Yea. Like i always said. RPG or watever language is just a programming language. In the end is the product/business knowledge dat brings u to the place u wanted.

Do you worry about that problem?I mean the less and less demand on RPGLE in the future..
But I think there is still nothing can substitute AS400 in banking field yet isn't it??
The programming language is all the same,(RPGLE,Java,C++,C#..),but the business knowledge in certain field is important.

This post has been edited by Tiger99: Nov 17 2010, 11:57 PM

I just can hope dat by the time i need to worry about the problem, I wont be doing technical programming anymore

So its a matter of preferences, even you are seeing urself as a programmer 10 years from now you don't have to worry yet because in 10 years u will less likely be involved so much in programming. At that level, you will be doing design and planning instead of the technical programming stuff unlike the US market where programmers still getting paid well. In Malaysia, you need to step up to be a analyst or consultant in order to be compensated well enough.

Malaysia and India seems to have become the global IT hub for many MNC due to the low labor cost therefore you won't wanna compete in technical programming aspects with all the young ppl out there when u get old and have a family. .

Regarding the banking software, there arent too many vendors around. Many banks and financial institutions still using Mainframes and As/400 as their core bank and core bank is not a thing you would change every 10 years as they invested hundred millions on it. It will stay as long as vendors and IBM continue to provide support and upgrades. For new implementations, its sorely depends on the bank to choose which vendors and solution then see what system they should buy in order to support them. There is pro and cons in every job. You just need to try and get the best out of it and dats the only thing u can control.

This post has been edited by Vinci777: Nov 18 2010, 10:30 AM

@Vinci777
hence my point of the demand for AS400 / RPGLE remains constant only but does not go up. Only existing businesses that have implemented it are providing "recurring" business.

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Added on November 18, 2010, 2:37 pmBut actually on a side note, I'm interested to know if anyone has been doing programming for 10years of more (be it RPG, JAVA, C++, ABAP or so on) and wants to continue doing programming. This is for knowledge purposes only.

This post has been edited by kelvin_tan: Nov 18 2010, 02:37 PM

>>Vinci777: Thanks for the reply,you did provide a lot of information to me.
I got what you tried to say,but I have been having a contradiction.
I shall graduate by next year,do you think it is suitable for me to join Silverlake??
I wanted to get into the banking field but at the same time a am worry that an AS400 programmer wont bring me far in my career..
May I know how can I learn business knowledge of banking in Silverlake?
If I joined Silverlake as a programmer,will I be able to learn any business knowledge since I am a technical person??

@Tiger99
For Silverlake, the people that learns the most about both technical and business knowledge are the programmers. But as a programmer, chances of you joining the bank is low. Even if you join you will be in the IT team doing programming / support.

Different in other companies.

Bro..first and foremost, RPGLE / RPG is not going to be phased out anytime soon.

The only suggestion is , Get out of Silverlake and you will see the real working world...
Silverlake is just a too "China Man" Company..and I believe the first thing when u first joint them, Mr. GP Ooi, must have told you "this is a No Bonus" company, we don't practice giving bonuses"

Where is the motivation? Get out and you will learn more

@coconutzz
thats not true. Silverlake has started including bonus in the offer letter to the NEW HIRES ONLY... Old hires forget about it.

But for the new hires.. their increment is like crap..

BTW, I do agree on your point that RPG / RPGLE will not be phased out anytime soon. But the demand is getting less n less. The difference will be noticeable in maybe 10 years from now.

Really? they really do provide bonuses for new staff??

@Tiger99
yea from what I heard. Need further confirmation on this. New hires here refers to fresh grad new hires.

Dam, if like dat must mogok ard

@vinci777
believe me.. ur better of without the bonus. The increment sucks for those with bonus..

Kelvin,I wonder which company you are working with now.
mind to share??

@Tiger99
Why the sudden inquiry on which company I am working for ? ><
I'm not in silverlake but I am on a banking project as a business analyst. Naturally, banking projects = liasing heavily with silverlake

Because it seems like you understand Silverlake so much..
But you said you are not a Silverlaker,
so I wonder lo...

@tiger99
Hahah.. I do hear a lot of things on the sidelines I got study about silverlake cause last time wanted to enter but then decided otherwise.

>>Kelvin: I am still considering whether enter AS400 or SAP...
not really sure what is SAP, SAP stands for system,application and product??
and what is SAP ABAP??
does not make sense

ABAP is the programming language for SAP.
ABAP = Advanced business application programming.

Take note that Abapers in SAP gets underpaid if you are comparing with functional consultants. However, being in SAP is a plus on itself although the market is less "juicy" then 5-10 years ago.

What do you mean by functional consultants??
That means functional consultants are not touching technical parts?
It sounds like SAP is having the same problem as AS400 which has a "juiceless" market
Really has no idea what kind of systems can be developed by using SAP...
Is the development tool of SAP looks similar like AS400?

@Tiger99
Functional consultants configure the system settings, design the flow, etc. SAP is kinda like a juiceless market. Development tool of SAP is different from AS400.