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kelvin_tan
post Dec 10 2010, 02:17 PM

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SAP ABAP / Basis / BI/BW = technical

Basis is the adminstrator of SAP.
BI / BW = Business Intelligence / Business Warehouse. Kind of like data mining for decision making purposes.

SAP FICO = Financials and Controlling = Finance / Accounting related module.. functional

SAP = Material Manegement = Manage Materials ? = Functional.

Number of SAP functional consultants > SAP Technicals in most projects. Because SAP is already a ready made system and technical ppl is involved only if the system cannot cater for the requirements of users.

I'm sure you can google these up.
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post Dec 10 2010, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Dec 4 2010, 12:13 AM)
Joining ABAP and moving to functional is feasible but not easy to do.
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Well, probably not because you've never gone that path .. I've many friends who were doing programming but after couple of years, moved on doing functional and earn much better salary compared to me. Oh yeah, I don't have the soft skill to con people .. so, got stuck doing programming my whole life smile.gif

Oh .. BTW, I thought AS400 is a platform .. SAP used to have a version running on AS400, no idea if they still have ..

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post Dec 11 2010, 10:23 AM

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Moving from technical to functional in SAP... not in as400.. Not to say it cannot be done but it is definately not easy to do. The ratio of ppl that managed to do so is probably 5 to 1.
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I've many friends who started as Abapers who are now doing functional, I'm talking about SAP here not Silverlake or others that running on AS400.
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post Dec 11 2010, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Dec 10 2010, 02:17 PM)
SAP ABAP / Basis / BI/BW = technical

Basis is the adminstrator of SAP.
BI / BW = Business Intelligence / Business Warehouse. Kind of like data mining for decision making purposes.

SAP FICO = Financials and Controlling = Finance / Accounting related module.. functional

SAP = Material Manegement = Manage Materials ? = Functional.

Number of SAP functional consultants > SAP Technicals in most projects. Because SAP is already a ready made system and technical ppl is involved only if the system cannot cater for the requirements of users.

I'm sure you can google these up.
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Kelvin,yea sure I can ask Mr Google but I would like to listen what experienced people say about it.
This is because they have real exposure about SAP..

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I've many friends who started as Abapers who are now doing functional, I'm talking about SAP here not Silverlake or others that running on AS400.

Wiraone,so are you still an ABAPER now??
Hmm.. as far as I know,in Silverlake, like my product manager, he has 10 yrs experience in technical but now he is doing functional stuffs..
I mean,he has a strong basis technically..
However I am not sure about SAP,does it applies too?? unsure.gif
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post Dec 14 2010, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(Tiger99 @ Dec 11 2010, 11:38 PM)
Kelvin,yea sure I can ask Mr Google but I would like to listen what experienced people say about it.
This is because they have real exposure about SAP..
Wiraone,so are you still an ABAPER now??
Hmm.. as far as I know,in Silverlake, like my product manager, he has 10 yrs experience in technical but now he is doing functional stuffs..
I mean,he has a strong basis technically..
However I am not sure about SAP,does it applies too?? unsure.gif
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The same goes to any field Tiger .. when you've the technical background, going to functional or management, you'll have the advantage. Oh yes, I'm still doing ABAP for the past .. 16 years now. Many things have changed for sure .. Why didn't I move on to the better part of SAP? Because I don't really like to deal with end users, I don't like to do management either. I've once lead a team of Abapers but pitty them, I don't really have trust in them and most of the time, I went ahead and did the tasks myself.. (I'm now working remotely at home as "freelancer").

Most of my friends who were doing ABAP with me are doing functional consultants or managers now. Only few are sticking doing ABAP, guess probably with the same reason as me.

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post Dec 14 2010, 09:34 AM

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nice smile.gif freelancer earns big bucks in SAP. Probably more than those managers
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post Dec 14 2010, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(wiraone @ Dec 14 2010, 08:21 AM)
The same goes to any field Tiger .. when you've the technical background, going to functional or management, you'll have the advantage. Oh yes, I'm still doing ABAP for the past .. 16 years now. Many things have changed for sure .. Why didn't I move on to the better part of SAP? Because I don't really like to deal with end users, I don't like to do management either. I've once lead a team of Abapers but pitty them, I don't really have trust in them and most of the time, I went ahead and did the tasks myself.. (I'm now working remotely at home as "freelancer").

Most of my friends who were doing ABAP with me are doing functional consultants or managers now. Only few are sticking doing ABAP, guess probably with the same reason as me.
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wiraone,
Changes in what aspects??
Wow 16 yrs of experience...so what are your comments about being an ABAPER??
Your situation is kinda like another senior of mine in Silverlake.
He has 10 yrs experience in AS400 as well but today he is still a programmer.
When people asked him, "y u are still a programmer aft 10 yrs??"
he said because he liked doing programming..
so he didn't want to be promoted,

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post Dec 14 2010, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Tiger99 @ Dec 14 2010, 01:37 PM)
wiraone,
Changes in what aspects??
Wow 16 yrs of experience...so what are your comments about being an ABAPER??
Your situation is kinda like another senior of mine in Silverlake.
He has 10 yrs experience in AS400 as well but today he is still a programmer.
When people asked him, "y u are still a programmer aft 10 yrs??"
he said because he liked doing programming..
so he didn't want to be promoted,
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If programmer can get the same pay as PM. Y not? tongue.gif
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post Dec 14 2010, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Dec 14 2010, 02:32 PM)
If programmer can get the same pay as PM. Y not? tongue.gif
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really?? programmer can get same pay as pm??
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post Dec 15 2010, 06:55 AM

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QUOTE(Tiger99 @ Dec 14 2010, 02:41 PM)
really?? programmer can get same pay as pm??
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post Dec 15 2010, 11:12 PM

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"RPG 5"

try to google that biggrin.gif
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post Dec 17 2010, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(LOvebugs @ Dec 15 2010, 11:12 PM)
"RPG 5"

try to google that biggrin.gif
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Googled that term "RPG 5" but it turned out a list of result of RPG games.
what exactly is that??

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