Who are you referrring to?

most of the time when we played even u21 from korea 80% confirm our u23 will lost...so if they can beat u21 korea,its still an improvement right?...i also hate FAM like hell but lets not victimised our players...if we dont support them,who will?...its not the most outstanding performance,but still its a start...even korea which was used to lagged behind us,start somewhere...all they need is support...and we as a supporter,its our job to support the national team...hate it when they played badly...but come on....nobody cant deny they played a good game that evening..so at least they deserved some credit!

i support our natinal team but SAY NO TO FAM, we going down starting The Sultan take care the organization in 80`, now still didn't realize the damages that he done

Selangor - Champions of 2010 Malaysian Super League



This post has been edited by AKace: Aug 1 2010, 07:37 PM

i thought Kelantan is the more consistent team between the two

anyway,congrats to them

and congrats to my state for geing in super league next season

May I ask, what is about to start here? The start of a new era for our football, or the start of another disappointing spell for the next 2 years (and finally the team will get abandoned totally by FAM)?

I understand that the result again Korea was a good one for our boys. Maybe they deserve praise too. But here's the thing, why should we bother praising them, when we know what will happen in the future? We had several promising batch of young players earlier this decade, FAM spent like a shitload of money for their improvement, but as we all can see, it was proven as total false dawn! This is what Duke Red tried to point out. Its simple. Most Malaysians do not just want good results, they demand class as well. 'Class' can give the fans something to hang onto and keep believing in the team. Not the 'brilliant' results. They are in fact tired of those hyped result.

I'm still here so what are you going to do about it?

Prove you at least have half a brain and articulate your opinion on the matter and show that you aren't just some random half wit retard with a liking for caps lock. The fact that you can call be a glory hunter for supporting a team that hasn't won the Premiership for 20 years indicates that you don't fully understand what I've been saying in my earlier posts.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: Aug 2 2010, 02:05 PM

after this superb result, it means malaysia belongs to the last 16 of world cup finalists as well.

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Added on August 2, 2010, 9:49 amwell said !!!

even last year when lost 2-3 to manchester united in 1st match, FAM also said the squad is improving and can play football ...

This post has been edited by Ken: Aug 2 2010, 09:49 AM

Is right. If the team keeps getting this kind of results, the fans will return on their own and there won't be a need to ask or coerce people into the stadiums anymore.

In my course of work, I get to meet and speak to people in the local football fraternity every now and then. Just the other day I met with the brother of one of a current manager of a team. Their interest is in youth development and he has said that up to U-14 level, we have players more talented than even the Koreans but after that, the Koreans have an edge because while we play maybe 40-60 competitive matches, the Koreans play up to 400 competitive games by the time their kids reach 18 years of age. You can teach a kid all you want but you need to expose him to competitive matches just as you do, kids in your clubs youth team. It's really that simple. It's why I keep saying that our national side needs to play higher level games even if it means we'll get beat.

Some of us see things from a long term perspective but obviously many others don't. My opinions are based on conversations with people familiar with local football. From what I've heard, Kelantan is the club of the future in the country. They have the most passionate fans and they also have vision that stretches beyond local shores. They also have plans to develop long term youth development programmes unlike the other states. Give it another 4-5 season and we'll see some results I'm sure.

Something that really give the Koreans and Japanese the edge over us. They nurture their youngsters from the early stages, and that has build their strength both mentally and physically.

About getting more games for NT, well, I'd rather spent the money on facilities on youth development. Building right from the root. Has FAM tried to bring back Mr. Lim to be their advisor?

Its good to organize matches for NT, but please, no longer money-sucking project like their 'football stint' in Slovakia. I think just by inviting big teams to play in KL is already good enough.

Exposure is also a key ingredient of development. I liken it to the days I was a student in Australia. There is a great deal of emphasis on exposing students to the real world. We are given assignments and are tasked with contacting and liaising with companies to get information and understand the business they are in. We don't sit behind a desk trying to memorise textbook material like we do here. Similarly, our youth players need to be exposed to players from other countries and different styles of play. From what I've been made to understand, it isn't about ability, it's about playing competitive games consistently. If you've tuned into ASTRO of late, you'll notice a programme featuring a junior league. I actually met with the owners of the league recently to get their perspective.

Mr Lim. Well I think it says a lot when no one had even heard of his achievement until recently. Why not? I'll leave that up to you to figure out. All I know is that with the crap that goes on behind closed doors in our local football scene, I don't see why he'd give up his life there even if he were to be asked.

Same goes with the youths of all leading football teams, Asia & Europe. By 18, the kids would have had 10 years of competitive football under their belt.
Just to share, here's an article on how Ajax develops it football stars.

Yes, I've already watched the programme several times. Quite a big event I may say. What concern me is, where do the kids go from there? I just afraid that the kids were only thinking it as a hobby, rather than being dead serious about it. Y'know, even parents may brainwash them that football as a profession is bad.

Well unless there were several scouts from European clubs present during the tournament...

Well, I too can't see why Mr. Lim should ever leave his Germany adventure to get involve into all these craps here

From what I can recall, a select few get sent overseas for trials with clubs. It's likely to be their only chance given the level of favouratism practiced here.

I'm actually glad that Titus chose not to return. Good on him. Very unlike the useless bunch of idiots including Akmal Rizal who got attached to French clubs but decided that the weather and food was not to their liking. What a waste of money. They should reserve it for players who have more heart, desire and ambition.

The way they are throwing Datukships around, you would have thought that a Malaysian who has made a mark in one of the biggest football clubs in the world, and has helped developed some of the most promising prospects in world football would be deserving but no, apparently Sharukh Khan has contributed more to our country. Bunch of idiots.

Titus also FAIL. i hear no more news from him. so, i can assume he is also a FAILURE.

cannot blame Akmal Rizal alone. blame FAM also. they send players just to increase their popularity but they don't ask whether the players want or not.

Well next to no one knew that Lim Teong Kim was attached to Bayern Munich either. My point however is that at least Titus has desire and ambition. He is now still only 22 and plying his trade in Lique 3 in France which is arguably still of higher quality than our Super League. His goal is to play in Ligue 1, particularly for PSG. He may or may not achieve his goal but at the very least, he has ambition. He was called up to the national side before but could not make it due to complications in France. In a another couple of years we may yet see the first Malaysian to make an appearance for a Ligue 1 side.

i hope his dream will be come true

complications??? bollocks to that! he played for div 3 club, not a div 1 club. he just besar kepala only la

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This post has been edited by AKace: Aug 3 2010, 11:06 PM

Is that a fact or another one of your assumptions? He had issues with the French immigration.

Yes he's playing for a Ligue 3 side but once again you are missing the point which seems to be a rather common occurance. Fact is that unlike the past idiots they've send overseas, Titus has chosen to try to make it in the 'outside' world instead of being content with being a star in Selangor or whatever. If we really want to 'mengharumkan nama negara' or whatever, more Malaysian players should follow his example. What is the point in being attached to a German or French side only to want to come back to play for teams who struggle against Geylang United? Even Singapore has had an international export in Fandi Ahmad.

Titus was chosen by Le Harve's football academy unlike some other blokes the FAM sent over. He was captain of Villenoy's U-18 side and once finished as top scorer with 16 goals playing from the wing. How many Malaysian footballers have achieved even that? I've no doubt that he'll continue to develop and won't be the finished article until he's 25-26 by which time he'll be in his prime. I'm hoping that he'll one day realise his dream of playing for PSG. In stark contrast look at someone like Akmal Rizal who trained with Strasbourg. He to me was the most talented Malaysian forward since Dollah Salleh but instead of choosing to continue to train and play overseas where he could have reached his full potential, he chose instead to return to play for a local club, following local habits. Heck, we don't even have a proper diet regiment to begin with! No wonder he looks overweight.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: Aug 4 2010, 02:13 PM