Nvidia vs ATI and the HTC vs Iphone thingy were just an example of your style of posting, by conveniently quoting ONE youtube source and then CONCLUDING that A is better than B. That's your STYLE of posting. We don't tolerate anything like that here and also LEARN to read my post carefully

First and foremost, what's with the bowl and plate analogy? Such a weak back up claim

Again, you DARE conclude that Nikon is BETTER than Canon in photography just by quoting a youtube source, reviewed by Kai Wong?How convinient is that.. If it's so easy to make such CONCLUSIONS, then there will be no more brand wars, no more headaches in choosing either Canon or Nikon, because u can QUOTE a youtube source and use it to your advantage

And not again, you don't really read well do you? I CLEARLY mentioned, there's no fair comparison really between a Full Frame DSLR against a APS-H DSLR. The Nikon D3s is FF camera while the 1D Mk 4 is a APS-H camera, D3s has 12mp while the 1D4 has 16mp, so this comparison isn't really fair don't you think?

It's the same like you don't compare ISO performance between a Nikon D700 against a nice 550D. Obviously the former, will pawn it kao kao

And are you now going to call me a fanboy again? READ my posts properly and carefully, neither did i make such BLATANT conclusions which you like to do, and neither did i mention "this is better than that" thingy.

Oh great, bigger view of camera and photography? Yout style of posting doesn't show that at all, you quote one source and conclude that "Nikon is better than Canon in Photography" <------- Does this look like "Bigger view" to you. It's SHALLOW for your information.

You're the FIRST person i've seen here, in fact the last 2 recommendations thread, who POSTS in such a way.

You have many flaws in your posts here and there, you're making baseless conclusions all the way, and yes this is NOT the way things go around here.

And yes, i'm not going to discuss this further and i hope this will be the last of your STYLE of postings And yes, such posts will be REPORTED if you continue to do so agan

I was just correcting the way he's posting, the stuff he's spewing around, the things he's misleading others. And no, there's wasn't any Brand war at all. It's just me correcting him

And yes, discussions should continue. Nikon vs Canon will always continue, that's why most of us here would recommend them a few models in mind and ask them to test it out in the shops. At the end of the day, most likely it's what feels/works best for them , is what they're going to bring home.Hence, the recommendations on what's good and whatnot

Anyway, not going to pursue this anymore, and sorry for making it look like a mess

As far as I know, it's around RM2.4k for body only and around RM3.4k for body+18-105 kit lens

I was quoting prices around KL iinm, so it might differ in Ipoh.

This post has been edited by -kytz-: Dec 17 2010, 01:23 AM

Both are great cameras, but why the need for a 18-200? You can use that money to get better lenses

Which shopping complex you went to la?

So expensive wan, shops in Kl selling around RM3.4k

Lowyat Plaza,Sungei Wang, BB Plaza- shops in Bukit Bintang area. You can check out the IT Centre in Time Square also.

But i can't give specific shops la, because i bought mine in PJ

This post has been edited by -kytz-: Dec 20 2010, 01:59 AM

You won't be able to get any NEW DSLR with that budget unless a 2nd hand unit. Else, top up to around RM1.5k then we'll start talking

You won't be getting a good price trading in your DSLR compared to selling if off as 2nd hand, this i can assure you

Anyway, welcome to LYN my brother kidzz! Your nick sounds like mine

You need to go close to your subject

S95 and LX5 are nice cameras with both featuring the f/2.0 lens which is better in low light than other cameras in the markeT



Handshake or not, depends on the settings you're shooting at. If you know your stuff, then you'll surely know how to counter "blur" pictures. You'll know once you start learning about your tools when you get them


Edit or not, is entirely up to you.

But la, editing pictures is a fundamental process, to producing much better image quality. The camera doesn't know what type of colours you would want, so it just captures the scene according to what it is assigned to do, so it's up to you the "artist" to paint the picture

I bet you've seen a "before and after" for unedited ---------> edited

This post has been edited by -kytz-: Dec 23 2010, 05:07 PM

why lor? I bet it won't be 0 lo. Unless its a sealed package la

You didn't mention DSLR= tons of $$$ and poisons $$$

PnS= Good for wallet

You can get either a Nikon D3000 or a Canon 1000D for around RM1.5k

Performance wise, I'm guessing they're pretty much similar.Do try it out at shops to see which you like best.

Oh btw, if you're getting the Nikon and probably another lens, do bear in mind that the D3000 can only pair up with AF-S lenses to be able to Auto Focus

Can you specify whether a compact Point and Shoot or a DSLR?

Ahh.. very poisonous indeed.

I'm guessing you would need a 20mm f/1.7 pancake lens at least, to get such effects. The standard zoom 14-42mm I believe might not have that much of a shallow DOF.

The GF1 has a pretty quick AF from what I read, so I would expect the GF2 to have similar performance if not faster

Controls and button layout for both GF2 and NEX5 are pretty different. One is I guess designed for the those upgrading from the regular PnS while the other are rather for more "serious" shooters as there are more dedicated buttons and better "usablility". Do try them out, they're really different. Pick the one which you find nice handling. Good Luck

This post has been edited by -kytz-: Jan 14 2011, 12:11 AM

For the 500/550D,there are various kit lenses that come together like 18-55 or 18-135 or even 18-200.

550D has some neat features over the 550D like the

1)18mp sensor
2)iFCL metering system
3)Auto ISO up to ISO6400 iinm
4)Faster burst rate
5)3:2 ratio LCD screen with a better resolution(1040k colours iinm)
6)SDXC memory cards compatible
7)ISO range now expandable to ISO12800, and ISO6400 is no longer in expanded mode
8)etc

The 550D is indeed the successor of the 500D. So it's better in almost every department. Just like an iphone 4 is better than a 3GS

If you're into Canon, then the 550D is quite a good deal. I'm using one, and I find it pretty good for my needs.

Of course, there are other offerings from other brands as well, notably Nikon and Sony. Put in Nikon D3100 and Sony A55/A580 into your consideration list as well. Heard good stuff about them You can shortlist a few models in mind, or perhaps some of our recommendations, and maybe try all of em' at your local shop. Especially if you're a DSLR newbie, I'd suggest to take the most practical approach, that is to choose which you like handling best, rather than looking purely at specifications which might confuse you even further. Good luck

This post has been edited by -kytz-: Jan 14 2011, 02:35 AM

Sony is such a huge electronics company, we all know that. Hence, they have so much to cover- LCD TVs, laptops, handphones, walkmans and cameras ?

Pity Canon and Nikon la, they don't have much to advertise about- only cameras

Oh btw guys, been reading some comments here lately, do be careful with your comments because I smell some fanboy-ism

This post has been edited by -kytz-: Jan 16 2011, 02:57 AM

Question is, is the Beginner good enough for the 550D?

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Added on January 17, 2011, 5:33 amI'd get option 2 anytime, because a brand new body for me is so important since I'm going to use it for like 2-3 years time down the road, so I wouldn't want it to be in a used condition

Getting the body only is not much of a problem, but sourcing out for the 18-55 lens could be a real hassle. I took around 1 month to actually get mine through Garage Sales here, pretty sweet deal 1 month old-almost never used for a mere RM300, also with 2 years 11 months warranty left So yeah, if you have the patience, so why not? No big deal if you're only getting a 2nd hand 18-55 kit lens, who uses it for like 2-3 years? I see mostly after 1 year already "upgrade" already hahaha

This post has been edited by -kytz-: Jan 17 2011, 05:56 AM

Now now... what's with that generalization? It's misleading and there's no clear basis to what you said. "A man's meat may be another man's poison"

I've been hearing this for quite some time now. Kindly name them out

This post has been edited by -kytz-: Jan 23 2011, 01:45 PM

Lighting also plays a big role in "noticing noise" lar

Guess what ISO is this shot at?



This post has been edited by -kytz-: Jan 25 2011, 10:41 PM