+1.

me is 1 of the example. All my science stream stuff is in my brain's backyard now. Also, the private college courses might be much demanding than the Government school standard which is happening to me.

Socializing is indeed in important factor. Not to mention your children's childhood?
Good education requires proper nurturing from parents i would say.

Hmm, i wonder how the children would know about the traditions in their own culture or religion.

History is either a subject to get an extra A for good student or a subject to be hate by the other students.

i don't get it ? wat culture ? by the way, i believe those time we still got learn bout indian god and even the chinese festival and christian St Paul. i wonder if it's still in the text book?
And not forget that, culture can change in time. why do we still need to learn the culture of the past when the geography and event had changed so much. I know for one thing, students in art background learn about the past design and traditional design more than they learn about the date and event in the history book.

Even study culture so wat, just look at the current disrespectful people in the politics and NGO like Perkasa.

if u look at develop country, do u still think the scotland people still wearing the skirt and blow bag pipe? The only culture we got to learn now is Orange is Holland, White is England and celebrates the Opening Ceremony of World Cup.

I am sorry; I mean about the culture and tradition of their own family.

We do continue to adhere some of the indispensable culture. I cannot imagine what would happen if the parents say no ang pau will be given this CNY.

As the time past by, it does not mean that we can forget our own tradition or culture.

As for those people in politics and others, do remember that they don't need a Degree or a higher education as a requirement to be one of them. So a few members' behavior does not represent the organization as a whole.

I still see the Scottish over here promoting their skirts.

speaking of angpau... haha.. the basis of corruption starts here..
i remember as a kid , we will hide behind the closet or away from the giver, take a peek into the red ang pau and see how much in it...

than when we grew older, the tradition continue but this time we compare which auntie or uncle are more favorable ... the one that gives more money is the favourite place to visit..the one that gives too little every year, we don't feel like going...

the basis of greed starts in the chinese tradition and culture...a stigma that can't be change overtime .

What to do? It is the chinese culture. I wonder if malay kids would be like us when talking about the green packets.

i still prefer the christian culture of giving gifts under the christmas tree and nobody knows who contributed those presents. it was made to surprise the kids . Big packing does not mean it's a good Toy ... sometimes a small packet can be an iphone,,, who knows... hahah

I see. Depending on the person. I still prefer cash.

homeschooling is certainly a better way, provided you do it properly. You can start with http://www.khanacademy.org to teach your son/daughter basic mathematics, and some sciences and let them do the exercises there.

Public education is not education, it's a place for government to brainwash your children, torturing them mentally and shaping them into the way they want them to be - such as becoming docile, becoming passive, becoming aggressive etc. They lose their spirit and passions because each children has different disposition and their talents. The teachers in the public school are of low-quality one because of the education system which renders them so and another because of them not being passionate (majority of the teachers become teachers because it's a job that guarantees silver spoon in the mouth, especially in public school).

Imagine the public school as a kind of factory. You send your children which are raw to them, and they process it and the final product will be determined by their quality of processing. If you know the teachers are good and then it's reasonable that you send like, like the ancient times, the rich people they sent their children to private institution to learn from those wise and knowledgable teachers, they never sent their children to be taught by someone whose quality is unknown much like what parents always do now by sending them to public school ( they don't know the quality of the teachers, so you can imagine what kind of finished product your children your be). It is not hard to see why the majority of the teenagers today are drop-outs or someone who just take learning for granted. Did badly in spm, then get to study in some private college , studying some dismal courses which did not interest them at all or some end up dropped out during secondary, some stopped it after spm. This happens not because they are stupid or something, it's because their spirit is all hurted. Remember each children , upon growing up, will develope some interest in certain subjects and some will have their innate interest and talents. If these is not taken carefully, they might end up giving up themselves especially when they are repeatedly forced to study things they never like.

In public school, kids are bombarded with many subjects to study, homeworks, peer pressure, parental pressure ( some parents who do not have love will beat up their kid and reprimand them for doing badly in examination while it's actually the fault of the public education system ) and mental torturing. Nothing hurts the spirit more than telling the kids what to do and what not to do. Imagine getting such treatments for 13 years of time. and you can see the finished product from the factory of public school.

Are you a product of homeschooling or public schooling?

Wow, just looking into the Khan Academy syllabus itself we know we are all full of bullshit. this is even highlighted wat been taught. Imagine the public school one, even worse i guess.

I myself is now taking steps in learning Robert Kiyosaki and david Allen book. Just two of these books already enough to tired me off per day. Than there's Edward De Bono , Tony Buzan etc....

Just looking at those topic , nothing really matters to me unless u really love to be some specialist as astronaut or lawyers but u don't have to study biology or physics to become a lawyer or judge . and u don't need to study history to become an astronaut.

Regarding the HomeSchooling in Malaysia:

1. Can the children educatred in HomeSchooling register for PMR SPM STPM then enter to Local University? OR

2. Is the Home Schooling is just for those who want to take Olevel, Alevel and end up in over sea/foreign university?

Thanks...

From what I read in this thread, my conclusion is the question itself from TS is circular error. Lesson of life, chinese have this, we call it Social University "社会大学", Social has many relm, we start our kids from young, she goes to std one or even nursery, thats a small social world for her, she not only learn to pass exams, but an informal exam is how she survive in that small social world, how she make friends and survive manipulation, lies, backstabbing, betrayer and so on.

When she is in secondary or university the story remains, she now faces her enemy who are more mature, and so is she. This skill acquired will help her survive in the real world, corporated world or those in the lime light, is nice to see on the outside but darn ugly in the inside.

ok apart from the social university, we talk about education, I'm from sekolah kebangsaan, the teachers there mostly sucks, but 1 or 2 will be outstanding thats if you're lucky. but somehow we do survive, most schools do produce Doctors, engineers, CEOs, on the other side most schools also produce gangster heads, criminals and so on.

What I'm trying to say is this, we live in malaysia, we need to adopt or blend into the enviroment, how we survive will depend on the social skill we have. I'm not anti improvement, just that this thread is about home school or public school, home school you lack the social university.

i think one who came from sekolah kebangsaan will never know what home schooling is about. i think u r wrong here. homeschooling has better opportunity for the child to get social life outside than a barricaded school compound couple with some strict disciplining teachers and A Grade Prefects. The school is to segregate the A grades from the F grades . the lack of social engineering in public school had also caused many boys and girls looking at sex education and relationship as a taboo in culture rather than embracing and respect each other gender . The lack of understanding of social and gender have caused more men to be flirtatious and lie on relationship to reach the objective. Divorce cases are on the climb and single couples don't believing marriage anymore.

Home school does not mean that one is center around home but parents duty to sent the child out for activities and they have more time to expose the child to different people. i don't see students from std 4 mingling with std 6 or going down to the level of std 1. do you see this often in your sekolah kebangsaan? most students will stick to the same people in class or share the same ideology.

finally, life lesson like betrayal or manipulation does not need to be educate in school. until today, there are still many who can't even sense what is coming and when will they be cheated unless you are Cal Lightman the Professor in Lie To Me who studied micro expression. I think your whole perspective in chinese philosophy need to be reverse. if your cup is full of liquid, i can't teach u more new thing. the school system is filling up the cup only , they don't empty the cup , the same thing u thought school is good for your child.

This post has been edited by hackwire: Jan 14 2012, 08:38 AM

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Just to clarify... the education that you're talking about is for kids age 7 - 12 (Primary) and 13 - 17 (Secondary)?

Can you let us know the tuition name? And what is the student age range to attend this tuition?
I would be interested in sending my kids to this type of tuition when the kid reach 7 years old.

Last time, public schooling is good. The teacher have the heart to teach the student on the knowledge.
And parent allow teacher to disciplines the children if misbehave.

Now,
- it's a political game in the public schooling, yes/no?
- Teacher at times abuse their right to discipline the children
- Some powerful parent come bashing the teacher if teacher discipline the children