Getting Joven I70P with Zean next week.

My family been using this model for 1 year already, so far everything is perfect and of coz silent is the reason I choose it.

Alpha kinda noisy... T_T

U have to make sure that you are using a DC pump heater or AC pump heater.

As discussed before :

DC pump - quieter
AC pump - noisier

The cheapest DC pump heater (so far I believe and not to forget the SAFEST Instant water heater) in the market is Panasonic, just Rm400++

Joven, alpha, beebest, electrolux...etc can match that price not? Errmmm....quite difficult

National aka Panasonic is the first who came out instant water heater in this market. If u have a chance to see its interior structure, you can understand why panasonic doesnt spend a money to advertise its heater product and yet able to get huge consumer group.

Sometimes it is not about price. Sometimes it is design and other factor. Many people bought alpha smart bcoz of the design though it is quite expensive for an AC pump (noisy). Have to agree that alpha has better design hahaha lost a lot of customer bcoz of alpha.

Didnt survey much on Panasonic but i notice some of the models have a hand shower like microphone, you will have very little volume of water... how to shower? Another thing not sure it has other colour but white will definitely turn yellowish after some time.

Joven on the other hand, has a normal round shower but u could also upgrade it with my Cabana Shower Set to get rain shower. The heater comes with in-mould casing (first in the world), the color will last longer.

This is how silent Joven I70P

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Added on October 29, 2011, 8:43 amThanks, it is true that alpha is noisy as they does not have heater with AC pump yet.

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Oct 29 2011, 08:43 AM

panasonic heater has entry, mid and deluxe range.

if the customers worried about the colour fading, they can choose the deluxe model which is metallic silver series. the panasonic DC jet pump deluxe heater is still below RM500, its shower head is the multiple-way round type,

the microphone-like shower head model targets budget group.

consumers here are mostly influenced by the advertisement and hence the heater selection is normally local established brands.

for a better understanding on the company background, joven <-> alpha <-> beebest = saudara-mara company as many dealers know the story.

well, alpha is going to launch the DC pump heater, the price is almost RM600.

Yes, i am using Alpha 18EP.
I bought it because design (look like turtle shell) and good pump.
Price slightly higher but i have been using Alpha since 10yrs+ ago.
At 1st i find the pump very noisy.
But nowadays will feel lonely without the sound when i shower.
Also, my mind tell me that other people outside cant hear that i am singing while i take shower.

Not many people talk about Centon. Been using this for many years. Last year change another unit after so many years if use.

I saw Alpha new Rainshower series with Inverter DC Pump call Smart 18i.
Any feedback for this model?

I interested to buy this model also. Any comment ?

Any feedback for the Alpha new Rainshower Smart 18i series?

what is the difference between cabana rain shower provided by zheilwane and the rain shower of alpha Smart 18i? which one better?

I bought my cabana from zheilwane, cabana + joven i70P i felt worth for money than alpha smart 18i .

Because after read the post below for the smart 18i

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=39289355

I went to local shop to see the smart 18i, it seems that the shower head is smaller than the cabana one, zheilwane, is this correct?

You also can refer to the post below in which zheilwane made a comparison in between of them

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=44212106

This post has been edited by leeyung: Nov 24 2011, 12:08 PM

From the comparison between them,
Zheilwane said that alpha is using AC pump but Alpha smart 18i seems like using DC pump and inverter type too..

where u see the info about DC + inverter? mind to share it over here ?

maybe I am wrong...

Alpha smart 18i is DC inverter pump model.

Alpha smart 18EP is AC pump model.

This post has been edited by iamsobloodysick: Nov 25 2011, 12:58 PM

Alpha just launch their DC pump, i think about 1month ago

Icic, no wonder macam never c before, btw, u knw the price? But I still loyal to joven

Alpha 18i official launched on last Saturday 19/11 night at Genting ...................

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Added on November 24, 2011, 11:17 pmI just order an Alpha 18i last Sunday but haven't get the stock yet......hope it can give me a good effect.........

This post has been edited by cenglee: Nov 24 2011, 11:17 PM

so how much you got for the offer? Waiting for your feedback on the performance, haha seems like you are the very first 18i owner

RM698

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Added on November 24, 2011, 11:30 pmActually, I looking for 18EP but finally i found that Alpha just launched a new model with DC pump. So, I've changed my mind to change to 18i since comment for AC pump is not so good..........

This post has been edited by cenglee: Nov 24 2011, 11:30 PM

hmmm....i am considering to buy alpha smart 18i with rainshower for my master bathroom...

so, hope can see more feedback here..

thanks~

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Added on November 25, 2011, 9:59 amYou bought smart 18i with rainshower RM698? where you bought? got free cabin trolley bag?

This post has been edited by tiensong: Nov 25 2011, 09:59 AM