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post Feb 26 2011, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Feb 26 2011, 09:03 AM)
For a girl, look as blur and innocent as possible, maybe a senior dude may approach you.

For a guy, be as macho and imposing to create the power staff image so big teams will grab you.

But to be honest be humble, observant and prudent unless you are highly confident of your abilities.
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Gahahaha, I've always liked guy staff more than ladies. They are always hardier and more capable of taking shit.

And this may sound sexist, I'm always more willing to mentor fellow dudes, because I feel like it's a brotherhood thing, where bros help out bros. LOL tongue.gif laugh.gif

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post Feb 26 2011, 11:34 AM

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that's so true. A girl with innocent looks in my team got attention lots.

a guy with full of jokes also matters, u can make the team break the ice and client loves u


Added on February 26, 2011, 11:38 am
QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Feb 26 2011, 11:32 AM)
Gahahaha, I've always liked guy staff more than ladies. They are always hardier and more capable of taking shit.

And this may sound sexist, I'm always more willing to mentor fellow dudes, because I feel like it's a brotherhood thing, where bros help out bros. LOL  tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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why you don't like girls staff, it's quite strange bro.. u have not married yet right?

Girls are easier to be controlled for me. I like the innocent one, they always work hard and do what you ask. very relax if have girls staff.
I don't like bossy girl and career minded girl, they are too tough to be controlled

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post Feb 26 2011, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Feb 26 2011, 11:34 AM)
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that's so true. A girl with innocent looks in my team got attention lots.

a guy with full of jokes also matters, u can make the team break the ice and client loves u


Added on February 26, 2011, 11:38 am
why you don't like girls staff, it's quite strange bro.. u have not married yet right?

Girls are easier to be controlled for me. I like the innocent one, they always work hard and do what you ask. very relax if have girls staff.
I don't like bossy girl and career minded girl, they are too tough to be controlled
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I don't like ppl who can't think for themselves. I value the ability to solve their own problems, which generally speaking, guys are better at this.
There are a few very lovely female staff who are very capable of solving their own problems too, but these are few and far between smile.gif but when u get them it's really nice smile.gif
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post Feb 26 2011, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Feb 26 2011, 11:42 AM)
I don't like ppl who can't think for themselves. I value the ability to solve their own problems, which generally speaking, guys are better at this.
There are a few very lovely female staff who are very capable of solving their own problems too, but these are few and far between smile.gif but when u get them it's really nice smile.gif
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haha..then don't look at young staffs la, 21 yrs old, you don't expect them to be a problem solver right?
yup, an innocent one in my team always ask me the easy thing but quite good for my development, I can know something by teaching to others.
But she is very proactive one la, always ask for new tasks after she have finished, even I am lazier than her. Don't you think guys are more slack than ladies? If the senior doesn't ask the task then they just be quiet and sit to do nothing.
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post Feb 26 2011, 12:48 PM

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hi seniors, currently i'm still doing my ACCA professional level. Next sem i will be taking 1paper which is also my last paper. Should i apply for job now ? Need some advice.
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post Feb 26 2011, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Feb 26 2011, 11:42 AM)
I don't like ppl who can't think for themselves. I value the ability to solve their own problems, which generally speaking, guys are better at this.
There are a few very lovely female staff who are very capable of solving their own problems too, but these are few and far between smile.gif but when u get them it's really nice smile.gif
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If the girl got brains + looks + attitude, screw the guys. But i agree they are not many, but when found most really treasure biggrin.gif

Guys are generally ok (rarely got mood swings) but their quality is more varied compared to girls. Some are damn good while some simply vomit blood. But i prefer guys since can talk shit, discuss problem, pijak client, sapu the rubbish, go bar, watch football, play games and talk bout girls (client and internal).

Your last statement indicates like the girl "was" in your team ?


Added on February 26, 2011, 3:53 pm
QUOTE(Materazzi @ Feb 26 2011, 11:49 AM)
haha..then don't look at young staffs la, 21 yrs old, you don't expect them to be a problem solver right?
yup, an innocent one in my team always ask me the easy thing but quite good for my development, I can know something by teaching to others.
But she is very proactive one la, always ask for new tasks after she have finished, even I am lazier than her. Don't you think guys are more slack than ladies? If the senior doesn't ask the task then they just be quiet and sit to do nothing.
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I normally guide people who is either older/same age as me. To me age is not an issue as long as willing to learn. If you have some sort of ego then your problem la. If I can learn from a junior about certain skills also, I wouldn't mind cos it will help me. Strangely most if not all the girls in my team are tough like nuts (there is only 2 or 3 dudes) so I never encountered your issue biggrin.gif

Sigh, for some reason the manager has higher expectation of the guys do deliver on work and socially too as in you have to become the bodyguard, chaffeur, despatch, luggage carrier, tapau man and among others.

Personally if that person sit there and do nothing, I will be the first person to grill.

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Feb 26 2011, 11:34 AM)
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that's so true. A girl with innocent looks in my team got attention lots.

a guy with full of jokes also matters, u can make the team break the ice and client loves u


Added on February 26, 2011, 11:38 am
why you don't like girls staff, it's quite strange bro.. u have not married yet right?

Girls are easier to be controlled for me. I like the innocent one, they always work hard and do what you ask. very relax if have girls staff.
I don't like bossy girl and career minded girl, they are too tough to be controlled
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are u sure that innocent gals are willing to work harder than not-so-innocent looking ones?..this mite not be necessarily true..cos some of them may be the lemah lembut lembik type...
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post Feb 26 2011, 07:45 PM

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There are only 5 guys among the flowers in my department... Apparently most of the new male joiners all opt for audit haha

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supply and demand? XD

talking about this, in the audit world, if the girl is more tomboy-ish and vice versa (the guy more 'weak' (as in indecisive, super need spoon-fed), does this spell doomsday?
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post Feb 27 2011, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Feb 26 2011, 03:48 PM)
If the girl got brains + looks + attitude, screw the guys. But i agree they are not many, but when found most really treasure  biggrin.gif

Guys are generally ok (rarely got mood swings) but their quality is more varied compared to girls. Some are damn good while some simply vomit blood. But i prefer guys since can talk shit, discuss problem, pijak client, sapu the rubbish, go bar, watch football, play games and talk bout girls (client and internal).

Your last statement indicates like the girl "was" in your team ?


Added on February 26, 2011, 3:53 pm

I normally guide people who is either older/same age as me. To me age is not an issue as long as willing to learn. If you have some sort of ego then your problem la. If I can learn from a junior about certain skills also, I wouldn't mind cos it will help me. Strangely most if not all the girls in my team are tough like nuts (there is only 2 or 3 dudes) so I never encountered your issue  biggrin.gif

Sigh, for some reason the manager has higher expectation of the guys do deliver on work and socially too as in you have to become the bodyguard, chaffeur, despatch, luggage carrier, tapau man and among others.

Personally if that person sit there and do nothing, I will be the first person to grill.
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so guys are maid and even more than maid.. always be manipulated by weakness of girls. Chivalry, shitt..
what is the advantage of talking shit? guys who talk shit make me vomit la.. in my team, only me who like football, the other only like watch porn leh.. games also they don't like..
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post Feb 27 2011, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Feb 27 2011, 01:49 AM)
so guys are maid and even more than maid.. always be manipulated by weakness of girls. Chivalry, shitt..
what is the advantage of talking shit? guys who talk shit make me vomit la.. in my team, only me who like football, the other only like watch porn leh.. games also they don't like..
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I met people from all different culture and background, so just adjust accordingly lo. Find a common ground and build from there. If not its not going to be easy to work until midnight everyday. Guys are expected to be the "gentleman" type. The maid thingy cannot avoid la if you are the youngest male there. Feedback for KPI on the balance le if you get my drill tongue.gif

For some reason, the females in my team are more open of those stuffs than me, so kinda weird.
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post Feb 27 2011, 11:23 AM

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hi,

anyone can tell me more on the written assessment and interview in DeLOITTE??


Added on February 27, 2011, 11:23 amhi,

anyone can tell me more on the written assessment and interview in DeLOITTE??

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post Feb 27 2011, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Feb 27 2011, 08:05 AM)
I met people from all different culture and background, so just adjust accordingly lo. Find a common ground and build from there. If not its not going to be easy to work until midnight everyday. Guys are expected to be the "gentleman" type. The maid thingy cannot avoid la if you are the youngest male there. Feedback for KPI on the balance le if you get my drill  tongue.gif

For some reason, the females in my team are more open of those stuffs than me, so kinda weird.
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sian I am the youngest in my firm, because of that I always become the victim one..
I have to bring the girls' thingy, luggage, working paper etc..
always have to photocopy, print, doing useless thingy, even new member in my team( girl, she is 3 yrs older than me without working exp), she asked me to photocopy, get the WP tidy, printer, she said dun want to have useless work that she could not learn, and rubbish thing always in my back. I cannot learn anything and want to resign.
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QUOTE(pat_sy @ Feb 26 2011, 12:48 PM)
hi seniors, currently i'm still doing my ACCA professional level. Next sem i will be taking 1paper which is also my last paper. Should i apply for job now ? Need some advice.
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Yes, you should. You can start to apply as soon as u start the professional level. But expect a lower pay and you must complete ur professional level before promoting to a Senior.
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Feb 27 2011, 02:34 PM)
sian I am the youngest in my firm, because of that I always become the victim one..
I have to bring the girls' thingy, luggage, working paper etc..
always have to photocopy, print, doing useless thingy, even new member in my team( girl, she is 3 yrs older than me without working exp), she asked me to photocopy, get the WP tidy, printer, she said dun want to have useless work that she could not learn, and rubbish thing always in my back. I cannot learn anything and want to resign.
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Isn't that normal in the first month or so? Even me as new joiner have to run up and down to get files and do the photocopying..
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post Feb 27 2011, 08:24 PM

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Haiyo who haven't gone through the "ragging" as juniors. Trust me once they hand out responsibilities, you wish you can go back to the photocopy machines. Imagine that company got over > 100 subs. Moving the box of files is absolute nightmare.
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QUOTE(morgana_jara @ Feb 27 2011, 07:49 PM)
Isn't that normal in the first month or so? Even me as new joiner have to run up and down to get files and do the photocopying..
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sian I almost have already worked for 5 months le..she has just joined in my firm.. she never did photocopying!! I am the one should ask her to print, and I am used by her le.. I am the one who always lock the door and they all leave me la..she also never care me although I have taught her everything until midnight( this one is ok and thanks to her I can learn more by teaching).. she asked me to photocopy her things and she always uses the word 'Please'.. but my team leader always like her because she is naive and so blur..sian..


btw, I have higher responsibility for closing report now(prepare the working paper) and checking the disclosures of the client.
Is this usual for junior to do it? Actually, I want to move to new client, but my partner asked me to do so. This one a company with revenues more than US$ 1 billions duh..

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QUOTE(lykuan82 @ Feb 27 2011, 07:20 PM)
Yes, you should. You can start to apply as soon as u start the professional level. But expect a lower pay and you must complete ur professional level before promoting to a Senior.
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lower pay means how low is that?
as i know the fresh graduate for degree holder in big 4 is now 2600
ACCA holder is 2800


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So tomorrow is the big day, first day of work at EY. biggrin.gif

Probably going to leave and reach really early, not to sure of the jam level of the Sprint. sweat.gif
Anyone know when the peak traffic times are?

Also parking is another big headache rclxub.gif
Probably going to suck up and park at the open air/basement parking, at least for the first few days. Cousin recommended to do what she did while she was interning there, disguise yourself as a student and park over at HELP blink.gif
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Anyone knows that is there any way to take public transport to go KPMG, Deloitte, and EY (PwC wont be a problem coz it is juz at KL Sentral, very convenient place tongue.gif )? For working with these big 3, i think transaport is the major problem for me, coz my partner working at jalan yap kwan seng and v oni have 1 car, so probably i will take public transport to the big 3 office if i got a chance to work with 1 of them.


And i want to ask, during the interview with 1 of the big 4, when they ask u "Did u apply for other big 3?", normally how would u guys answer? tell them honestly or...?

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