.

Bilbao scored a shock equalizer from a corner with 5 mins remaining.
Again defence loss concentration and did not close down the CF arriving late at far post.

Desparately pushed forward but ran out of time to get an equalizer.

Really should have sewn this game up as Real dominated thruought but forwards seemed to have left their scoring boots at home.

Final Score 1-1

Barca in turn, had won their game and now tied with Real on 66pts. Real lie 2nd because of Barca's superior Goals Scored.

Have a feeling that the title has been lost already. There's just 4 matches to go, and REAL need to WIN ALL and hope Barca lose.

Next Fixture Div1 Cup final gainst Barca again.

Massive revamp. Changed the formation to counter Barca's.

Moved Robinho to LWF. Ronaldo as CF. Put Schwarz as ST with Beckham re-instated to a right sided CMF role. Gravesen back in as DMF.

--------Cech---------
--VD Borre---KOmpany-
Salgado--------Carlos
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----------Gravesen---
----Becckham---------
--Kaebi--------------
-------------Robinho-
-----Schwarz---------
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-----------Ronaldo---

Div1 Final new formation worked. Deeper defence contered Barca's 3 forward's of Ronaldinho, Eto And Guily. Scored 4 goals with Robinho netting 2, Schwarz 1 and Raul late in the game when coming on for Schwarz.

Sweet revenge..Sweet revenge.

Should pick up the spirits a bit, and concentrate on getting max points in the remaining League fixtures and hopefully Barca will drop a point somewhere.

Planning a big clearout at the end of the season to capitalize on getting something for the soon to be ex-galacticos.Zidane, Carlos, Becks, Raul, and Ronaldo are all on the way out.

Zidane may retire any time, so best sell him off. Ronaldos stats are dropping. Becks has been largely ineffective with my style of play. Raul doesn't score enough,and Carlos doesnt justify his high salary. So all are welcome to "THE GREAT MADRID SALE".

Should be able to net a cool 80-90K with the sale of this generation. Should pave the way for bringing in Gerard, Kaka and Adriano and other good players. Also let Schwarz get more games as he's improving tremendously. Might get Baumjohann as well, but comparitiively Schwarz is better.

That's all for now, the Real Manager now wants to spend some time with his family before the up coming final stretch over the weekend.

Adios.
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QUOTE(jiwa @ Sep 30 2005, 06:34 PM)
WE9-PS2 with Fernando V4 patched.

Owen, yeah lacks accuracy, but in We9 he actually still improves (better growth). In WE8LE he stopped after 1-2 seasons. I'm in 2nd season now and Owens' getting sharper. As you said, Raul is much better this time round too.

Beckham i place him as CMF but plays a bit on the right (in place of KAebi).

This becoz in WE9 the chipped thru ball is dependant on skill, and Beckham in the middle allows him to spread the play better. Also scripting wise, putting your players role as CMF allows them to cover a wider range.

No cash for any big name transfers yet, probably at the end of this season. Carlos and Salgado on my blacklist already, and were going to have 'THE GREAT MADRID SALE' at the end season transfer window.  thumbup.gif 

As for replacements, try Orlandi/Pique at LB and Cicinho at RB. Christian Chivu also great at LB, but he's old at 24-25. I miss W.Samuel too. What were Real ever thinking when they sold him. YOu know, they only got rid of him, so that they accomodate J.Bapista/Robinho (only 3 Non-EU players in La-Liga) Since Carlos is already Spanish PR.

Yeah got my eye on Gerard too.

Cheers Vearn, have a nice weekend.
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Plain Wemerica driving me mad with the chants as it's too lousy and I dun really like PES4 commentary *feeling regret doing it, but after all... I dunno I was patching the commentary at 1st sweat.gif*... then FIFA Commentary and Maximo Chants save my day from getting bored with WE9 thumbup.gif

From all forwards that I have: Raul, Ronaldo, Dijbril Cisse, Robinho, Thompson *acquired by trading offer to me*; Raul partnering Dijbril Cisse the best for me. Raul can play well as forward and 'backing' + 'passing' some nice balls to Dijbril Cisse to do the finishing. Raul more like a 'support forward' to me but hey, he scored quite a number of magnificent goals laugh.gif. Too bad Raul didnt managed a break thru for me before as his speed and acceleration really not that great. Cisse, in the other side playing quite well for me especially his strong, powerful and massive shots shocking.gif *I didnt believe it, frankly... I didnt believe it*... all his shots were fast, powerful and accurate. Ronaldo can't do that for me, he just can't... I tried very best to make Ronaldo in the first selection as he was before, but he couldn't score and normally when I substitued him with Cisse to play 30> minutes... Cisse scored doh.gif *in certain matches, critical goals for me*

Yupz, rather than playing as OMF and DMF, I rather play 2 CMF as they will attack and defense, covering wider range for me. At the moment, no one playing that position better than my selection of S. Gerrard and T. Gravesen wink.gif. Looking forward to dump Baptista and Guti for other players. As back-up and substitute, I got I. Helguera to cover for me *although only T. Gravesen position*, else I'll bring Beckham down to S. Gerrard place when he's resting and play C. Ronaldo on the right and Park Si Jung will be on the left. So actually it's quite important to get player with many roles as they can just slot in anytime smile.gif.

Ok... I'm going to add ur recommendations to my shopping list thumbup.gif
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Sweet revenge... just sweet revenge and a nice one wink.gif

But I didnt have any problem with Barca, all the time I'll be trashing them tongue.gif. Meet 3 times in Div. 1 cup (H/A) and the league. They normally start with 2 forwards and then only play 3 forwards in the 2nd half when they couldn't get the net. Once switched to 3 forwards, they'll have problem defending in their half laugh.gif.. more shots coming after their GK.

I couldn't remember which teams, but playing against Liverpool and Arsenal just damm hard for me especially Arsenal. They just keep on pressure on the ball and I couldn't pass it around nicely... but thankx I drew with them sweat.gif. I only getting 2 Shot On Goal in the match against Arsenal and they're like 9 ~ 10 shocking.gif.. I hardly get the ball playing beyond my 2nd half.. perhaps it's my formation didnt match to counter their formation.. after all, blame me for my laziness to change doh.gif

*note that S. Gerrard not in the game against Arsenal as he's too fatigue and Raul been called up for national duty. Ended up Cisse starting with Ronaldo and then Robinho as substitute.. sad.gif*

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Hello guys smile.gif I got one question about scoring from corner kicks .. is it possible to score from corner kicks ? .. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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i can score wit corner kicks
but not often la
sometimes only
u need a good player to take the corner kicks also
if u just use random player...the ball wont go nicely

usually i will cross the ball at head level
not so high nor so low
i target the ball to the nearest player at the goal post
i dont pick player at the back
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if u try to pass to far post it will need a bit of luck for opponent defender missheading the ball. but if u scores that goal sure coolZ laugh.gif
like ~bug~ said if u got a player near post just pass the ball to him, the possibilities to score is high. smile.gif

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laugh.gif i tried using the goalkeeper to take corner

and surprisingly, he created a goal!
wow!
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QUOTE(renji @ Oct 2 2005, 01:48 AM)
Hello guys smile.gif I got one question about scoring from corner kicks .. is it possible to score from corner kicks ? ..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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ah! you mean directly from a corner kick?
why not! i've managed that once

and I still have that replay on my mem card
Roberto Carlos swinged the corner that went right into goal laugh.gif

also another replay on my mem card, is WE7, when Ronaldo crossed for Beckham, and Becks tried for a diving header, missed, and hits Barthez, and hits Beckham's foot while he was flying

SCORPION KICK! notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Sheep319 @ Oct 2 2005, 01:27 PM)
ah! you mean directly from a corner kick?
why not! i've managed that once

and I still have that replay on my mem card
Roberto Carlos swinged the corner that went right into goal laugh.gif

also another replay on my mem card, is WE7, when Ronaldo crossed for Beckham, and Becks tried for a diving header, missed, and hits Barthez, and hits Beckham's foot while he was flying

SCORPION KICK! notworthy.gif
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HELLO GUYS..


CAN U TELL ME HOW TO PATCH WE9 OR PES5..


and wut toolls needed..

i find thu other website but the instructiion quite PENING..

ANYNOE CAN HELP ME
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QUOTE(Sheep319 @ Oct 2 2005, 01:27 PM)
ah! you mean directly from a corner kick?
why not! i've managed that once

and I still have that replay on my mem card
Roberto Carlos swinged the corner that went right into goal laugh.gif

also another replay on my mem card, is WE7, when Ronaldo crossed for Beckham, and Becks tried for a diving header, missed, and hits Barthez, and hits Beckham's foot while he was flying

SCORPION KICK! notworthy.gif
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Only scored direct from CK once. That was in WE8:LE. When I try , sometimes can come close. I usually use O+R2 and with Beckham. Have not tried it in WE9 yet.

But for normal CK's, I can score quite often. But to all those who want tips, let me say there are NO sure ways to score. It's all comes down to knowing the controls well. Both in terms of executing the various types of corners (ie. High, low, medium, pacey, lofty,short corner) and practice finishing, getting your timing of when to press SQUARE right.

Every corner kick is different as your players line up differently each time. Mix it up with near, mid and far post corners. Sometimes taking a short corner, and whipping it in from a slightly different angle is all it tkaes to wrongfoot the defence.

Also knowing what direction presses give you what kind of shot. If you're near 6yrd box, better get downward headers, as anything else is more likely to go over.

Outswinging to top of the box and fininshing with a volley are also possible, but very dependent on 'shooter' stats.

In WE/PES the worlds you oyster, and how you socre, is really dependant on how creative you are, and how good a 'footballing' brain you have.

Oh yeah, to add, agressive use of R2 and/or super cancel is quite helpful if you want to increase your conversion rate.

Cheers mates.
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Well, 2nd season of ML is now over.

Real gave their all with 4 wins out of 4 on the final stretch. 2-0, 3-1, 4-0, 5-0. HIgh scoring to improve the goal differece. Hoping that Barca would drop a point somewhere. But never happened; Barca presevered and had finished the last match with a narrow 1-0 win against Valencia. Overall they did just enough to clinch the title.

Real has to settle for 2nd place. Can't fault the lads though, they gave it their all in the last few matches. Its just that 1 game (against Bilbao) immediatly after defeat to Barca, that turned the season. If we had taken 3pts there Real would be champs. Anyway, its now time to look on to the next season of with onset of CL football.

As palnned by the mangaer, the end season "GREAT MADRID SALE' was underway. Hoping to clear out some non-performing Galacticos.

Kept getting rejected by Adriano, he's just not interested in coming here. Raul played very well in the last 3 matches getting 4 goals. But in the end he was off to Milan in long planned swap deal for Kaka.

Zidane was off to Ajax for Wesly Sneidjer. Aslo got Romanian Christian Chivu from an Italian club I think.

No takers for other Galacticos as well. Got Baumjohann from Shalke04. Exchanged Guti. Baumy only as a backup for Schwarz who has blossomed into a great target man at the yong age of 18. Forsee only great things for him.

Team played well in friendlies almost every week of the off-season. Not too happy with Robinho's contribution as he's too lighweight to compete when going against tougher teams. Baumjohhan got 4 goals, with Schwarz top scoring with 7 goals. Believe it 7 goals and loads of assists. Overall scored about 20 goals in the friendlies. Highest score was a 6-0 demolition of Portsmouth.

Most younsters developing well. Ronaldo manages to arrest his slide in form, with some good work in off season training.

New formation to accommodate some new players;
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First match of new season. Against Real Sociedad. Struggled to find footing. With new players and changes roles. Going behind to 2 goals in 1st half. Both again due to defences not covering well.

Anyhow stuck with it and got and back a goal from Owen in the 2nd half. Ran on dianoally across the box to poke in a thru pass from Becks.

Moved Kaka into an more advanced role on the left side of midfield. Had very few chances as Real Sociadads defence was marking very tight.

Last minute, Kaka put thru by Beckham. Instead of going on, as he would have been closed down , he cut back and out off to side the box. Thought the chance had gone. But Kaka turened his marker and manged to get an superb inswinging cross to the far post which Ronaldo just manged to get a head to. Difficult header as he was marked and made contact while backing away. Ball just made in in past the foot of the far post. Crowed and palyers erupted in a frenzy, with everyone joining in to congratulate Ronaldo. 2-2; Real have drawn level.

Had another chance with Baumjohann boke free on the right in the closing seconds, but keeper manages to save. Corner was uneventful.

Kudos to the boys for showing great determination and fighting spirit.

Also glad to see that the off-season training has paid of. Schwarz is now more confident player, and has developed a vicious left foot. His strength and balance means he'll rarely gets pushed off the ball. And he's great in the air at 1.90m with good header and jump stats. His lack of pace, passing and dibbling ability will be worked on by the coaches in next season. He's still young and the mangers predict even greater things for hime next year.

As for the League, its early days yet, but Real happy with the point for now.

Looking forward to next weekend's matches.

Cheers.

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post Oct 3 2005, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Sheep319 @ Oct 2 2005, 01:27 PM)
ah! you mean directly from a corner kick?
why not! i've managed that once

and I still have that replay on my mem card
Roberto Carlos swinged the corner that went right into goal laugh.gif

also another replay on my mem card, is WE7, when Ronaldo crossed for Beckham, and Becks tried for a diving header, missed, and hits Barthez, and hits Beckham's foot while he was flying

SCORPION KICK! notworthy.gif
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Can u please show me how do u score the goals maybe some clips please smile.gif ..

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Now I'm in nearly the end of the season with 5 more matches to go... the Div. 1 Cup Final against Manchester United and also 4 league matches left with big name Arsenal and Liverpool in them.

Now ranked 4th in da league with a huge different points gap from the top spot. Even 3rd rank is 5 points and 2nd rank is 7 points above me. Pretty bad season with a lot of draws and 5 lost. However, managed to make it into the Div. 1 Cup Final and will against Manchester United, a final chance for a silverware this season.

In the league, I lost once *if not mistaken, else draw* and won once against Man U, the current league leader. They're playing 1 CF and 2 WGs against me. Crowded the midfields in the middle and I'm forced to do side attacks. Their players keep on pressuring on the ball. Once my player got the ball, 2~3 players will close down and gotta back dribble or find a way to pass. I remember I had a bad time with them *coz I seldom play, couldn't remember much tongue.gif*, but managed to play a 1-0 win against them in 2nd meeting in league game. Raul managed to intercept a loose back pass and then Van Der Sar was out from da penalty box.. too bad I can't see him earlier else I would had scored from nearly half field laugh.gif, somehow then run forward with the ball and saw Van Der Sar running back toward his goal, then Raul hit the low post with a powerful low drive thumbup.gif.

The 5th lost of the season was against the 2nd spot in league, Chelsea, 2-0. Dammit, I just couldn't fully maximize the position and performance of Steven Gerrard. Gotta change my formation from time to time to find the best one. Although there's no solid one best formation against all teams, but I'm just looking for the common starting one smile.gif. Barca, which ranked 3rd in the league in the other way get thrashed all the time when meeting Real biggrin.gif. For all 4 meetings in this season *Div. 1 Cup Quater-Final*, Barca lost 2 goals and above each time. The latest meeting pretty bad to them, a midfielder red-carded after 8 minutes of playing for sliding from behind and then Beckham hit the net from free kick. Later in the game, Raul was brought down in the box and then he hit the net from the spot.

Will be looking forward to give all out against Man U for the Div. 1 Cup trophy and then the 2 league matches against Arsenal and Liverpool. Although they're ranked below Real in the league, somehow they're still good teams to play against with.
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First few games of the new season. Still looking for my first win.

After coming from back for a draw against Real Sociadad, havent been going great yet.

2nd match was gainst Villareal CF. Forlan was not playing so I fancied our chances.

Change the formation to play with wide players hopefully to stretch the Villareal defence. CF in Ronaldo. Schwarz paltyed as deep supporting forward. Put Kaka as LMF and Becks at RMF. Xavi and Baptista in MF roles.

Didnt work out. Had a lot of possesion in 1/3 and 2/3 of the field. Last 3rd always closed down. Schwarz had a lot of possesion but couldnt make the best of it, since his passing game isn't that good yet. His balls to Ronaldo were often intercepted or misplaced. Kaka was playing too wide and not supporting play enough. Beckham was drifting in too much, and I think was being dbl marked. Could smell a draw already.

Went behind midway thru the first half, cross came in and Cassilas punched it out, but only as far to the top of the box. Ball was loose, and Salgado rushed in to clear. Somehow he clattered into the Villareal player and to everyone's suprise the ref blew for a PK.

Cassilas guessed the wrong way from Riquelme shot which was driven into the bottom right corner.

Villareal 1- 0 Real.

Angry at the SB's for not closing down the play. Couldnn't find any headway becos was offence closed down tightly all across the pitch.

2nd half got an equalizer. Long ball from MF found Ronaldo at the top of the box with his back to goal. He spotted Schwarz making a run from deep. In one move he controlled the ball and turned the defender. (R2+dir) Shot was not on for him, but he played a delicate thru ball into Schwarz's path. Although Schwarz was being shadowed and wrong-side of the defender, he managed to check his run and intercept the ball (super cancel + cut in). Just in time, although under pressure Schwarz finished with a well placed curler on his left foot from inside the six yard box. Thought the game had changed. After that wasted a few oportunities when Beckhams crosses not converted by both Ronaldo and Schwarz.

Villareal regained the lead shortly after. Salgado was in possession of the ball on the right. Wasted time and tried to dribble past the approcahing forward. Ball got stuck and the forward passed to his teamate in the box. Cassilas came in to close, but the rebound fell to another lurking player who stroked into and empty goal from 12 yrds out.

Concede another penalty when Kompany fouled anotehr player inside the bbox. Riqulme stepped up again. Already new Riquelme style, and Cassilas geussed right this time. He gave us a lifeline but in the end we didn't manage to score.

Real lose 1-2.

Next game against Valencia CF. Real need to start winning. Revert back to a traditional flat 4-4-2. Valencia was swamping the midfield with 5 men. Although had a few chances, both defences were on top. It was a scrappy game with many fouls through out from both sides.

Boring game with only a couple of clear chances but these were wasted by the forwards.Only chances after this were from set-pieces.

Schwarz came close with a powerful grounder after Beckham had layed it off for him. In the end it sailed just wide of the post. Xavi had another FK attempt from closer, cleared the wall headed to the top right corner and all, but eventually not enough pace to trouble the keeper. Schwarz had another FK form central location, but was intercepted by DF on the far post.

In the end a dissapointing 0-0 draw. The fans were not pleased at all and the manager must work hard to intergrate the new palyers (Kaka/Xavi) into the new team/style quickly.

On the other hand, Barca maintained their 100% record and are now leading the league. Real will play Barca in 3 matches time. After that will embark on WEFA matches. MUst gets some wins under our belt to build some confidence before that.

Report after this weekends league matches.

Cheerz all

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Yo jiwa, it seem like both of us have the same interest. Like taking WE into real-time football gaming thumbup.gif. Last time I did post before in the WE8LE thread and some ppl just saying I'm enjoying myself putting up story like that... but somehow, I feel like I'm happy saying all these and during the game, I really wish I could share my experience with other WE fanatic fans.

There was a thread like this in Evo-Web.. but in the end it's more like flaming rather than anything else.. those ppl criticising on buying good players shakehead.gif.. after all, this is game.. How on world that Real fans wish to has Stevie G in their lineup laugh.gif.. game make all fantasy to be real tongue.gif

Enjoyz~! cool.gif

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Thanks vearn, also post some on evo-web too. IMO there are too many eogistic nuts there who'll just argue for the sake of arguing. Kingpug he.he.

Anyway I just post my experience for fun, based on my my 'virtual' experiece as manager of Real.

I really don't botther criticise ppl, because the point of ML is that everyone is a manager, and they can paly it how they see fit. Maybe just share some tips here and there.

Afterall, I retain Owen in Real, and no matter what anyone says, I'll keep him there, since I'm the manager and I decide. Just like selling Zidane, Raul. Don't give a rats ass what anyone thinks, its my decision.

Cheer mate, and have a good weekend. (I need to find 3-4 hrs to paly this weekend he.he without intteruptions)


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Yup... those ppl there got NBTD shakehead.gif.. well, as u said.. it's my decision and likeness to have all great players in my lineup and bench, it doens't give a f**k for them to ruin my fun with the game. After all, it's basically individual's preference nod.gif

Another sad case is in Evo-Web, even patch makers also kena flamed doh.gif *hey, c'mon lah.. they're doing it for free and then kena shoot back pulak shocking.gif*..

Too bad, in my patch and OF, Owen already went to Newcastle and he's doing good there. Although not in the starting lineup, but yet still 2nd top scorer in da league and same spot with Raul. Just another goal to gain the same position as top scorer tongue.gif. Base on my experience playing with Owen, he's good and my favorite pair with Henry in WE7I. But then getting lack of accuracy but yet the pace is still there in WE8 and WE9. It's good if he's already in ur team, but not really a good idea to buy him if he's not. For his value, there's a lot better choices smile.gif

Zidane, really helped a lot in attacking and my key player to gain from Div.2 to Div.1 during my first season with Real Madrid. Although he's slow, but his dribbling skill easily get the defenders out of his way. Not to mention his powerful shoot and also accuracy... can even do bicycle kick volley *oh mine~! shocking.gif --> laugh.gif*.. But then, his lack of stamina brought him down. Fatigue easily and only will be playing for last 2 seasons before retire. So, I sold him to fund for Stevie G thumbup.gif..

In the beginning, Stevie G influence much on the attacking but due to my stupidness, I'm not getting any juice from him with his current position and preference in attack directions. Gotta change my formation.. sad.gif

Still thinking whether to let go Ronaldo and Robinho for other wingers and forwards unsure.gif.. not really helping to get the ball behind opponent's goal line sad.gif.. In another way, I'm glad I didnt let go Ivan Helguera, he's excellent in midfield. U should try him once or twice wink.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 8 2005, 01:18 PM)
Yup... those ppl there got NBTD shakehead.gif.. well, as u said.. it's my decision and likeness to have all great players in my lineup and bench, it doens't give a f**k for them to ruin my fun with the game. After all, it's basically individual's preference nod.gif

Another sad case is in Evo-Web, even patch makers also kena flamed doh.gif *hey, c'mon lah.. they're doing it for free and then kena shoot back pulak shocking.gif*..

Too bad, in my patch and OF, Owen already went to Newcastle and he's doing good there. Although not in the starting lineup, but yet still 2nd top scorer in da league and same spot with Raul. Just another goal to gain the same position as top scorer tongue.gif. Base on my experience playing with Owen, he's good and my favorite pair with Henry in WE7I. But then getting lack of accuracy but yet the pace is still there in WE8 and WE9. It's good if he's already in ur team, but not really a good idea to buy him if he's not. For his value, there's a lot better choices smile.gif

Zidane, really helped a lot in attacking and my key player to gain from Div.2 to Div.1 during my first season with Real Madrid. Although he's slow, but his dribbling skill easily get the defenders out of his way. Not to mention his powerful shoot and also accuracy... can even do bicycle kick volley *oh mine~! shocking.gif --> laugh.gif*.. But then, his lack of stamina brought him down. Fatigue easily and only will be playing for last 2 seasons before retire. So, I sold him to fund for Stevie G thumbup.gif..

In the beginning, Stevie G influence much on the attacking but due to my stupidness, I'm not getting any juice from him with his current position and preference in attack directions. Gotta change my formation.. sad.gif

Still thinking whether to let go Ronaldo and Robinho for other wingers and forwards unsure.gif.. not really helping to get the ball behind opponent's goal line sad.gif.. In another way, I'm glad I didnt let go Ivan Helguera, he's excellent in midfield. U should try him once or twice wink.gif
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Yeah the most ridiculous thing is patchers getting flamed. People put in so much hard work, also kena temabk cukup-cukup. Then some ppl got the guts to ask, to change the menu background lah, change the music lah.

As for players, vearn, maybe take a look closely at you development charts to base your decision. Also take not of age/remaining contract time. I also look at salary a lot, since once you move to higher level of difficulty you can't win the league/cups/wefa every time. So, keeping a healthy cashflow is important.

All comment based on my WE9:

Owen, is still improving but will start decline in 2-3 years. WIth good and varied training, I have managed to keep his growth above normal the development chart (ie. he's improved more than he should).

As you said, Zidane is great but Stamina sucks big-time. Even training don't help much. And his contract is going to expire, might as well get something for him, and get a new player with lower salary.

Ronaldo is on the decline, albeit a slow gradual one. You can't help by training, since we can't stop decline i all areas.

Robinho is growing and he's peak is about 25-26yrs i think. So I play him sometimes, but he's not a regular 1st eleven (unlike real life). IN a couple of years should be better.

For new players, (Like ur Stevie G), check the teamwork %. 2 thing to check.
1- The players twk %.
2. Team work rating with other players in Formatiion screen. At 'Individual' either select 'Attack' or 'Edit Position' Then toggle Triangle to switch the formation scrrent ill you can see lines between each player. The % number tell you how good the understanding is between players.

Play the same group together long enough, and the number will rise. As this number rises, in-game the runs these palyers make will be more accurate to recieve passes between each other. Another place you can look at the passes between palyers is the post match details screen. This is a great feature of WE/PES that is sometimes not understood. For CF is not very important, since the need just to finish, but for OMF,CMF it realy makes a difference.

MOst of us don't look at this screen often enough. But analysing your performance is key to getting the best out of the formation/tactics we set. YOu can get so much info here. For instance I once notice that my CF fatigued easily. Upon checking he was all over the pitch, and tracking back too much. Then I realised it was because how I set my offnece and defence arrows. Also Noticed his zones overlapped with the OMF and therefore had 2 players crowding the same space. Tweak a little and coverage was so much better, and he's not tired out so much.


Back to palyers; since I don't play with default ML team, but Match Mode players, first thing I do is look at the development charts. Then Transfer list all those who are on the decline. Problem is in Konami's games, you cant TRADE players that are transfer listed. So keep the big earners off the transfer list and use them to trade. Another thing I dont like is only 1 for 1 trades. I mean I want to get a good player, but I cant offer 2 of my players for him.

Cheers vearn
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HEy guys....y not try buyin 2nd rated players to play the game. It will be much more challengin and nice

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yaya.. i have try to buy all asia player b4....... all my team player is from asia 1..... Beat the europe champion like Ac Milan r feeling nice !!!
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The feeling of satisfaction is really unbelievable. hehe laugh.gif
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In the end of my 2nd season with Real Madrid, won the Div. 1 Cup against Manchester United with a slim 2-1 win. Then in the final 4 matches of the league, won against big club Arsenal 1-0 but lost to Liverpool 2-1 *final match of da season cry.gif*.

Thru the negotiation period.. *aiks.. dunno who to buy, so in the end much influenced by Jiwa's recommendations and players tongue.gif*.. Traded a few players, R. Carlos for Ashley Cole and few other players (couldn't remember doh.gif). Secured the service of Kaka (MF), Frabegas (CMF), Chive (SB), Kompany (CB), Marshall (GK) and then my new formation and line up:

------------------------------------ Ronaldo/Cisse (CF)--------------------------
----------------------- Raul (CF) -------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------ Beckham (RMF) -----
----- Kaka (LMF) -----------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------- S. Gerrard (CMF) -------------------
------------------------ Gravesen (CMF) ----------------------------------------
----- Ashley Cole (LSB) ------------------------------------ Chivu (RSB) -----
-------------------- S. Ramos (CB) ----- J. Woodgate (CB) ------------------
------------------------------- Cassilas (GK) -------------------------------------

Substitutes:
Either Ronaldo or Cisse will be on the bench (CF)
Robinho (SMF)
C. Ronaldo (SMF)
Park Si Jung (SMF)
Guti (CMF)
Frabegas (CMF)
J. Baptisa (CMF)
M. Saldago (SB)
Raul Bravo (SB)
I. Helguera (CB/CMF)
Kompany (CB)
Marshall (GK)
*dunno still got left out any or not tongue.gif - really seldom play these days sweat.gif*

moved to 6 stars difficulties

In the beginning of the season, Steven Gerrard was at top form scoring 3 goals in 2 matches. Perhaps this new formation helped in overall team performance. First game of the season against a big club (forgot name again doh.gif) and Raul opened his scoring sheet of the season. Soon later the goal was equalised, but S. Gerrard reclaim the lead with a spectacular left foot volley from freekick (just like the one he scored against Chelsea laugh.gif). Then, into Champions League playoff and once again S. Gerrard showed the value that paid for him during transfer.. Scored all 2 goals against A. Madrid, nearly hattrick summore thumbup.gif.. but sad case is that he's limping off the field after 60 minutes of play - kena slided from behind doh.gif

Stevie G received minor injury and need to be rested for one week. Then played few matches more but couldn't remember who and the score when I'm typing this sweat.gif.. But one thing, selection between Ronaldo and Cisse really crucial now. Dijbril Cisse showing he's good scoring at least one goal in all 4 last matches of last season. However, he's struggling in the beginning of the season but Ronaldo stealed his show by showing impressive run and scored few goals. Yet both of them not really as stable as Raul yet.

A week later, Steven Gerrard recovered and I put him on the field immediately.. (oh mine, what a stupid decision doh.gif), he discovered injury during half-time and then need to be rested for 2 weeks. Guti, Frabegas or Baptisa hardly fill his position. Forced to lost and draw once in the league sad.gif

*that's all I can remember for now, adios smile.gif*

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QUOTE(jiwa @ Oct 10 2005, 11:02 AM)
Yeah the most ridiculous thing is patchers getting flamed. People put in so much hard work, also kena temabk cukup-cukup. Then some ppl got the guts to ask, to change the menu background lah, change the music lah.

As for players,  vearn, maybe take a look closely at you development charts to base your decision. Also take not of age/remaining contract time. I also look at salary a lot, since once you move to higher level of difficulty you can't win the league/cups/wefa every time. So, keeping a healthy cashflow is important.

All comment  based on my WE9:

Owen, is still improving but will start decline in 2-3 years. WIth good and varied training, I have managed to keep his growth above normal the development chart (ie. he's improved more than he should).

As you said, Zidane is great but Stamina sucks big-time. Even training don't help much. And his contract is going to expire, might as well get something for him, and get a new player with lower salary.

Ronaldo is on the decline, albeit a slow gradual one. You can't help by training, since we can't stop decline i all areas.

Robinho is growing and he's peak is about 25-26yrs i think. So I play him sometimes, but he's not a regular 1st eleven (unlike real life). IN a couple of years should be better.

For new players, (Like ur Stevie G), check the teamwork %. 2 thing to check.
1- The players twk %.
2. Team work rating with other players in Formatiion screen. At 'Individual' either select 'Attack' or 'Edit Position' Then toggle Triangle to switch the formation scrrent ill you can see lines between each player. The % number tell you how good the understanding is between players.

Play the same group together long enough, and the number will rise. As this number rises, in-game the runs these palyers make will be more accurate to recieve passes between each other.  Another place you can look at the passes between palyers is the post match details screen. This is a great feature of WE/PES that is sometimes not understood. For CF is not very important, since the need just to finish, but for OMF,CMF it realy makes a difference.

MOst of us don't look at this screen often enough. But analysing your performance is key to getting the best out of the formation/tactics we set. YOu can get so much info here. For instance I once notice that my CF fatigued easily. Upon checking he was  all over the pitch, and tracking back too much. Then I realised it was because how I set my offnece and defence arrows. Also Noticed his zones overlapped with the OMF and therefore had 2 players crowding the same space. Tweak a little and coverage was so much better, and he's not tired out so much.
Back to palyers; since I don't play with default ML team, but Match Mode players, first thing I do is look at the development charts. Then Transfer list all those who are on the decline. Problem is in Konami's games, you cant TRADE players that are transfer listed. So keep the big earners off the transfer list and use them to trade. Another thing I dont like is only 1 for 1 trades. I mean I want to get a good player, but I cant offer 2 of my players for him.

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Yupz.. those ppl not contributing any but asking a lot of thingy.. it's like the patchers deserve to do it for them.. Hey, c'mon~! They got their life too.. The big voice, Reefur also chao and open up a forum of his own doh.gif

Hm... I did look at the salary (but it's pointless later coz I'll hav a bunch of points sweat.gif) when searching for players but didnt really look thou to their development chart unsure.gif

Thankx for ur advise... will look thru it thumbup.gif
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This game is better played in PS2 or PC..?

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im playing Master League wit 3 Star difficulties rite now
can i change it to 6 Star without creating a new game ?
cos im already in 3rd season wit loads of good players in my squad
so dont want to start it all over again
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im playing Master League wit 3 Star difficulties rite now
can i change it to 6 Star without creating a new game ?
cos im already in 3rd season wit loads of good players in my squad
so dont want to start it all over again
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U can change during off season *negotiation period during the end of the season* smile.gif
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thanx vearn smile.gif

seems like i have to play another season wit 3 star
cos i just start a new season last nite
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i think u guys better create a blog about master league that u played biggrin.gif...btw...how is fabregas in this game?? still very good as in previous WE?
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seems like i have to play another season wit 3 star
cos i just start a new season last nite
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Yupz, no problem wink.gif

Last time (back to PES3 and WE7), I trained myself to get beyond 3 goals and above each game before moving to the highest difficulty wink.gif.. few matches scored above 10 goals as well in 3 stars laugh.gif

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i think u guys better create a blog about master league that u played biggrin.gif...btw...how is fabregas in this game?? still very good as in previous WE?
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QUOTE(hardyboyz888 @ Oct 12 2005, 05:26 PM)
This game is better played in PS2 or PC..?
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PS2 for me. Its the platform the game was designed for. All others are just ports. However with PC you may get better graphics resolution.. However tuning the game to variety of system specs and h/w config can be a pain. With PS2 just pop in in and play as it was designed.

Must add though, patching is a breeze on PC.

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QUOTE(jiwa @ Oct 14 2005, 01:10 PM)
PS2 for me. Its the platform the game was designed for. All others are just ports. However with PC you may get better graphics resolution.. However tuning the game to variety of system specs and h/w config can be a pain. With PS2 just pop in in and play as it was designed.

Must add though, patching is a breeze on PC.

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Another additional pro for com, they can play on9 thou thumbup.gif

That's why I'm getting myself a PS2 Controller to PC adapter so that I can use my PS2 Controller to play the game on PC for on9 games. But I'm still wondering thou whether the controls and response will be the same like PS2 unsure.gif..

When talking about patching, there's also a lot of patching work done for PS2.. but so far Reefur (the best I tried) haven't release their patch for WE9 and still in the making of the translation (pretty sad but we couldn't ask for more, they're doing it for free wink.gif).. When talking about hardware bottleneck, actually WE8 already taken up more it can from PS2, that's why the lagging problem appeared.. however, it's then fixed when WE9 released. I'm pretty sad when enjoying WE8 back then due to the lagging.. which spoil the fun a lot especially during corner taking, free kick or in da penalty box.. For that reason, I bought myself a PS2 Network Adapter so that I can load the game into HDD and well, it's much faster then thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 15 2005, 10:07 AM)
Another additional pro for com, they can play on9 thou thumbup.gif

That's why I'm getting myself a PS2 Controller to PC adapter so that I can use my PS2 Controller to play the game on PC for on9 games. But I'm still wondering thou whether the controls and response will be the same like PS2 unsure.gif..

When talking about patching, there's also a lot of patching work done for PS2.. but so far Reefur (the best I tried) haven't release their patch for WE9 and still in the making of the translation (pretty sad but we couldn't ask for more, they're doing it for free wink.gif).. When talking about hardware bottleneck, actually WE8 already taken up more it can from PS2, that's why the lagging problem appeared.. however, it's then fixed when WE9 released. I'm pretty sad when enjoying WE8 back then due to the lagging.. which spoil the fun a lot especially during corner taking, free kick or in da penalty box.. For that reason, I bought myself a PS2 Network Adapter so that I can load the game into HDD and well, it's much faster then thumbup.gif
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No lah vearn, the WE8 is first attempt at online code. Not fine tuned yet. Thats why lagging. With PES5 should be tuned out already. I thought you needed 'ori' to play online, else you get kicked off/banned.

I hate lagging/slowdown. I don't mind if some of the graphics are toned down like stadium banners and such as long as gameplay is smooth. Smooth but not too fast I must add.

As for online, fun as it may be,I feel there are lot of cheaters online, who for me really spoil the fun of playing. Unless can find like minded 'kaki', I rather call my buddies over to my place, and have some decent multiplayer via the multitap. Too bad now I'm in Penang, cannot find any serious players yet. The few that I've met play on PC. If in KL, different story, many of my old kaki there.

Thats why this Raya, going down for some serious WW/PES gametime with my cousins/friends. Got 2 multitaps ready, so should have some real fun 3v3.


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No lah vearn, the WE8 is first attempt at online code. Not fine tuned yet. Thats why lagging. With PES5 should be tuned out already. I thought you needed 'ori' to play online, else you get kicked off/banned.

I hate lagging/slowdown. I don't mind if some of the graphics are toned down like stadium banners and such as long as gameplay is smooth. Smooth but not too fast I must add.

As for online, fun as it may be,I feel  there are lot of cheaters online, who for me really spoil the fun of playing. Unless can find like minded 'kaki', I rather call my buddies over to my place, and have some decent multiplayer via the multitap. Too bad now I'm in Penang, cannot find any serious players yet. The few that I've met play on PC. If in KL, different story, many of my old kaki there.

Thats why this Raya, going down for some serious WW/PES gametime with my cousins/friends. Got 2 multitaps ready, so should have some real fun 3v3.
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Eh.. I thought it's the graphic in WE8 that made the game lagging when a lot of players crowded on the screen? This problem then can be solved by installing the game into HDD as HDD load faster than a DVD on PS2 unsure.gif.. in WE8LE *which has on9 mode too*, the lagging problem already fixed a bit but since then I already started to load the game from HDD via PS2 to play thumbup.gif (loading is much faster)

Yupz.. I too hate slowdown or lagging that really spoil the fun of the game.. earlier I didnt move to WE8 and stay with WE7I bcoz of the slowdown or lagging issue. Later then only I moved to WE8LE when it's released and I bought myself a PS2 Network Adapter to play the game on HDD tongue.gif *I also started my WE patching since then laugh.gif*.

Pace in the game is really another thing, it's more accurate and realistic this time around in WE9 compared to WE8LE. Not too fast and not too slow, really suit a soccer game well. Players response also needed to be judge correctly else the ball going loose biggrin.gif
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hey, seeing you guys especially jiwa writing all your PES/WE game "report" looks like fun, lemme write mine tongue.gif

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Div 1 cup Final (MU vs Arsenal)

Clinical finishing from United brought Arsenal to their knees with goals from Park and Rooney.

A night which the boys from Manchester wasn't playing their usual attacking strides were on the defence with sporatic counter-attacks which are few but lethal and dangerous most of the time.

With Giggs returning to the left after weeks of injury. Scholes surprisingly was on the starting line-up even though the lad from Korea(Park) was United's top scorer in the D1 cup.

1st half was pretty much a stalemate with both clubs trading blows. Arsenal doing the slow build up and pressurising while United did the counter attacks with Rooney harassing the defence.

2nd half started with United substituting the ineffective Scholes with Park. Arsenal came out with a bang when Henry's long range drive send the ball inches wide while another free kick few minutes later flew past the post with United breathing a sigh of relieve. That however was short live when on the 62 minute, Ljunberg was darting from the left cutting across the middle and superbly send a through pass towards Pires, although Keane did a tackle on Ljunberg and the referee correctly gave the signal to "play on", Pires made no mistake by intelligently toe poked the ball to Van der Sar's left and into the net.

The goal somewhat spured United to go on the offensive with Park playing a more forward role and Rooney playing just in front of Park. With Rooney missed a 1 on 1 chance in the 70 minute. It was though it was to be Arsenals night. However, the offensive finally paid of when Keane passed the ball from the half way line and picked up Park who was poorly marked and the Korean volleyed in the equalizer pass the hapless Arsenal goalkeeper.

Just when Arsenal was picking themself up after the scorching equalizer by Park, Rooney scored another goal after a brilliant 1-2 with Nistelrooy and the young lad didn't make the same mistake twice when he drilled home the winner in the 75 minute.

The remainder of the match saw United playing with a 5 men midfield with Rooney playing as an offensive midfield role and Park playing deeper to provide cover for United's defence. Arsenal continue to be on the attack but United held firm till the final wistle.

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Hm... it seem that Park really 'effective' on the field providing most goals for ur club, alienLYN smile.gif

I had him in my team too, but not the first lineup anymore after Kaka was in. The most I played him on the left or the right, he really got the pace to run the ball forward down the 2 flanks to provide opportunities of scoring. However, I didnt feel any other better from him other than his pace.. (perhaps I didnt play him for other position around sad.gif)..

So far, he only scored 2 goals for my club for the time 1 season ++ he's here.. which is twice in a match. Only one match he scored by other mean.. Kaka also haven't provide any goal since the transfer for more than 10 matches he's in the first lineup.. But well, it could be my formation because my right is more important than my left with Beckham is there nod.gif
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He surprisingly scores quite a few in the D1 Cup but not in the league. Still has headache in where to put him(LM? RM? AM?). Usually use him in matches except big games (Arsenal, Chelsea etc), than i'll use the old guard(Giggs, Scholes) tongue.gif

I have a questoin bout crossings in PES 5, is there any difference compared to PES4? i seem to not able to score with crossing and corners huh.gif
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QUOTE(alienLYN @ Oct 19 2005, 03:56 PM)
He surprisingly scores quite a few in the D1 Cup but not in the league. Still has headache in where to put him(LM? RM? AM?). Usually use him in matches except big games (Arsenal, Chelsea etc), than i'll use the old guard(Giggs, Scholes)  tongue.gif

I have a questoin bout crossings in PES 5, is there any difference compared to PES4? i seem to not able to score with crossing and corners  huh.gif
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Icic.. that's why I love this game a lot.. many unpredictable thingy thumbup.gif *really like real life, sometime player's performance depend on season also nod.gif*

Just like Ronaldo in my club, for the 1st and 2nd season, he barely score or penetrate the opponent's defence. Always lost possesion of the ball or failed to shot.. then Dijbril Cisse whom I bought in the 2nd season perform very impressively. He can score quite well, although still not good enough to dribble to drive in, but the range within the penalty box... just hit the [SQUARE] and there's a high chance of scoring. He able to kick powerful and accurate blow.

Then I put him to the 1st lineup and drop Ronaldo, in the final 4 matches of 2nd season.. Cisse still adding up to his score sheet in each match. Then when it came to 3rd season (which I'm playing now), he become what happened to Ronaldo. Failed to score and hold possesion of the ball each time.. then substituted with Ronaldo and even making Ronaldo in the 1st lineup, he scored very well shocking.gif (I mean Ronaldo).. wahaha.. that's why I really love this game thumbup.gif

Now I'm confused whether to start with Ronaldo or Cisse each time, playing them as rotation now. Raul still the best at the moment. Although sick of his pace, but then he wouldn't disappoint u from scoring biggrin.gif
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vearn27, wana ask... the regulate training options. What about it? how does it work? some times after i press it, my players become blue arrow(which means low stamina rite? i dont really know what all those arrow thingy means. Just that red means gud and blue means no gud tongue.gif )
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QUOTE(alienLYN @ Oct 19 2005, 09:35 PM)
vearn27, wana ask... the regulate training options. What about it? how does it work? some times after i press it, my players become blue arrow(which means low stamina rite? i dont really know what all those arrow thingy means. Just that red means gud and blue means no gud  tongue.gif )
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The 'regulate training option' is to 're-adjust' ur player's condition (or normally we said the 'form' of a player in life tongue.gif). The arrows show pretty easy understandable which 'arrow pointing up' [RED] is the BEST form or condition of that player and 'arrow pointing down' [GRAY] is the WORST. Normal condition is 'arrow pointing horizontally' [GREEN].. where then [YELLOW] is better and [BLUE] is worse. It then effect the player's performance in the game where like when the player is at his better form, he tend not to fatique so easily and perform better (such as running faster, more agile, shooting more powerful and accurate, etc). Then vice versa applies (such as fatique more faster, more prone to injury, lower reaction, etc.) to the opposite form nod.gif..

*I'm pretty blur when explaining this, can understand? sweat.gif*
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another question from me guys biggrin.gif

i choose 2 player game in normal Match Mode
before the match starts, i check the player condition n formation
i always notice some of the player will be in a 'bad' form
how to make all the Match Mode players to be in 'good' form ?
can we change something in the option or wat ?

well u know,if i beat my fren they will give an excuse..
'my key striker is not in good form...if not i already score 3 goal just now'
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another question from me guys biggrin.gif

i choose 2 player game in normal Match Mode
before the match starts, i check the player condition n formation
i always notice some of the player will be in a 'bad' form
how to make all the Match Mode players to be in 'good' form ?
can we change something in the option or wat ?

well u know,if i beat my fren they will give an excuse..
'my key striker is not in good form...if not i already score 3 goal just now'
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There's a setting there in the match mode when choosing stadium, difficulty level, entrance, etc. U can choose whichever 'arrow' u liked for all players thumbup.gif
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Thank you Vearn27 thumbup.gif

Me understand... now tongue.gif
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Yosh... yesterday played a few matches more and now Real Madrid is qualified to play in the Champions League after leading in the qualifying table with 13 points from 4 wins, 1 draw and 1 lost (eventually lost 3-0 in the last match doh.gif) thumbup.gif

Real Madrid's top player and top scorer, Steven Gerrard once again showed remarkable performance for the team after recovered from an injury. Rated just behind Ronaldinho with 0.01 in FIFA Best Midfielders, he added 2 more goals to his scoring sheet in da league from 3 matches and rated as player of the match in each match (izzit the 'star' in individual performance after a match refered as the 'player of the match'? tongue.gif). Unpredictable accurate passing, long range shots and good interception from Stevie G lead the team to the winning way.

Ronaldo made his way back to 1st lineup after showed impressive play early in the season. Dijbril Cisse in the other way sat back on the bench. Top scorer of the Real in da league, Raul in the other way finding it's difficult for him to get the net all the time ended with only 3 goals so far from 8 league matches. The manager now is sighting to bring another forward during the up coming negotiation period. However, with the current fund.. it seem unlikely managed to secure any service of a player. Unless, some club offer for 'set for on sales players' laugh.gif.

*gotta continue to play tonite tongue.gif*
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 18 2005, 03:11 PM)
Eh.. I thought it's the graphic in WE8 that made the game lagging when a lot of players crowded on the screen? This problem then can be solved by installing the game into HDD as HDD load faster than a DVD on PS2 unsure.gif.. in WE8LE *which has on9 mode too*, the lagging problem already fixed a bit but since then I already started to load the game from HDD via PS2 to play thumbup.gif (loading is much faster)

Yupz.. I too hate slowdown or lagging that really spoil the fun of the game.. earlier I didnt move to WE8 and stay with WE7I bcoz of the slowdown or lagging issue. Later then only I moved to WE8LE when it's released and I bought myself a PS2 Network Adapter to play the game on HDD tongue.gif *I also started my WE patching since then laugh.gif*.

Pace in the game is really another thing, it's more accurate and realistic this time around in WE9 compared to WE8LE. Not too fast and not too slow, really suit a soccer game well. Players response also needed to be judge correctly else the ball going loose biggrin.gif
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Don't know if HDD solved the lagging. Slowdown is different. Slowdown WAS the main problem in WE8/PES4.

Gamplay, he,he,he I'm a biased toward WE8:LE. I really loved that game. And I loved WE7I too. WE8,WE8I so so only for me. PES4 I hated.

WE9 is OK, but the very deep defending gets to me at time. Why do ALL teams have to paly that way, I do understand if some teams do, but ALL?

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 19 2005, 10:31 PM)
The 'regulate training option' is to 're-adjust' ur player's condition (or normally we said the 'form' of a player in life tongue.gif). The arrows show pretty easy understandable which 'arrow pointing up' [RED] is the BEST form or condition of that player and 'arrow pointing down' [GRAY] is the WORST. Normal condition is 'arrow pointing horizontally' [GREEN].. where then [YELLOW] is better and [BLUE] is worse. It then effect the player's performance in the game where like when the player is at his better form, he tend not to fatique so easily and perform better (such as running faster, more agile, shooting more powerful and accurate, etc). Then vice versa applies (such as fatique more faster, more prone to injury, lower reaction, etc.) to the opposite form nod.gif..

*I'm pretty blur when explaining this, can understand? sweat.gif*
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Yes, very correct thumbup.gif ,but 'regulate condition' really is a lottery . When using it players already on good form may get downgraded .

I tend stay away from it unless many of my first choice eleven are on poor form.(and not fatigued).

If not it's way better to have good squad depth and just rotate players in and out. Regulate does not eliminate accum fatigue though, so sometiems its better to give players a rest.

There was a thread way back that explaind this in some other forums. (PESFAN i think)

There's actually a weighted increase/reduction in stats by certain % pts. (weighted = certain stats increase/reduce more than others)

Assume green = normal (i.e 0% and player plays as per his shown stats).

If red, stats get boosted (i think its about 12% overall). If blue, stats get decreased with gray having about a 12% decrease.

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 19 2005, 04:40 PM)
Icic.. that's why I love this game a lot.. many unpredictable thingy thumbup.gif *really like real life, sometime player's performance depend on season also nod.gif*

Just like Ronaldo in my club, for the 1st and 2nd season, he barely score or penetrate the opponent's defence. Always lost possesion of the ball or failed to shot.. then Dijbril Cisse whom I bought in the 2nd season perform very impressively. He can score quite well, although still not good enough to dribble to drive in, but the range within the penalty box... just hit the [SQUARE] and there's a high chance of scoring. He able to kick powerful and accurate blow.

Then I put him to the 1st lineup and drop Ronaldo, in the final 4 matches of 2nd season.. Cisse still adding up to his score sheet in each match. Then when it came to 3rd season (which I'm playing now), he become what happened to Ronaldo. Failed to score and hold possesion of the ball each time.. then substituted with Ronaldo and even making Ronaldo in the 1st lineup, he scored very well shocking.gif (I mean Ronaldo).. wahaha.. that's why I really love this game thumbup.gif

Now I'm confused whether to start with Ronaldo or Cisse each time, playing them as rotation now. Raul still the best at the moment. Although sick of his pace, but then he wouldn't disappoint u from scoring biggrin.gif
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Yeah, happen to me too many times to say. Although it's not expicitly stated anywhere, I believe there is an overall up/down form curve coded inside ML. Applies to players and your team. It's independant from the form/stats you can see. Thats why throughout the course of the season, eventually you'll find that you sometimes just cant get the right results; your team stops performing as well as it should, even against obviously weaker opposition. When this happen you really need to be pragmatic and work hard to grind out results.

Then after a certain stretch of matches, they all paly beyond themselves, and you star getting unexpectedly good results, and after a while its back to normal again.

Its also true that certain palyers are more 'up for it' for certain type of games. Lime some superstar palyers always seem to do well in CL games, but dont perform as well in normal league games.

Its there, cant prove it though. But I like it. Winning all the time would be so booooooring. Thats why I love this game.

btw, I've not posted my ML for some time now because I got PES5 recently, and I'm fooling around with that first. Trying to decide which I should stick with for the next few mths until WE9I's out.

Cheers,

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Yosh... yesterday played a few matches more and now Real Madrid is qualified to play in the Champions League after leading in the qualifying table with 13 points from 4 wins, 1 draw and 1 lost (eventually lost 3-0 in the last match doh.gif) thumbup.gif

Real Madrid's top player and top scorer, Steven Gerrard once again showed remarkable performance for the team after recovered from an injury. Rated just behind Ronaldinho with 0.01 in FIFA Best Midfielders, he added 2 more goals to his scoring sheet in da league from 3 matches and rated as player of the match in each match (izzit the 'star' in individual performance after a match refered as the 'player of the match'? tongue.gif). Unpredictable accurate passing, long range shots and good interception from Stevie G lead the team to the winning way.

Ronaldo made his way back to 1st lineup after showed impressive play early in the season. Dijbril Cisse in the other way sat back on the bench. Top scorer of the Real in da league, Raul in the other way finding it's difficult for him to get the net all the time ended with only 3 goals so far from 8 league matches. The manager now is sighting to bring another forward during the up coming negotiation period. However, with the current fund.. it seem unlikely managed to secure any service of a player. Unless, some club offer for 'set for on sales players' laugh.gif.

*gotta continue to play tonite tongue.gif*
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Ha,ha.. vearn27, seems like Stevie G is your man. I really like the new MoM awards too. Now not only the one who scores more goals get it, sometimes the creator/defence or GK can get it too. ANd the short descriptions of player contributions a great. And even if other players didn't get MoM, sometimes there are comments highlighting thier contribution too.

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QUOTE(jiwa @ Oct 20 2005, 11:27 AM)
Don't know if HDD solved the lagging. Slowdown is different. Slowdown WAS the main problem in WE8/PES4.

Gamplay, he,he,he I'm a biased toward WE8:LE. I really loved that game. And I loved WE7I too. WE8,WE8I so so only for me. PES4 I hated.

WE9 is OK, but the very deep defending gets to me at time. Why do ALL teams have to paly that way, I do understand if some teams do, but ALL?

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Yupz, for me.. it really solved the lagging problem. No more lagging when a lot of players crowded on the screen. But then I had no idea what's the 'slowdown' that u r talking about.. unsure.gif

I also loved WE8LE, I first patched it with Ole Gangsta Mix Lite and then next is Reefur 1.0. However, I didnt play WE8LE patched with Reefur 1.0 because WE9 already released and then I started playing with it until now tongue.gif

Sometime I also questioned myself regarding the players and opponent's formation. Yeah, they do change formation based on their opponent's formation rather than keeping the default everytime. But then their players like got extra 'umm' than mine.. Fast and strong.. I most hated when they're playing 'heavy pressuring', 2~3 or even more players will run forward to my player who having possesion of the ball shakehead.gif. It's really fast and gave a good time to play around with it doh.gif.. I really been wondering if any setting or controls I can do to get the same effect sweat.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 20 2005, 12:03 PM)
Yupz, for me.. it really solved the lagging problem. No more lagging when a lot of players crowded on the screen. But then I had no idea what's the 'slowdown' that u r talking about.. unsure.gif

I also loved WE8LE, I first patched it with Ole Gangsta Mix Lite and then next is Reefur 1.0. However, I didnt play WE8LE patched with Reefur 1.0 because WE9 already released and then I started playing with it until now tongue.gif

Sometime I also questioned myself regarding the players and opponent's formation. Yeah, they do change formation based on their opponent's formation rather than keeping the default everytime. But then their players like got extra 'umm' than mine.. Fast and strong.. I most hated when they're playing 'heavy pressuring', 2~3 or even more players will run forward to my player who having possesion of the ball shakehead.gif. It's really fast and gave a good time to play around with it doh.gif.. I really been wondering if any setting or controls I can do to get the same effect sweat.gif
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'Lagging' is for online play with WE8/I. Slower responce for one party/action not updated immediately. Slowdown is when the frame rate drops coz 'a lot of action' on the screen. Slowdown happens even in sinlge-player. Thats what I meant. I never though that installing to HDD could improve lagging, although I know that it does improve the slowdown slightly.

Anyway, old story lah. Lets concentrate on WE9/PES5 now. btw Have you got PES5 already.

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Oh yeah, forgot. If you try to play like CPU we'd end up losing. Because human just can't readjust/react and change players that fast.

YOu can try by using the 'zone press' strategy or aggressive 'man-mark'. I haven't tried this out actually so its only a guess.

I usually just hold position, and cover space. WHile using [] to get other palyers to press.

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QUOTE(jiwa @ Oct 20 2005, 11:48 AM)
Yeah, happen to me too many times to say. Although it's not expicitly stated anywhere, I believe there is an overall up/down form curve coded inside ML. Applies to players and your team. It's independant from the form/stats you can see. Thats why throughout the course of the season, eventually you'll find that you sometimes just cant get the right results; your team stops performing as well as it should, even against obviously weaker opposition. When this happen you really need to be pragmatic and work hard to grind out results.

Then after a certain stretch of matches, they all paly beyond themselves, and you star getting unexpectedly good results, and after a while its back to normal again.

Its also true that certain palyers are more 'up for it' for certain type of games. Lime some superstar palyers always seem to do well in CL games, but dont perform as well in normal league games.

Its there, cant prove it though. But I like it. Winning all the time would be so booooooring. Thats why I love this game.

btw, I've not posted my ML for some time now because I got PES5 recently, and I'm fooling around with that first. Trying to decide which I should stick with for the next few mths until WE9I's out.

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Yup.. u r definitely right about it. Game is all about winning or losing, there's no point if u keep on winning streak. Really enjoying the up and down in the league rank and also important cup championship.

And those players really got their own 'season' as well.. sometime performing good and sometime performing bad even thou with the same position, same condition and same individual setting laugh.gif

QUOTE(jiwa @ Oct 20 2005, 11:56 AM)
Ha,ha.. vearn27, seems like Stevie G is your man. I really like the new MoM awards too. Now not only the one who scores more goals get it, sometimes the creator/defence or GK can get it too. ANd the short descriptions of player contributions a great. And even if other players didn't get MoM, sometimes there are comments highlighting thier contribution too.

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I agree with u too. It's a very nice new addition to WE9 thumbup.gif. And u r rite too that Steven Gerrard is the key player in my team now. Creating the attacking opportunities and also in the mid field battle. Gravesen already started to decline.. not as strong as before and I'm observing for another replacement for him. I. Helguera might be my first choice, but then he's aging already. Left Bapista, Frabegas, Park and Guti as my choices. However, none of them can fit for Gravesen's CMF position as he's main in defending in mid field rather than attacking. He's more like support to the attackers and backup for Steven Gerrard in mid field. Perhaps it's time for some buy and sell blush.gif

As u said, MoM not necessary to be the scorer in the match but on overall important player thumbup.gif. In that case, anyone can be MoM including GK and defenders. Just like in my last match before I slept yesterday, Steven Gerrard received the MoM award with 8.5 rating even thou M. Saldago the only scorer in that match tongue.gif. But when taken into account, he did a lot of shoting, penetration, critical passing and also interception. Even Raul and Ronaldo didnt contribute much in the 'blows' against the opponent's goal smile.gif

QUOTE(jiwa @ Oct 20 2005, 12:17 PM)
'Lagging' is for online play with WE8/I. Slower responce for one party/action not updated immediately.  Slowdown is when the frame rate drops coz 'a lot of action' on the screen. Slowdown happens even in sinlge-player. Thats what I meant. I never though that installing to HDD could improve lagging, although I know that it does improve the slowdown slightly.

Anyway, old story lah. Lets concentrate on WE9/PES5 now. btw Have you got PES5 already.

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Ah.. then I'm sorry, I'm not talking about 'lagging' during on9 gaming *in fact, I didnt try before sweat.gif*, but I'm refering to the 'slowdown' during playing, especially when a lot of players crowded on the screen shakehead.gif.

Nah... haven't got my PES5, still enjoying my patched WE9 very much thumbup.gif..

But then.. I feel that WE is slightly more 'realistic' and 'toughter' than PES series.. although I know it's the same but only different in release for Asia and Europe market.. perhaps I'm wrong then.. keke (but I did remember last time mentioned in another forum that Japanese release is much toughter than Europe release.. the speed also different unsure.gif)
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QUOTE(jiwa @ Oct 20 2005, 12:21 PM)
Oh yeah, forgot. If you try to play like CPU we'd end up losing. Because human just can't readjust/react and change players that fast.

YOu can try by using the 'zone press' strategy or aggressive 'man-mark'. I haven't tried this out actually so its only a guess.

I usually just hold position, and cover space. WHile using [] to get other palyers to press.

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Haha.. then now I believe it's not my gameplay or reaction problem but it's the CPU damm 'power' laugh.gif.. I also doubt if PS2 controller and the game can be controlled like CPU did sweat.gif.. That's why I wanted to play on9 to challenge against more human player rather than only CPU. I dun hav a lot of frenz maniac in this game like me. I told them I'm playing 6 stars and they seem didnt believe it doh.gif

I did before the 'zone press', but not as effective as CPU. In the other way giving more spaces for the opponents to pass the ball around and my players fatigue easily. Last time I always use 'man mark' (not all players), but then in the end I still feel 'normal' defending is the best way to be. Rather than being tied to one player and then like playing with 10 players sad.gif

The most difficult I felt is when the CPU didnt 'ball pressuring'.. it's difficult to hold the possesion of the ball, not to mention passing doh.gif. They just come, 'touch' my player and the ball possesion gone. No fault or whatsoever, I just couldn't believe it and feel it's unfair sad.gif. When I did the same to CPU, the referee just blow the whistle as if he kena bribed doh.gif. In such situation, I normally back tracking and then pass the ball around horizontally against the opponent's goal. Slowly looking for chances to pass the ball forward nod.gif

Whenever I face this situation, it make me remember of Zidane which he can put them away easily with his dribble and ball control thumbup.gif

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Haha.. then now I believe it's not my gameplay or reaction problem but it's the CPU damm 'power' laugh.gif.. I also doubt if PS2 controller and the game can be controlled like CPU did sweat.gif.. That's why I wanted to play on9 to challenge against more human player rather than only CPU. I dun hav a lot of frenz maniac in this game like me. I told them I'm playing 6 stars and they seem didnt believe it doh.gif

I did before the 'zone press', but not as effective as CPU. In the other way giving more spaces for the opponents to pass the ball around and my players fatigue easily. Last time I always use 'man mark' (not all players), but then in the end I still feel 'normal' defending is the best way to be. Rather than being tied to one player and then like playing with 10 players sad.gif

The most difficult I felt is when the CPU didnt 'ball pressuring'.. it's difficult to hold the possesion of the ball, not to mention passing doh.gif. They just come, 'touch' my player and the ball possesion gone. No fault or whatsoever, I just couldn't believe it and feel it's unfair sad.gif. When I did the same to CPU, the referee just blow the whistle as if he kena bribed doh.gif. In such situation, I normally back tracking and then pass the ball around horizontally against the opponent's goal. Slowly looking for chances to pass the ball forward nod.gif

Whenever I face this situation, it make me remember of Zidane which he can put them away easily with his dribble and ball control thumbup.gif
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Playing against CPU is different than playing against human. Playing 6* against CPU is different than playing 3* against CPU. Its not so much the difficulty tahts changed but the reaction/speed that becomes unbalanced a bit.

And playing 6* against CPU doesnt' mean you'll beat a human player (even a newbie). To play 6* against a CPU, you need to play a certain style to win.

Play against human, he'll learn fast. You both can have so much fun.

Yeah you're right, abot the strategy. I forgot to mention that your stamina 'turun' like hell.

Refrees are a bit biased to the CPU. AI can get away with murder, while you'll be blown for the slightest mistime tackle. I've got a small trick that works sometimes. When you know you, going to get tackled, turn away, or back. Ref wil call foul. Using the R2 dragback also easy way to 'bait' the CPU to foul you.

Use it sometime, but if you overuse it, it takes the fun out of the game. If there's no risk, no gains. Sometime you benefit by being more direct. Yeah, you may get fouled, but if you lucky you may skip the tackle and be thru on goal.

I you play with people like me and my friends we don't press so much. We let each other play a lot, just closing the passing options down. It's more like "I know what you're trying to do, I know you think you know what I'll do, go ahead and try it, I've got you covered , lets see who surprises who then..ha.ha".

Our games usually 50% 0-0 or 1-1 draws. We usually play on 5* so our AI teamates are very good. It really take something special to score.

Once it gets boring, we usually team up 4 a side and play a cup or something.


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QUOTE(jiwa @ Oct 20 2005, 03:33 PM)
Playing against CPU is different than playing against human. Playing 6* against CPU is different than playing 3* against CPU. Its not so much the difficulty tahts changed but the reaction/speed that becomes unbalanced a bit.

And playing 6* against CPU doesnt' mean you'll beat a human player (even a newbie). To play 6* against a CPU, you need to play a certain style to win.

Play against human, he'll learn fast. You both can have so much fun.

Yeah you're right, abot the strategy. I forgot to mention that your stamina 'turun' like hell.

Refrees are a bit biased to the CPU. AI can get away with murder, while you'll be blown for the slightest mistime tackle. I've got a small trick that works sometimes. When you know you, going to get tackled, turn away, or back. Ref wil call foul.  Using the R2 dragback also easy way to 'bait' the CPU to foul you.

Use it sometime, but if you overuse it, it takes the fun out of the game. If there's no risk, no gains. Sometime you benefit by being more direct. Yeah, you may get fouled, but if you lucky you may skip the tackle and be thru on goal.

I you play with people like me and my friends we don't press so much. We let each other play a lot, just closing the passing options down. It's more like "I know what you're trying to do, I know you think you know what I'll do, go ahead and try it, I've got you covered , lets see who surprises who then..ha.ha".

Our games usually 50% 0-0 or 1-1 draws. We usually play on 5* so our AI teamates are very good. It really take something special to score.

Once it gets boring, we usually team up 4 a side and play a cup or something.
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Yup... u r rite. Even if u managed to play against 6 stars CPU, it doesn't mean u can beat a newbie human player in reality. After spending sometime playing with the CPU, u will get to their style of playing nod.gif. Especially everytime down the flank, I just know what the CPU will do next laugh.gif. Playing against human create much more fun as the moves much more unpredictable thumbup.gif

But there's always one type of lame stupid foul in the game.. when someone drop down and then while he's waking up, somebody walking around bang him.. Piii~!!! It's a foul laugh.gif

Too bad I didnt have any frenz have da same interest like me in the WE/PES game.. sad.gif

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Yup... u r rite. Even if u managed to play against 6 stars CPU, it doesn't mean u can beat a newbie human player in reality. After spending sometime playing with the CPU, u will get to their style of playing nod.gif. Especially everytime down the flank, I just know what the CPU will do next laugh.gif. Playing against human create much more fun as the moves much more unpredictable thumbup.gif

But there's always one type of lame stupid foul in the game.. when someone drop down and then while he's waking up, somebody walking around bang him.. Piii~!!! It's a foul laugh.gif

Too bad I didnt have any frenz have da same interest like me in the WE/PES game.. sad.gif
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Ha,ha.. biggrin.gif Also when playing against human, you can gloat and show off a bit. When playing CPU, no body bothers. Also very ewasy to wind up human opponent, make them so 'gerammm' vmad.gif

Same problem here mate, no friends to sparr with. Have to wait 'balik kampung' only then can get proper challenge. Too bad I'll just be missing the tournament in KL by a few days.

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Ha,ha..  biggrin.gif Also when playing against human, you can gloat and show off a bit. When playing CPU, no body bothers. Also very ewasy to wind up human opponent, make them so 'gerammm'  vmad.gif

Same problem here mate, no friends to sparr with. Have to wait 'balik kampung' only then can get proper challenge. Too bad I'll just be missing the tournament in KL by a few days.

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Haha.. u r absolutely right about it.. Showing off skills in front of the goal post when against GK.. doing Zidane's 360 Roulette, Ronaldo's steps over or Ronaldinho's flip-flap before scoring the goal.. seem like pointless as a single shot will shorten the 'delay' of the technique.. wahaha biggrin.gif.. The CPU will feel 'nothing' being scored goal in that marvelous way.. unless the human feel satisfied.. but no one gonna compliment on it sweat.gif
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care to explain whats the difference between line defence, sweeper(this one i tau), and another wan(which i cant remember the name?) biggrin.gif

thanks...

*baru finish my season 1(division1), 2nd place sad.gif , behind chelsea. Won the Div1 cup though smile.gif

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At last.. I changed my formation and also strategy.. now it become:

-------------------------------------------- Ronaldo (CF)------------------------
---------------------------- Raul (CF) --------------------------------------------
----- Kaka (ST)- -----------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------ Beckham (RMF) -----
------------------------------------- S. Gerrard (CMF) --------------------------
------------------- Park Ji Sung (CMF) ------------------------------------------
----- Ashley Cole (LSB) ------------------------------------ Chivu (RSB) -----
-------------------- S. Ramos (CB) ----- J. Woodgate (CB) ------------------
--------------------------------- Cassilas (GK) ----------------------------------

In my previous formation, the 'LMF' position seem handicapped in it sweat.gif.. lacking of contribution and thus wasted a player on the field as the gameplay mostly in the centre or the right side.. In the UEFA qualifying round, I'm losing 1-0 to AS Monaco in the 1st half with the previous formation, changed to this formation then as it already been in my mind for quite sometime. Gamble thru as I rested Gerrard on the bench coz he's fatigued. Then with magnificent new effective role of Kaka, he scored and the whole team charged forward. Ended up with 3-1 win and then I switched to this formation since that match *actually it's on trial tongue.gif* laugh.gif

Already set Ronaldo as the 1st lineup rather than Cisse, and then let Park Ji Sung taken Gravesen position as well happy.gif.. somehow he's more effective now than declining Gravesen.. at last.. I found my choice for his replacement thumbup.gif. The gameplay more effective now as more shots and possesion held, rather than depending of Gerrard as the key player to initiate an attack, Kaka the 'Second Top' yet another option thus most attacking direction and various option available thumbup.gif.. Robinho now taken off from the 'sales' list for upcoming negotiation period as he's capable of playing well in that ST position too.. thus making him a subs for Kaka nod.gif
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guys
during the Master League mode,i create one formation that i love the most
so i save it under formation setting>stock>save

then i wanna use the formation back in Match Mode
but when i load the formation,nothing changes

can u guys tell me the proper way to save n loads formation ?

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this game is much slower comparitively to winning 8. why ahhhh? i am havin a lot of problem controlling the ball. i am very use to movin my players using the arrow buttons but i cant seem to get myself use to the analog button to control movement. but now, once i play WE9 using the arrow buttons, it seems hard to control the players. pls advise.
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guys
during the Master League mode,i create one formation that i love the most
so i save it under formation setting>stock>save

then i wanna use the formation back in Match Mode
but when i load the formation,nothing changes

can u guys tell me the proper way to save n loads formation ?

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i already got an answer for this prob
got it from pesinsight.com forum

a user with nick madmax25 post this biggrin.gif

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Did you stock the formation?

I do this every time, always works for me: In the formation menu, go to the "stock" option. Copy your team's formation by clicking on the team emblem and then on one of the free slots. Then scrool down to "save" in the stock option and save the formation to the memory card. You can have multiple formations saved on the same file.

Hope this helps.


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Hi guys. Just dropping by. Been away from this forum for a while. Good to know all u WE9 kakis are still out there alive and kicking. smile.gif

Special HI to vearn. Peace!
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QUOTE(terranova @ Nov 1 2005, 01:08 PM)
Hi guys. Just dropping by. Been away from this forum for a while. Good to know all u WE9 kakis are still out there alive and kicking. smile.gif

Special HI to vearn. Peace!
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Hi there terranova, it been a while since u last posted here. Busy with work? Me now having holidays back in my hometown... just went to Low Yat and bought PS2 Controller to USB Adapter and PES5 for PC... gotta try out PC version once a while on PS2 Controller tongue.gif

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OMG!!! thumbup.gif Didn't know theres so much WE9 kakis in LYN.Believe it or not, i just read the whole thread from page 1 to 12(currentpage). So many questions,so many experiences to share.....
I'm not a crazy fan of WE last time, I used to play it for a couple of weeks then I'll move on to another game. I've never took this game seriously,imagine playing an entire season without changing players lol.....but now I dunno why i'm hooked to WE9!!!!this happens when i decided to stop playing Resident evil 4 for awhile and now for the whole week I've been playing this game whenever I got the chance, up to 4 sumthing in the morning.sorry,i cut my crap now hehe

OK,from what i've read, most of you here plays 5* difficulty and above.....how u guys manage to win matches?????how often do u guys practise/play the game???
Well, now i've just completed my 1st season in ML using arsenal with those ciplak ML players such as Castoro,Miranda etc with 3* difficulty but i find it hard just to win a game...why???maybe i'm not pro yet or issit because of my weak players??

Now, during off-season, i purchased some youngsters with ok-ok stats and I notice I've improved my game alot but still I have problems scoring with header from crosses, its either my forwards don't get them or they'll knock it too high over the goal post but I only use A LITTLE power. Can someone tell me why?Issit because of the player's stats ?is there any controls to make the header go downwards?

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hold up, hold R1, press square, pray  tongue.gif  (or add a little bit of curve by pressing left or right)
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What does R1 do???
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QUOTE(jonjon87 @ Nov 13 2005, 11:00 PM)
OMG!!! thumbup.gif  Didn't know theres so much WE9 kakis in LYN.Believe it or not, i just read the whole thread from page 1 to 12(currentpage). So many questions,so many experiences to share.....
I'm not a crazy fan of WE last time, I used to play it for a couple of weeks then I'll move on to another game. I've never took this game seriously,imagine playing an entire season without changing players lol.....but now I dunno why i'm hooked to WE9!!!!this happens when i decided to stop playing Resident evil 4 for awhile and now for the whole week I've been playing this game whenever I got the chance, up to 4 sumthing in the morning.sorry,i cut my crap now hehe

OK,from what i've read, most of you here plays 5* difficulty and above.....how u guys manage to win matches?????how often do u guys practise/play the game???
Well, now i've just completed my 1st season in ML using arsenal with those ciplak ML players such as Castoro,Miranda etc with 3* difficulty but i find it hard just to win a game...why???maybe i'm not pro yet or issit because of my weak players??

Now, during off-season, i purchased some youngsters with ok-ok stats and I notice I've improved my game alot but still I have problems scoring with header from crosses, its either my forwards don't get them or they'll knock it too high over the goal post but I only use A LITTLE power. Can someone tell me why?Issit because of the player's stats ?is there any controls to make the header go downwards?
What does R1 do???
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Yo ~ yo ~ yo... welcome jonjon87 to da club~! laugh.gif

This thread been dying... although I started to compose my new ML's story planning to revive it another while... however, u r faster than me thou tongue.gif

Hehe... it sound like we're the 'same'.. coz last time also I used to buy a lot of other games and frankly, I only finished a few games... and not even 5% of my collection sweat.gif *not less and not much I got 3 dvd folders full of games shakehead.gif*... I then stopped my 'buying' on other games after I started with Winning Eleven 6 and Pro Evolution Soccer 3... then from there I proceed to 'love the game' and rarely see myself buy other game than Winning Eleven or Pro Evolution Soccer series wink.gif *helped me to save a lot also biggrin.gif*

At first I started with 2* difficulty as I even failed to hold possesion of the ball when I'm playing 3*, not to mention to score with it doh.gif... After finished one or two seasons with 2*, I'm getting 'used' to the game and moved to 3* then... after another few seasons I constantly leading in the league table with ridiculous scoring and pulling myself very far from the 2nd spot tongue.gif, I wanted to try 4*... but I failed to win most of the time... so I gave up and stay on 3*. However one day, 'something' happened (if u really read back u should know tongue.gif) and I'm so badly wanted to improve myself better bruce.gif

So.. I make a big leap to 5* then (that time haven't got 6*).. and playing the game every 2 hours a day at nite before sleep. At that time also I beginning to think of 'strategy' and 'formation' that would work 'better' with my line-up.. so after quite a while playing with the game.. I already used to 'hardest' difficulty level wink.gif. I'm playing 6* now unless when new installation appeared, I'll play at 3* difficulty for one season to 'learn' and make myself 'used' to the new controls and then goto 6* after that wink.gif

Players's ability and stats are really important, but the 'compatibility' between the players and URSELF will be more vital. Why? Bcoz u control them lor tongue.gif... It doesn't mean u sure win when u got ALL STARS in ur team... It's just whether u matched 'them' or not... that's why I feel as different ppl using different gameplay style wink.gif... Also another thing, don't look down on those players with low stats... they might perform very well in the game instead thumbup.gif

As for crosses and headers... u really need to learn the 'timing' to hit the square when the ball going to reach the players. Also the 'height' and 'heading' stats does take into account as well. Actually a lot summore such as the 'teamwork' between the crosser and the header for more accurate passing, the 'strength' of da player in struggling between few players... hehe biggrin.gif

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Crossing has its techniques as well, such as tappping CIRCLE once, twice or thrice will determine ball path, directing the ball into the box with manual stick, timing of the shot or header (like Vearn mentioned), timing of the cross (i.e. wait a bit for strikers to move into box if your winger like Giggs/Ronaldo runs faster than the rest!), pulling headers back just before SQUARE.

Read manual from earlier post (if still available for download). If not, just let me know and I'll upload again.


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It been a while since I last update my ML's story here... perhaps jiwa busying himself with PES5 tongue.gif... I had that game too, but my love with WE just much better than it laugh.gif

My 3rd season with Real Madrid ended with 2 trophys and ranked 5th in the league. Although we had struggled thru to won the Div. 1 Cup and Champions League in a 'thin' margin, yet we still doing badly in da league. However, it's one happy thing to see Gerrard voted as the OVERALL BEST PLAYER of FIFA and Raul voted as the TOP SCORER & OVERALL BEST PLAYER in Div. 1 Cup thumbup.gif. Anyway, during the off-season... I had 'used' up all the credits I had gained to gamble for league trophy next season bruce.gif *sound like Abramovich? but he had 'unlimited' tongue.gif*

A big changes been made to the lineup. Raul, Kaka and L. Gonzales (acquired earlier by other club trading over) been traded for Thierry Henry, Reyes and V. Persie from Arsenal. I had been looking around for 2nd and 'support' forward that could score and pass to my striker for the finishing. Raul seem to be capable of it, however his slow pace doesn't help much sad.gif. Kaka been dropped from first selection after Robben came from Chelsea. Robben been showing spectacular performance on the left as 'Second Top' [ST]. Kaka been degrading and that's the reason he been dropped and showed the exit door. Looking for some other choices for [ST], then V. Persie name came into my mind for my 'unused' L. Gonzales tongue.gif

In the other way, Eto been acquired by trading Owen with them, Barcelona. He's good, but not stable. Been up and down with his form. He got some good real dribbling skills, but I'm looking forward for more goals contribution from him. That's why he been traded for Eto.

Here goes my new lineup with the same previous formation except being edited the positions a little bit:


------------------------------------------------- Ronaldo (CF)-------------------
------------------------------ T. Henry (CF) -------------------------------------
----- A. Robben (ST)- -----------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------ C. Ronaldo (RMF) ---
------------------------------------- S. Gerrard (CMF) --------------------------
------------------- Park Ji Sung (CMF) ------------------------------------------
----- Ashley Cole (LSB) ------------------------------------ Chivu (RSB) -----
-------------------- S. Ramos (CB) ----- J. Woodgate (CB) ------------------
--------------------------------- Cassilas (GK) ----------------------------------


Most played substitutes:

Samuel Eto [CF]
Dijbril Cisse [CF]
Reyes [ST]
V. Persie [ST]
Beckham [SMF]
Frabegas [CMF/SMF]
Gravesen [CMF]
Helguera [CMF/CB]
M. Saldago [SB]
Raul Bravo [CB/SB]
Kompany [CB/SB]
Marshall [GK]

Showing to the exit door:
Baptista [ST/CMF]
Fellipe [SB]
C. ?????? [GK]

Rotation been playing around for the forwards as many matches now; League Matches, Div. Cup Matches and Champions League Playoff. First choice for left [CF] definitely will be Henry as he's the one who can score and pass. As the right [CF], Ronaldo the most favoured. However, Eto and Dijbril Cisse being switched around with them as I'm looking for best pair to start with. Arjen Robben, the ex-Chelski performing extremely brilliant on the [ST] position replacing Kaka. Much more contributing in the attacks and even scored up a few for his own sheet.

C. Ronaldo on the right side showing better run-up than Beckham. Penetrating the upper right flank and messing around the defense with his good dribbling and passing skills. S. Gerrard, no need to explain further. He's the key player of the team playing an important role in the middle in both attacking and defending. With his excellent long range powerful shooting, the opponents really need to stay alert with him whenever there's space within his shooting range. Park Ji Sung, playing in the position where more defensive playing as he's placed lower. Not as 'solid' and 'strong' as Gravesen, but he's really flexible and fast. Having only Gravesen's solid defending and midfield control, Park is more effective showing up skills in a lot of area. Frabegas, the first choice substitute for [CMF], he's just like another Park.

In defensive playing, Ashley Cole and Chivu doing great down the flanks, although Chivu left-footed playing on the right. The pair of rotation between Sergio Ramos, J. Woodgate and Kompany handling their field of coverage very well and often all of them caught the opponents with off-side trap. Cassilas, the main GK of Real Madrid didn't disappoint any of his teammates and making critical saves most of the time. Marshall just following from his behind.

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Back from the holiday break then back to attend some courses. Only got into the office today. Reading thru all the posts so far. MAybe chip in some replies in a few days time. good to be back. Had a great time back in hometown with 3-4 days of heavy all-nighter 3v3 multiplayer. Seen some goals that I'd never been able to pull off in single palyer mode.

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Welcome back jiwa, it's great to see u again. Least I'm not that bored here sweat.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Nov 14 2005, 09:32 AM)
Yo ~ yo ~ yo... welcome jonjon87 to da club~! laugh.gif

This thread been dying... although I started to compose my new ML's story planning to revive it another while... however, u r faster than me thou tongue.gif

Hehe... it sound like we're the 'same'.. coz last time also I used to buy a lot of other games and frankly, I only finished a few games... and not even 5% of my collection sweat.gif *not less and not much I got 3 dvd folders full of games shakehead.gif*... I then stopped my 'buying' on other games after I started with Winning Eleven 6 and Pro Evolution Soccer 3... then from there I proceed to 'love the game' and rarely see myself buy other game than Winning Eleven or Pro Evolution Soccer series wink.gif *helped me to save a lot also biggrin.gif*

At first I started with 2* difficulty as I even failed to hold possesion of the ball when I'm playing 3*, not to mention to score with it doh.gif... After finished one or two seasons with 2*, I'm getting 'used' to the game and moved to 3* then... after another few seasons I constantly leading in the league table with ridiculous scoring and pulling myself very far from the 2nd spot tongue.gif, I wanted to try 4*... but I failed to win most of the time... so I gave up and stay on 3*. However one day, 'something' happened (if u really read back u should know tongue.gif) and I'm so badly wanted to improve myself better bruce.gif

So.. I make a big leap to 5* then (that time haven't got 6*).. and playing the game every 2 hours a day at nite before sleep. At that time also I beginning to think of 'strategy' and 'formation' that would work 'better' with my line-up.. so after quite a while playing with the game.. I already used to 'hardest' difficulty level wink.gif. I'm playing 6* now unless when new installation appeared, I'll play at 3* difficulty for one season to 'learn' and make myself 'used' to the new controls and then goto 6* after that wink.gif

Players's ability and stats are really important, but the 'compatibility' between the players and URSELF will be more vital. Why? Bcoz u control them lor tongue.gif... It doesn't mean u sure win when u got ALL STARS in ur team... It's just whether u matched 'them' or not... that's why I feel as different ppl using different gameplay style wink.gif... Also another thing, don't look down on those players with low stats... they might perform very well in the game instead thumbup.gif

As for crosses and headers... u really need to learn the 'timing' to hit the square when the ball going to reach the players. Also the 'height' and 'heading' stats does take into account as well. Actually a lot summore such as the 'teamwork' between the crosser and the header for more accurate passing, the 'strength' of da player in struggling between few players... hehe biggrin.gif
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thanks....helped me alot heheheheehe....I'll try to get myself comfortable to the 3* for now(very different from WE8),will practise more hahaha. Is there any winning eleven competition or a place where u can challenge people??I wanna see pros play ler, I don't have friends that play winning eleven sad.gif .Need to 'open' my eyes by seeing other people play hehe.

QUOTE(terranova @ Nov 14 2005, 10:13 AM)
Crossing has its techniques as well, such as tappping CIRCLE once, twice or thrice will determine ball path, directing the ball into the box with manual stick, timing of the shot or header (like Vearn mentioned), timing of the cross (i.e. wait a bit for strikers to move into box if your winger like Giggs/Ronaldo runs faster than the rest!), pulling headers back just before SQUARE.

Read manual from earlier post (if still available for download). If not, just let me know and I'll upload again.
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I got a problem here....if i'm not mistaken tapping O twice will cause the player to cross to the near post right????but everytime i press twice i goes all the way to the far post and sometimes out of the penalty box....wonder why???

Another thing is what do u mean by 'PULLING HEADERS BACK...'

Oh yeah, for freekicks, u guys use Square or circle?

Can upload the manual again??thanks!

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QUOTE(jonjon87 @ Nov 14 2005, 04:27 PM)
I got a problem here....if i'm not mistaken tapping O twice will cause the player to cross to the near post right????but everytime i press twice i goes all the way to the far post and sometimes out of the penalty box....wonder why???

Another thing is what do u mean by 'PULLING HEADERS BACK...'

Oh yeah, for freekicks, u guys use Square or circle?

Can upload the manual again??thanks!
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Hm... what did u set for ur long pass option? Normally I'll select the 'option 4' (if I'm not mistaken tongue.gif) where long pass is normal and crossing into the box carried out by 'L1 + O' buttons. So everytime I'll hit the 'L1' together along whenever I wanna pass into the box nod.gif.. else it depends on setting, some options only 'auto' crossing into the box when player is down to the opponent's flank.. otherwise it may 'perform' normal pass smile.gif

'PULLING HEADERS BACK' -- I guess terranova mean controlling the target player where he'll head the ball after a cross or corner kick been executed. By controlling and move him to a better position, higher chances of the shot will aim for goal and also more powerful nod.gif

Well, I helped him to upload for ya~! wink.gif


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4th season updates with Real Madrid laugh.gif

With the new players, new lineup, new formation and new strategy... Real Madrid is hoping to clinch the league title this season after doing a major players swapping last season despite finished 5th rank in last season.

10 matches had been played and for the very first time Real Madrid is leading in the league with 9 wins and 1 draw. Chelsea following behind by 1 point after defeated by Real Madrid in their 9th match. Thierry Henry proved the qualities in him for scoring the only goal in the match. Samuel Eto did showed spectacular performance as well after the trade with Owen from Barcelona. Michael Owen now doing really good in Barcelona and leading the top scorers list in the league with 7 goals.

Robben and Reyes didnt disappoint playing in the Second Top [ST] position. Both players marked with fast pace and easily helping in penetrating the defense and dangerous passes into the box. Van Persie in the other way, haven't shown his quality playing as [ST] but he did some remarkable performance and scored 1 goal when he's starting 2 matches as forward [CF] because 3 of Real's 4 forwards had been summoned for national duty and they're real fatigue once they're back to the squad. Perhaps Van Persie is more suitable playing as [CF] rather than [ST]. Most probably one of them will be leaving the squad for better chances to play as regular in some other team.

In the Champions League, Real successfullly won 5 and draw once in the playoff fixtures and now playing in the first round smile.gif
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Nice update...well done and keep up with your efforts vearn. I'll try to share my stupid moments in WE9 few days ago(one of it) blush.gif As Arsenal was leading by 1 goal, I felt relieved and satisfied and begin changing to formation B which is my defensive formation with 4 Defenders and 2 DMF. Confident that I am able to keep the lead and even score a few more goals.I decided to try the 'push-the-wall-away' technic by pressins L1 and R1 with my keeper.Somehow he didn't perform that action so i pressed it again,he did...wow....wait!someone's rushing to him,he doesn't wear the same color jersey as my team.Without panic, I relaxingly press the pass button to my defender......0.5 seconds....hmm..I didn't know his passing speed is damn slow......1 sec...he's still not passin......Too late.....the ball hit the net!!!!All good feeling is lost luckily i manage to score back phew~

Lesson of the day: Never practise any dribbling manuever with ur GK,defenders during matches.....that's why they have training mode......

Damn malu.....wuu~ blush.gif
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Hehe... a lot more funny scene and critical goals will happen when u play WE more... There was once my forward is charging forward and shot a powerful low shot toward the goalkeeper from the edge of the box... the goalkeeper managed to reflect the ball away but then it hit a coming over defender's chest and then... OWN GOOOOAAAAAALLLLLLLL~! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Another scene where the defender back-pass to his goalkeeper as I'm charging forward with my forward toward the ball... then suddenly the goalkeeper turn back and was pushed by his own defender and score an... OWN GOOOOAAAAAALLLLLLLL~! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Then, got another time the goalkeeper managed to stop my forward's shot but the ball went loose from his hand and rolling toward as going to pass the goal line... so the goalkeeper jump forward again to get hold of that ball but his teammate slided and created another... OWN GOOOOAAAAAALLLLLLLL~! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

A lot more... only remember a few tongue.gif

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HAaha lol.....
theres once i got so fed up and frustated that i restart the match because u know what? i got a penalty....then my player shot and the ball hit the bar and bounce up and down. The keeper already down and guess what my player (the one who shot the penalty) doing.....He stand there staring at the ball......until the defenders came and clear it.....


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Haha.. that's not the worst.. you haven't seen before a goalkeeper standing there staying constant and watch the ball rolling (yeah, rolling shocking.gif) pass the goal line sweat.gif shakehead.gif doh.gif
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wahliao.....how come???did he just get up from the ground or something????

I remember there's once the AI shot a super long range shot then my keeper was ready to catch the ball.......and somehow the ball bounce on his head hahahahahahahahhahahahha made me laugh nonstop that time
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The goalkeeper case I didnt see before in WE9 but used to be a lot during my time with WE8LE sweat.gif.. just the same like other fans had complained, Konami didnt take initiative to improve the goalie AI shakehead.gif.. However, it's much better now in WE9. The goalie charge forward, step out to clear the ball, catch the ball... all on the right time. It then increased the difficulty to pass-by a goalie and also during 1 on 1 wink.gif.. but well, sometime the GK still do some stupid thing.. as in real life tongue.gif laugh.gif
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Yesterday had quite a limited time... so I only played a few matches and marked the first lost of the season to Fulham by 2-0. The pair of Samuel Eto and Van Persie been summoned again as CF but my mistake to having placing them in the wrong place doh.gif. Henry, Dijbril Cisse and Ronaldo still recovering from their fatigue. Left-footed Van Persie should had better accurate shooting ability on the left but then I placed him up front on the right which Ronaldo's regular position while vice versa, right-footed Eto was placed on the left taking Henry's position. The reason I did so because Henry's or 2nd top [CF] position in my formation always counted as a support forward to me. Other than scoring, he'll need to dribble around and make critical pass to the top [CF] for finishing. For that reason I had put Eto rather than Van Persie as he's better at it... oh well... that's not the only losing reason. Real Madrid been really playing awfully in that match. Most of the time pressured by the opponents and failed to hold possesion of the ball nicely and passing always been intercepted. Henry been put on the field in the 2nd half but only made better possesion, however yet still unable to put some 'dangerous' toward the opponent's goal.

The next game against Tottenham in the league showed some 'revenge' over the previous match's poor performance. Thierry Henry and Ronaldo on fire scoring 3 goals with 2 brilliant goals from Ronaldo. On the 9th minute, a perfectly chipped through pass from Gerrard caught Ronaldo unmarked and he marched forward and hit the net with a low shot. 11 minutes later then Thierry Henry did the same on the left-side and performed a feint shot before hitting the net with low shot as well laugh.gif. 12 minutes later Ronaldo added his 2nd when he did a 'MARVELOUS BICYCLE KICK' at the edge of the box converting Frabegas's corner kick thumbup.gif. 2nd half later Tottenham mananged to pull back 1 goal and ended the match with 3-1 win.

In Champions League qualifying round, Real Madrid had a bad start with 1 draw and 1 lost. With 4 matches to go for the qualifying, there's still a chance for Real to defend their title. Real Madrid marched to the next round of Div. 1 Cup after defeated Tottenham on 4-1 aggregate.

Well, that's all for now and wondering if tonite I still have some time to continue tongue.gif
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my most bizzare own goal was in WE8 with arsenal.. a cross to the back that went past the keeper doh.gif

...from half field.


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my most bizzare own goal was in WE8 with arsenal.. a cross to the back that went past the keeper doh.gif

...from half field.
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I only scored before from the middle between the box and also the kick-off spot. Haven't been half-field for neither goal or own goal tongue.gif
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BTw, anyone knows the complete controls for keeper during PK???Also, I noticed just by moving my analog 1 cm, the ball can go out, then I tried shooting without direction, the ball flies over the bar.....I nearly throw my chair at my PS2 hehehehe
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QUOTE(jonjon87 @ Nov 21 2005, 04:17 PM)
BTw, anyone knows the complete controls for keeper during PK???Also, I noticed just by moving my analog 1 cm, the ball can go out, then I tried shooting without direction, the ball flies over the bar.....I nearly throw my chair at my PS2 hehehehe
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Only six direction only mah:

up + square = middle up
right + square = lower right
left + square = lower left
no direction + square = lower middle
HOLD up & right + square = upper right
HOLD up & left + square = upper left

Same applies for both GK and Penalty taker wink.gif

Actually u can get 'access' to all these commands under the PAUSED Game Menu... just look down and u can see COMMAND... then R1 or R2 to switch the controls guide...
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in WE7, we can easily score from halfway line, LOL ! laugh.gif
i score a lot from it. doh.gif
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Does anyone know if WE9 J-League is now available at *cough* local stores?

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i saw it last weekend smile.gif
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QUOTE(terranova @ Nov 24 2005, 01:12 PM)
Does anyone know if WE9 J-League is now available at *cough* local stores?
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Hie terranova, it already been a while since last see u r posting here... how r u been doing? Currently which version and also which patch u r playing? tongue.gif

I really doubt if Reefur going to release their patch for WE9... sad.gif
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bug_vengeance, thanks so much for info. Will scout around for it this weekend then. I hear there are some improvements and tweaks made to the game engine. Want to try it out, now that Fernando has made an english patch v2.0 + team names in English. No player names in English yet though, except Argentina and England. Just have to wait or edit it myself.

vearn27, thanks for uploading the manual on my behalf. Been busy so did not frequent the forums. Currently playing WE9 with Wemerica v3.0 patch (although latest is V6.0 but really no time to update). Anyway, I'm happy with v3.0 as it is. But want to try out WE9JL AC.

Reefur will be releasing his patch, but not for WE9. His patch will be for WE9JL instead. The J-League version is his fav version of the game, as he likes playing with the Korean League and will surely do a patch for it, as he did for WE8JL.

I actually thought of getting Xbox360 to play FIFA2006 but reviews have been bad for this game esp only national teams and no national leagues. That's bad EA Sports, really bad of you. Online features are also bare to say the least. Now I really can't wait for PS3 and WE10!! *fingers crossed*

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No one post here 1?????

HAHA I manage to become the division 1 champion...........got 30k points now......buy wholeh????
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Hm... lately busy till no time to spend for WE sweat.gif... however, might play a few matches later tongue.gif... still seeded 2nd in da league following behind Chelsea with 1 point different... they only had lost twice and draw none so far... I also always nearly end-up losing another match in da league but lucky late minutes goal save my day sweat.gif

Best is I belasah Chelsea terok-terok in da Div. 1 Cup with 3-1 (home game) and 1-0 (away game)... laugh.gif... however, everytime after Robben showed spectacular performance, he'll end up with injury sad.gif... now he's resting for another 2 weeks doh.gif
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QUOTE(terranova @ Nov 24 2005, 04:58 PM)
bug_vengeance, thanks so much for info. Will scout around for it this weekend then. I hear there are some improvements and tweaks made to the game engine. Want to try it out, now that Fernando has made an english patch v2.0 + team names in English. No player names in English yet though, except Argentina and England. Just have to wait or edit it myself.

vearn27, thanks for uploading the manual on my behalf. Been busy so did not frequent the forums. Currently playing WE9 with Wemerica v3.0 patch (although latest is V6.0 but really no time to update). Anyway, I'm happy with v3.0 as it is. But want to try out WE9JL AC.

Reefur will be releasing his patch, but not for WE9. His patch will be for WE9JL instead. The J-League version is his fav version of the game, as he likes playing with the Korean League and will surely do a patch for it, as he did for WE8JL.

I actually thought of getting Xbox360 to play FIFA2006 but reviews have been bad for this game esp only national teams and no national leagues. That's bad EA Sports, really bad of you. Online features are also bare to say the least. Now I really can't wait for PS3 and WE10!! *fingers crossed*
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Hehe... dun mention regarding the 'manual' thingy, in fact I should thanks you in da 1st place for uploading it for us wink.gif. Hehe... me too struck with Wemerica v3.0 FINAL as well... didnt bother to keep updated as long as I can get to play sweat.gif... however, I mixed the patch with some others thou... dun really like the PES Commentating in da pack and also added Hawke's Kits and Maximo's Chants patch thumbup.gif... using da original japanese commentating... 'shuuuu-to!' laugh.gif

Hm... I know there's 'J-League' version of WE but wondering what it's... izzit only J-League's teams and no others? unsure.gif

Wah... I couldn't afford neither of the new consoles now even thou PS3 haven't been released... neway, most probably I'll get da PS3 as it always got bigger games library and japanese-like tongue.gif
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Phews~! As mentioned yesterday, I managed to steal some time to hang with WE9 tongue.gif...


Finally Real Madrid managed to regain their lead in League A with 48 points from 15 wins, 3 draws and 1 lost. Chelsea trailling 3 points behind with 15 wins and 4 lost with both them having the same goals different but Chelsea scored and conceded more than Real. In the league game against Arsenal, it's sort of 'revenging' match as Real snatched and swapped quite a number of players with them. It's really fun thou to see how good the CPU can control ex-players of ur team and vice versa, u control some of the opponent's ex-players also biggrin.gif. I had traded Raul, Kaka, Roberto Carlos with Arsenal for Thierry Henry, Reyes and Ashley Cole. Also I had signed V. Persie and Frabegas from Arsenal by transfer.

The match started and neither team had easy possesion of the ball. Arjen Robben who just recovered from injury break thru the left flank a few times and made critical pass to Thierry Henry but he failed to convert them as Aluminia saved most and some out of range. Eto the other forward seem un-contributing on the other side as always being intercepted before he could posses the ball. Before entering stop-page time of 1st half... S. Gerrard once again showed his quality with a struck from the free-kick spot beating down Aluminia.

In da 2nd half, Real played more defense and close down the players a bit. Ronaldo been summoned on the field for Eto and although it does increased the contribution on the right-top... however, still failing to get better. C. Ronaldo and Robben be exchanged for Frabegas and Reyes in the 30th minute of 2nd half as they're tired and the battle of the midfield very tough. Putting some fresh player might give them a boost. After entering stop-page time of 2nd half... Arsenal pushed all their players forward and Kompany failed to clear the ball properly provided Raul struck from the edge of the box to level up. The match ended with 1-1 draw.

The next 'big' league game was against rival Barcelona. Starting from the kick-off, Real putting their opponent's goal in danger with several blast thankx to the great play of Steven Gerrard and Park Ji Sung in the middle supporting the forwards. But Real's tough time started when Stevie G limping off the field in the 25th minute of da 1st half from a tackle from front. Park took the captain band playing on Gerrard's position and Frabegas been exchanged with Gerrard taking Sung's regular spot. From tat time onward till the 30th minute of 2nd half... Real suffering attacks from Barcelona and combination of Sung and Frabegas really difficult to get control of the midfield battle. C. Ronaldo then was replaced with David Beckham and Reyes replaced by Robben who suppose to be resting to clear his fatigue. Few minutes later after the exchange, Real lead the match with an assist from Beckham from the left corner kick to Kompany scoring with a header.

Real also make thru the Champion League Qualifying and now will meet Chelsea once again in the first round of knock out stage. Real also made to the Div. 1 Cup semi-final and won an away-goal against Aston Villa with a perfect free kick from David Beckham with a home game upcoming.

That's all for this time cool.gif

*Robben been out again for 2 weeks doh.gif... he's real good... but also keep injured thou doh.gif*
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I made 3 transfers for my new season.....I've bought xavi,ferdinand and alan smith.....I don't know why i bought alan smith but he looks promising in the future hehehehe......Never regretted buying xavi, contributed alot and score some goals...I'm gonna get a new keeper, preferably chech(is the spelling correct?), my goalie damn suck....watches the ball bounce over his head and goal......

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QUOTE(jonjon87 @ Dec 1 2005, 08:18 PM)
I made 3 transfers for my new season.....I've bought xavi,ferdinand and alan smith.....I don't know why i bought alan smith but he looks promising in the future hehehehe......Never regretted buying xavi, contributed alot and score some goals...I'm gonna get a new keeper, preferably chech(is the spelling correct?), my goalie damn suck....watches the ball bounce over his head and goal......
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Me now leading in da League A with 3 points differ from 2nd placed Chelsea. This is my 4th Division with Real Madrid and hopefully to clinch the title this time. It's difficult to maintain the top spot as now my key-player Gerrard and left flank attacker Robben been out due to injuries. Ji Sung now taking the place and captain band of Gerrard while Frabegas taking Ji Sung's place. Reyes been added to the starting line up also replacing Robben while he's unavailable...

U can try to hunt for a young GK named Marshall... he's tall and well, not bad as a GK I should say wink.gif. Midfielder Gerrard definitely wouldn't disappoint u. Else some young talents C. Ronaldo, Park Ji Sung and Robben. Defender Pique and Kompany definitely be great to be in ur team wink.gif.. *choose players according to ur gameplay style and also formation to be sure nod.gif*
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just had my 1st match of WEFA championship....haiyo, 1st match already against real madrid. Everytime i penetrated their defence thought can score dy...but the cassilas haih buat kacau, blocked so many shots. I also noticed their defenders always mark my alan smith. Unfortunately for them, during a counterattack, 2-4 defenders marking smith who was holding the ball in the box,all i had to do was pass the ball to xavi who is not guarded and goal!!!!

Oh yeah, how does the wefa championship point system works??and how can i check my points?
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QUOTE(jonjon87 @ Dec 3 2005, 01:31 AM)
just had my 1st match of WEFA championship....haiyo, 1st match already against real madrid. Everytime i penetrated their defence thought can score dy...but the cassilas haih buat kacau, blocked so many shots. I also noticed their defenders always mark my alan smith. Unfortunately for them, during a counterattack, 2-4 defenders marking smith who was holding the ball in the box,all i had to do was pass the ball to xavi who is not guarded and goal!!!!

Oh yeah, how does the wefa championship point system works??and how can i check my points?
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WEFA Championship? It's same like our real life's Europe's Champions League smile.gif. Starting with qualifying, if u r the top 2 in da table.. u will be able to qualify for WEFA Championship knock-out round and then u will play HOME & AWAY matches except for the FINAL smile.gif. If u only managed 3rd in da table during the qualifying round... u r entering the another championship... but dunno wat name liao tongue.gif... in my patched one will be named as UEFA Championship biggrin.gif
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im having my first season in 5* Master League
till now i won 3 matches n lost 1 match to villareal
im doing good so far,its just its a bit harder to score than 3* difficulty

im still looking for the right combination for my players
i got lots of young players in the squad biggrin.gif

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vearn27,
ohhh i get it hehehehee but it doesn't seem like knockout to me hehehe.....


haih everyone playing 5* and 6*....guess i have to 'upgrade' also ehehehe. is there a big difference between 4* and 3*?
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QUOTE(jonjon87 @ Dec 3 2005, 02:18 PM)
vearn27,
ohhh i get it hehehehee but it doesn't seem like knockout to me hehehe.....
haih everyone playing 5* and 6*....guess i have to 'upgrade' also ehehehe. is there a big difference between 4* and 3*?
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No need to play 5*... straight ahead go for 6* thumbup.gif... like jiwa said before, u will feel the players get unbalanced... mean opponents stats higher than normal in da game... they also will pressure more on the ball and also player smarter attacks sweat.gif... but it's real happy when u won against CPU that like 'playing cheats' tongue.gif

Perhaps now u r in da 'qualifying' session... or round 1... that's why u r still playing in a table with other 3 teams wink.gif.
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vearn27,

but last season i'm no.1 for D1 wor..........
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QUOTE(jonjon87 @ Dec 3 2005, 06:06 PM)
vearn27,

but last season i'm no.1 for D1 wor..........
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So u r in da 'qualifying' session lo... didnt see meh real-life European Champions League? tongue.gif... 4 teams grouped into 1 and only top 2 of each group will goto the knock-out round of Champions League? tongue.gif

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yeah but in WE9....the timetable .....doesn't say which group i'm in ...hehehehehe nvmlar....confusion~
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QUOTE(jonjon87 @ Dec 6 2005, 12:36 AM)
yeah but in WE9....the timetable .....doesn't say which group i'm in ...hehehehehe nvmlar....confusion~
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Haha... u'll need to check ur progress in ur CUP matches data laugh.gif... just go in where it'll show ur Div. 1 Cup info and then hit [R2] and tada~! tongue.gif
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CEH~ press R2 only izzit??hehehe thankyou~Hows your progress???U all got play online?
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CEH~ press R2 only izzit??hehehe thankyou~Hows your progress???U all got play online?
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Yupz... u can check ur progress there laugh.gif... I didnt boot the game since the last time I updated here... busy with work and studies sweat.gif... I'm looking forward to play on9 via pc version one... but haven't try out thou unsure.gif
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I just finished the quarter final of the Champions League draw against Chelsea..

[HOME] CHELSEA vs REAL MADRID [AWAY]

The top 2 teams of League A meet up in the very first round of Champions League knock-out round which is the quarter final meet-up. Real Madrid snatched the lead in the League A with 3 points ahead of Chelsea with the same scoring difference (goals - conceded). Real Madrid lost their key player Steven Gerrard and left winger Arjen Robben due to injury. Reyes was selected to took Robben's place while as usual Sung will take on Gerrard's place and the band with Gravesen playing his usual position.

The game started and it's quite balanced in the first few minutes with each team struggling to hold possesion of the ball. On the 9th minute, Henry picked up a loose ball at the edge of the box and opened the scoring with a turn-around volley. The match started to get heated and Chelsea grabbed the equaliser 6 minutes later when Gudjonsen broke the 'off-side' trap, run forward with the ball and hit the net. Game stalled at 1-1 until in the 30th minute, once again Gudjonsen hit the net with a long shot from outside the box.

Real Madrid failed to get the ball near the opponent's goal as Eto seem to be lack of 'supporting' on the field. Starting the 2nd half, 15 minutes into the game and J-Cole brought Chelsea up to 3-1 against Real Madrid with a break-thru on the left. Real seem to be hopeless and substituted Eto with Ronaldo on the 25th minute and Fillipe for Pique [RSB]. Real seem to be getting better in front of the opponent's goal but still yet to hold on to find a perfect timing. In the stoppage time of 2nd half, Ronaldo intercepted the ball on the midfield and run forward for a very last chance. While looking at the front 2 defenders running up against him, he made an excellent throught-pass to Reyes who was running forward from behind on the left side. Reyes took the pass and hit the ball pass Chelsea's GK, Cech to made it 3-2.

Result: [HOME] CHELSEA 3 - 2 REAL MADRID [AWAY]


[AWAY] CHELSEA vs REAL MADRID [HOME]

With the return of Steven Gerrard definitely boost the impact of Real, but the down side is 1st choice RMF, C. Ronaldo and CMF, Park Ji Sung were called for national-duty thus making them unavailable. Beckham took the RMF position while Frabegas were to took Sung's. The starting 2 forwards were Ronaldo partnering with Henry. The match started with Real immediate attacks on the goal but failed to convert each of the shots with brilliant saves from Cech.

The match getting harder for Real as Chelsea playing defensively rather than attack. On the 28th minute, with excellent display from Gerrard in the middle head up a through-pass to Henry but the shot went top of the post. Few minutes later Real once again managed to break thru the defense and Beckham run down the flank before turning and back-passing to Ronaldo.. the path was clear but Ronaldo hit the post. Gerrard tried his luck from outside the box but each shot went wide else being saved by Cech.

Into the 2nd half, Chelsea even increased their defensive play and pressuring upon the ball. Real having a tough time passing the ball around and Gudjonsen shocked the defense with a low drive but lucky managed to save by Cassilas. The movement and agility seem to be lowered down coz the field was wet due to the rain on the 1st half. Henry and Ronaldo quickly drained up their stamina for aggressive attacks. On the 25th minute, Ronaldo was substituted with Dijbril Cisse and Henry with Van Persie. 5 minutes later Pique was substituted with Saldago who was resting due to his fatigue.

Van Persie displayed an excellent performance in the league game before. Scoring 2 brilliant goals in 15 minutes. Real hoping Van Persie could cast the magic once again. Indeed, on the 89th minute, Van Persie steal the ball on the mid field and pass a great timed through-pass to Cisse on the right leaving the 2 defenders behind. Cisse head up one on one with Cech and hit a powerful shot.. but once again luck was not on Real's side.. the shot hit the post and concluded with a goal-kick. Into the stoppage time Chelsea put pressure on Real's goal but yet failed to break thru the defense setup by Kompany and Sergio Ramos! Real get the possesion with Gerrard dribbling the ball toward the opponent's goal from the mid field.

Just like before happened in the 1st meet up, Gerrard send the ball down to the left with Reyes at his full pace to get the ball leaving Chelsea's 2 defenders behind. Reyes directed the ball into the left side of the box and hit a low powerful drive. The ball went below Cech's 'ketiak' laugh.gif.. hit the far right post before reflected into the net.. Real scored the winner on aggregate against Chelsea thumbup.gif

Final score: [AWAY] CHELSEA 0 - 1 REAL MADRID [HOME]

Aggregate 3 - 3 but REAL MADRID won with 2 AWAY GOALS~!!!


Phew~! That was really close.. I nearly gave up at the end of match.. but this is Winning Eleven.. anything could happen.. that's why I LOVE THE GAME tongue.gif
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Wow, lots of pro's here, well i am playing the three stars one. I still couldn't find an effective way to break through the opponents defends. When i win, i win by a goal and when i lose i lose by a goal. Frustrating isn't it, and the computer tend to score most of the goals during the injury time which makes me even piss. Haha, anyway is there any tactics that u guys are using and is effective?
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Wow, lots of pro's here, well i am playing the three stars one. I still couldn't find an effective way to break through the opponents defends. When i win, i win by a goal and when i lose i lose by a goal. Frustrating isn't it, and the computer tend to score most of the goals during the injury time which makes me even piss. Haha, anyway is there any tactics that u guys are using and is effective?
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Defend. Close down the passing channels. I'm sure you're conceding last minute goals from CPU crosses into the box. konw I did when I was on 3 star.
For offence, shoot on sight.

My opinions on the diffiulty levels:

1 star - too easy 'tutup mata can play' Expect 8-0 scores in 10mins match
2 star - just nice for beginners. Once you have the hang of it can easily get 4-0 scores in 10mins match.

3 star. Default dificulty. In WE9/PES5, this level is actually quite difficult. The CPU will defend very deep, but still attacks as per 2 star. Can get 1-0/2-0 scores in 10mins match. CPU is noticebly better than your players.

4star. The most difficult, IMO. CPU defends very deep, attacks only slightly better. CPU will press aggressively. Mostly 1-0 scores (at least for me)

5star. A good level. Not easy but you'll get the hang of it quickly enough. Contraty to popular belief, 5star is actually more satisfying than the lower levels.

CPU is more aggressive and presses play very well. You have to fight to keep possesion and silly mistakes will be punished. On this level CPU attacks very well and is dangerous. Any lapse of concentration defensively will be punished. But because CPU is attacking well, you can also counterattack them and catch them off guard very often. Varied scores, but you'll enjoy the matches even if you get 0-0.

6-star. IMO, not worth it. Play becomes very quick and unbalanced. More ping pong soccer than anything else. It's a novelty if anything else. So far I can't really seem to enjoy this mode.

One important fact that should be noted is when you go up a difficulty level, not only does the CPU play becomes more intelligent, so does the play of your AI controlled players.

Whereas in 2 or 3 star they would just stand there, in 5 star you can see them move to make timely interceptions, and good runs, react to passes better. At least as far as I've noticed. Of course, you don't havemuch time to dilly dally on the ball, as you'd get closed down quickly. But by the time you're trying 5-star you should have a firm grasp of the advanced controls and their impact, and the key at this level is controlling the game and making space/chances. Player abilities are also more acutely potrayed (although some might argue on the speed isuue). Things like shot control, accuracy, technique, special abilities, reaction times make a big difference.

At this level, fielding the right team for a match based on your opposition squad is important. Knowing you players ability and strengths is important. And playing to those abilities and strength is what will win you games.

And therein lies the enjoyment (also frustation) like no other.

Cheerio,
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Haha... it's good to see Jiwa back in here... anyway dude, where have u been? Only active on da PES5's thread? tongue.gif

I quite agree with what Jiwa mentioned regarding the difficulty level thingy... at 6 stars (I had played it for 3 seasons and still continuing now), the opponent players like ate drugs or some power up shakehead.gif ... they even can even play at their 'limit' for the whole 10 mins match doh.gif ... the frustration I had like I'm controlling one player at each time with my team but CPU is controlling all in da same time sweat.gif ...

But neway, some time u still can see some spectacular self-satisfactory performance with ur player.. like my Ronaldo scored the goal when 4 players charging from all 4 directions (oh... mau buat men sandwich laugh.gif) and the GK rushing out to stop him... thumbup.gif *extremelly brilliant solo-effort and worth while playing the replay a few times tongue.gif*

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QUOTE(crystal_kit85 @ Dec 18 2005, 09:49 PM)
Wow, lots of pro's here, well i am playing the three stars one. I still couldn't find an effective way to break through the opponents defends. When i win, i win by a goal and when i lose i lose by a goal. Frustrating isn't it, and the computer tend to score most of the goals during the injury time which makes me even piss. Haha, anyway is there any tactics that u guys are using and is effective?
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YAY! same case with me......i'm so happy i dont know why...maybe because we are at the same level? cause ppl like jiwa and vearn are crazy people...they play 6 star and still win 3-0.....

Well,at first i always draw in 3 star..find it hard to win,but slowly i got used to it, and get some better players for ur team, understanding ur formation etc....you'll begin to score.
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But neway, some time u still can see some spectacular self-satisfactory performance with ur player.. like my Ronaldo scored the goal when 4 players charging from all 4 directions (oh... mau buat men sandwich laugh.gif) and the GK rushing out to stop him... thumbup.gif *extremelly brilliant solo-effort and worth while playing the replay a few times tongue.gif*
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ROnaldo with 5 players charging to him????thats a miracle, 2 def guarding me, i'll start looking for opportunities to pass....

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QUOTE(jonjon87 @ Dec 21 2005, 04:28 PM)
YAY! same case with me......i'm so happy i dont know why...maybe because we are at the same level? cause ppl like jiwa and vearn are crazy people...they play 6 star and still win 3-0.....

Well,at first i always draw in 3 star..find it hard to win,but slowly i got used to it, and get some better players for ur team, understanding ur formation etc....you'll begin to score.

ROnaldo with 5 players charging to him????thats a miracle, 2 def guarding me, i'll start looking for opportunities to pass....
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Hehe... please dun say in that way la... as if we're born specialists for this soccer game sweat.gif ... U'll be surprised when u know the amount of time I had spent for the game so far... not to mention I'm only so-so level compared to those competition pros out there sweat.gif *those r the real pros thumbup.gif*

At first I started with 2 stars... coz I can't even hold possesion of the ball in 3 stars, so what to talk about scoring back then shakehead.gif ... after a few seasons with 2 stars, I'm getting straight wins all da time and thus moved to 3 stars. I still felt some difficulty back then on 3 stars but least I still managed to score. That time I thought I'm already real good in that game and then one day I was challenged by a guy at a PlayStation games corner. Haha... the game ended up I lost 2 and draw once in 3 games doh.gif ... From that day onwards, I keep playing at highest difficulty level tongue.gif *can say I'm kiasu wacko.gif*

Yeap... it's like a miracle for Ronaldo (my player) to score under such condition... he managed shot the ball at the blank space left by the sandwiching players and GK lust.gif ... that's why I said worth while to watch the replay a few times thumbup.gif
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hahaha i even worst leh....team up with a a friend who doesn't play winning eleven versus my friend. me and my friend were using a famous national team while our opponent uses a saudi arabia. Me and my friend got thrashed 4-0....
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hahhaha what a day lol.....2 own goals and 1 deflection thats funny....
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*sigh* Arjen Robben really good... but he's getting injured easily sad.gif

Finally finished my 4th season with Real Madrid and this time managed to grab the Div. 1 League Trophy with just 2 points ahead of Barcelona thumbup.gif ... considered a 'treble' for the galaticos since we won the Div. Cup and Champions League as well laugh.gif ... the best is Steven Gerrard voted as the 'OVERALL BEST PLAYER' for the Div. 1 League, the Div. 1 Cup and also Champions League... he also the top scorer in the Div. 1 Cup thumbup.gif
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haha....vearn whats ur style of play?
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QUOTE(jonjon87 @ Dec 24 2005, 01:35 PM)
haha....vearn whats ur style of play?
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My style of play? blink.gif ... Frankly, it's difficult to describe unless u gimme a few selection sweat.gif

Well, could say my style of play varies depending on my opponents. I'll switch my gameplay accordingly to score in the match, even switching players also wink.gif . Some teams with loose and wide defensive style, I'll try to get my players dribble to pass them and vice versa to those who play pressure and tight defensive, I'll pass the ball around till I found an opportunity to hit a 'through pass' to pass the defenders or another way to get ride of them tongue.gif .

Usually my key player to attack is Steven Gerrard in the middle together with Park Ji Sung. Sung will play as a 'supporter' to Gerrard and Gerrard as a 'supporter' to the forwards. Gerrard capable of playing the ball around the midfield and also controlling it. He sort of capable of covering a big playing area and also dangerous to the opponent's goal with his shooting range. So normally I will initiate the attack starting from Gerrard. Then depending on the opponent's defensive style and also preference to play on the right, left, middle or balanced.. I'll have choices to pass the ball to Robben (left) or C. Ronaldo (right), else pass forward to the forwards, Henry and Ronaldo.

If I'm yet failed to find the spot to pass and starting to lose my ball possesion. I'll back pass to Sung and then he'll take over Gerrard's duty as Gerrard will be going side or forward to disturb the defensive. In the other way the sidebacks very important as well, especially during tight defensive who really need a big round of passing the ball around wink.gif . All this sometime seem impossible as we only controlling one player, but we can set their 'attack directions' and also other behaviour to get them 80% according to what we wanted nod.gif

There's still varies of playing style and will slowly developed when u play the game more and try to understand it. But the bad thing is CPU will usually uses the few 'styles' and u will get to read them soon. So, even thou u r a pro playing with someone who's new, u might be facing something tougher than 6 stars as u already get used to CPU's playing styles tongue.gif

Again, I will rotate what I did as I mentioned earlier to get as near as possible to the opponent's goal and then find the 'blank' space left by the defenders.. else a cross and pray hard laugh.gif
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U need to be picky also with the players to suit ur playing style. That's why I said sometime I even do switch players together with styles. Most of the time I'll be prefering fast paced players with great acceleration and responsive like Henry, Ronaldo, Robben and C. Ronaldo. I rarely like slow players as they're intercepted before passing the ball out sad.gif ... however, in tight defensive.. I would like to challenge them in slow pace when fast doesn't work out tongue.gif

Players like Raul and V. Persie, although both also slow in pace but capable of doing great finishing when the timing is correct. So, it's u who determine the player's performance and not the stat. But still I let go Raul for Henry coz I dislike playing with slow ppl tongue.gif ... V. Persie should be a good invest for me since he's doing good in my team. Usually summoned as substitute, but yet he could score in the few final minutes. But that's only when opponent playing more aggresively upwards when they're losing laugh.gif

For defenders and GK, dun look 'low' at those players with poor stats... they might perform very very good indeed wink.gif
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wah..got style oso..
4 me..keep possesion, short passes..and long range shoot..
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hmm...for me..style is important in playing WE...yaa...coz people will look and say..."waaa laa weii...got style laa u main..."

for me..i like to play fast...so i will used team that really good on forward and midfield...so what i do...attack...midfield thru pass...forward receive and score goal...biggrin.gif but some time need to change style also laa...later people will realise...by then...u dead already laa...huhuhu...

sometime like to dribble..just want to practice player control...but i found out that opponent get really tension and feel annoyying if i can dribble pass all their player...hahahahahah...but seriusly..if anyone out there really good in player handling..u used Brazil..u really can dribble the whole team..watch one of my friend already....so what else can i do to stop the dribble...only by tackle all feet of Brazil player for sure..smile.gif)
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man, long time din play WE9..
PS2 died on me sad.gif and i'm not used with the PC version

my style is chip pass, and chip shot XD
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Haha... chip pass could really be deadly if executed at the right timing thumbup.gif ... after all, it's one of the best 'weapon' to break the 'off-side trap' and get away from the defenders wink.gif
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i do all possible things to get the goal
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Haha... chip pass could really be deadly if executed at the right timing thumbup.gif ... after all, it's one of the best 'weapon' to break the 'off-side trap' and get away from the defenders wink.gif
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How do we do chip is it by pressing O only. Because in ps1 u can actually press L1 and the shoot button it will automatically chip.
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no no no,
chip pass by pressing L1+ Triangle

you're talking about chip shot..

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Sheep319 was right, it's executed with 'L1' + 'Triangle' combination thumbup.gif
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Ohh ok thanks, btw is there any combination of button to make special moves, all i know is keep on pressing L1 and they will do some step over, how about turning ur body to dribble past defenders like what Ronaldo does?
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Ohh ok thanks, btw is there any combination of button to make special moves, all i know is keep on pressing L1 and they will do some step over, how about turning  ur body to dribble past defenders like what Ronaldo does?
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Frankly, those special moves seem to be useless at times and just for fancy look sweat.gif ... best still stick with those normals moves wink.gif ... I suggest u go thru the whole training tutorial wink.gif
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My 5th season starting with Real Madrid...

Ah... my Thierry Henry out for 11 weeks cry.gif ... left Ronaldo, Dijbril Cisse, Eto, Van Persie and Baptista as selection for forwards sweat.gif ... yet none of them really can fit into my 'regular requirements' shakehead.gif ... Anyway, for this season... Thierry Henry and my key player, Steven Gerrard started to degrade already... Gerrard failed to make the impact on the field as before and failed in a lot of shot which expected him to score. It all gone wide now or less powerful.

Thierry Henry yet also degrading and kept on getting out from his way. Ronaldo yet the same, already degraded also shakehead.gif. Can say my best bet now is Van Persie. Cisse and Eto up and down their performance. The defensive getting better after I switched Kompany as regular than Woodgate and secured Pique service as substitute. Ashley Cole and Chivu remained on the sidebacks. On the right there's C. Ronaldo and the other side is Arjen Robben. Middle remain Stevie G and also Park Ji Sung. Reyes been performing very well as forward and midfield. Frabegas less summoned on the field but yet he's another capable player.

Ranked 3rd in da league now with 4 points behind Arsenal and 6 points behind Chelsea with another game in hand against both of them. The match against Chelsea was tough as Real desperately needed a win against them to cut the distance from 9 points ahead. Real been performing moderately and it's another blow when Henry is off for 11 weeks. The match started with Eto and Ronaldo paired up on the front with the rest remained as regular picks.

10 minutes from the kick-off and Crespo scored with an excellent turn-over volley from a cross from the left. Real seem in miserable after a goal down so fast. However, 11 minutes later C. Ronaldo level up with a brilliant excuted free kick right out from the box and hit the post before crossing the goal line. The match continued with superb run from Eto but his shots kept on went wide. On the 40th minute, Eto didnt get wrong this time and brilliantly get over the defender with a thru pass from S. Gerrard and hit the back of the net passing Cech and made up the score 2-1.

Into the 2nd half and Eto kept putting the opposite goal in danger. Chelsea tried hard to gain back possesion but Real just too good for them this time. Bout 25 minutes later into the 2nd half.. Eto once again loosen himself from the defenders and running toward the goal dribbling the ball. His shot was on target and Cech managed to pull out an excellent diving save. However, Cech failed to push the ball far away and Ronaldo reached on the right time and kick the ball in. Real managed a 3-1 win against Chelsea and cut the lead from 9 points to 6 points.

That's all for this time cool.gif

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Just continued my story in WE9 a bit yesterday tongue.gif ...

Even with Thierry Henry out due to injury, Real Madrid still blasting their way thru the league and the cups smoothly thankx to superb performance from Eto and also promising player Van Persie, not to mention Dijbril Cisse did performing very good as well. Real won against Newcastle United 1-0 in away game after draw 2-2 in their home game setting them a clash with league leader Chelsea.

In league meeting against rival Barcelona with captain S. Gerrard and regular leftback Ashley Cole rested due to their fatique after returning from national duty, Eto and Cisse taking up the front while Park Ji Sung with the captain band and Frabegas covering the middle and Chivu on the leftback with Saldago on the rightback setting up the lineup against them. The match started on a rainy day and Eto netted the first goal just 6 minutes from the kickoff.

Real continued their possesion on the wet field and the 2nd opportunity came right away when Robben was tripped off in the box thus resulting a penalty. Ronaldo stepped to the spot and targetted the lower right side, but Barcelona's GK Victor Valdes dived to the correct side and saved the penalty. The match continued and Ronaldo managed to loosen himself from the defenders on the 21st minute and performed a shot feint against the GK before driving sideway and hit the net for the 2nd goal revenging his saved penalty against Victor Valdes.

Barcelona been having tough time playing the ball in front of Real's goal as the galaticos defending very well. Ronaldinho seem has tried every of his effort to pass the ball forward but yet kept being intercepted. Anyway, Ronaldinho managed to find the space among the defenders and setting up their first goal for Iniesta's finishing, Real leading 2-1. Ronaldo once again broke thru the defense and running forward to 1 on 1 against Valdes but then he was pushed on the back right at the edge of the box resulting a 2nd penalty. This time around, Ronaldo took it and shot the ball hitting the upper goal post before reflected in for his 2nd goal. Brilliant, it's just extremely brilliant penalty~! thumbup.gif

The 2nd half started with 3-1 score on the board as Real Madrid leading. Park Ji Sung and Frabages taking up good covering in the middle. Robben broke thru a few times but failed to hit on the target as his shots went wide. He was then fouled outside the box on the left side facing Barca's goal on the 63rd minute. C. Ronaldo curved the ball up to the top left corner just enough to get over the wall thus converting the freekick to Real's 4th goal. He was then fouled in da box on the 70th minute and Ronaldo completed his hattrick this time with a shot to the right side with Valdes diving the opposite side. Ronaldo, Frabegas and Chivu were then substituted by Van Persie, Gravesen and Raul Bravo. The game ended with Real Madrid thrashing Barcelona 5-1 thumbup.gif
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Hehe... please dun say in that way la... as if we're born specialists for this soccer game sweat.gif ... U'll be surprised when u know the amount of time I had spent for the game so far... not to mention I'm only so-so level compared to those competition pros out there sweat.gif *those r the real pros thumbup.gif*

At first I started with 2 stars... coz I can't even hold possesion of the ball in 3 stars, so what to talk about scoring back then shakehead.gif ... after a few seasons with 2 stars, I'm getting straight wins all da time and thus moved to 3 stars. I still felt some difficulty back then on 3 stars but least I still managed to score. That time I thought I'm already real good in that game and then one day I was challenged by a guy at a PlayStation games corner. Haha... the game ended up I lost 2 and draw once in 3 games doh.gif ... From that day onwards, I keep playing at highest difficulty level tongue.gif *can say I'm kiasu wacko.gif*

Yeap... it's like a miracle for Ronaldo (my player) to score under such condition... he managed shot the ball at the blank space left by the sandwiching players and GK lust.gif ... that's why I said worth while to watch the replay a few times thumbup.gif
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Anotehr peice of advice is understand the tactical implications of the game. At higher levels just knowing the controls isn't enough, you have to make sound tactical and strategy changes to suit you opponents play.

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Haha... it's good to see Jiwa back in here... anyway dude, where have u been? Only active on da PES5's thread? tongue.gif

I quite agree with what Jiwa mentioned regarding the difficulty level thingy... at 6 stars (I had played it for 3 seasons and still continuing now), the opponent players like ate drugs or some power up shakehead.gif ... they even can even play at their 'limit' for the whole 10 mins match doh.gif ... the frustration I had like I'm controlling one player at each time with my team but CPU is controlling all in da same time sweat.gif ...

But neway, some time u still can see some spectacular self-satisfactory performance with ur player.. like my Ronaldo scored the goal when 4 players charging from all 4 directions (oh... mau buat men sandwich laugh.gif) and the GK rushing out to stop him... thumbup.gif *extremelly brilliant solo-effort and worth while playing the replay a few times tongue.gif*
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He.he.e vearn27. Miss me eh? Sorry mate, very busy with work right now, so only can curi a bit of time every now and then. Input on PES theread bcoz im actively playing that right now (although I still prefer WE9) Last year I promised myself to give a proper run-out with PES. In the past I always reverted back to WE after a couple of weeks with PES.

Planning to go back to WE9 though, as soon as I complete my season 5 in PES. There are some gameplay issues that are bothering me, which I find less annoying in WE9.

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Haha... chip pass could really be deadly if executed at the right timing ... after all, it's one of the best 'weapon' to break the 'off-side trap' and get away from the defenders
I don't seem to be able to use the chip through pass at all in the WE9. Previous WE, chip through pass was my fav weapon tongue.gif


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hahaha i even worst leh....team up with a a friend who doesn't play winning eleven versus my friend. me and my friend were using a famous national team while our opponent uses a saudi arabia. Me and my friend got thrashed 4-0....
Haha... i too have this problem. Am currently playing 5 star difficulty level in WE9. But when playing againts my friend who btw plays WE 5 or 6(cant remember, but its on the PSOne!!). Always need to slug it out just to beat him sweat.gif
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I don't seem to be able to use the chip through pass at all in the WE9. Previous WE, chip through pass was my fav weapon  tongue.gif
Haha... i too have this problem. Am currently playing 5 star difficulty level in WE9. But when playing againts my friend who btw plays WE 5 or 6(cant remember, but its on the PSOne!!). Always need to slug it out just to beat him  sweat.gif
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Human oppponents are very different from AI. They will learn and adapt to counter your style of play. No matter how high you play against CPU, eventually you'll get set in certain style of play and strategy to bet the CPU, and you'll get used to how CPU responds. When you play agaimst human, all this usddenly wont work, and unless you're able to quickly adapt to the opponent, you'll be surprisingly frustated.

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QUOTE(alienLYN @ Jan 4 2006, 12:47 AM)
I don't seem to be able to use the chip through pass at all in the WE9. Previous WE, chip through pass was my fav weapon  tongue.gif
Haha... i too have this problem. Am currently playing 5 star difficulty level in WE9. But when playing againts my friend who btw plays WE 5 or 6(cant remember, but its on the PSOne!!). Always need to slug it out just to beat him  sweat.gif
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Initially, I felt the chipped thru ball in WE9/PES was problematic, but actually its been reworked to me made less successful. Only players with high technique/passing will be able to do it well consistently.

Also makes a big difference, whether you passer is moving fast/slow/still and the general direction to be more in-line with the intended pass.

(blind passes are less likely to succeed). The success/failure IMO, rests more with defences lying deeper in than previous versions, so opportunities for releasing hte killer ball over the top are not very often. (i loved it in WE8LE).

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QUOTE(jiwa @ Jan 4 2006, 10:52 AM)
Human oppponents are very different from AI. They will learn and adapt to counter your style of play. No matter how high you play against CPU, eventually you'll get set in certain style of play and strategy to bet the CPU, and you'll get used to how CPU responds. When you play agaimst human, all this usddenly wont work, and unless you're able to quickly adapt to the opponent, you'll be surprisingly frustated.

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jiwa definitely right about it nod.gif . I can play at 6 stars but it's even tougher when I'm against my fren who only know how to play the game with basic controls sweat.gif . After u had spent some time to play against the CPU, most of the movements, strategies and tactics will be able to noticed and counterback easily once u get used to it. But human is different, they still can come out with something that we couldn't expect wink.gif ... that's the fun when against human AI... show ur true power thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(jiwa @ Jan 4 2006, 11:04 AM)
Initially, I felt the chipped thru ball in WE9/PES was problematic, but actually its been reworked to me made less successful. Only players with high technique/passing will be able to do it well consistently.

Also makes a big difference, whether you passer is moving fast/slow/still and the general  direction to be more in-line with the intended pass.

(blind passes are less likely to succeed). The success/failure IMO, rests more with defences lying deeper in than previous versions, so opportunities for releasing hte killer ball over the top are not very often. (i loved it in WE8LE).

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There's another thing I wanted to add to jiwa's explanation... even thou u got good passer like Beckham and Steven Gerrard doing the chipped thru pass, it's another story whether ur receiver will be able to control the ball or not sweat.gif ... most of the time the defenders will be able to intercept or push u away from getting the ball easily... but even thou they're not, u'll still experience the problem to control the ball from the air before able to dribble it on the field... but one thing I kinda hate in 6 stars difficulty, no matter has fast is the speed and acceleration of ur players have, the CPU's players still being able to chase up from behind doh.gif (damm, it's NOT FAIR!!! vmad.gif )

Hahaha.. laugh.gif
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Neway, sometime it's really fun and satisfactory when u against 6 stars CPU... there's another time when I'm against 'sandwiching players' laugh.gif ... Eto received a pass from Steven Gerrard outside the penalty box and straight away drive the ball in getting away from 1 of the 4 'sandwiching' defenders... then another defender join the 'sandwiching' from the side thus making 4 players 'sandwiching' again... but Eto drive inward summore and the shot thru the defenders and the GK failed to save it... GOOOOAAALLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

Wahaha... it's really fun and high satisfactory when u against CPU players that as if they took drugs already... performing extremely unusual tongue.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Jan 4 2006, 11:34 AM)
Neway, sometime it's really fun and satisfactory when u against 6 stars CPU... there's another time when I'm against 'sandwiching players' laugh.gif ... Eto received a pass from Steven Gerrard outside the penalty box and straight away drive the ball in getting away from 1 of the 4 'sandwiching' defenders... then another defender join the 'sandwiching' from the side thus making 4 players 'sandwiching' again... but Eto drive inward summore and the shot thru the defenders and the GK failed to save it... GOOOOAAALLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

Wahaha... it's really fun and high satisfactory when u against CPU players that as if they took drugs already... performing extremely unusual tongue.gif
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He.he.he.he whistling.gif Don't play on 6* my friend. Make you sick. Honestly, sometimes I even find 5* terribily irritating. Most of you all ML kaki's would have experienced this by now. You'd be winning a few games on the trot and suddenly your teams performance declines. Your players seem out of sorts, can't string passess together, are woeful infront of goal and you defenders left their brains in the dressing room.
You'd struggle like this for a few matches before things are back to normal again.

A tip to anyone: Use the 1st touch moves intelligently (but not all the time) It makes a big difference if use use/don't use it at the right moment. Even a miscontrolled ball can be turned into an advantage and wrong foot the defender.

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There's another thing I wanted to add to jiwa's explanation... even thou u got good passer like Beckham and Steven Gerrard doing the chipped thru pass, it's another story whether ur receiver will be able to control the ball or not sweat.gif ... most of the time the defenders will be able to intercept or push u away from getting the ball easily... but even thou they're not, u'll still experience the problem to control the ball from the air before able to dribble it on the field... but one thing I kinda hate in 6 stars difficulty, no matter has fast is the speed and acceleration of ur players have, the CPU's players still being able to chase up from behind doh.gif (damm, it's NOT FAIR!!! vmad.gif )

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When to use or not to use 1st touch (R2 or R1 +direction), that is the question my friends.
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As far as the chasing, on 5* ++, no way to get around it, you only have a small window to make use of your advantage before the DF catches up. But mixing with your speed can throw the momentum off. But then again, if you play on 2 or 3 stars than your speed advantage = turbo. Not so good either.

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He.he.he.he whistling.gif Don't play on 6* my friend. Make you sick. Honestly, sometimes I even find 5* terribily irritating. Most of you all ML kaki's would have experienced this by now. You'd be winning a few games on the trot and suddenly your teams performance declines. Your players seem out of sorts, can't string passess together, are woeful infront of goal and you defenders left their brains in the dressing room.
You'd struggle like this for a few matches before things are back to normal again.

A tip to anyone: Use the 1st touch moves intelligently (but not all the time) It makes a big difference if use use/don't use it at the right moment. Even a miscontrolled ball can be turned into an advantage and wrong foot the defender.

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Well, already get used to 6* ... always like FAIR play vs UNFAIR play laugh.gif

Yupz, I did experienced like what u said too... sometime ur team will sky rocket their performance and then sometime will go down low low till even weak team also difficult to play against with. This applies to the players too as well, not only the whole team effect all da time. But I take these as those 'time' where u'll need extra concentration and also determination to score and win in the match.. but it really generate frustration sometime shakehead.gif
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i'm currently using Man Utd in Master League. Is it normal for players stamina to get really low during mid season?

its like all of my 1st team players usually have their stamina at half even before the match starts. Players like Rooney, Nistelrooy and esp Ronaldo. Luckily, in master league there's the mid season break... else... players all sure die of exhaustion tongue.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Jan 4 2006, 02:54 PM)
Well, already get used to 6* ... always like FAIR play vs UNFAIR play laugh.gif

Yupz, I did experienced like what u said too... sometime ur team will sky rocket their performance and then sometime will go down low low till even weak team also difficult to play against with. This applies to the players too as well, not only the whole team effect all da time. But I take these as those 'time' where u'll need extra concentration and also determination to score and win in the match.. but it really generate frustration sometime shakehead.gif
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That's freaking amazingly true shakehead.gif

Every season... few matches before playing Chelsea, i will be winning few matches on the trot. And the climax will be againts Chelsea where i surprisingly usually trash them(happens every season) 4-0, 5-0.

Then somehow like some magical curse or sumtin bestow upon me, i would like draw/lose the next few matches. Just like the Man Utd last season... shots on goal like 15-20, but cant score doh.gif

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i'm currently using Man Utd in Master League. Is it normal for players stamina to get really low during mid season?

its like all of my 1st team players usually have their stamina at half even before the match starts. Players like Rooney, Nistelrooy and esp Ronaldo. Luckily, in master league there's the mid season break... else... players all sure die of exhaustion  tongue.gif
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During mid season, there's a lot more matches (league + cups) and mostly filled up each week with 2 matches thus making ur players getting more fatigue if u keep on playing them all da time. So what I do is always rotate the players during that period and kept my eyes on their fatigue level (the bar below their stamina bar). Players like Steven Gerrard and Park Ji Sung slowly collect and quickly heal their fatigue bar, but others like Arjen Robben and Ronaldo quickly fill them up. Just rotate them with their substitutes when u see the fatigue bar filling up, unless u really need them for big matches. For that reason, the calendar is useful for u to see which big teams are on their way. Plan ur rotation by then wink.gif

QUOTE(alienLYN @ Jan 4 2006, 09:56 PM)
That's freaking amazingly true shakehead.gif

Every season... few matches before playing Chelsea, i will be winning few matches on the trot. And the climax will be againts Chelsea where i surprisingly usually trash them(happens every season) 4-0, 5-0.

Then somehow like some magical curse or sumtin bestow upon me, i would like draw/lose the next few matches. Just like the Man Utd last season... shots on goal like 15-20, but cant score  doh.gif
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In my league, Chelsea is really solid strong at the beginning of the season. So far lost only 2 games (including losing 1 game to me tongue.gif) and draw none. I'm ranked 3rd and trailing 3 points behind them with 3 draws and 2 lost while Arsenal ahead of me. My key player Gerrard and Henry started to degrade and further blow when Henry is out for 11 weeks (u'll know if u got read my ML's story I posted here). Now I'm preying on Eto, Cisse, Ronaldo and Van Persie up front to do the magic.

All their performance really up and down thus making me difficult to pick the selection each time. Ronaldo who started to degrade suddenly scored a hattrick against tough team Barca. Eto been showing poor performance but lately getting his name on the score sheet, this applies to Cisse as well. Van Persie in the other way make me feel he's like another 'Raul' to me. Slow and weak but able to hit on target sometime. He's my bet when Ronaldo and Henry retired or totally out of form. But when all of them out of form, it's even difficult to get them receive the pass doh.gif . Gotta secure some forwards during the upcoming transfer window nod.gif
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Spot on vearn27,

Accumulated fatigue in WE9/PES5 is a great addition but poorly implemented IMO. Players get tired after even after only one match a week for 3 consecutive weeks. How realistic is that??? I understand if its 2 matches a week + cup and CL games it's believable. NAd GK just standing there also can 'pancit' big time.

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Advise to others is to get a big enough squad. (no need superstars for ur 2nd liners), and then plan using the calendar to rotate your key players in and out accordingly.

As mentioned before, also keep track of each players stamina rating. Those with higher stamina will recover faster so resting for one match is enough. With others sometimes need 2-3 matches rest.

I usually rest my key performers 2 games before a big match, and run out my juniors (especialy for those D1 Cup games)

@vearn27 - Try Schwarz & Babel as forwards. Although for Schwarz, you have to allow a season or two to get his stats up.

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@jiwa

Actually I had tried to search for Schwarz but if not mistaken it didnt come back with any result sweat.gif ... would u mind to tell which team they're in as perhaps in my differently patched WE9 got different name? unsure.gif Will then put myself to check on Babel, thankx for ur recommendation. It crack my head to find for players sweat.gif

Yupz, as u mentioned.. certain players really fill their fatigue gauge at an extreme rate.. just like my young Arjen Robben doh.gif ... at certain times need to rest him for 2 weeks just to regain from fatigue he accumulated in 1 week shakehead.gif ... Both Robben and Reyes also playing good as ST, but Robben got better passing and also reaction with fast pace (not according to stats as I seldom check on it but it's based on my experience with that player). U can feel there's like a 'flexibility' when controlling him than Reyes. Reyes in the other way is better in dogfight and tough game, also he's less getting injured than Robben.

Yaya.. sometimes I also feel weird with the GKs. At certain time they even faster lost their stamina while in the game compared to my other players sweat.gif ... even in game which opponent poorly doing attacking shocking.gif
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@jiwa

Actually I had tried to search for Schwarz but if not mistaken it didnt come back with any result sweat.gif ... would u mind to tell which team they're in as perhaps in my differently patched WE9 got different name? unsure.gif Will then put myself to check on Babel, thankx for ur recommendation. It crack my head to find for players sweat.gif

Yupz, as u mentioned.. certain players really fill their fatigue gauge at an extreme rate.. just like my young Arjen Robben doh.gif ... at certain times need to rest him for 2 weeks just to regain from fatigue he accumulated in 1 week shakehead.gif ... Both Robben and Reyes also playing good as ST, but Robben got better passing and also reaction with fast pace (not according to stats as I seldom check on it but it's based on my experience with that player). U can feel there's like a 'flexibility' when controlling him than Reyes. Reyes in the other way is better in dogfight and tough game, also he's less getting injured than Robben.

Yaya.. sometimes I also feel weird with the GKs. At certain time they even faster lost their stamina while in the game compared to my other players sweat.gif ... even in game which opponent poorly doing attacking shocking.gif
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Schwarz and Babel are both AI generated fictional players. They are usually found in the newcomers section. What season of ML are you in. Schwarz appears after season 2, and babel 1 season after(i think). If ur in Season 5-6 these guys may have been signed by other CPU controlled teams.

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QUOTE(jiwa @ Jan 6 2006, 09:14 AM)
Schwarz and Babel are both AI generated fictional players. They are usually found in the newcomers section. What season of ML are you in. Schwarz appears after season 2, and babel 1 season after(i think). If ur in Season 5-6 these guys may have been signed by other CPU controlled teams.

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Argh... I'm in my 5th season now with Real Madrid doh.gif ... neway, I got a lot of cash to spare tongue.gif ... As always, after played a few seasons I would have a lot of cash in hand. But up to certain extent, Konami did like used 'cheat' to make us not to win every of the match and also league/cup easily... it's good also although seem like FAIR play vs UNFAIR play... coz I remember when I was playing WE7I and that time only 5* the hardest difficulty level... I won each match easily till I had accumulated a lot of cash enough to buy some great players and then trade it with those cheap players from the clubs in my league to make it even more competitive sweat.gif ... but well, after a season of two they would drop them coz couldn't pay their salaries doh.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Jan 6 2006, 09:26 AM)
Argh... I'm in my 5th season now with Real Madrid doh.gif ... neway, I got a lot of cash to spare tongue.gif ... As always, after played a few seasons I would have a lot of cash in hand. But up to certain extent, Konami did like used 'cheat' to make us not to win every of the match and also league/cup easily... it's good also although seem like FAIR play vs UNFAIR play... coz I remember when I was playing WE7I and that time only 5* the hardest difficulty level... I won each match easily till I had accumulated a lot of cash enough to buy some great players and then trade it with those cheap players from the clubs in my league to make it even more competitive sweat.gif ... but well, after a season of two they would drop them coz couldn't pay their salaries doh.gif
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Yeah, my newest round of ML, just on season 3 now. Already got 80K++ with salary only 20K/season.(5*).

Yeah I guess, the game is too easy when it come to negotiations, as there and no other expeses to pay other than salaries. Iw ould rather the game allow you to hire/pay for non playing satff like cocahes and physios too. And implement things like goal/assist bonus payments to players.

Right now after 5 season you're almost untouchable if you use 'matchmode'.

Only way is to start ML on 5*, with default (konami) team or custom team, and set low staring WEN/PES.

That way will struggle to get out of div2 for a few seasons until you build up a good team, after that, I guess it'll be the same.

Cheers.

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Yeah, my newest round of ML, just on season 3 now. Already got 80K++ with salary only 20K/season.(5*).

Yeah I guess, the game is too easy when it come to negotiations, as there and no other expeses to pay other than salaries. Iw ould rather the game allow you to hire/pay for non playing satff like cocahes and physios too. And implement things like goal/assist bonus payments to players.

Right now after 5 season you're almost untouchable if you use 'matchmode'.

Only way is to start ML on 5*, with default (konami) team or custom team, and set low staring WEN/PES.

That way will struggle to get out of div2 for a few seasons until you build up a good team, after that, I guess it'll be the same.

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QUOTE(jiwa @ Jan 6 2006, 06:09 PM)
Yeah, my newest round of ML, just on season 3 now. Already got 80K++ with salary only 20K/season.(5*).

Yeah I guess, the game is too easy when it come to negotiations, as there and no other expeses to pay other than salaries. Iw ould rather the game allow you to hire/pay for non playing satff like cocahes and physios too. And implement things like goal/assist bonus payments to players.

Right now after 5 season you're almost untouchable if you use 'matchmode'.

Only way is to start ML on 5*, with default (konami) team or custom team, and set low staring WEN/PES.

That way will struggle to get out of div2 for a few seasons until you build up a good team, after that, I guess it'll be the same.

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Yeaps... but still it's better compared to WE7 series... the player or club for sure will agree for the transfer if the offer above the player's value sweat.gif ... but since WE8 and above, it's not that easy anymore wink.gif . Hehe, it sounds like u wanna mix WE & Football Manager game brows.gif ... It would be hell a lot of fun and confusing then laugh.gif

Just played a few matches yesterday and oh my god ohmy.gif ... First my Robben is out for 4 weeks and then my Chivu is out for 7 weeks doh.gif ... Now both of them added to the injury list together with Henry sweat.gif ... In the league draw against Man. United thus expanding the distance to 5 points from the league leader, Chelsea. Lucky the next match against Bolton scored 2 late goals on 89th and 90th+ minute or else the distance will be further away shakehead.gif

Heh, guess what... in Champion League qualifying I met Babel as substitute for Ajax team biggrin.gif ... barely noticed his performance because kena pressure much from Real Madrid tongue.gif ... but still only 1-0 win and Babel hit the shot wide in the final minutes. Also in Champion League qualifying, Real meet Arsenal for the 3rd time this season (1st was league game, 2nd also CL qualifying). Having a tough time with them but Reyes scored the 1st goal on 71st minute. However, Arsenal's Kaka cancelled the goal on 81st minute and Reyes once again scored in the final minutes to make it 2-1 win over Arsenal nod.gif

*negotiation period is just 1 match away*

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Yeaps... but still it's better compared to WE7 series... the player or club for sure will agree for the transfer if the offer above the player's value sweat.gif ... but since WE8 and above, it's not that easy anymore wink.gif . Hehe, it sounds like u wanna mix WE & Football Manager game brows.gif ... It would be hell a lot of fun and confusing then laugh.gif

Just played a few matches yesterday and oh my god ohmy.gif ... First my Robben is out for 4 weeks and then my Chivu is out for 7 weeks doh.gif ... Now both of them added to the injury list together with Henry sweat.gif ... In the league draw against Man. United thus expanding the distance to 5 points from the league leader, Chelsea. Lucky the next match against Bolton scored 2 late goals on 89th and 90th+ minute or else the distance will be further away shakehead.gif

Heh, guess what... in Champion League qualifying I met Babel as substitute for Ajax team biggrin.gif ... barely noticed his performance because kena pressure much from Real Madrid tongue.gif ... but still only 1-0 win and Babel hit the shot wide in the final minutes. Also in Champion League qualifying, Real meet Arsenal for the 3rd time this season (1st was league game, 2nd also CL qualifying). Having a tough time with them but Reyes scored the 1st goal on 71st minute. However, Arsenal's Kaka cancelled the goal on 81st minute and Reyes once again scored in the final minutes to make it 2-1 win over Arsenal nod.gif

*negotiation period is just 1 match away*

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After 8 years of playing the series, I finally scored > 1 FK in a game.notworthy.gif (bear in mind my success rate from direct FK was only about 1/100). After mths of practice I think I finally got the feel right. Socred 3 in a game (5*) against Dinamo Kiev, with a final socre of 8-2 (also my record as highest score in 5* ML).

Took the lead, 1-0 with diving header by Lamps at near post of a J.Cole corner. Conceded 2 gaols quickly after that, both thru defensive lapses and allowing CPU to get onto thru balls.

2nd half got apenalty for a trip on Torres inside the box. After that it was the J.Cole show. whistling.gif Scored 3/5 freekicks. (note I use J.cole, because I feel Lamps power is too much, therefore harder to control the FK). In-between Torres got 2 goals too.

There's a sense of acheivement I'm feeling ,bcos converting freekicks was the only area I felt I hadn't mastered yet in the series. thumbup.gif

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After 8 years of playing the series, I finally scored > 1 FK in a game.notworthy.gif (bear in mind my success rate from direct FK was only about 1/100). After mths of practice I think I finally got the feel right. Socred 3 in a game (5*) against Dinamo Kiev, with a final socre of 8-2 (also my record as highest score in 5* ML).

Took the lead, 1-0 with diving header by Lamps at near post of a J.Cole corner. Conceded 2 gaols quickly after that, both thru defensive lapses and allowing CPU to get onto thru balls.

2nd half got apenalty for a trip on Torres inside the box. After that it was the J.Cole show. whistling.gif Scored 3/5 freekicks. (note I use J.cole, because I feel Lamps power is too much, therefore harder to control the FK). In-between Torres got 2 goals too.

There's a sense of acheivement I'm feeling ,bcos converting freekicks was the only area I felt I hadn't mastered yet in the series. thumbup.gif 

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That's great buddy nod.gif . It been a while since I last scored 8 or 9 goals in a game ever since I left 3* tongue.gif ... The most if not mistaken only 5 or 6 goals in a game (@ 6*). Then for scoring from FK, the most I did only double in a game. Kena tiang got la... 3 times in a game laugh.gif . Didnt make it for triple before like u did notworthy.gif . However, my furthest freekick I scored was 38m or 42m... forgot the exact number sweat.gif

Dude, u got F. Torres in ur team? How's his performance? Coz I had been thinking of dropping one of mine for him tongue.gif

Negotiation period already over. Already sold Gravesen out. Take in Babel and also Hunt. Really dun hav Schwarz sweat.gif ... Heh, Hunt is pretty good as SB and he's my 1st selection now and let Chivu sit on the bench for a while. Further on observing his performance smile.gif . As for Babel, played him as substitute in a few league games and first selection in cup games (since Henry is out also sweat.gif). He perform pretty well, but yet failed to find his first goal although a few excellent shots on goal. Still young and new with the team, perhaps need a bit of training will do tongue.gif
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Yup, that one was definitely my record higest scoring game in 5*. Difference was usually I never convert my FK's properly. 4-0 I win quite often. Kena tiang on FK that one, countless times already. Funny thing is, after that game, the AI 'super mode' kicked in. Past 4 games have been struggling to win, for that matter even paly. Players are not responding at all to control input, or switch over at the worst expected moment.

Got into the CL semi's after drawing Juve. Was having a 1 goal league from 1st leg at delle alpi. 2nd leg at home, scored before half time. 3-1 aggr. Started to relax. 2nd half Juve came back and put 2 goals. CUrsing my self. Last minute of the game, Gudjonssen scored an equaliser with diving header off a corner. Wheeew !!.

Direct free kicks, never scored above 29m yet. Lay off, have shot a few in from 30m.

As for Torres, stats wise he's supposed to be great in the game. Got him when I was still in Div 2. Played OK then with 7 goals mainly in cups and some assists. 2nd season about 12 goals. 3rd and 4th season bout the same but progrssing steadily. Problem is, I rotate my squad a lot, so a forward can at most score bout 11-12 goals per season.

Not the quickest CF, but has good technique. Also good in the air. Get him on loan and try if you want. Righ now I'm trying to maximise use of Crespo before he retires. I've trained him up to having reds in most offensive stats. (Slower but deadly finishing).

Joe cole also improving well for me.

Babel and Schwarz need training, but overall babel is quicker and more useful immediately. Scwarz is more of a target man, has deadly left foot (need training) and potential FK master.

Cheers.

PS: Shortlisted SB Mathieu of FC Toulouse for next transfer period. Trying to offload other underused squad palyers as well, but so far no takers. I've got ppl like M.Grant CB, Vornander CB, Cudicini GK, taking up space but hardly play any games.

Try re-gens Sinisa Mihalajovic & Costucurta. Have great potential, but need a few seasons to develop first.





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I would like to think im the best of my area.. *Taman Melawati-Gombak as i have many friends who has grown up playing this game together for the last 10 years and they find it hard to beat me. Im not UNBEATABLE but i would say im pretty good.

Just want to know if anyone organising a friendly competition this weekend be sure to pm me!!

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I'm still waiting for the next iteration of WE series that'll offer online play (outside of Japan). Once we have that, all of us on this thread can start playing one another online. That would be awesome!!
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mind to ask where can i get a original pc version for we9???and the price...

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*sigh* been busy with work and studies... no time to lay my hands on WE sweat.gif
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hmm, has anyone tried the Alan Shearer style (style 2) freekicks? because in my opinion, thats the best way to get goals.. tap, and shoot like no tomorrow, best with players with high power, like Adriano, Scholes, Stevie G, etc. etc.
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hehe..focus on ur studies..
after that only play thumbup.gif
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Sheep,

Up to last month, that was my regular way of scoring from FK's too. But I find it difficult to keep it low and hard ala Shearer.

Anyway, no longer need to use this becoz I feel i've cracked the secret of taking FK's now.

I'm scoring FK's from all over the place now thumbup.gif (directly, no more lay offs and such). Top corner, bottom corner, around the wall, over the wall.

Success rate from 1/500 FK's now is 1/3. whistling.gif

I guess I've finally surpassed my final hurdle, after 7 years of playing the series I can now finally say, i've done it all. Seriously, it's added a new dimension to my play, now at 5/6 stars have fewer drawn matches, since i'll put away almost any FK's between 20-27m.

I've scored about 15 FK's just over the weekend's play time. Compared to nove for the whole of 2005, thats the reason i'm so biggrin.gif .

Next challenge is to master the 2 man FK's with the kicker dummy and 2nd player taking the kick. (e.g L2 then L1+SQ)

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hehe..focus on ur studies..
after that only play thumbup.gif
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He.he.he Wife's been away to her hometown for a couple of weeks. Can finally put in quality gaming time.

I've given up on PES5 for now, no more challenge,Plying 5* ML as Chelsea, got about 200k++ cash, can buy anyone I want. (he.he feels like Roman Abromovich eh.?) All that's left is to see my yougsters bloom.

Seriously have not the patience to see it thru. Already won the League, Cup, , WEFA and all. MIssing the gameplay of WE9. Plan to finish off my kit editing for WE9/PES5 and restart a new ML in WE9.

I prefer the slower paced gameplay in WE9. 5* on PES5 is frustating at times becoz of the frustating response when compared to WE9.

Cheers all.
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Ooi jiwa... share share lar ur secret or at least give us some hints brows.gif
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Each player that you use is different. You have to practice extensively with each to get the required timing right. The hints are for general guideline.

(Its easier on PES5 than WE9)

IMO its actually harder to use the 'star' FK takers, beacuse you must compensate more.

Generally most succesful FK's are those that just barely clear the wall, or in between the heads of palyers in the wall. If it's too high and you had to use dip to drop it down again, the shot lacks power and the keeper will catch it.

But if its too hard, the ball wont curl as much and the trajectory will be too flat. Again an easy save.

So all in all, I feel FK taking is an art not a skill, where you need to get the feel for it. Probably why it's taken mee so long before getting any sucess with it.


Some Hints:

Short range. 19-23m

Go over the wall. Curl not really necesarry.
Hold down, + power 47-50%. After kick press X to dip the ball.
** Sucess rate form tis distance is high

Medium range 24-29m

Go over or around the wall. Curl is up to you.
Dir neutral, +power exactly 50% to 55%. Press X to dip after kick.
** Success rate from this distance is medium-high for 24-27 and medium for 28M+

Long range 29+m

Go over the wall.
Dir up, power 55-60%. Curl is up to you. Dip/Float is up to you.
Success rate is less for the further away you are, even with R.Carlos. Simpel fact is keeper can see it coming.

Hope this help. Really hard to explain.(easier to show in person).

Cheers.


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"After kick press X to dip the ball"

This is what i don't understand during free kick...........i press X after the player kicks the ball OR i press X after the power bar finished charged. (this situation is when the player about to kick the ball)

Thanks for the tips............i think after this DIPPING thing i might understand WE free kick better thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(highwind @ Jan 27 2006, 03:04 PM)
"After kick press X to dip the ball"

This is what i don't understand during free kick...........i press X after the player kicks the ball OR i press X after the power bar finished charged. (this situation is when the player about to kick the ball)

Thanks for the tips............i think after this DIPPING thing i might understand WE free kick better  thumbup.gif
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What about corners...........any tips?
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oh yeah jiwa....you use CIRCLE or SQUARE for free kicks??Thanks for the hints, will try it
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oh yeah jiwa....you use CIRCLE or SQUARE for free kicks??Thanks for the hints, will try it
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QUOTE(highwind @ Jan 27 2006, 03:04 PM)
"After kick press X to dip the ball"

This is what i don't understand during free kick...........i press X after the player kicks the ball OR i press X after the power bar finished charged. (this situation is when the player about to kick the ball)

Thanks for the tips............i think after this DIPPING thing i might understand WE free kick better  thumbup.gif
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Ha.ha. Now we go into advanced territory eh..!! There is a difference. The sooner you press x, the faster it dips. However dipping fast is not always the desired outcome. Sometimes an otherwise excellent freekick will be spoilt by dipping too soon. I usually delay a bit until the ball is near the wall, then press X. But either technique works.

The amount of dip varies from player to player. So for some, you have to hold a long timee, and for others just 1/4 sec or so.

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 4 2006, 12:21 AM)
CIRCLE = PASS
SQUARE = SHOOT

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If shoooting at goal always use SQUARE. However nowdays I tend to use SQUARE to PASS as well. Just aim weak freekick away or across goal, I find its easier to attack these balls, whereas if you use CIRCLE, the CPU usually anticipates and intercepts.

Just cameback from CNY holidays last week. Got my ass whupped by my cousins. Funny thing is, they don't even own the game, just know how to play football. And we'e been playing together for years.

Thought I could buka some new skills, but they know my game too well, and just countered my strategies very well. Lost becuase of frustation and losing concentration. Goes to show how different human is from CPU.

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erm...did anyone scored a direct corner here b4?...that day i played WE and try to swing one corner in from beckham..who knows it directly goes in from there.. shocking.gif fluke goal i think tongue.gif trying to do that ever since tat incident but cant already huh.gif
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QUOTE(jiwa @ Feb 6 2006, 04:08 PM)
If shoooting at goal always use SQUARE. However nowdays I tend to use SQUARE to PASS as well. Just aim weak freekick away or across goal, I find its easier to attack these balls, whereas if you use CIRCLE, the CPU usually anticipates and intercepts.

Just cameback from CNY holidays last week. Got my ass whupped by my cousins. Funny thing is, they don't even own the game, just know how to play football. And we'e been playing together for years.

Thought I could buka some new skills, but they know my game too well, and just countered my strategies very well. Lost becuase of frustation and losing concentration. Goes to show how different human is from CPU.

Cheers all.
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hahaha Jiwa can lose to his cousins.........then his cousins mai...super GENG???

Anyway thanks to your tips, i kinda slightly understand FK better but I can't score much actually, but at least i can score some freekicks during practise ....which is an improvement to me since i've NEVER scored from FK before. Thanks....if don't mind,share more tips la lol....
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QUOTE(jiwa @ Feb 6 2006, 03:40 PM)
Ha.ha. Now we go into advanced territory eh..!! There is a difference. The sooner you press x, the faster it dips. However dipping fast is not always the desired outcome. Sometimes an otherwise excellent freekick will be spoilt by dipping too soon. I usually delay a bit until the ball is near the wall, then press X. But either technique works.

The amount of dip varies from player to player. So for some, you have to hold a long timee, and for others just 1/4 sec or so.

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OMG~!!! I didnt went into so detailed controls before shakehead.gif ... Gotta admit Pro Player Jiwa really --> notworthy.gif

Frankly, I didnt know pressing 'x' after execution will hav such 'effect' sweat.gif ... It's the same to corner kicks or any other kicks as well... wouldn't ya mind to tell how did ya figured it out? sweat.gif

QUOTE(MightyReds @ Feb 7 2006, 12:15 AM)
erm...did anyone scored a direct corner here b4?...that day i played WE and try to swing one corner in from beckham..who knows it directly goes in from there.. shocking.gif fluke goal i think  tongue.gif trying to do that ever since tat incident but cant already  huh.gif
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QUOTE(jonjon87 @ Feb 7 2006, 12:24 AM)
hahaha Jiwa can lose to his cousins.........then his cousins mai...super GENG???

Anyway thanks to your tips, i kinda slightly understand FK better but I can't score much actually, but at least i can score some freekicks during practise ....which is an improvement to me since i've NEVER scored from FK before. Thanks....if don't mind,share more tips la lol....
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Again like Jiwa said, human is no-no compareable to CPU... CPU is dead while human is alive nod.gif ... Even a newbie player who know only 50% of the controls is much tougher than 6* CPU sweat.gif
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Again like Jiwa said, human is no-no compareable to CPU... CPU is dead while human is alive nod.gif ... Even a newbie player who know only 50% of the controls is much tougher than 6* CPU sweat.gif
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Agreed.....hehee...

huhu that day played with a friend who came to my house for CNY, played 2 games win 2 games......but all 'chicken' wan la....quite syok la, wanna play with human players more...

Do u play with human players alot?
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QUOTE(jonjon87 @ Feb 7 2006, 11:41 PM)
Agreed.....hehee...

huhu that day played with a friend who came to my house for CNY, played 2 games win 2 games......but all 'chicken' wan la....quite syok la, wanna play with human players more...

Do u play with human players alot?
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For PS2 WE9 kakis out there, there's a new patch released by the respected Wendetta & WElab team (now merged as Wendetta Lab) 2 days ago.

It's the most current and, in my humble opinion, best patch there is out there at the moment. Played with it last night for hours. Couldn't put my controller down despite an eary meeting this morning. Excellentl!!

http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=29043


p/s : even has Wigan in the EPL for all you Wigan fans out there. biggrin.gif
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Thankx to terranova's info I already dump my previous own-mixed-patched version and now playing this WEndettaLAB2.0 patch liao tongue.gif ... it's much better than the previous patches that I had tried before drool.gif

Most probably gonna start a new ML's story soon but this time with Liverpool instead of Real Madrid as I usually played nod.gif
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Okiez... restarted my game in WE but this time with WEndettaLAB2.0 patch and also WEndettaLAB2.0 Option File thumbup.gif (special thankx to terranova for notifying notworthy.gif)

Unlocked all the Under 21's teams and also 6* difficulty. Still thinking whether to unlock the legendary players as well... but it just make Master League (ML) not that fun with those players along tongue.gif (IMHO la... laugh.gif)

This time around as I mentioned earlier, I started ML with Default Match Mode and selected Liverpool playing in League A with all English Premier League's teams.

Liverpool's default formation with Cisse playing as CF down on the left, Crouch as CF in the centre and two SMFs Kewell and Luis Garcia at both sides. This formation didnt match my playing style which I prefered the most tongue.gif . Reconstructed the formation as it then similiar to the previous one I used with Real's in my previous ML Story.

Started the ML at 5* difficulty and it seem a having a little bit of setback at the beginning with a draw and a lost due to formation testing as I'm switching and testing the players with different formation. Thing started to get better when a 1-0 won at the 3rd game of the Division2 (D2) league.

First time experiencing with Liverpool's players, the forwards really kinda bad sweat.gif ... with the option of Crouch, Cisse, Fowler and Morientes... my best picks are Cisse and Morientes. I just couldn't get myself 'clicked' with Fowler and also Crouch is nothing better other than tall. He's slow and yet easily been pushed away by the defenders when he get the ball under his foot. Even he's did some good penetration on the defense, but then again he easily get knocked away and the chance gone (Sorry to u... Crouch sad.gif).

The 2 CFs re-located them back to the middle in front of the opponent's goal and moved Kewell up ahead from his default position playing as ST. The rest didnt change much except moving Gerrard a bit topper and Xabi Alonso a bit lower. The defenders taking rotation and Reina a pretty good GK nod.gif

Yet still fatigue accumulated pretty fast shocking.gif ... and forwards couldn't get their names on the score sheet shakehead.gif . Having some tough time but when 1st negotation period arrive, traded 4 players away:

Hamann (CMF) ---> Arsenal for Reyes (ST) drool.gif
Fowler (CF) ---> Arsenal for Van Persie (ST) thumbup.gif
Warnock (SB) ---> Manchester United for Park Ji Sung (CMF) brows.gif *cheap but good player*
Carson (GK) ---> ????? for Marshall (GK) tongue.gif

*dang! I'm just selecting good players which I experienced before back in previous ML biggrin.gif*

Crouch been dropped from the first lineup for Van Persie partnering with Cisse. Kewell and Xabi Alonso taking rotation with Reyes and Park Ji Sung. And boo~hoo! The team overall performance increased immediately after the negotiation period bombing Thul with 6-0 won and then followed by 4-0 and 3-0 won over the other teams in D2 league thumbup.gif . Both Van Persie and S. Gerrard immediately get their ranks to the top on WEFA Best Players with rating over 7.0 biggrin.gif. During the next period of negotiation will be looking for some CBs and SBs depending on my 'cash' smile.gif

That's all for this time... and I just wonder if got ppl interested to read and share theirs laugh.gif

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Thanks to jiwa's tips and hints on freekicks...........I get to score a few freekicks hahahahaha.....it was satisfying...
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Haha... thankx to Mr. Jiwa, I also mastered the 'art of taking freekicks' notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

I didnt know there's a big effect taking freekicks in the way u mentioned and I kept on stick to the style which I used since WE7 tongue.gif ... What a day when Gerrard scored 2 freekicks from range <25m within 4 minutes for a 2-0 win thumbup.gif

Another tips I must add that is 'YOU must get the FEEL of how much power to POUR IN and when to hit the 'X' factor' tongue.gif laugh.gif
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wah so long no ppl post here liao........

have been scoring freekicks now and then thanks again to MRjiwa...shortest FK will be 18 metres while furthest is 33m with gerrard.

Did u guys read the thread about winning elven 10 rumours??????any aspects of the game u guys hope that konami will improve on???
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*sigh*

Well, I'm still playing WE9 all the while but only less than usual already as pile of office's load, college's assignments and exams on all my way shakehead.gif ... Been having stress and tiredness... so extra time I ZZZzzz sweat.gif

Just struggled over my 2nd season with Liverpool in the Division1 and finished 6th in the league (the final spot for Champions League Qualifying doh.gif) and grabbed the Division1 Cup from Chelsea with a narrow 1-0 win as substitute Michael Owen (yeah, he's back at Liverpool in MY STORY biggrin.gif) scored on the 10th minute in the first Extra Time. Phews~!

Again, Gerrard voted as the OVERALL BEST PLAYER AWARD for both Division1 League and also Division1 Cup. Went thru the negotiation period.. secured the service of Hunt [SB] and traded Finnan for Ashley Cole [SB].

Hm... I had been shuffling my formation for a few times to get the one that most players will get clicked with. It seem like I had 'widen' the range too big till the passes seem difficult to get it worked flawlessly. Always get intercepted or being too slow doh.gif . My forwards; Van Persie, Owen, Cisse, Morientes and Babel yet finding it's difficult to get their name on the scoresheet. Most of the goals came from the midfields rather the tops. Their performance really up and down which then it makes me difficult to select who and who for the starting lineup and also who and who to preserve for big matchie.

My midfields been strong with keyplayer and captain Steven Gerrard, Park Ji Sung, Xabi Alonso, Sissoko and C. Ronaldo. Luis Garcia and Kewell can be playing in the midfield too as they usually slot in for right midfielder or 'Second Top' smile.gif . Defense been really terrible at first with slow paced Hyppia and not-so-in-form Carra. Both Finnan and D. Traore performing well, but didnt meet my expectation sad.gif . Thus, my defense lineup been changed to Hunt, Ashley Cole for SBs and Kompany, Sergio Ramos for CBs. Rotation along with Carra, Agger, Kronkramp and Risse. My 1st choice GK now is Marshall and Reina as 2nd tongue.gif .

Played first 3 matches in the Division1 League and against 2 giants; Chelsea and Manchester United. Babel scored the 2 destructive goals each in the 1st and 2nd half against Chelsea that made it 2-0 win leaving them dropped till 8th rank of the league standings. Steven Gerrard first scored in the match against the Devils but Nistelrooy cancelled it up with a brilliant header in 2nd half stoppage time and made it 1-1 draw.

That's all for this time wink.gif

*thankx for reading tongue.gif*
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Hey ppls, i own a copy of we9 on pc. was wondering the patches released on eveweb are compatible with the pc version, or is it strictly for ps2 only? thank you.
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Hey ppls, i own a copy of we9 on pc. was wondering the patches released on eveweb are compatible with the pc version, or is it strictly for ps2 only? thank you.
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There are patched for the PC version on evoweb as well. You just need to go to the patch thread and look out for those that says "pc version". Usually it's identified on the title to the thread e.g. "WE9 PC" patch. But be forewarn, there's not that many out there for the PC version.

Good luck.
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i wonder did u guys visit another thread about the PES5 videos......what u guys think?
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QUOTE(terranova @ Mar 13 2006, 01:06 PM)
There are patched for the PC version on evoweb as well. You just need to go to the patch thread and look out for those that says "pc version". Usually it's identified on the title to the thread e.g. "WE9 PC" patch. But be forewarn, there's not that many out there for the PC version.

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Hey thank you very much buddy, lucky I didn't waste my time downloading the ps2 version, will try to search now.. hehehe smile.gif
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y WE9 = PE5 ?

game setting, player edit all same... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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bcoz it is a same game icon_rolleyes.gif PES5 is euro version while WE9 is japan version but personally i prefer WE than PES rclxm9.gif
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does anyone know any mods website 4 WE9?

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Evo-Web

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thanks. rclxms.gif
anyway does anyone knows how 2 extract the replay file that is save in the game in2 the hard disk?
aiyo y the evo-web cannot view the threads one? icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Mar 20 2006, 10:02 PM)
thanks. rclxms.gif
anyway does anyone knows how 2 extract the replay file that is save in the game in2 the hard disk?
aiyo y the evo-web cannot view the threads one? icon_question.gif
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Register and Login, then u can view it tongue.gif
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was wondering how to play multiplayer ar?

I try to play on LAN but they say cannot connect to server.
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hey, any 1 know got any patches to edit those licence teams jersey such as gunners and chelsea?

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now got we 10 already..hehe
any tournaments? i want to join lah.

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Is there a pc patch for WE9 similiar to the wendetta patch for ps2 ? Btw wut is the strategy/attack/defend button for is it to change formation or allow ur players to automatically defend/fight for the ball just like fifa.

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WE10 seem to be released and Fernando translation patch already available shocking.gif shocking.gif ... perhaps my few final seasons with WE9's ML and I'm gonna move tongue.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Apr 23 2006, 09:23 PM)
WE10 seem to be released and Fernando translation patch already available shocking.gif shocking.gif ... perhaps my few final seasons with WE9's ML and I'm gonna move tongue.gif
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haha long time didn't come in here liao.....yeap yeap heard that we10 is out....FInally, time to move on for me as well.....goodbye we9, i love you!!!!!

haha waiting for tips and secrets from vearn and jiwa in the future whistling.gif

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wow... so quiet dis thread dis days tongue.gif

anyway, im playing ML wif 6 stars and i have a darn frustrating dilemma as in why the heck is my team stamina so low aft every match?? mad.gif

Im now selecting C for zone press and counter attacking to compensate for my lost in stamina. sad.gif Its really disheartening to see GK's stamina turning red(makes no sense). My Forwards(RVN, Saha) and midfielders(Ronaldo, Giggs) are usually dead tired aft a match. Thus i usually need to rest before an important match. The funny things is, no one i know has this problem. Anyone care to clarify?


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Guys,

I've been playing WE9 since long time (PC version) but im still wondering how to do grounder free kicks...can any1 teach me biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(alienLYN @ May 18 2006, 11:10 PM)
wow... so quiet dis thread dis days  tongue.gif

anyway, im playing ML wif 6 stars and i have a darn frustrating dilemma as in why the heck is my team stamina so low aft every match??  mad.gif

Im now selecting C for zone press and counter attacking to compensate for my lost in stamina.  sad.gif  Its really disheartening to see GK's stamina turning red(makes no sense). My Forwards(RVN, Saha) and midfielders(Ronaldo, Giggs) are usually dead tired aft a match. Thus i usually need to rest before an important match. The funny things is, no one i know has this problem. Anyone care to clarify?
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I'm still playing WE9 and haven't make my move to WE10 yet tongue.gif ... my 4th season with Liverpool and going to secure the TREBLE soon biggrin.gif ... hopefully laugh.gif

It's normal and I'm facing the same thing too. But glady I had a big team enough for me to rotate the players. Players need some rest too, just like how they're in reality nod.gif . The amount of concentration a player put in the match is really at some level that you couldn't even imaginate it. If u r playing 2 matches in a week (league and cup), definitely the green bar will fall and fatigue bar will increase quicker.

My advise is, try to monitor ur players and their stats. Those with higher stamina tend to heal quickly and last longer (their fatigue bar hardly increase) after match. Seem like u r using Man U and u can see Rooney's stamina for example wink.gif . Others like Giggs definitely get some fatigue after match. Try to get more players into ur team and play rotation among ur players. Rest those good ones if u really need them for important matches or against tough team.

Like Steven Gerrard best if playing one match per week, that's why I'll rest him for one of those matches when there're two in a week. Unless... it's inevitable that I need him to be in the lineup. Else I'll try with other player and then only subs him into the team whenever somehow reached 60~70th minute and not at the wining stake yet.

U r also playing as the manager, so think wise and take gamble! tongue.gif

QUOTE(Notoriez @ May 19 2006, 12:24 AM)
Guys,

I've been playing WE9 since long time (PC version) but im still wondering how to do grounder free kicks...can any1 teach me biggrin.gif
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I'm playing PS2 version... for grounder freekick, hold 'DOWN' while pressing the 'LONG PASS' instead of 'SHOOT' icon_rolleyes.gif
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ah... thx vearn for your advise thumbup.gif

2/3 of my way getting a treble too, won my div cup and wefa cup. Now left the league which i trail Chelsea 1 point(all thanks to Arsenal). Had a pretty hectic schedule as i played 3 very VERY important matches in consecutive order(Div cup final(Chelsea), league vs Arsenal, Wefa cup final(Chelsea again!!). icon_rolleyes.gif

And your advise Vearn, im sure it'll work but my way of playing WE is to follow as closely to the current real world line-up as possible. And as you know United doesn't have many decent back-ups and i had to make do with my young ones incase my players are tired smile.gif

And one more thing, any idea whats the difference on the "mark player" setting when we change from Zonal marking to Covering?


Cheers all...
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If you set it to covering, that player will cover for nearby players who are out of position.

Let's say your CB's marking is set to covering, and your LB is way upfront and the opposition counters, releasing a through pass on the left wing. Your CB will go to the LB position and cover the 'hole'.
(In WE10 there's a new 'covering' star. Player with this stat tends to cover)

If you play with a sweeper, as in changing the last defender's position to 'SWP', you'll notice that his marking will be set to 'covering' and you can't change it. This is actually the job of a sweeper even in real life football. But nowadays you don't see any teams using this system.

Basically 'covering' means covering the loose balls. It'd be effective if you use it on fast players.

Have you tried playing with 3 CBs with one acting as a sweeper? It can be pretty effective.

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Last time I played 3-5-2 (3-2-2-1-2) formation and only positioned 3 CBs. It works well for me till WE8, but my flanks penetrated easily in WE9 shakehead.gif . Frustrated with it, and I switched back to 4-4-2 formation.

Sweeper is good to play, I always use it till WE8. But somehow it's different in WE9, so all set to 'zone defense' and I'll try to control the player to cover up the hole manually. Beware as each player will move on their own too doh.gif ... once u played long enough with WE, u definitely can predict what will happen already... it's just bit like some common sense in real football anyway wink.gif

Well, set to SWEEPER or COVERING will tend to fail to trap ur opponents with off-side traps more tongue.gif
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wow, I just experienced the most weirdest thing that happened on my WE9...

Joe Cole was just walking walking, then he looks tired, he fell down, woke up, and fell down again.. AND HE'S INJURED! o_o
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QUOTE(Sheep319 @ Jun 18 2006, 09:14 PM)
wow, I just experienced the most weirdest thing that happened on my WE9...

Joe Cole was just walking walking, then he looks tired, he fell down, woke up, and fell down again.. AND HE'S INJURED! o_o
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There's lots more actually... perhaps he already injured earlier when someone tackled him down... it's just like real life football. When someone injured, they kept trying to play but when they no longer can withstand the pain, they'll sit down and ask for substitute.

Have u experienced 'drop ball' by referee? wink.gif
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Drop ball, yeah. Normally happens when a player is down injured for a while and the ball is still in play, then the referee will blow the whistle and stop the game abruptly.

Another neat touch by Konami is a retiring player's last match in the Master League. If your player is about to retire, play him in the last match of the season and you'll see a cutscene of him waving to the fans. So sad. laugh.gif
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post Jun 20 2006, 10:35 AM

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Oh... I didnt know bout the retiring thingy, coz usually I trade or sold old players away tongue.gif ... nvm... let me sign one immediately, too much of cash like Abramovich tongue.gif

Thankx for ya info icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 20 2006, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Jun 20 2006, 08:43 AM)
There's lots more actually... perhaps he already injured earlier when someone tackled him down... it's just like real life football. When someone injured, they kept trying to play but when they no longer can withstand the pain, they'll sit down and ask for substitute.

Have u experienced 'drop ball' by referee? wink.gif
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experienced it tons of times already..

but i've never actually see that kind of situation.. coz I seriously don't remember Joe Cole being tackled hard.. he was walking off, fell down, woke up, and fell down again, and next thing I know, he's injured.. o_o
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post Jun 20 2006, 10:44 PM

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It happened in a league game right?
From what I read that happens when a player is too tired (not only stamina but fatigue level). But I think injury is a factor as well.

Oh and supposedly in the Master League a player can 'die'.
Play him straight without any rest whatsoever until his fatigue level is at the highest and soon something like what you described will happen, plus the player will disappear from your roster!

I couldn't be arsed to try this though, it's just what I read in either pesfan or pesinsight. But I've seen the footage of a player collapsing on Google Video, it was pretty funny.
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just want to ask, can i use the superpatch for WE9, coz in my knowledge the superpatch was created for PES5 only.
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Commentator Patch????, Winning Eleven 9 FIFA MOD?

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woo, finally I get to modify those bloody kits in WE9 and balls..

HOORAY FOR NEW KITS! they look nice on the players biggrin.gif
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post Aug 11 2006, 04:37 PM

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is we9 and pes5 now have a champions league competition like fifa?

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post Aug 11 2006, 08:37 PM

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where got ....
where got patch oooo ?

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post Aug 23 2006, 10:18 PM

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just wanna ask how to get those patch (updates the latest transfer, full actual jersey for all teams, and even their boots also) for Xbox...WE9..appreciate it
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i notice there is no commentary name for players like ballack, hamann, rvn...i think due to licensing...any patch for it?
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QUOTE(im a b**** @ Aug 11 2006, 04:37 PM)
is we9 and pes5 now have a champions league competition like fifa?
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Master League mode smile.gif
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post Aug 29 2006, 11:32 PM

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ok.. im new to WE.. so anyone know link for me to know the control button for this games..?
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post Sep 6 2006, 08:35 PM

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any pros care to help me? i'm playing WE9 using my keyboard... why i always press shoot and the player still wont shoot? in the end my ball kena tackle... result always i shoot, i need to spam mykeyboard... happens often la.. but not always.. help me plzzzzzzzz
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QUOTE(hata_yie @ Aug 29 2006, 11:32 PM)
ok.. im new to WE.. so anyone know link for me to know the control button for this games..?
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u cn refer to button configuration in the game option...
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are there any patches or updates available for my pc version of WE9?ive redesigned MU jersey but dun rilli look nice..any jobs from the pros which i can install into the game?if yes where to get it and how to do it?lazy laa want to edit all the teams name and stadium..
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Sep 6 2006, 08:35 PM)
any pros care to help me? i'm playing WE9 using my keyboard... why i always press shoot and the player still wont shoot? in the end my ball kena tackle... result always i shoot, i need to spam mykeyboard... happens often la.. but not always.. help me plzzzzzzzz
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can explain deeply?

maybe its your computer that's lagging eh? dunno la.
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hi guys. how can i play WE9 PC to PC through LAN game? coz i can't find any LAN selection in the menu, i only see network.

thanks !
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post Dec 26 2006, 09:04 PM

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hopefully winning eleven [version 11] will be out for PS2 also..
if not, have to buy ps3 :sob:
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newbie here, wat requirement for tis game? can sapphire 9550/FX5200/5500/5700 support it? lag ?
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post Jan 2 2007, 06:55 AM

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im using 9550 playing this game and no lag....
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im using G4Ti4200 also no lag

 

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