Joven has been very long in the market, good and durable. I also heard many customers asking for Alpha smart, RM 500+ for a normal pump, what a waste of money. Joven I70P is RM 500+ with inverter and SILENT pump. How silent it is, we will need wait for y4ng's feedback.

so how much is the price compare to the Smart.?
can someone PM me?

im using alpha 800EP. So far no problem and the pump are acceptable.

Mine is the opposite, i usually use it at 1, the most i've gone (cold midnight) is 3-4

Maybe my water pressure is low..

The Inverter thugs, is only on the pump right?

DC pump heater is always quieter than AC pump heater

To give you a clear understanding:

DC pump = low dB, less water power, 5 years warranty

AC pump = high dB, high water power, 1 year warranty

panasonic DC pump heater is just Rm400++, i am wondering if it is the cheapest DC pump heater in the market.

Hi i saw a new model of this today comes with a 5" rain shower. How is it Any good? Think it can giv a good rain shower with the pressure? Read yhe manual it says min water flow is around 3L/min

I juz bought one with the rain shower.
Free trolley also.. RM675..
Will install after done with house reno.
Maybe post a short review after that. (end of August)

I m thinking how to solve the water heater pipe problem now but i think i need to use 8" flexible hose.

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cant wait for your review.... 675 is a good price yo

i'd used joven in my old apartment. consider ok lah. pump noise is noticable but not cutting tree lah. good thing about joven is, i encountered some problem with the valve previously and luckily joven carries spare parts but i need to go all the way to shah alam near kota kemuning to buy the parts. so in terms of maintenance and spare parts, joven can take care of it.
in my current home, i'm using panasonic. i think noise is comparable to my previous joven pump heater. but pressure wise i think joven wins.
in my next house, i'm thinking solar heater + grundfus pump!

Hi bro, which model of Panasonic water heater u using now which has noise comparable to joven one? Mind to share? I'm considering Pana water heater ~ But havent decide which model to use. Thanks

Solar + Grundfos Pump, good decision ahah. Rmb to PM me when u wanna purchase them

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Jul 25 2011, 12:02 AM

any1 bought the new alpha smart Rain shower? How is the water pressure?

Actually many customers/forumers came to my shop and said
"Eh, joven good meh? U got sell alpha or not?". Since there are many customers asked the same question, i went to do some survey and here is my conclusion.

Joven + Cabana Rain Shower (Promotion Price RM 788)
Vs Alpha Smart Rain Shower.

1) Joven is using DC pump which is a silent pump and more durable. Alpha is using ordinary AC pump that runs on carbon and will need to add carbon after a few years. DC pump is more durable than AC pump

2) Joven comes with inverter pump & alpha just normal pump.

3) Joven is using in-mould casing technology. Alpha using normal paint spray and paint might come off or bcome lighter after a few years.

4) Cabana Rain Shower is 8" while alpha smart 5" only.

5) Design wise, Alpha's heater looks better than Joven but Cabana Rain shower is better than Alpha's rain shower.

This is the info that i got. So, you all decide which is a better buy.

To view the cabana rain shower set, you can add me in facebook and view it in my promotion album (only members can view)

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?flyingspa...100001245528914

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Jul 29 2011, 10:48 PM

788 for one bathroom. 2 rooms will be about 1600, thats equal to groundfos installation oredi, can cater for 2 rooms.

But is the joven combo provide enough pressure ?

it is different. If u r buying Grundfos the cost would be:
1 x Grundfos Pump
2 x Joven Heater I70e
2 x Cabana Rain shower

Total = RM 2,400

That includes installation?

By the way, how economic is the Joven water heater 170e in terms of electric consumption?

cabana is abs shower head right?
what if i want something like joven + brass head shower set? any pricing and picture to show such combo?
is the joven i70e a new and good model? from what i know the joven is rm400+. so the cabana set is another 300+??
which one better? abs or brass?
thanks.

Joven, Alpha, Panasonic and etc all use 3.6kW. To be frank, electrical consumption is about the same. If u really wanna save on electricity is to invest on solar water heater.

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Added on August 1, 2011, 8:54 pmYes, the cabana shower head is ABS. The promo is in my facebook, jus join to have a look.

Brass is definitely better than ABS but for normal use, ABS is good enough. My showroom Grundfos Demo is UNI E CH 4-50 and I am using an ABS rain shower for demo, still working perfectly.

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Aug 1 2011, 08:54 PM