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post Aug 26 2011, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Aug 26 2011, 11:18 AM)
accually i was pointing out....what if Hybrid cars with petrol tank EMPTY.....how can it run?? i knw Diesel as such model like 320d, CDi version of Merc are ...yes, better in FC....but contribute to environmental friendly, i still say Hybrid way to go...
the reason y i said PRIUS is better in term of FC, coz it only consume petrol from 'stop movement of the car to 50km/h....' beyond that ald uses electricity...while diesel powered vehicles still using diesel all the way...as like forever....yes, in term of petrol n diesel if fully utilized, diesel is better(and cheaper too, compare RM1.80 Diesel with RM1.90 RON95-lowest standard grade petrol)....so, if in term of long run...i would say PRIUS had better FC compare with any Diesel models...like in HW Cruise....how much you've to pay per trip from Malaysia-Thai(Perlis) to Malaysia-Singapore border(Johor) using PRIUS and TDCI/CDi/BMW Diesel powered series??
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u dont quite get the idea how hybrid car works dont you?
its more like the other way round actually
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based on the bolded part... for how long can the battery last if u are driving above 50 km/h?
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ford TDCI one full tank (50-55L) can get an average of 1000 km +- region
320d full tank can get you also close to 950 km +- per tank...
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post Aug 26 2011, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Aug 26 2011, 11:41 AM)
last more than 10 yrs without changing....claimed by americans n europeans..
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ok let me rephrase it..

for how long can the battery power last if u are driving above 50 km/h just on electricity?
understand my question now?

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post Sep 5 2011, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(-cmi- @ Sep 5 2011, 12:21 PM)
You sure? You ask victim yourself?
I'm sure you just make your assumption
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no
because forte got traction control.... so forte will not crash or get into any accident ever...
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post Sep 5 2011, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Sep 5 2011, 12:49 PM)
car got traction control or not, sure crash....y lambo n BMW crash?? both of 'em got traction control ma...
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i remember someone mentioned that with traction control you will not get into accident ever...
so i am just relaying again what that person say...
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post Sep 6 2011, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Sep 6 2011, 12:06 AM)
xtra features....can b as much as Forte 2.0?? tell u the truth...even Forte 2.0 FC n power can outrun Inspira...maybe on par...or maybe further..
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i would not bet on the forte 2.0 power output actually
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displacement is big on paper only
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post Sep 6 2011, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Sep 6 2011, 12:38 AM)
u didn't mentioned came with stock or not either....u can ask 'em for a drag race...u knw forte club fb page rite??
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erm forte 2.0 got eaten by the lancer 2.0, sad to say the heavier lancer won....
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post Sep 6 2011, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(ferrari38 @ Sep 6 2011, 10:41 PM)
forte 2.0 lost to lancer 2.0?
really bo hmm.gif

by looking at the Forte & Inspira fact sheet, Forte 2.0 claimed the 0-100 is 9.8s and inspira is 10.5s.

clear enough to say that pick up inspira is already loose to forte, mid to high end lagi no need to mention more liao la whistling.gif

btw, the overall interior quality of inspira is much more cheapskate than forte, the sound of door close is not as solid as forte, look at the dashboard...so boring...look at the radio and power window switch... doh.gif almost same like wira laugh.gif

moreover, i hate the CVT gearbox, so laggy when driving at city or pick up, it just only powerful when u floor it and hold the max output of torq but end up with high FC wink.gif

still love the conventional auto gearbox, like DSG wub.gif but forte 6 speed also not bad, silky smooth and responsive and wisely spread of torq at all range of speed thumbup.gif

Vote to FORTE !!!:peace: 
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please la....
this is a well known secret drag between both the club members la... and they are having it again soon... real soon...

figure on paper is nothing... it is bias towards selling point... sales person can use it to sell...
125HP on a 1.6 but when being driven hard, it dont feel like it has 125HP.. it felt much lesser than that (4-spd or 6-spd even)
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actually if the inspira has other badge than proton, trust me ppl will worship it..
because at the end of the day its the brand that counts...

if lets say this Forte is from toyota or honda, i can tell u upfront that it will be worshiped like mad..
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even the 2.0 forte is nothing much to shout about when it comes to power wise...
a 1.6 non-vvt engine with manual tranny can easily keep up with a 2.0 forte....

spec wise... at RM 100k region... no car can come close to what the forte 2.0 has on its list...
there is only one choice at that price bracket...

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post Sep 7 2011, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Sep 6 2011, 10:53 PM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Gamma_engine

You rather trust a blog than Wikipedia?

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dude... wikipedia is not always "the truth"
u should know right?

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post Sep 7 2011, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Sep 7 2011, 01:28 AM)
we nv said Forte handling bad....if Forte's handling system for 2.0, yes is good, coz under MDPS....even Civic n Altis oso lose to Inspira lo....the cars that can win are : FD2R n Ford Focus....gd luck Inspira, go vs both those cars....i bet 99.9% it lose to savvy n persona n gen2 n satria neo oso...handling perhaps might be 'bad' in ur case....but car still very stable...even my 1.6 @ 182km/h oso stable...car no wooble2....


Added on September 7, 2011, 1:35 am
1. 1.6 under 17'' rims, while 1.8 under 15/16'' rims....whose is lighter?? think la....try change to 15'' rims n c.....i bet 100% u can feel the true power of 1.6 engine.....is juz same theory as current Proton Exora, big body, small engine....
2. u can't compare the non-vvt engine with 2.0 engine of Forte....like u r comparing Ferrari to Kancil.....
think la.....1 is pure performance engine, another is economical....let me ask u la...B16A/B or 4AGE series engine or SR16DE engine....do their FC can b as gd as Forte 2.0's engine??? think la.....if u wan compare like dat....as well i get RX7/8 1.3 engine to tapao ur 1.6 engine.....wan??
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dude....
MDPS (Power steering) wont help nuts in handling la....

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u can even bring that out

really have to give u this
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btw non-vvt engine dont meant performance
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it basically meant the engine belongs to the old tech category
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do u know that a b16a/b16b engine can be very economical if u do not engage vtec at all?
i think u seriously need to look at a bigger picture la...

i have a good friend who used to have a b16 engine and without v-tec on, his fuel economy can be say quite good...
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post Sep 7 2011, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(XionCity @ Sep 7 2011, 11:00 AM)
I was refering to the system of MDPS...not the handling ....

yea....fuel economy might be QUITE good, but nt as good as 'FE' series of Toyota engine or any economical engine in it's class....'GE', 'B series', 'F series' are more to performance....even without VTEC or it's VVT tech, the engine block n design is more for performance type...try compare 16V 4AGE n 16V 4AFE....u shud knw the different, y 4AFE is still 1 of the best economical engine up to now....i had fren uses 4AGE 20V Blacktop stock 6MT vs my old 4AFE 16V 5MT.....cant even b close when comes to FC....
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if u wan to compare FC like this... u try compare to a diesel la...
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i am taking the b-series FC in relative comparison to your much newer 1.6 and 2.0 engine...
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the only thing that the b-series will lose out is emission (as it is build and designed in the 90s with the 90s regulation)...
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we nv said Forte handling bad....if Forte's handling system for 2.0, yes is good, coz under MDPS....even Civic n Altis oso lose to Inspira lo....the cars that can win are : FD2R n Ford Focus....gd luck Inspira, go vs both those cars....i bet 99.9% it lose to savvy n persona n gen2 n satria neo oso...handling perhaps might be 'bad' in ur case....but car still very stable...even my 1.6 @ 182km/h oso stable...car no wooble2...

this is what u have mentioned....
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post Sep 7 2011, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Sep 7 2011, 07:02 PM)
Who the FUCUK troll-ed this shit in??

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IP Address -> 175.145.121.52
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Forte

Just because it isn't interlinked, doesnt mean its not used in the Forte doh.gif

and here

http://www.nazakia.com.my/sedans/forte-6-s.../specifications
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hahahaha
see wiki kena troll

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post Sep 8 2011, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 8 2011, 08:42 AM)
Well to be fair to Forte owners, the lack of interest in buying a 1 yr old 2nd hand car could also be due to fear. Most of the ppl who sell their cars within the first 3 yrs do so because of accidents. That fear is increased especially if its being sold by 2nd hand car dealers instead of direct owners. We will have a better understanding of the Forte resale value once we've passed the 4 year mark since the launch when there are more 2nd hand units up for sale.

Yes the Jap's surely have better resale value. My 2003 Toyota Vios is still going for about RM 42K (original price was RM 74K+) despite being 8 years old.  thumbup.gif
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depends...
some seller advertise low price is because they want to get rid of the car fast...

brand new mazda 3 MPS = RM 179 OTR
there is this 1 seller selling off his 1 month old Mazda 3 MPS at RM 145K OTR...

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he got rid of the car within 1 month
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post Sep 8 2011, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(Taipan052 @ Sep 8 2011, 09:32 AM)
hmmmmm.. 179 - 145 = 34K difference..

might be the forte owner should reduce 34K also to attract buyers.. 82K - 34K = 48K OTR


Added on September 8, 2011, 9:34 am

errr.. no off topic la.. later scared vakasyun.. btw your vios 2nd value really damn good..
got any info on new vios? i mean the 1st batch dugong look alike one.
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i am saying SOME sellers might sell at a lower price because they want to get rid of it fast
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QUOTE(geforce88 @ Sep 8 2011, 09:49 AM)
any reason given? very curious  biggrin.gif
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parents fucuk him for buying a car instead of an MPV..
now he got an estima already and my friend brought the MPS from him
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btw the seller is a pilot
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post Sep 8 2011, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Sep 8 2011, 10:44 AM)
oh that car sold dy? damn, its a bargain, silver mps
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yes....
~1k km only....

very much a bargain... the new owner is another friend of mine
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post Sep 8 2011, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(overfloe @ Sep 8 2011, 01:05 PM)
fuyoh.. very good buy lah the mps.. assuming the car is in mint condition.. if the car is sold thru dealer, im sure dealer already marked up.. so owner probably sold the car less than advertised..
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the car is in mint condition...
buyer direct to seller
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back to topic please

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