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Crystal2
post Aug 23 2012, 10:26 AM

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My advice to all potential buyers and realty negotiators: don't ever go near any projects carried out by that Group of companies. You will only have numerous heart sicks and disappointments every step of the way. No projects carried out by them were done well or on time. Just drive around BBK and you will know what I mean. Caveat Emptor!!
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post Sep 14 2012, 03:03 PM

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According to the guideline issued by The Ministry of Housing and Local Government, the relevant commencement date for LAD claim should be the date when purchasers paid the booking fees and not the subsequent date when the S&P Agreement was signed.

NB: Sorry, the picture is not very clear. (Source: Ren Ha, Facebook of Residency @ Park 51 Condo)


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Crystal2
post Oct 3 2012, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(Angry Owner 5 @ Oct 3 2012, 01:08 AM)
living and kitchen is porcelain...only first floor install with the damn ceramic, totally different from S &P...


Added on October 3, 2012, 1:12 am

do u think we shld go to their HQ in Klang and make hell of noise? cos i think once they put up the tiles...gone case lioa...
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Actually, if you asked me - it is gone case the moment you booked. Deemed yourself lucky that your house is delivered albeit not to your satisfaction.
Crystal2
post Jan 10 2013, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(zomba @ Jan 10 2013, 02:21 AM)
TO  -->  USAHASAMA UTAMA SDN.BHD or ACMAR,

If you are seeing this post, please make sure the houses in PUTRA IMPIANA Phase 5 and the surroundings looks like RM400k above quality houses and not like RM200k quality!!!

If not we all will log a complaint to the Ministry of Housing Affairs or Medias to have your company to be Black Listed for ever and ever
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http://www.kpkt.gov.my/kpkt_bi/

http://ehome.kpkt.gov.my/aduan-online/entr...anperumahan.cfm
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Do you think that Usahasama Utama and other Acmar group of companies are worried about your complaint? Think again.

Please count your blessings when they finally deliver your house. Other projects developed by them are not so lucky and some are still waiting after more than 12 years.

HaHaHa ....




Crystal2
post Jan 11 2013, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(zomba @ Jan 10 2013, 06:58 PM)
People always keep quiet and accept all conditions... thats why they dare to do that.

We are consumer and we have the rights to complaint. Remember this is not RM200k or rm300k house. Its half a million over price!!! So put your expectation big as the price is big!!

I would not have care if the house are purchased around RM200 or RM300K. And also i don't care if the surroundings is not good as the price we pay cheap. But this house is half a million guyssss.... think..think..and think....
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Don't get me wrong. Your message on 10th Jan in this forum is asking (more like begging) the developer to build your house according to the RM400+K quality standard or else you will report to the relevant authorities.

My message to you is don't waste your time begging but go ahead and complain although your complaints will not affect them - they are hardcore delinquent.

You should just go ahead to complain to all relevant authorities and media as you have been shortchanged. In fact, if you have done your homework, you would not have bought anything developed by this Group or the Tee family. Good Luck.

This post has been edited by Crystal2: Jan 11 2013, 07:59 AM
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post Jan 11 2013, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 11 2013, 09:48 AM)
He bought the house at RM 400+k and at this stage of developer under performing, he requested the developer to deliver it at RM 400+k, its fair and what's wrong with it? He not begging for RM 600+k quality... Or anything that I missed out?

But I have to agree that, if one who known to property development, he / she would not buying anything from this Acmar Group or Tee brothers or families. They had terrible record and names in Klang, not only properties but others as well.
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It is a fair request but quite pointless to expect quality work from this Group. Please read the opening 5 words of Zomba's 2nd para "If not we all will ...". Frankly the developer will not be bothered with any threats. So my advice still stands - please lodge your report now (as your threat to report will not work) to all the relevant authorities and media.



Crystal2
post Jan 11 2013, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(zomba @ Jan 11 2013, 03:22 PM)
Lets wait until all are completed and measure our house and surroundings appearance towards the 200K and 300k house just not far away from phase 5.
If we all knew Acmar is this type of developer we would not have came close to buy the house.

Anyway lets make things short if they deliver the house under a quality of450++k what is the next action you should take? I am asking Crystal2 to elaborate and share to us. Keeping quiet is not good enough.
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You might want to refer to the developers blacklisted in the Ministry of Housing and Local Government website.

1] Blacklist of Developers with Sick Projects:
http://www.kpkt.gov.my/kpkt/fileupload/pem...T_31DIS2012.pdf

No: 123 Perspektif Masa Sdn Bhd
No: 127 PNSB Acmar Sdn Bhd
No: 178 Usahasama Utama Sdn Bhd

2] Blacklist of Developers who failed to pay compound fine
http://www.kpkt.gov.my/kpkt/fileupload/pem...n_31DIS2012.pdf

No: 349 Perspektif Masa Sdn Bhd

Then read up the 3-parts article on Amendment to Housing Development (Control and Licensing) Act 1966:
http://www.iproperty.com.my/news/tag/the-h...opment-act/4225

If you think you have a case, then lodge your complaints to the Tribunal for house buyers (there is a upper limit of RM50,000):

http://ehome.kpkt.gov.my/main.php?Content=...115&IID=&Page=1

If claim value exceeds RM50,000 you will need to file a civil suit through your lawyer.

Please refer to the following websites on their completed, current and stalled/delayed projects:

http://www.acmar.com/Kl%20Ampang.html
http://www.drapportvilla.com/index.html
http://www.acmar.com/Property%20Development.html
http://www.acmar.com/page1043.html

When they do finally deliver your house, it is the beginning of your other nightmares. Good Luck.

CAVEAT EMPTOR
Crystal2
post Jan 12 2013, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(zomba @ Jan 11 2013, 03:22 PM)
Lets wait ....

.... I am asking Crystal2 to elaborate and share to us. Keeping quiet is not good enough.
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Who do you blame if you paid the down-payment and signed the Sales & Purchase Agreement without doing enough background check on what you are buying into?

Who do you blame if you never check the reputation of the developer or the persons behind the developer company?

Who do you blame if you are seduced by beautiful brochures?

Who do you blame if you never check the end products (example Phases 1 – 4) before buying?

Who do you blame if you never check out the location (which is former mining land and near pylons)?

Who do you blame if you are inexperience but never (or too proud to) consult others before buying?

Who do you blame if you leap before you look?

Who do you blame if you just complain in this forum instead of going to the authorities?

Who do you blame if, after graduating, you still expect others to spoon feed you with information (just like when you were still in the varsity)?

Who do you blame if you are slow in exercising (or never exercise) your rights as a buyer/consumer?

Who do you blame if you ignore the mantra for buying property, i.e. Location, Location, & Location?

Who do you blame if you just sit there looking pretty and expect others to do the homework for you?

Who do you blame if you ignore the century old advice in Latin “Caveat Emptor” (Let the Buyer Beware)?

Answer:
ONLY YOU YOURSELF TO BLAME!!

Crystal2
post Jan 15 2013, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Angry Owner 5 @ Jan 12 2013, 10:41 PM)
enough crap la, what cock u r talking, damage is done, now is the remedy time, ppl ask u question and u answer dono what crap....pls stop commenting, u r making ppl sick...!
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In case you didn’t realise that I have answered, please read my earlier post #459. Whatever crap I wrote in post #460 I am glad I got your attention and hopefully the attention of all future buyers as well. Before you can solve a problem you must first acknowledge that there is a problem and that you are also contributory to the problem. The truth always hurts, especially so when you can’t blame anyone else for your (in a way, self inflicted wounds &) problems.

I will not stop commenting in this forum as long as I know there will be more gullible buyers (for phase 6) being enticed by their websites and beautiful brochures.

QUOTE(vsk @ Jan 12 2013, 09:31 PM)
... set up committee bring this case to putrajaya .
Calculations Quotation Min Need 10k~12k to re change back …
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That is one good solution (i.e., initiating a Class Action or Representative Action), but it is tough and expensive. If you want faster resolution you should lodge your individual complaint directly to the Tribunal /Pemudah if your claim does not exceed RM50,000.

QUOTE(snake4168 @ Jan 12 2013, 10:49 PM)
…. But does it mean they can cheat us like that? …
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Of course not. The developer must not try to short-change the buyers and neither should the buyers allow them to get away without paying for their folly. Frankly I think the Group has been getting away with lots of unfulfilled promises – see also their D’Rapport, BBK Business Park, Port Tech City projects. That is why I said earlier that you should consider yourself lucky if they finally deliver your house.

QUOTE(zomba @ Jan 15 2013, 12:59 AM)
You must be one of the Acmar Staff….

... most probably you did not buy any of the houses there ...

…. if the developer does not deliver up to that that quality they have to give the necessary refund, simple right?
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Sorry to disappoint you - I am not one of Acmar Staff. If I were, I must be mad to crack my own rice-bowl.

I am just an investor and have been following this Group's development projects after I nearly bought one of their projects launched sometime in 2007/08 and till to date they have re-launched 2-3 times but still nothing comes up above ground level, except for the showroom and foundation pile-caps.

Yes, you are right that I didn't buy any in Taman Putra Impiana. I did go to the showhouse for Phase 3A or 5 (can't really remember which phase but it was in April 2010) and was very impressed by its built-up quality and design but luckily I was told by my friend that it is the same Acmar Group and then I remembered their other stalled projects in Klang and Kuala Lumpur.

I fully agreed with you that the developer has to deliver to the quality standards promised / shown in their show-house and failing which they have to reimburse the buyers if they can't or won't make good their promise.

This post has been edited by Crystal2: Jan 15 2013, 08:40 PM
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post Jan 16 2013, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(Angry Owner 5 @ Jan 15 2013, 10:52 PM)
u see, apparently u r not welocme here and ppl dont like the way u approached issues, damage already done for phase 5 buyers....no need to tell so many grandmother story, ppl had bought the house, now is not the time for story telling. ppl need help here. and da, no need u tell here future buyer will definitely blacklist acmar when they come in this blog. Phase 5 almost complete, ppl r discussing how to minimize the damage. u dont jump in middle of no way and tell all ' who dont know mother is woman' bible....future buyer had get the message, ok? do u copy? do u acknowledge? do u get it?
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This is a free country and I have as much right as you have to participate in this forum.

You would serve your community better if you could channel your anger and fiery energy to tackle the developer.

Don’t bark at the wrong tree and don’t let your anger blind you that you can’t strategise further to solving your problem. Throwing tantrums in this forum will not solve your problems. With more bad publicity their Phase 6 and subsequent phases will not sell and that may force the developer to improve and also keep their promises to the older phases. Ability to plan and strategise in this situation will ‘separate the men from the boys’.

For a start if it is not already done, why don’t you set up a Residents Association to pull all your Phase 1-5 buyers together?

This post has been edited by Crystal2: Jan 16 2013, 08:56 AM
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post Jan 17 2013, 10:31 AM

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House buyers should band together in order to have more clout when dealing with developers and agencies.

Read this article by National House Buyers Association:
http://www.hba.org.my/articles/buyer_watch...uyers_unite.htm

How to form a legal Residents Association
(Information sourced from the Registrar of Societies website)

1) The founding meeting should be attended by at least seven members and their names have to be included in the meeting minutes.

2) The members have to:-

– agree on the formation of the association;

– agree on the name of association;

– decide on the association’s registered address;

– elect the sponsoring committee members to handle the registration for the association;

– approve the constitution and regulations of the association; and

– jot down the minutes of the meeting, including the motions above.

Societies Act 1966:
http://www.ros.gov.my/editor/files/File/do..._Pertubuhan.pdf

Sample Constitution of the Residents Association:
http://www.ros.gov.my/editor/files/File/Un...h%20Version.pdf

For more information on how to get a pro tem committee registered, call 03-8886 3295/ 603-8886 3296, visit www.ros.gov.my, or email jppm@ros.gov.my.

The ROS is located at Aras 2 & 5, Blok B, Bangunan Chancery Place, Jalan Diplomatik 2, Presint Diplmatic, 62546 Putrajaya.


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post Jul 10 2013, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(chunchun88 @ Jul 4 2013, 09:25 AM)
Hi i am a new member here .. nice to meet u all..
This is my 1st time buy house ..i just paid the deposit for phase 6 while waiting the loan approval .. after see you all comment .. i start to feel worry .. especially phase 5 owner complain workmanship poor , then no fencing , wall senget .. bcos the CBD properties agent told me contractor have already change .. so phase 6 wont have this kinda issue... kindly advice Phase 6 izzit no worth to buy ?
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You must be a die-hard optimist or a masochist. With so much bad publicity with their group of companies and all their projects you still go in. Just do yourself a favour, find a good excuse to walk away if you can, eg. loan not approved, etc.

 

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