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National Team aff cup 2010 final : Indonesia Vs Malaysia

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post Dec 21 2010, 05:13 PM

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naturalised atau pun x... mengaku la indon lagi power.... jangan kaitkan isu tu... manager kiter pun x bising...

flaws of the law..

naturalisasi menyebabkan bola lagi sedap mata memandang.. walaupun kadang2.. anak jati negara yang terasa bahang..

kita cakap pasal bola.. bukan politikus..
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post Dec 21 2010, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(seizer @ Dec 21 2010, 05:13 PM)
naturalised atau pun x... mengaku la indon lagi power.... jangan kaitkan isu tu... manager kiter pun x bising...

flaws of the law..

naturalisasi menyebabkan bola lagi sedap mata memandang.. walaupun kadang2.. anak jati negara yang terasa bahang..

kita cakap pasal bola.. bukan politikus..
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ko ni ambik tau ke pasal bolasepak kita?
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post Dec 21 2010, 05:30 PM

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post Dec 21 2010, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(AKace @ Dec 21 2010, 05:25 PM)
ko ni ambik tau ke pasal bolasepak kita?
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post Dec 21 2010, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(seizer @ Dec 21 2010, 05:31 PM)
tak drool.gif
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whatever
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post Dec 21 2010, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(upilkenyal @ Dec 21 2010, 04:35 PM)
wiki :naturalization  is the acquisition of citizenship and nationality by somebody who was not a citizen or national of that country when he or she was born.
In general, basic requirements for naturalization are that the applicant hold a legal status as a full-time resident for a minimum period of time and that the applicant promise to obey and uphold that country's laws, to which an oath or pledge of allegiance is sometimes added. Some countries also require that a naturalized national must renounce any other citizenship that they currently hold, forbidding dual citizenship, but whether this renunciation actually causes loss of the person's original citizenship will again depend on the laws of the countries involved.

yes. christian gonzales is a naturalization player. no doubt about it. he born in uruguay and married with Indonesian girl then live for 7 year in indonesia. why he just do naturalization now? because he must live more than 5 year according to indonesian law. one of another requirement to be indonesian is that the person must have a family member or blood line. just like irvan. and also gonzales.
its not true that indonesia pushing team skill by just adding new naturalization player suddenly for aff. gonzales have been apply for this membership since 10 years a go and he following all the requirement.

indonesian team has been runner up since 1999, and in 10 year never have any naturalization player. so its kinda new and attract people attention.
IMHO you must see that after loosing 1-7 to uruguay  all indonesian half-blood player in seri a italia  dutch liga australia liga etc rushing back to indonesia. so its a advantage and i hope we be mature to see it. i mean we respect malaysian team dont want to use naturalization but i hope the same respect come from them to our choice using naturalization.

i mean its like a eating burger. some people like to use chili some like to use tomato ketchup. some just like to eat it without any.
of course the people eat that burger have their own reason why use or why not right? instead blaming, cursing, that other burger taste great, why not enjoying your own choice and smile.gif
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right on, man

QUOTE(lezciel @ Dec 21 2010, 04:52 PM)
indonesia 4 times went to final. they always using their nation player..

only this time they include 2 import players.

even without gonzales/irfan they're still have good team..

like boaz and yongky

boaz not played this time because of his undiciplined manner with riedl. if not, perhaps he will play as right winger or striker
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irfan is never be called "imported player"

he's indonesian since he was born sweat.gif
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post Dec 21 2010, 05:33 PM

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the race for the ticket is now finally onnn.....!!!!!... rase nak halfday je.. nak beratur beli tiket..
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QUOTE(AKace @ Dec 21 2010, 05:33 PM)
whatever
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ouch.. blush.gif x mesranye

ader tiket jual online x?
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post Dec 21 2010, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(seizer @ Dec 21 2010, 05:36 PM)
ouch.. blush.gif x mesranye

ader tiket jual online x?
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tak payahla online2 ni.. kompom server crash...
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post Dec 21 2010, 07:48 PM

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[WTS] T-Shirt Penyokong Harimau Malaya Edisi AFF Suzuki Cup 2010

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post Dec 21 2010, 07:52 PM

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post Dec 21 2010, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(ephunk @ Dec 21 2010, 07:52 PM)
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what the hell is flyingspaghettimonster?

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post Dec 21 2010, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(AKace @ Dec 21 2010, 08:24 PM)
what the hell is flyingspaghettimonster?
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you don't know your own link?
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post Dec 21 2010, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(lezciel @ Dec 21 2010, 04:52 PM)
indonesia 4 times went to final. they always using their nation player..

only this time they include 2 import players.

even without gonzales/irfan they're still have good team..

like boaz and yongky

boaz not played this time because of his undiciplined manner with riedl. if not, perhaps he will play as right winger or striker
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LOL

Irfan is Indonesian since he was born... whistling.gif
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post Dec 21 2010, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(AKace @ Dec 21 2010, 07:48 PM)
replace flyingspaghettimonster with "carigold"
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QUOTE(AKace @ Dec 21 2010, 08:24 PM)
what the hell is flyingspaghettimonster?
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the word is forbidden here
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post Dec 22 2010, 04:09 AM

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fixed! thx kuale for the info. inb4 sked virus

[WTS] T-Shirt Penyokong Harimau Malaya Edisi AFF Suzuki Cup 2010

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post Dec 22 2010, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(BoltonMan @ Dec 21 2010, 01:35 PM)
+1.

ozil, khedira and boateng all has german parents.

i think people tak faham what means by 'naturalisasi'.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization

When you have German parents, it doesnt mean you will hold German citizenship. Use a lil bit logic please laugh.gif

"i think people tak faham what means by 'naturalisasi'"

people = you ??

lol no offense, just morning trolling for you from me tongue.gif

May the best team win, and hope there will be lot of beautiful goals !!!


flamers, hatters, f*ckers GTFO !!!!


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post Dec 22 2010, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(moshpit21 @ Dec 22 2010, 07:33 AM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization

When you have German parents, it doesnt mean you will hold German citizenship. Use a lil bit logic please  laugh.gif

"i think people tak faham what means by 'naturalisasi'"

people = you ??

lol no offense, just morning trolling for you from me tongue.gif

May the best team win, and hope there will be lot of beautiful goals !!!
flamers, hatters, f*ckers GTFO !!!!


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Irfan Bachdim and Christian Gonzales is not naturalized smile.gif
Irfan Bachdim got his Indonesian passport from his career start while Gonzales got his own initiative to be Indonesian and based on the Indonesian law of Citizenship, he has to stay on the country for five years from 2003 to be Indonesian.. blink.gif
9 of the Philipines, Vietnamese or Singaporean is naturalized for the purpose of football because they got 2 citizenship, cmiiw
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