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Streamyx Streamyx Capping International Connections v2, TM confirms cap will remain

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post Dec 8 2010, 07:54 PM

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For too long have we been swindled. They have 3 states: happy, bearable, pissed. When unifi was first launched, there were no caps. Customer state: happy. When they capped streamyx: pissed. When they lifted cap: bearable (cuz we are still way behind other countries and there's still latency issues). This will go on forever, and it has already been going on for a very long time.

We must not let them keep playing us around like this. Keep hating, do not stop. Today things are better, and another day, things will be very bad.

These 3 states are like a pump for money. Never stop hating. Keep the hate growing!
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post Dec 8 2010, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(Tentris @ Dec 8 2010, 07:59 PM)
The idea for pay for use is mine.

TM doesn't like the other, they want to continue with the FUP CAP policy, for Streamyx and for Unifi too later.

I hate being capped, i think its stupid and it's a weak excuse for lousy traffic management policies.

I'm in favour of the utility consumption model i.e. pay as you use.

Unlimited users can still get unlimited but they will need to pay a high price e.g. Unifi BIZ20 package.

If you don't want to pay that price, then its pay as you use.

The rate can be discussed later but i thought that RM1 = 1GB is reasonable comparing against other prices here locally.

Of course, change the price as the market changes e.g. bandwidth becomes cheaper.

Keep the speeds as advertised. 1MB is 1MB. 4MB is 4MB. But users pay the more bandwidth they use i.e. the more they download (don't care what you download, not TM's problem).

No one appointed me to speak to TM on your behalf. And i don't pretend to them that i speak with your voice.

I speak with my own voice. If you disagree with me, that's ok, i am open to listen. If you convince me, i can always change my mind.

But it is my right to speak to TM as i wish; no one here can tell me to stop talking to them. I'm a customer too. And they have been quite open with me, asking my opinion and asking me to help whenever i can, so why not i be open with them too.

edit: pay to use is of course not "my" idea. other people have used it before, e.g. YTL YES, TNB, Syabas, even Shell and Petronas, lol. I just thought that it would be a great way to naturally control traffic (people dare not overuse otherwise it means huge bill).
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Your buddy Zamzizam thinks about himself and makes some decisions -- making the entire nation suffer. Decision is costs remain the same, but provide less. At present, for the price we pay, we should be getting A LOT MORE. Way below market standards. Do not debate that costs are expensive because your buddy Zamzizam says so. Annual profits are indicating otherwise. In fact, 1,500,000 x RM100 (monthly avg) == 150,000,000 million a month. There is virtually no competition. Do not debate this because the minister says so. You do not even agree with your buddy's decision.
You now think about yourself and make some decisions -- will many to suffer and TM to prosper. Decision is paying the same STARTING amount, and MORE* based on usage, while still offering BEST EFFORT. So if international links die, high latency issues (oh you really have no idea do you?), packet loss, outages etc... Are you suggesting that TMNet will NOW be responsible for all these? You are a genius. They earn more, and offer the same amount of promise. For all you know, they can still cap as they like. ?Did Zamzizam offer you his used car?

If you are fighting for us, why are you not fighting for them to provide MARKET standards? Or at the very least, BELOW market standards but NOT all the way at the bottom? Why are your suggestions based on people paying more when we are already given very little? Sharing profits with Zamzi eh?
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post Dec 8 2010, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(wongpeter @ Dec 8 2010, 10:29 PM)
"So just because we are not posting any suggestion, it means we cannot point out all the flaws in it? Right"
- My exact words were: Why criticize it without even trying to offer any alternative solutions?
I did not say you cannot point out the flaws in it, right?


"...had he not parade himself like a crusader for consumers."
- I think that's your personal opinion, not something that everyone here may agree with. Right?

"Look at other countries that actually provide high speed broadband with great service, that is the future."
- Yes that's the future but pray tell which country are you comparing with Malaysia? S. Korea? Japan? Singapore? You want to compare Malaysia with those countries? Talk about rose tinted glasses! Maybe you have been overseas for too long and have lost touch with the reality of local politics or you are really being naive here.

"Any possible solution involves competition."
- You are talking about TM, right? You know TM is a monopoly, right? So what is this competition you are talking about? A hypothetical situation? Or do you have some ideas on how to bring about real competition to Malaysia's ISP industry?

"Tmnet will always be greedy,"
- I am 100% in agreement.

"lets not give them more ways to screw us consumers over"
- Here's the $64 question - HOW?
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Just continue ranting and ranting until everybody shares a clear enemy. When that time comes, people will decide what to do, and thing is, they will (hopefully by then) do it together.

Right now, hatred isn't intense enough yet. TM keeps playing this ice and fire game, cooling situations each time when things get too hot. People just resume and go on. People must not forget, and they must hate with all their heart.
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post Dec 8 2010, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(FallenOut @ Dec 8 2010, 11:12 PM)
they r makin a mockery out of us

sayin its fixed to stop our complains or close our reports
then after tat
cap us back

is tis a joke or wat
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why do you seem surprised? don't know what they are capable of still? they are even capable of accepting users to terminate their accounts, heavy users especially. maybe that's what they want.
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post Dec 9 2010, 02:45 PM

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RULES OF BUSINESS --

1. Customer is always right.
2. Provide customer want they want.

RULES OF GLC BUSINESS --

1. Customer is always wrong.
2. Provide customer what they cannot have.
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post Dec 9 2010, 02:54 PM

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In Malaysia, good is not important, look good is important.
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post Dec 11 2010, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(jimfoa @ Dec 10 2010, 11:34 PM)
Sorry I didn't read your previous post regarding this matter. I encountered the same problem with my IMbps connection, my local connection was capped at 512Kbps and it took almost two months to resolve.

A technician visited my premises 4 time and it was only after being given a telephone number/e-mail address to the relevant department that my complaint was then resolved within a few days.

Since as you indicated I am a TM defender, though nothing could be further from the truth, then there is probably no point in passing the above info to you. Good luck with resolving your issue.
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1. 2 months to resolve.
2. visit 4 times.
3. localized problem

This here is a nation-wide issue.

What makes you think nobody here tried calling, genius? You do realize the system fail don't you? It's rotten inside and outside. Have you gotten used to the smell?


Added on December 11, 2010, 2:08 am
QUOTE(jimfoa @ Dec 10 2010, 09:51 PM)
Thanks for the feedback I wasn't aware that the "illegal movie downloaders" were responsible for driving the increase in speed and capacities. If this is the case maybe TM should update their terms and conditions to clarify their transmission of certain material.

I suppose the "illegal movie downloaders" are also responsible for the reduction in costs of legal DVDs, oh wait...
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Maybe you realize most Malaysians are "very wealthy" and "can" afford everything. and Maybe you also realize they "are" humans. I mean one so proper like you, who follows the justice, understands everything including the system and human beings, so proper with everything including typing.. one so admirable like you..... so perfect... SHOULD understand people make their own judgments, decisions and compromise. Such as yourself, the rest of the people and the government. You think you're perfect eh? You cannot even UNDERSTAND people. You may have been born with a silver spoon, but, for the risks involved, people, both poor and rich alike, would prefer to freely download as and how they please... If you wanna do something, help the people earn money so that they can freely purchase. You can start doing that by asking the government how they are spending the peoples money.

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post Dec 11 2010, 01:33 PM

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ya know, i used to get awful rates to file sharing sites, now am getting good rates.

and over the past long period, i've found that they "slowdown" different areas from time to time. take turns to limit different areas?
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post Dec 11 2010, 02:07 PM

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Just say no votes to them is pressure.
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post Dec 12 2010, 12:18 PM

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yeah just noticed that filesharing sites are now fast. but not you know what our backbone is capable of.

of course it won't last for long.

oh yea, forgot to mention.. loading just about any website is way more responsive than before. remember that fellas.

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post Dec 12 2010, 01:03 PM

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one of the biggest mistakes people make in life is being hopeful
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post Dec 12 2010, 03:09 PM

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50% of users are miscapped

some over, some under
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QUOTE(akash3656 @ Dec 12 2010, 05:53 PM)
Doubt so.... over... you wish....
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More over than under. Yes, coming from TM, does indeed sound funny.
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post Dec 12 2010, 10:49 PM

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about 10-15min ago, my transfers that were going at full speed stopped, and i had to restart downloads, this time going at 1-3KB/sec.

so i guess cap is back on.


Added on December 12, 2010, 10:51 pmoh yeah, dls keep stalling now... and even loading this very page here in lowyat forums. with downloads at fullspeed, it would load immediately previously, now keep stalling.

christ, this is the most failed country in the world.

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post Dec 13 2010, 12:32 AM

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oh that was just temporary... well, always problems, even if for a minute.
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post Dec 13 2010, 01:06 PM

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Currently at 30% subscribed speed since 11:30am

Anybody else?
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post Dec 13 2010, 04:24 PM

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yeb, we're taking turns.
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post Dec 13 2010, 09:21 PM

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that's interesting.... those who were capped are now uncapped and those who weren't.... are now....
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post Dec 14 2010, 12:10 AM

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alright..
for now, i think they throttle peak hours, and turn it off off peak hours.

too soon to speak though, might be some random crap from them as usual
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post Dec 14 2010, 06:51 PM

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Forget debating whether certain speedtest servers belong to tm or not. It is NOT important. The debate should be whether Mr Zamzizam and co are good honest people and whether they are doing good for the people. Every inch of anger should be directed to them and whoever is related, NOT just a vague TM, or their customer support.

When there is lag, say Fuk Zam, I will fuk up him next time I see him. When you are capped, say Go to hell Zam & co. When there's a fly in your soup, throw it to Zam's face.

Keep the hatred growing. We're gonna need it in the near future.

The same way as, did the world hate germany? No. They hated hitler.

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