QUOTE(GailExoduSx @ Dec 2 2010, 10:16 PM)
Try to call the Unifi line at 1-300 88 1222.Streamyx Streamyx Capping International Connections v2, TM confirms cap will remain
Streamyx Streamyx Capping International Connections v2, TM confirms cap will remain
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Dec 2 2010, 10:23 PM
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Dec 2 2010, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(sanders @ Dec 2 2010, 10:23 PM) Maybe because everyone is calling support to complain about the international speed and they are telling everyone to test with local speedometer speed. The speedometer server is tired and cannot cope... |
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Dec 2 2010, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(cshong @ Dec 2 2010, 11:15 PM) I hope any psychologist here can help me. Almost every time when I wish to call TM to scold them or just like harryfoo said "F them up, give them pressure", but when they answer my call, I speak to them nicely, don't know why. Because they have capped your anger... |
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Dec 2 2010, 11:51 PM
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Dec 3 2010, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE(Tentris @ Dec 2 2010, 11:34 PM) Rebates will not regain lost trust. Trust was lost a long time ago, not because of this one incident. The only reason they may give rebates is because they admitted to us that they made a huge blunder. Rebate may be considered not because they feel they owe us for this mistake, but to smoothen things about so it does not affect their future plans.This post has been edited by mylinear: Dec 3 2010, 12:30 AM |
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Dec 6 2010, 01:55 AM
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QUOTE(biatche @ Dec 5 2010, 11:08 PM) Added on December 5, 2010, 11:10 pmWhat will be fun is, we stick a screamyx slow as hell sticker behind our car, and drive VERY 1km/h inside TM building. |
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Dec 6 2010, 02:19 AM
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Dec 6 2010, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE(Tentris @ Dec 6 2010, 11:17 PM) Latest news. First the cap will be lifted in 2 days. Now it will all be refined in 2 days."There was unfortunately an ipcore breakdown over the weekend which was restored within a day but may have also impacted our our refinement exercise. Even as we speak they are continually refining." 2 more days before the rest of the fixes make it across all users. It appears that they are making everyone settle for what they think should be cap as they see fit. If previously we were getting 10-20KB/s, they will now so-call refine it and maybe we'll end up getting 30-50KB/s (examples only) and thus feel its much better than previously so we'll settle for it. There is still no explanation about why just 2-3 weeks ago we were all going on as per noormal getting mor realistic speeds according to our subscribed packages like 100KB/s etc. And now suddenly everyone has to get much slower international downloads whether its heavy or light users. |
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Dec 6 2010, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(Trony @ Dec 6 2010, 11:40 PM) IMO: Based on the way Streamyx users have been treated all these years, its a matter of time that TM implements the data transfer limits for Unifi users or come up with some FUP or other terms for Unifi users as well. But first they need to make sure as many users as possible sign up for Unifi. Once its enough, they will do something which will cause Unifi users to have similar problems as Streamyx users are having now. This recent capping is a desperate measure by gov+TM to sacrifice Streamyx bandwidth to safeguard their pet project, Unifi, their last calling card to win over net community, so they are very afraid of this equation: Remove capping = F.U.P for all (Unifi+Streamyx) = subscribers dump Unifi = dump curr gov next GE Just think about how low they must think of users. On one hand they can say Streamyx users are downloading too much and they need to do some sort of capping in order to be fair to users. On the other hand, Unifi users have higher speeds and downloading much more than Streamyx users can. Both groups are Internet users. Who cannot see something is wrong here? |
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Dec 7 2010, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(Tentris @ Dec 7 2010, 11:04 AM) Added on December 7, 2010, 11:07 am The cap will not be lifted. They have made that clear. So no point asking for that. Instead, there are two options: 1. Ask them to increase their available bandwidth OR 2. Ask them to adopt a pay as you use model Option 1 is more expensive for them Option 2 is more expensive for us (well some of us anyways, the light users will rejoice) And again, while we thank you for the update, how absurd is it that TM cannot update their own users on their own but have to use you as a middle man? They think users will be more accepting if it comes from another fellow user? They are just protecting themselves from the wrath of the users. Are you still in talks with them? What is the progress? |
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Dec 7 2010, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(Tentris @ Dec 7 2010, 01:37 PM) Believe it or not, we here at LYN don't make up even 0.01% of their user base. It does not matter how many customers they have or how many of those customers are here or complaining. When a company such as TM implements such a system that has such an impact on its customers, it should be responsible enough to make announcements or updates etc officially on their website or via email etc. Not pass info to you to pass on to us.How many of us here? let's be optimistic and say 10,000 who read and complain on this particular topic (i think actually its a lot less than this). How many internet customers does TM have? 10 million? 10,000/10,000,000 = that's a shit small % That's why they can't be bothered to release an official statement or even dedicate their resources to speaking to us directly. If i don't bother to ask them and bug them (i have Dato Zam's HP number, i can call him anytime), they won't even tell me anything. Whatever they tell me that i can share, i will share with you all. Because for me, even if only 10,000 customers, i think that's already 10,000 too many that have valid complaints. A company as big as TM should strive for 0% complaints. If a car manufacturere finds a defect in a few of their cars, they announce it and make a recall of some batches. They don't just keep quiet just because a handful of cars had problem out of the million they sold. That's what large companies which are responsible do. You are probably being updated only because you have some contact with the CEO and everyone wants to be nice to you. They are not supposed to be nice to you, they are supposed to be taking care of their customers. Don't read this wrong, nothing against you, its about TM. Added on December 7, 2010, 3:26 pm QUOTE(Tentris @ Dec 7 2010, 02:06 PM) No CEO goes into that sort of detail, i'm not going to waste his time or my limited opportunities to speak to him on something like that. tentris, we asked a favour of you to highlight this current capping issue we are facing to TM because you have the contact to do so. At this time, this capping issue is the main concern and problem for Streamyx users. What "big strategic ideas" are you talking about? I do not remember any of us asking for anything else to be done via your contact with the CEO. The help we all need now is to do with the capping. If i call him for every little thing, pretty soon he will ignore me, and i want to save those "bullets" for big strategic ideas. This post has been edited by mylinear: Dec 7 2010, 03:26 PM |
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Dec 7 2010, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(biatche @ Dec 7 2010, 03:30 PM) mylinear, after so long, you don't get it still? biatche , I know how TM is. So does everyone else here I guess. Everyone is just ranting and raving. I am too. I know you are not happy to read my posts which because you think I am talking about logic which does not apply to TM. Then maybe we should all just stop posting on this thread since nothing can be done by just posting our thoughts. THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT MONEY. THERE IS DIRTY PLAY INVOLVED. THEY WILL NOT DO THINGS TO PLEASE YOU, BIG CORPORATION OR NOT. THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE THEY DONT WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE. I was just replying to tentris to make my point that IMO he is being used as a middle-man, which is not what we asked the favour from him to do for us. |
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Dec 7 2010, 07:44 PM
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Dec 7 2010, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(aleluya @ Dec 7 2010, 06:40 PM) I have been capped, now only realize that my line only able to download 50 kbps.. I think there are many users who are not aware of the cap especially since TM has done this behind our backs. Many normal users will not know about it as they can still surf etc normally. But will only realise it if they do some international downloads and realise the speed is very low.damn... location at taman pertama cheras It seems that this is what TM is banking on. That is, they do not get that many complaints. Because many many are unaware of it, so won't complain. They disregard the fact that users are paying for something but cannot use it when they want to because of the silent cap. I suggest everyone here tells all their friends on Streamyx to check on this capping. There are many users who do not read this or other forums and are not aware. So the easiest way is, if you know other Streamyx users, tell them about it and ask them to check and complain if they want. Who knows, maybe some large company or a law firm or some user who is a big shot may take up this issue further with the relevant authorities. Otherwise its just us complaining here and going round in circles. Added on December 7, 2010, 7:53 pm QUOTE(Laier @ Dec 7 2010, 07:22 PM) You serious? The capping is here to stay? Did they actually mention it was going to be implemented in their system,for like FOREVER? Well, that's what tentris who has contact with the CEO and top management says in post #1814.This post has been edited by mylinear: Dec 7 2010, 07:53 PM |
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Dec 7 2010, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(Tentris @ Dec 7 2010, 08:03 PM) Latest news: 1. I thought they only needed 2 more days to complete what they were doing? Now they have completely changed parameters again? Who does live testing like this on a large user base??"Btw, pleased to report the team has been hard at work and we are completely changing the parameters and optimizing international bandwidth tonight. We have analyzed the profiles of the complaints and have confirmed that the majority are heavy users. Of course our real concern is the pact to non heavy users and business customers. Hence we will still maintain some form of traffic management. BUT it's important for them to know that there is an order of priority for business users and high end packages specifically. We will report back officially tonight but hope you an relay the message that there should be substantial improvement past midnight." Let's see if things improve later on tonight. Keep the speedtests coming fellas. I want to see this before i believe it. 2. They are concerned about impacting light and business users but they still want to do this capping which is also affecting light and business users still? As I said previously, light users are probably not making the complaints as they are unaware of this behind the scenes capping. Once again, I think we should all let anyone we know who has Streamyx to test their speeds and make a complaint. 3. Rather than make tentris do the dirty work, I would rather the VP of Corp Comm "turun padang" to us and interact with us. 4. tentris, can you find out whether they are actually capping based on accounts (ie heavy vs light vs business) or they just mean that by looking at past history of those who complain, they conclude those are heavy users. But the capping does not distinguish as it is based on active connections rather than account based. I know for a fact that there are light users who are just as affected as heavy users. |
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Dec 7 2010, 11:23 PM
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Maybe they have totally removed the capping system before implementing the new system after midnight??
Or is this already the new system at work? Can tentris confirm this as it is not yet midnight as was scheduled. Or maybe like the previous so-called bug which incorrectly capped at lower than intended, this may be a new bug which is capping higher than intended....??? |
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QUOTE(flam1x @ Dec 7 2010, 11:29 PM) If my instinct is correct, I believe these few days or maybe month TM will run a program to detect heavy users and cap them individually soon. Better beware even they lifted the cap. those who download whole day can be easily detected This was what I was thinking too. In fact, they may already be doing that right now seeing that everyone is going to start downloading if their cap appears lifted for now.it could be a tarp.. -Best effort basis my arse- |
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Dec 7 2010, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(biatche @ Dec 7 2010, 11:33 PM) despairing customers ==[give full speed]===> calm clients down. heat level rose too high. Amazing if they can suddenly lift the cap now (or at least it appears that way for now), why couldn't they do this 2 weeks ago then study the system. It does seem something else is coming up soon, maybe after midnight? Like you said, wait and see.later sure got problem again. give it some time. |
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Did you all get disconnected and re-connected before you started seeing the faster speeds?
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