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post Dec 4 2010, 11:09 AM

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dari buku ini pula..

SEDJARAH MINANGKABAU
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"Tiga anak dari Raja Iskandar Zulkarnain (Alexander Agung) dari Makadunia (Macedonia) iaitu Maharajo Alif, Maharajo Japang dan Maharajo Dirajo berlayar bersama, dan saat dalam perjalanan mereka bertengkar sehingga mahkota kerajaan jatuh ke dalam laut.

Maharajo Dirajo yang membawa Cati Bilang Pandai seorang pandai emas- berhasil membuat satu serupa dengan mahkota yang hilang itu. Mahkota itu lalu ia serahkan kepada abang-abangnya, tetapi mereka mengembalikannya kepada Maharajo Dirajo karena ia dianggap yang paling berhak menerima, iaitu karena telah berhasil menemukannya. Mereka adik beradik lalu berpisah. Maharajo Alif meneruskan perjalanan ke Barat dan menjadi Raja di Bizantium, sedang Maharajo Japang ke Timur lalu menjadi menjadi Raja di China dan Jepang (Jepun), manakala Maharajo Dirajo ke Selatan sedang perahunya terkandas di puncak Gunung Merapi saat Banjir Nabi Nuh melanda. Begitu banjir surut, dari puncak gunung Merapi yang diyakini sebagai asal alam Minangkabau turunlah rombongan Maharajo Dirajo dan berkampung disekitarnya.

kalau kita perhati reka bentuk rumah melayu minangkabau dengan di negara China dan negara Jepun..
rekaan kuno diaorang semua memang macam lebih kurang je, semuanya mau ada tanduk di atas bumbung rumah diaorang

rekabentuk kuno rumah gadang Melayu Minangkabau
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"Iskandar Zulkarnain" dalam pengertian bahasa ialah "Dia yang Bertanduk Dua"

diaorang kata keturunan raja melayu minangkabau, keturunan raja jepun, keturunan raja cina.. semuanya berasal dari Iskandar Zulkarnain

kaitan kesultanan Melayu Perak, sultan Melaka, kenapa kata "selilit tanah minangkabau"?
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...hl=sultan+perak

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masanya akan tiba MALAYSIA MENUJU KUASA BESAR DUNIA!

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post Dec 4 2010, 11:31 AM

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post Dec 4 2010, 11:39 AM

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post Dec 4 2010, 11:45 AM

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post Dec 4 2010, 11:50 AM

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post Dec 4 2010, 11:56 AM

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whts ur point actually??
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post Dec 4 2010, 12:10 PM

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post Dec 4 2010, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(AKace @ Dec 4 2010, 03:18 AM)
although i'm a malay, i gotta admit that hang tuah is chinese
i noe ur just trollin but i still wan u to read dis tongue.gif

kalau dah baca sori blush.gif

http://mistisfiles.blogspot.com/2010/07/ka...l-dan-hang.html
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post Dec 4 2010, 12:54 PM

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http://tokoh1038.blogspot.com/2005/05/iska...kluk-agung.html

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Manakala dalam masyarakat Barat, beliau dipanggil Alexander The Great.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great

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Born in Pella in 356 BC


So he was born 2366 years ago.

So you mean 2300 years ago chinese and malays didn't exist?? LOOOOL notworthy.gif

98% of chinese are the Han Chinese.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Chinese

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Many Han and other Chinese also call themselves "Descendants of the Yan Di (Yan Emperor) and Huang Di (Yellow Emperor)" (Chinese: 炎黃子孫 or 炎黄子孙).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Emperor

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Tradition holds that he reigned from 2697–2597 BCE[5] or 2696–2598 BCE.[2] He is regarded as the founder of Chinese civilization.


it's like around 4500~5000 years ago??

this thread is really bs.
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post Dec 4 2010, 01:05 PM

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post Dec 4 2010, 01:16 PM

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post Dec 4 2010, 01:18 PM

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98% of chinese are the Han Chinese.

mao lies..... manchus are
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post Dec 4 2010, 01:18 PM

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post Dec 4 2010, 01:20 PM

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alkisahnya suatu masa dahulu.. sumber dari http://mozaikminang.wordpress.com/2009/10/...i-gunung-marapi

Dikatakan pula oleh Tambo, bahwa dalam pelayaran putera-putera Raja Iskandar Zulkarnain tiga bersaudara, dekat pulau Sailan mahkota emas mereka jatuh ke dalam laut. Sekalian orang pandai selam telah diperintahkan untuk mengambilnya. Tetapi tidak berhasil, karena mahkota itu dipalut oleh ular bidai di dasar laut. (NAGA??) Cati Bilang Pandai memanggil seorang pandai mas. Tukang mas itu diperintahkannya untuk membuat sebuah mahkota yang serupa. Setelah mahkota itu selesai dengan pertolongan sebuah alat yang mereka namakan “ camin taruih” untuk dapat menirunya dengan sempurna. Setelah selesai tukang yang membuatnya pun dibunuh, agar rahasia tidak terbongkar dan jangan dapat ditiru lagi.

Waktu Sri Maharaja Diraja terbangun, mahkota itu diambilnya dan dikenakannya diatas kepalanya. Ketika pangeran yang berdua lagi terbangun bukan main sakit hati mereka melihat mahkota itu sudah dikuasai oleh si bungsu. Maka terjadilah pertengkaran, sehingga akhirnya mereka terpisah.

Sri Maharaja Alif meneruskan pelayarannya ke Barat. Ia mendarat di Tanah Rum. Sri Maharaja Dipang membelok ke Timur, memerintah negeri Cina dan menaklukkan negeri Jepang. (Jepun)

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cerita dia lebih kurang macam apa yang diceritakan oleh kesultanan melayu johor dalam buku Sulalatul Salatin : SEJARAH Melayu dan juga cerita kesultanan melayu perak tentang kenapa dibuat istiadat tabal jin (sekarang namanya istiadat tabal pusaka) serta kaitannya dengan kesultanan melayu melaka.

kaitan kesultanan Melayu Perak, sultan Melaka, kenapa kata "selilit tanah minangkabau"?

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1662113&hl=perak

website rasmi raja negeri perak tentang istiadat tabal pusaka : http://rajakita.perak.gov.my/bmtabalpusaka.html

semua versi cerita ni semuanya kata raja melayu dan raja cina bersaudara pada asalnya.. dan semuanya berketurunan dari iskandar zulkarnain.

dalam cerita dragon ball sailan jadi saiyan... LOL laugh.gif

mitossssss!!
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post Dec 4 2010, 01:21 PM

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Iskandar Zulkarnain = Alexander the Great = not even muslim...he is macedonian...everyone in the world knows that. Read "Studies of Alexander the Great in Fact & Fiction - by OUP"

But obviously the book author hijack him as muslim. And say Chinese descended from him...

This is sejarah tahi lembu. This is the kind of education you'll get when u go to national schools. They twist historical facts to fit their own fantasy. No wonder malaysian education system is a failure.

p/s: BTW, Alexander great is bi-sexual, pedo boy rapist...

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post Dec 4 2010, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(Virion @ Dec 4 2010, 12:54 PM)
http://tokoh1038.blogspot.com/2005/05/iska...kluk-agung.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great
So he was born 2366 years ago.

So you mean 2300 years ago chinese and malays didn't exist?? LOOOOL notworthy.gif

98% of chinese are the Han Chinese.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Chinese
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Emperor
it's like around 4500~5000 years ago??

this thread is really bs.
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one more question is dragon really exist? can blow fire some more.. have horns also
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post Dec 4 2010, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(hack3line @ Dec 4 2010, 01:33 PM)
one more question is dragon really exist? can blow fire some more.. have horns also
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orang yang tak belajar sains pun tau tak wujud, tapi percaya hantu wujud pulak.
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post Dec 4 2010, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(eim_joez @ Dec 4 2010, 12:26 PM)
i noe ur just trollin but i still wan u to read dis  tongue.gif

kalau dah baca sori  blush.gif

http://mistisfiles.blogspot.com/2010/07/ka...l-dan-hang.html
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post Dec 4 2010, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(hack3line @ Dec 4 2010, 01:33 PM)
one more question is dragon really exist? can blow fire some more.. have horns also
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Yes, dragons existed.

Didn' melayu warrior permas kumambang killed one using pedang chora sa manda kian/chura si manjakini?

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QUOTE(najminaruto @ Dec 4 2010, 01:36 PM)
orang yang tak belajar sains pun tau tak wujud, tapi percaya hantu wujud pulak.
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mungkin ada benarnya sultan kelantan kata bahawa iskandar zulkarnain guna ilmu yang tuhan berikan panggil naga keluar, sembur api dari mulut dia untuk buat benteng yakjud makjud.

pengasas negara china, raja pertama negara cina Huang Ti, tu banyak orang kata suka main magic..
kemungkinan besar nama Qin itu merujuk kepada JIN! hmm.gif

Qin Dynasty.. the first china dynasty


kalau baca kebanyakan buku-buku sejarah lama tentang asal-usul raja diaorang, teramat banyak kata diaorang berasal dari keturunan Iskandar Zulkarnain.. bermula dari sebelah greek, parsi hinggalah ke jepun seperti yang diceritakan oleh orang istana kesultanan johor.

mythssssssssssss!!

penyimpan rahsia kesultanan melaka, johor dan acheh bernama Tun Sri Lanang, penulis asal Sejarah Melayu..
namanya diabadikan pada Perpustakaan Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia (UKM)

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