It's not that they do not want to change.
I feel that it's obselete for a reason? On the banks point of view. It's safer to be obselete. Unlike the commonly used SAP?

It's even better if nobody heard of them.

@hybridmaestro
go live in a cave.

"Its safer to be obselete". What the hell is this ? Organizations dont care if its popular or not. All they want is
a) It should meet their requirements
b) there should be support if a problem occurs.

Obselete technology = less ppl are using it = less ppl have expertise on it = chances of having support is less or VERY EXPENSIVE.

Reasons why banks dont want to change is because the impact to change is too huge because they handle customers MONEY.

Banks usually have in-house IT team or they own a subsidiary/partly own a company that handles their system issues. It's common sense, it's someone else money, they couldn't just give the responsibility to a third party.

Since they handle someone else money. Aren't security issues should be the prime concern here?

Heard of COBOL? it's obselete enough to be safe.

U have limit urself to think at your own perspective. A good consultant should always think at the point of view of the client/business.
I.e. Logitistics = Should always be accuracy and timeliness.
Banking = Security is the prime concern.

Yes, changing is always costly and has big impact. Aren't this supposed to be common knowledge?
Chances are, you in the IT line but not the into the consulting area. WD? Seagate? AMD? Agilent?

@hybridMaestro
I'm in IT consulting. And the requirements so far is, you either meet their requirements, or you dont. They wont care whether it is popular or obsolete. If it serves their purpose, and if there is ready support, you got yourself a deal.

I'm speaking as a consultant that designed and implemented systems for banks. My company does provide support for these banks in the case of any problems.

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Added on December 3, 2010, 6:14 pmOn a side note. things that are less popular / obselete is because it cannot meet the worlds demands. Its unable to evolve further to meet requirements.

Popular things keep growing and become renowned because it solves problems or is able to satisfy certain requirement for most ppl.

This post has been edited by kelvin_tan: Dec 3 2010, 06:14 PM

Kelvin, can I enter SAP field as a fresh grad??
what is a good way to become a SAP consultant?
should I join as a ABAPER then jump into Functional Consultant or straight away join as a functional people??

@Tiger99
Yes i have received offers in the past to join SAP as a fresh.
I'll give you a head start.
- Vantage Point Consulting
- ABeam consulting
- IBM Consulting
- Accenture
- HCL - Axon

these are the few that hires fresh grads for SAP that I can say with certainty.

Joining ABAP and moving to functional is feasible but not easy to do.

Kelvin,thanks for providing such useful information
You mean joining as a Functional is better than starting as a ABAPER??
Can a functional person learn technical stuffs like ABAPERS do??
What did you work as when you first joined SAP world??

Regards.

This post has been edited by Tiger99: Dec 4 2010, 12:18 PM

I rejected the SAP offer. I was only in SAP for a very brief period. Chances of moving to functional when u start off as an abaper is minimal. Not to say you can't, but its difficult.

Axon Solutions you will have to start off in technical field. After 2 years you will be given the option to move to functional subject to your performance.

kelvin do you also liaising with Consolsys Technologies ?

@skycrew
no i dont. Why suddenly asking me that?

just asking only because u said that u are consultant for banking solution.

i thought u also liaising with that company. if u do, please reply to this thread

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=838861

thanks kelvin

Kelvin,did you mean by the time you were offered positions frm Silverlake and SAP,
you went for SAP??
then after some time you quite SAP again??
why did you quit?

@Tiger99
I was interested to apply for Silverlake but I didnt. I applied SAP related positions and got some. Ended up I didnt like it cause I was offered technical roles. So i decided to give it up.

Kelvin,so what is your job title now?
you got a functional position now?

Business Analyst. Yes functional.

Business Analyst?? sounds like you are no longer touching technical stuff

@tiger99
No technical anymore for me. Well, minor scripting etc every now and then. But no programming / coding

Kelvin, yea, it sounds like one of the business analyst in Silverlake while I was working there..haha

Lol.. I would assume my role as a BA is different from roles of BA in silverlake (based on my observation).

BA is the point of contact for users. BA does system design. But in silverlake, users discussion is direct to technical ppl and system design seems to be done by the technical guys as well..

wow you knows Silverlake well,yea tht's y my product manager always have meetings with bank users to get requirements..
By the way Kelvin, what's the difference between SAP Basis,SAP FICO, and SAP ABAPER???
there are so many roles in SAP which are confusing