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National Team Malaysian Football, AFF Suzuki Cup next!

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post Dec 29 2006, 09:33 AM

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This is why most of teams (even our national team) using foreign coaches fails :

Konflik dalam NS NAZA

What's the point of hiring foreign coaches if U dun wanna listen to them ? I tell U one of the root causes of Malaysian football failure is the players are too manja. Training lebih sikit, complain to manager. Coach tengking sikit, complain to Menteri Besar. How to improve ? Anybody saw TV3 8 o'clock news yesterday ? Our current gymnastic coach is from China. He said, what Malaysian gymnastic team is doing now is only 50% of what the Chinese team is doing, & yet they always complain. For our team to succeed at international level he said, our commitment must be double of what we give now, commitment to training, parents commitment, etc.

There was a documentary in Discovery couple of months back, in Inside China I think. It showed the journey of a kid wanting to get a place in China's Olympic gymnastic team. Our kids here, baru menang satu medal Sukma, want to be treated like superstar edi. Attitude....

It's not just football, it's sports in general. How does locals like Nicol David, Karamjit Singh can become World Champion in sports dominated by Europeans ? Commitment, professionalism, attitude. That's what keep U going even if there's no support from anybody, especially govt (read: Karamjit Singh).

About MyTeam, good thing they've been winning games. But this very team that everybody said is going to revive Malaysian football, is managed by a very outspoken politician (which many said is another cause why our sports is so bad) : Mr Khairy Jamaludin. Very anxious to see how this team will fare this season. Bojan is a good coach I think, if the players can follow his instructions, maybe they can fare well enuf.
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post Dec 29 2006, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(tenno @ Dec 29 2006, 09:33 AM)
This is why most of teams (even our national team) using foreign coaches fails :

Konflik dalam NS NAZA

What's the point of hiring foreign coaches if U dun wanna listen to them ? I tell U one of the root causes of Malaysian football failure is the players are too manja. Training lebih sikit, complain to manager. Coach tengking sikit, complain to Menteri Besar. How to improve ? Anybody saw TV3 8 o'clock news yesterday ? Our current gymnastic coach is from China. He said, what Malaysian gymnastic team is doing now is only 50% of what the Chinese team is doing, & yet they always complain. For our team to succeed at international level he said, our commitment must be double of what we give now, commitment to training, parents commitment, etc.

There was a documentary in Discovery couple of months back, in Inside China I think. It showed the journey of a kid wanting to get a place in China's Olympic gymnastic team. Our kids here, baru menang satu medal Sukma, want to be treated like superstar edi. Attitude....

It's not just football, it's sports in general. How does locals like Nicol David, Karamjit Singh can become World Champion in sports dominated by Europeans ? Commitment, professionalism, attitude. That's what keep U going even if there's no support from anybody, especially govt (read: Karamjit Singh).

About MyTeam, good thing they've been winning games. But this very team that everybody said is going to revive Malaysian football, is managed by a very outspoken politician (which many said is another cause why our sports is so bad) : Mr Khairy Jamaludin. Very anxious to see how this team will fare this season. Bojan is a good coach I think, if the players can follow his instructions, maybe they can fare well enuf.
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i totally agree. i also agree with nicol david for her reason on why she prefer to train at oversea. for the football case in malaysia, i think the least standard for us is to be no.2 if not no.1 at south east asia level. we even lose to s'spore and indonesia. dunno when we gonna lost to the philipine's and myanmar or maybe loas. c'mon la....

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post Dec 29 2006, 08:26 PM


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i agree too wif oversea tarinning... they are more displine, tight and tough.. i.e soccer in europe, they train like hell in their area to get better in their skill... must be good, not good coach not afraid to leave the player side and choose another player... eventhough the player left is star...

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post Dec 29 2006, 09:34 PM

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too much money spent on certain sports but still no improvement. if they cant play well, dont pay their wages.
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post Dec 30 2006, 12:03 AM

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its the mentality since school days...

wakil sekolah only, they ego straight already....
walk, talk and act like superstars....
ask them for their grades, mostly fail
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post Dec 30 2006, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(nizamhameed @ Dec 29 2006, 08:26 PM)
i agree too wif oversea tarinning... they are more displine, tight and tough.. i.e soccer in europe, they train like hell in their area to get better in their skill... must be good, not good coach not afraid to leave the player side and choose another player...  eventhough the player left is star...
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its been awhile since we last heard of our Titus Anthony who train at France. anybody know what the status he is rite now?? i hope that there will b more footballer like him at malaysia who really committed to do well. our previous footballer sent (by FAM) to train at oversea all flunk. they dont even make it to our national team nowadays. sad.gif i agree that we dont need quick fix like Japan or Spore who hav foriegn player at their national team. but the standard set our own national team is a sight for sore eye. our own FAM didnt even expect our team can make it to the quarter final at the recent Asia game at Doha. no expectation mean no pressure for our player to perform well. need to say more.
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post Dec 30 2006, 12:05 PM

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I heard that the teams in Malaysian League is just training from 8.00 am to 11.00 am.

Do you think this is enough??

The coach should see that the player individual skill is still very weak..their ball passing and shooting is BAD.

I dont know how can I help them lol....cos I really want to see our team reach the Final of Asian Cup

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post Dec 30 2006, 02:06 PM

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final of the AC .

yeah right . HAHAHAHAHA .
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post Dec 31 2006, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(whatsupbro @ Dec 30 2006, 12:05 PM)
I heard that the teams in Malaysian League is just training from 8.00 am to 11.00 am.

Do you think this is enough??

The coach should see that the player individual skill is still very weak..their ball passing and shooting is BAD.

I dont know how can I help them lol....cos I really want to see our team reach the Final of Asian Cup
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You'd start to melt if you train from 11am onwards in Malaysian weather. They should however continue training in the evening.
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post Dec 31 2006, 03:10 AM

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forget malaysian football , consign it to the toilet best thing !
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post Dec 31 2006, 07:45 AM

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if any of you have been to the stadium recently to watch them play,
seriously its hilarious and the pace of the game is so slow that you want to fall asleep

i am serious...
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post Dec 31 2006, 12:53 PM

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Oh I believe you , don't worry about that .

shame RTM won't show some of the glory years of MY football , give us something to cheers about .
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post Dec 31 2006, 01:02 PM

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maybe TV3 will show those game played by MY Team. hehehe... i heard they have good result so far....
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post Dec 31 2006, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(whatsupbro @ Dec 30 2006, 12:05 PM)
I heard that the teams in Malaysian League is just training from 8.00 am to 11.00 am.

Do you think this is enough??

The coach should see that the player individual skill is still very weak..their ball passing and shooting is BAD.

I dont know how can I help them lol....cos I really want to see our team reach the Final of Asian Cup
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I dun think it's 8.00 am, more like 8.00 pm. Most Super League teams train at nite, starting at 8.00 right up to 10.30 or 11.00. Most teams dun have separate sessions for fitness, they just cram everything into the 2-3 hr session (fitness, tactics, technique, etc). Some teams do assign their players to the gym in the afternoons though.

The teams expect the players to do their own fitness regime, but we're not like pros in Europe, where sometime they can engage their own personal fitness coach. In Malaysia, the general mentality is, if the coach are not there, then we dun have to train, or just train lightly. That is why when very committed foreign coach takes over, the players feel the pressure to train (!), & after a while, they'll revolt, & ask the management to send the foreign coach home, coz his style doesn't suit the local style of play. The smart management team listen to the players & send the coach home.

When I was cycling I had a Russian coach. The coach asked us to eat oatmeal for breakfast coz he said that it's more nutritious & can keep us fueled for at least 2-3 hrs. Before that with the local coach, we used to eat nasi lemak & roti canai, & after breakfast we're gonna need another 30 mins to go to the toilet, & we go out at around 7.30. If we take oatmeal for breakfast, we dun need to go to the toilet (U dun eat oatmeal with kari & sambal, do U ?) & we can go out at least 30 mins earlier & avoid the traffic.

In the end we stuck with the Russian coach & went on to win the Sukma 1996 cycling event, winning 8 out of 10 gold medals on offer.
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post Dec 31 2006, 07:52 PM

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i agree with tenno. last time when i play a game at FAS ( near Kelana jaya), i saw a few of our national player sitting there watching the game with rokok in thier hand. and by their look i know they are just finish from training. i cant believe what i saw that night but too bad it is true.
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QUOTE(tenno @ Dec 29 2006, 09:33 AM)
This is why most of teams (even our national team) using foreign coaches fails :

Konflik dalam NS NAZA

What's the point of hiring foreign coaches if U dun wanna listen to them ? I tell U one of the root causes of Malaysian football failure is the players are too manja. Training lebih sikit, complain to manager. Coach tengking sikit, complain to Menteri Besar. How to improve ? Anybody saw TV3 8 o'clock news yesterday ? Our current gymnastic coach is from China. He said, what Malaysian gymnastic team is doing now is only 50% of what the Chinese team is doing, & yet they always complain. For our team to succeed at international level he said, our commitment must be double of what we give now, commitment to training, parents commitment, etc.

There was a documentary in Discovery couple of months back, in Inside China I think. It showed the journey of a kid wanting to get a place in China's Olympic gymnastic team. Our kids here, baru menang satu medal Sukma, want to be treated like superstar edi. Attitude....

It's not just football, it's sports in general. How does locals like Nicol David, Karamjit Singh can become World Champion in sports dominated by Europeans ? Commitment, professionalism, attitude. That's what keep U going even if there's no support from anybody, especially govt (read: Karamjit Singh).

About MyTeam, good thing they've been winning games. But this very team that everybody said is going to revive Malaysian football, is managed by a very outspoken politician (which many said is another cause why our sports is so bad) : Mr Khairy Jamaludin. Very anxious to see how this team will fare this season. Bojan is a good coach I think, if the players can follow his instructions, maybe they can fare well enuf.
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I dont wanna reply for your comments... I just wanna say that NS Naza players and fans are not happy wif Hatem as well as the management team...


What Hatem successful record in Malaysian football?
Malaysian's Youth Team 97 and Olympic 2000 failure..... and yet there are stupid people in Malaysian football who sacks a succesful coach wif a reason he has two jobs (and now he's coaching other team?).... and throw out the most prolific striker of team becoz he wants a pay-rise (and the new coach got that type of salary)... and keep the budget at the same rate as the last year eventhough the sponsor has doubled it? You tell me why there is conflict in the team.... whistling.gif

P/S: Dont just blame on the players... Malaysian football people are sucks.... No wonder we never had a team who is consistence enough.... shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(matty @ Dec 31 2006, 01:02 PM)
maybe TV3 will show those game played by MY Team. hehehe... i heard they have good result so far....
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nah lah .

I talking 70s/80s football not this load of shiet .
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post Jan 6 2007, 09:38 PM

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Aiks ? Since when Malaysian team pakai Nike ? I thought they have deal with Adidas for like... forever...
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