This topic is to discuss the way education is use here in malaysia. Are we sending the kids to school for nursery care in todays school or for their sake of educating them to live with their survival skill and knowledge to finance themself one day.

The current system fails me and by the time i discover it , we are reaching 40 something. some wake up early due to bad parenting or lost of parents just like the movie slumdog millionaire. And because the love of the parents , we keep doing the same thing wanting the best for them but we didn't know that we are sending them to hamster wheel . even doctors , lawyers wake up early to work and can't settle with their financial burden like Robert Kiyosaki had said. The real lesson is life lesson which are not taught in school thus everyone is emotionless .

I found homeschool method is better but we don't have time because of work.
So , are we sending our children for the govt and private to take care so that we can get on with our lives maintaining the nation production and economy?

This post has been edited by hackwire: Nov 29 2010, 07:03 AM

yeah u right. our school system never taught us to research or step back to see things with the third eye. i just read some of the Exam Questions for the primary and as usual one must tick A,B,C or D .

The way the answers in A,B,C and D is like surreal. It tricks u to circle the wrong answer from the right one by manipulating your mind ( eg. is it 4680 or 4068) . The examiner even use words to manipulate you away from circling the correct answer.

I even noticed that in the question there are the same answer but the examiner only allow to choose one answer. That's crazy stuff out there.

This post has been edited by hackwire: Nov 29 2010, 07:28 AM

we all are the victims to our national policies. And i will also agree to some of you that homeschool is not everybody reach. We all have to sacrifice for our child not only in term of Education.

There are other stuff that school can't teach like going Abroad to learn. The school should now change their system for children to reach specialization . For eg.. Why should a student learn chemistry, physics and Biology . What's the point of having 10 A'S in all the subjects and causing other talented students to fail.

I mean if a student want to be astronaut, is it relevant for him to learn chemistry ? A space station don't need a multi tasker u see. they prefer specialist in the field.
Does a financial expert requires any of the science subject to help him/her to get the job? Why Bill Gates a drop out and Stevejob quit college and still be a creative genius?

At this moment, whether it's chinese school or private school. they are all the same . The chinese school were not the previous one anymore as many of these chinese who sold the idea of chinese school were not a formal students from the old system but a BANANA from Sekolah Kebangsaan....And these guys don't even know a shit about the chinese philosophy system but they are running the show now.

This post has been edited by hackwire: Nov 29 2010, 04:00 PM

mind sharing whether did you apply through the jabatan pendidikan to get approval? i been thinking maybe sent my kid to school according to subject that interest him. those subject he is not interested such as history and chemistry, i will just ask permission from the school teacher to let him off to do other things.

Can the govt promise the young their future?

they keep saying without education you are going to end up in the slum but even got education also see many gone to the slum. And those who claimed chinese school is good, just look around you and you still see many poor hawker centers around.

what is education anyway?

yet many students prefer to go to college.

many students study hard to get A's to enter university but the seat is limited and in the end they have to pay to enter college . Curriculum system focus to enter university but many students end up in college learning something new again. in the college, they have to throw and reset everything again . Every thing they studied before whether its science or history were not use at all anymore. The dots simply not connected and this thing is repeating because of privatization.

i don't get it ? wat culture ? by the way, i believe those time we still got learn bout indian god and even the chinese festival and christian St Paul. i wonder if it's still in the text book?
And not forget that, culture can change in time. why do we still need to learn the culture of the past when the geography and event had changed so much. I know for one thing, students in art background learn about the past design and traditional design more than they learn about the date and event in the history book.

Even study culture so wat, just look at the current disrespectful people in the politics and NGO like Perkasa.

if u look at develop country, do u still think the scotland people still wearing the skirt and blow bag pipe? The only culture we got to learn now is Orange is Holland, White is England and celebrates the Opening Ceremony of World Cup.

speaking of angpau... haha.. the basis of corruption starts here..
i remember as a kid , we will hide behind the closet or away from the giver, take a peek into the red ang pau and see how much in it...

than when we grew older, the tradition continue but this time we compare which auntie or uncle are more favorable ... the one that gives more money is the favourite place to visit..the one that gives too little every year, we don't feel like going...

the basis of greed starts in the chinese tradition and culture...a stigma that can't be change overtime .

i still prefer the christian culture of giving gifts under the christmas tree and nobody knows who contributed those presents. it was made to surprise the kids . Big packing does not mean it's a good Toy ... sometimes a small packet can be an iphone,,, who knows... hahah

Wow, just looking into the Khan Academy syllabus itself we know we are all full of bullshit. this is even highlighted wat been taught. Imagine the public school one, even worse i guess.

I myself is now taking steps in learning Robert Kiyosaki and david Allen book. Just two of these books already enough to tired me off per day. Than there's Edward De Bono , Tony Buzan etc....

Just looking at those topic , nothing really matters to me unless u really love to be some specialist as astronaut or lawyers but u don't have to study biology or physics to become a lawyer or judge . and u don't need to study history to become an astronaut.

i think one who came from sekolah kebangsaan will never know what home schooling is about. i think u r wrong here. homeschooling has better opportunity for the child to get social life outside than a barricaded school compound couple with some strict disciplining teachers and A Grade Prefects. The school is to segregate the A grades from the F grades . the lack of social engineering in public school had also caused many boys and girls looking at sex education and relationship as a taboo in culture rather than embracing and respect each other gender . The lack of understanding of social and gender have caused more men to be flirtatious and lie on relationship to reach the objective. Divorce cases are on the climb and single couples don't believing marriage anymore.

Home school does not mean that one is center around home but parents duty to sent the child out for activities and they have more time to expose the child to different people. i don't see students from std 4 mingling with std 6 or going down to the level of std 1. do you see this often in your sekolah kebangsaan? most students will stick to the same people in class or share the same ideology.

finally, life lesson like betrayal or manipulation does not need to be educate in school. until today, there are still many who can't even sense what is coming and when will they be cheated unless you are Cal Lightman the Professor in Lie To Me who studied micro expression. I think your whole perspective in chinese philosophy need to be reverse. if your cup is full of liquid, i can't teach u more new thing. the school system is filling up the cup only , they don't empty the cup , the same thing u thought school is good for your child.

This post has been edited by hackwire: Jan 14 2012, 08:38 AM

does it matter? my latest finding is that many homeschool based were christian based now and im currently checking about unschooling. What it meant by unschooling is that the childrens will not be expose to nonsense subjects that had no purpose in the life direction. They were focus towards their interest rather than diversity. the reason is because you will not use them later in life. It's just like apps. You could download many apps into your device but you don't often use some of the apps every day. There are many ways that you could learn them later but if the child from young just love playing to be a doctor all the time, school direction is still the better way due to the lab and equipment but then again if the Teachers is boring and not interesting they may turn the tide and cause the child to lose interest due to their primitive teaching.

This post has been edited by hackwire: Aug 19 2013, 09:26 AM

Public school is always political from the day politicians were involved . From the supplying of books, milk , tender of canteen operators to the construction of the school to acquiring land deal. They were more interested in this stuff than making a play center cum education for children. It's just a factory producing few talent but more workers .

This post has been edited by hackwire: Aug 19 2013, 09:30 AM

And you got nothing to prove anything here or discuss about. Shame on you as a parent who don't even have the state of mind in the debate and not even have ground in the discussion. Who are you to determine your child to asylum of your choice.

This post has been edited by hackwire: Aug 20 2013, 12:01 AM

Have we all ever wonder why students in the public school system still go for Tuition every afternoon and even on Sunday? This is hardly seen in the US. im not sure about europe or UK or even other part of the country like Japan . Someone had said b4, they don't let their child go for tuition after school. They want their kids to free up and pay more attention in schools and not fall back on other crutches like tuition. The public school system is not meant for children to embrace failure. In fact, failing is look at in different perspective if the parents know how to accept the facts of life. Failing at early stage is better than failing in their work life. Failing is a punishment in public school system in the past (not sure about now) and parenting skills. Today, we all know failing is the root to success eventually. The more u fail, the better u learn at early stages.

Proven?? please.. don't even mentioned about father time. That time is that time and not all of them were successful like you imagine. You are saying that the choice is theirs to make and then you said I put my child as a white mouse. I think you are hypocrites or having dementia a bit because in the news, parents were facing frustration with the public education systems that kept changing as well from year to year. Aren't you responsible as well in putting your children in the cartwheel ? Unless you didn't read the news about English language been scraped off and the introduction of religious teaching as well. Are you stuck somewhere and still reading some old news because i think you are just making things up . Maybe you didn't read much about how people like Steve Jobs and bill Gates started from their garage and flop out from University before they become an instant millionaire. Anyway, I think no point to argue with big White mouse here. I will let others to judge now.