i also support this occasional one-off thread.... The Indonesians propably wont feel as much free with their opinion in the Malaysia Football Talks.. a neutral venue like this probably much better

i also would welcome well-mannered Indonesian poster like pengganyang and several others to this forum...though the thread avatar is outdated. There are 2010 version out there..

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 20 2010, 09:11 AM

they have the best midfield and the most clinical attack... but they certainly not the meanest defense.... we are

we had scored against them in the first match and Markus Harrison need a lot of on the line backup from his defenders.. they very organized in covering up Markus's flaps as if they already trained them viciously in the training ground

looking using 'glass half full' glasses - our bad long balls are actually good defensive clearence...

i dont think we can improve more from what we have seen in both matches vs Vietnam... RG can only work on that after the tournament...

agrees with you.. Razman Roslan was only starting his pre-season training with Selangor when he was called up as an ad-hoc replacement at right back.. he is not match-fit and sharp enough to handle full paced Okto in the first match.... as you might aware, he no longer plays any part in the games after that.. so things will go differently in the left hand channel of yours.. i hope Mahali will be clever to lure Okto to do his safe hushed cross and tight angle shots instead of passing to centre to Bustomi, Firman and Gonzalez. That is what Ridwan does on the right, and thats why, on my eyes, Ridwan is more dangerous than Okto....

maybe, the quality of the cross took our defense, keeper and OKTO HIMSELF by surprise

thats a typical beaten team defending... physical and mentally shredded to pieces... you wont find that mistake happen again in the final... ask Vietnam 2009 Sea games squad on tips how to face us again after they have beaten us the first round

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Added on December 20, 2010, 10:59 amif you only treat this game as only some sort of entertainment than i can only say good luck to you

we will only do what's best for our team to win. Whether you entertained or not by seeing it is not even a factor in the back of our mind.

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 20 2010, 11:01 AM

kalau ko datang nak mintak tolong dengan user name camtu ko pergi je la mintak tolong dgn PSSI.. kami bagi sikit, pandai2 la ko berebut. tikett local untuk local portion only....

i can only wish Indonesian football team are filled with staff who depends on fans opinion in free internet forum to chart out their game plan

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 20 2010, 11:49 AM

+1

despite all the criticism on the long balls and men behind balls tactics, we still have the better chance on both games against vietnam....

as i can see all through this tournaments, this fleet-footed teams like Laos, Thai and Vietnam come out all gun blazing in the first half, but lost their game plan in the second half.. probably because of irritation with our stubborn defense....

if the indons are smart, the will counter this by another boring tactic of passing the ball among the center backs to lure us out... then, it will be a test of patience on who keeps to their game plan better..

of course Indon can only do it in Bukit Jalil..they will be slaugtered by their own fans if they do that in GBK...

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Added on December 20, 2010, 12:49 pmwe handled a lot of Irfan in Thailand, Laos and Vietnam.... but Gonzalez is a tricky customer... you can easily be duped by that lump of meat.. he has a knack of not wasting anything that that comes his way (on the football pitch and probably on the dinner table also )..... you all might notice that Khairul Fahmi has been impeccable with his handling so far in this tournament... but we have to consider that all tries are close to him.... he only have to stretch a bit on long shots...even so, nothing is too much dangerous so far... and our defense has been allowing Thais and Vietnam to take long shot because they sucks about it... but that might change with Gonzales around... he has the ability to place his headers and and shots to the far corner out of keeper reach... and his long shots are no mean feat also...

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 20 2010, 02:32 PM

actually, my heart already blunt on the 'game' side of this match....The last group game was really a mental roller coaster.....nothing can top the emotional meltdown i had when referee in the Indonesia game blown the final whistle...

with the average age of this squad and the lost of key players and all, their performance against Indonesia in the first match arguably reflect the realistic expectation we can have on them..

to qualify to the semi-finals is already a somewhat mini-miracle. .... they somehow grew mid-tournament... to reach the final is beyond any humanly-possible calculation before the tournament... certainly not after the first match...

i have no expectation whatsoever...win,lose or draw....if they play their hearts out without regrets already fine by me...if they not, they'd better be come 2012

on the other hand, i am looking forward to the 'supporting' side of this game. ... i will sing.. jump ...dance...the whole 90 minutes.... the players are having their moment on the field... this is my moment in the stands....thanks you players for giving us this gift... i fantasize, hoping, bleeding for at least 1 match at Bukit Jalil... ... but you gave us 2 ... in the final some more.. when is the last time you are involved in a competitive final match involving Malaysia at home?... this is history in the making.. should we won it for the first time ever, i want to tell my grandchildren that i was there....

heheh.. good luck to us all....

interesting updates from Wan Fakhrul's FB

1.Oleh kerana ramai dah tak sabar nak tau brape harga tiket & bila tiket final Piala AFF Suzuki 2010 akan mula dijual, maka FAM awalkan sehari meeting psl tiket ni. Meeting akan dibuat esok petang dan pas abis je meeting, harga tiket & bila penjualannya akan diumumkan. Tapi kpd rakan2 ku yg budiman, mohon jgn la call or ...sms aku sambil bertanya, "Geng, tiket final ada tak?" Sesungguhnya aku bukan keje dgn FAM ok...

2.SSFC menganjurkan rombongan ke Jakarta untuk menonton aksi final kedua Piala AFF Suzuki 2010 pada 29 Disember ini. Pergi pagi 28/12, Balik petang 30/12. Bayaran RM400-RM550 seorang (termasuk tiket kapal terbang, tiket perlawanan, penginapan 2 malam & pengangkutan pergi balik dari lapangan terbang-hotel-stadium). Jom serang Jakarta!!!


FB Wan Fakhrul

so by today, we will know how much is the ticket price and where and when to buy it.....And if you have around 600 bucks to spare and want to risk your life to be there when we lift the cup, you can join SSFC's tour.

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 21 2010, 08:09 AM

second that.... sometime, when we gave then then the nationality, they will appreciate it more, as compare to local born who will take it for granted..

the race for the ticket is now finally onnn.....!!!!!... rase nak halfday je.. nak beratur beli tiket..

tak payahla online2 ni.. kompom server crash...

nobody plays with 3 at the back nowadays....

4-4-1-1 would be the correct generalization....

-------------------K.Fahmi---------------

Mahali--------Muslim--Fadhli----Asra

Amirulhadi--...Amar---Safiq----Kuna

Norshahrul-------------------------------

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Added on December 22, 2010, 1:59 pm


Injured duo will not play in first leg
2010/12/21


MIDFIELDERS Amirulhadi Zainal and Khyril Muhymeen Zambri have limped out of the AFF Suzuki Cup final first leg match against Indonesia at the National Stadium in Bukit Jalil on Sunday.

Both players are carrying knee injuries sustained during the two-leg semi-final match against Vietnam.
Amirulhadi and Khyril could only do light training and workout at Wisma FAM in Kelana Jaya yesterday but did not join full training with the squad.

National coach K. Rajagobal confirmed that both players will not feature in the first leg on Sunday.
“Khyril complained of pain in his right knee after the first leg match against Vietnam while Amirulhadi suffered a knock in the return leg. Their injuries are not serious,” said Rajagobal in Kelana Jaya yesterday.
“I would will not risk them on Sunday. We have able replacements like Ashaari Shamsuddin, who can play Amirulhadi’s role as right midfielder.”

The national team will play a friendly match against newly promoted Super League side Felda United at Wisma FAM today (8pm).
“It is only a warm-up match for my players especially for the substitutes to get into the groove. I’ve told Felda United not to go in too hard as I don’t want my players to get injured,” he added.


Read more: Injured duo will not play in first leg

http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/Injured...irstleg/Article

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 22 2010, 01:59 PM

its tricky when both Khyril and Amirul are out as both players practically interchangeable with each other the whole tournaments...

Ashaari is the obvious like for like choice.. but as far as his cameo so far is concerned, he is not that match sharp...

another option is to change Amirul with Gurusamy who will partner Amar at covering the centrebacks, which will in turn release Safiq from his defensive shackles. Norshahrul will be pulled out wide to the wings...

the problem with this tactic is Norshahrul will not be able to give too much cover to the full backs as his off the ball area range, speed and covering back is not to his strength.. his is at it best with the ball at his feet and allowed to gamble with tricky cut ins and tricks...

i hope RG starts with option 1, as it will not change too much from the team's philosophy. "Never change a winning team, they say"... we all know what happened at the first group match when RG over-gambled with his line-up to cover the injured players...

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 22 2010, 02:56 PM

hussh....dont reveal too much on that sweet spot now....

not all... just the ones who somehow rate themselves to be "better" and "deserved better" than anybody else....greedy selfish bunch they are... not grateful at all with what they have, always turn for outside for good things while ridiculing their own...

while the Thais, Viets, Lao or Indonesia, despite all the hardship they may have with limited opportunities in life, are always grateful and proud of who they are.

The red shirt/yellow shirt movement in Thailand, for example is a show of how people would united to sacrifice most comfort in life to stand up for what they believe in and being loyal to the the real masters of their country - its people.

While here, if we gather and march to make a point of injustice - our people will complained about traffic jams

I think Malaysia and Singapore is guilty of this. Ironically, both are British colonized before. Look like the the social engineering of devide and conquer still intact even after all this while

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 24 2010, 11:38 AM

while people may rightly look up to Indonesia's perfect record at home, the whole tournament... our record at home so far is not shebby ourelves

while how exactly Indonesia will perform away in this tournament for the first time is still a mystery, Malaysia have been 'battle hardened' playing away. Escaping, barely, but still manage to get out of Gelora Bung Karno and My Dinh alive. We have taken out notes and did our homework.

Singapore, Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, Myanmmar and Malaysia ourselves are all beaten while playing against a full house host. Only Philipines manage to carve out a win in group stage and Malaysia can only draw at My Dinh in the semis..

so Indonesia must not take this factor likely...

Most of the time in tournament that takes a long time, peaking too early also is not too good... Indonesia's flight have been too smooth sailing from the start, but against Thailand and both matches vs the Philipines, they became less and less flambouyant.

Malaysia's drubbing int the first match was a shame, but luckily, thats only a dress rehearsal. This sunday and wednesday matches will be the real deal. We have met our worse and improved on it, but yet to reach our best...

while Indonesia have met their best, they not at all close to know what is their worst.

i think people of Malaysia can feel a little bit optimistic about this final

For info, based on team manager's meeting yesterday :-

Malaysia will wear BLUE + WHITE
Indonesia will wear WHITE + GREEN.