Interesting Campro got a 'boost' in 4.1k rpm, meanwhile Vios got boost in 5.7k rpm.

I'm very interested in power/torque graphs. Probably should pinned a thread for collection of stock cars' power/torque graph.

The purpose of dyno is to see the engine performance right? That can only be done by choosing 1:1 ratio. Else, we don't know whether its really the engine 'power' since the GB kept changing 'gears' to optimize the performance. Just like dyno a MT car with 1st gear, the torque will be higher than dyno in 3rd gear right

Maybe the curve will still be the same I wonder. Why not share with us. Interested to know.

My theory for CVT, let say the engine got torque dip like campro, it can automatically shift down to give a flatter torque curve right?.

who told u forte no better than lancer? in terms of what?
Clearly explain.

lol..

this thread if still exist next year still the same one.. people look at brand not the features.

come forte with 6 speed gb, paddle shift, bluetooth connectivity, LED emitting side mirror also no use one ler.

if you like you buy, just don't follow brand blindly. pay brand badge got tin kosong car is not a good for us in long run. else they still sell tin kosong car without any up to date features.

if you don't like brand other than japs is also ok. but please do a favour la. pressure the manufacturer to include latest tech in their model lineup. say la why korean can why japanese cannot? don't support brand blindly please

hah...go check again.....Forte and Cruze also have...and Forte is the 1st to introduced in sub 100k

In terms of speed which one is faster FORTE2.0 or INSPIRA2.0

there will be no prediction on resale value....only will know when the time comes....
another thing is, that proton is probably year 2004 or above....that's y so high...
spectra might be in year 2002...same goes with aveo
depend on wat year, and dun follow the price sold by people or 2nd hand shop.
if u really wanna know abt resale value, try ask them, how much would they take in for those models(buy directly from buyer's price)
not selling price....coz, they can put wateva price they wan....
and also, judge on the quality of the car, whether it needed alot of maintenance or repairs, or juz buy and use without much maintenance or repairs
there are alot of things to look into, for resale value....u can't expect a VIOS 05 sells at RM5xk if needed repair alot, right?? the value of the car will drop too(become price like no resale value)....
paint job, anti-rust, check for accident free cars, also does concern in resale value....if that car like VIOS 05 got accident 1 or 2 times, the resale value will drop too....

so, in my last words, u can't judge resale value price base on wat u see in 2nd hand car shop....there are ALOT of things 2 consider b4 selling price came out.....

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Added on January 3, 2011, 1:19 am
Inspira got 4 spd only.....yet, Forte this year ald got 6 speed...
advantages of conventional autogearbox, u can feel the acceleration power of it, while disadvantage of it is, u feels jerkiness when changing gears(not more modern CAGB anymore)
advantages of CVT autogearbox, u can feel smooth acceleration of the gears without feeling any jerks while changing gears, while disadvantage of it is, not as powerful as CAGB...
advantages of DCG autogearbox, uses in Fiesta, VW and audi, u can feel the advantages of both CAGB and CVTAGB, disadvantage of it is maintenance and cost, way HIGHER than CVTAGB and CAGB....
Now modern cars with 1.6 above ald had sports mode(a.k.a. tiptronic, shiftronic, sport mode) juz only Fiesta dun hv....that's 1 of the disadvantages of Fiesta....

that's old type of conventional agb....new 1 can't feel jerkiness ald....

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Added on January 3, 2011, 1:18 pmif u all think inspira is great, then y police chooses Forte 2.0 as police cars??

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1608904/+1980
page100

U malaysian or what? Don't u know how all these deals work out?.........

inspira much more high tech than forte...end of story
forte interior made of gold?

ermm what featureS r better?

Can anyone provide me a specific link for the newest 2011 forte.

but u can judge on the quality by looking at it....yet, that car is 100% not malaysian made quality, is Italy made....definitely better than cheaplak proton local quality

GET REAL!!

the problem is i had 2 ask u....the same question...how old r u??
do u think EMAS manufactured from Malaysia??? do u think it uses Local items?? If got, also won't use cheaplak things la....
think of it, any1 will interested in EMAS if uses cheaplak things like current protons?? it's in Italy, and do u think they will accept that??
they will juz say, another chepalang car...but y italian loves it?? y EMAS so many ppl love it? i dun think is bcoz of pure design and technology.
oh come on la....that's a concept car, so muz at least hv very good export quality things la.....

u try 2 look at local Wira and exported Wira.....are the quality the same?? if u say same, i would say u're an idiot!!
my fren's grandpa owned an exported version Wira, 1.6 version 1...until now, that car got no quality issue, not even rusted roof!!

i m not mean of judging by the look.....but plz, common sense la....who wans using cheaplak items 2 export??
judge by petrol, Petronas sells RON99, RON 1xx to other countries, u knw?? very good quality, but in Malaysia, they oni use RON92,95 and 97 only....

that's y Forte new facelift can't use the new GDI engine....y? bcoz of our petrol quality, even with current petrol quality, for current Forte also hv problems...
same goes 2 Hyundai's new Avante, also can't use the new GDI engine

Errr just because it's designed by Italdesign-Giugiaro, doesn't mean it will be manufactured in Italy.

somehow xioncity's posting is becoming more and more idiotic these days 

I thought XionCity became inactive before I clicked the last page.

I was so wrong.

for me, both cars hv their own advantages and disadvantages...
there are no clear winners at all...if compare to 2011 1.6SX(Forte) and 2011 1.8AT(Inspira)....both assuming 6spd and conventional GB(Except premium 2.0 Inspira using CVT, stated in proton edar website), while Inspira wins at higher and more powerful engine, 1.8, yet Forte loses out at 1.6 economical engine, yet Forte wins out at safety functions a.k.a. gadget(some useful, some not useful). If compare for Style and looks, every1 had their own eyes to see and judge them themselves...If compare 2.0SX(Forte) with 2.0Premium(Inspira), Forte loses out in CVT Gearbox, while wins Inspira by higher horsepower by abit, and wins at better overall safety functions than Inspira. while Inspira wins over Forte using CVT Gearbox, and Lotus slightly tuned Handling and suspension setting, and using smaller rims than Forte(15'' vs 17''),  thus acceleration better.

There's no win-win senario between these 2 cars. BUT...they sure can win over Altis, Lancer EX/GT and Civic, same goes with Vios and City in term of pricing ..

CVT WITH INVECS-III

The CVT (Continuously Variable Transmission) is an automatic transmission that is quiet, efficient and allows for smoother gear changes. It eliminates the harshness and power lag of traditional gear changes. *Applicable only to the premium variant.                   

and *SPORT MODE WITH PADDLE SHIFT

The sport mode features a 6-step shift control that delivers a smoother and relaxing drive.
*Applicable only to the premium variant.
i confuse leh..

http://www.proton-edar.com.my/inspira-perf...nce-safety.aspx
source....

Juz got a review on Inspira juz now, from a Ford salesman....
Acually, i am considering Fiesta too...(since Fiesta 1.6 had better climbing hill power than Forte SX, due to it's function-Hill Climb Assist, if i not mistaken)....
this is wat he told me :

Few mths ago, he organized a convoy of 30 Fiestas up Genting slopes...there are 30 Fiestas 1.6 HB, and 1 Inspira 1.8 Auto....
All 30 Fiestas climb up to Genting, in few minutes time...left the poor 1.8 Inspira alone, slowly climbing up the hill....
After the Inspira reached the top, the owner complained...Is this a car?? Is this the power of 1.8?? Useless, crappy junk!! no power!! lose to 1.6 Fiestas....terrible car!!! but since he bought it ald, he had 2 bear with that trouble....
see?? even Inspira owner himself also complain, up hill climb lose to Fiestas....Inspira had more HP and Torque than Fiesta right?? Customer still complain powerless....

haha, the above is Fiesta 1.6HB vs. Inspira 1.8E, both auto gears, 1 with CVT, another is DSG (Full auto)....
different capacity engine, 1600 vs 1800
still Fiesta wins...

no doubt, Fiesta is a very very good car too....i envy it

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Added on February 21, 2011, 2:32 am
lol...that expedition was done by Ford, Inspira is juz another owner which wants to go Genting...

Fiesta had Hill Climb Assist, so, in the end, the result and advantages goes to Fiesta....
juz the difference in specs and electronic functions....by alot..

What's so different?? it's still 2.0cc car, a C-segment....doesn't matter Hybrid, Turbo Diesel or NA Petrol or FI Petrol or NA Diesel, all of them still run on 2.0 engine with 4 wheels, spacious C-segment, looks as a proper car......it's still a 2.0L engine car, so wat's big deal abt T.Diesel, NA Petrol, FI Petrol, NA Diesel, Hybrid powered.....we're comparing 2.0L with 2.0L and car with car, we never said any types of cars, what powered them...when all of those need fuels...it can be RON92-99 and Diesel powered(those fuels came with the same petroleum right?? Petronas, Shell etc.)
unless you're comparing 2.0L car with 2.0L motorcycle(IF it ever existed) or others....

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Added on August 26, 2011, 10:54 amyou wan the best conclusion for best FC among those classes we mentioned above for 2.0L car??
1st. Focus TDCI
2nd. Altis DVVTi
3rd. Nissan Sylphy
4th onwards, your own choices...

still 1 better?? get PRIUS n INSIGHT lor...
and u wan say say Diesel can't compare right?? I assume PRIUS n INSIGHT is still powered by Petrol?? and why is it better that Focus TDCI?? Think Matrix....