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Ivan_T
post Sep 8 2017, 10:15 AM

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I have a question about HDR videos, the TV normally automatically detect if the source video has got HDR or not and set the picture mode to HDR accordingly. There is no problem when I play the 4K HDR video from external sources like USB HDD or from media player but when I play the 4K HDR demo from Youtube, the TV can't detect it. Any idea why? Youtube is still with the highest count of HDR sources.

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post Sep 8 2017, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(#Victor @ Sep 8 2017, 11:09 AM)
I think probably the resolution of the video u watch in YouTube TV is not in 4K because we can't switch to our preferred resolution as it will auto switch based on ur network speed.
Try open up 'Stats for nerds' in ur YouTube TV to see what resolution it is playing.
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You probably right, but the picture looks so good, I believe it is in 4K. Let me check your suggestion.


QUOTE(tohff7 @ Sep 8 2017, 11:35 AM)
My KS7000 can detect HDR from Youtube demo. This is with the bulit-in Youtube app.

I doubt it can detect HDR mode if you are playing Youtube from other sources like PS4, Android box etc..
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I'm using the built-in TV Youtube app only, I'm not playing Youtube from external sources. I'm playing 4K HDR .mkv file from external HDD connected to the USB port of the TV and that the TV can detect the HDR source.

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post Sep 8 2017, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(ubi1kelubi @ Sep 8 2017, 11:04 AM)
How much the price? 65" size is about right for curved screen, any smaller than that the benefits of curved screen will be felt minimal laugh.gif
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RM6999 display set and RM7799 new set.
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post Sep 8 2017, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(Haruji Sora @ Sep 8 2017, 07:12 PM)
If it's flat i'll buy it without thinking twice LOL.

Alas no 65 incher flat version of KS7000. Had to buy 55 inch LOL
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You are exactly same as me... LOL
Other countries has got the 65" KS7000 but we don't. Don't understand why Samsung Malaysia think we all preferred the curved TV. 55" too small. Alternative if can find LG UH950t is good also, the 4k is quite impressive.
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post Sep 11 2017, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(WahBiang @ Sep 9 2017, 03:00 PM)
SA told me MU6100 this year was made from IPS panel, and we tested using finger some more and it seems true... last year model KU6100 is made of VA panel?
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From where did the SA got the info that MU6100 is IPS panel? This is almost impossible because Samsung doesn't produce IPS panel and they will have to buy panel from LG, their largest competitor.

QUOTE(WahBiang @ Sep 9 2017, 07:38 PM)
i only noe IPS gt better viewing angle? better colors not sure, but heard nite view less good... but dunnoe true or not is IPS panel or VA panel for that samsung model
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Yes, viewing angle is definitely better on IPS and IPS pixel level response time is faster, so less motion blur for sports and fast moving scenes. Also the non black color reproduction is better as well, check out those LG SUHD TV with 10bits panel, the color is just impressive. The biggest problem for IPS is contrast, if you will watch the TV in dark room like bedroom at night, don't buy IPS TV, the black is bad with light bleed. But for large well lit living room, the IPS TV can produce quite good picture even watching from side.
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post Sep 27 2017, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(Haruji Sora @ Sep 27 2017, 10:14 AM)
You forgot the fact that Samsung model equivalent of 7 series in UK/Asia is 8 series in US, and LG retained the series.

Anyways Series is just a marketing jargon.

In terms of Panel performance, KS7500 is quite a way ahead of the LG IPS Panel (the only thing LG is more superior is the viewing angle)

I also find out LG upscaller abit off for my taste, and color reproduction is abit more mild (perhaps due to the fact I'm using Samsung TV for the past 15 years bias also maybe)

Harvey Norman should have those still in display,just bring a thumb drive with clips of things you usually watch (you can even pair your smartphone to the TV to stream, that's what I did)

Remember to loan their remote and set their Picture Mode to movie first before doing it (frankly speaking you probably won't use Dynamic at all, which is usually the default for Show Units.)
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KS7500 is a very nice TV from last year, however not everyone like the curved screen, I'm one of those. However, it doesn't mean that the LG is not good. Overall the features and technology behind the LG is more superior, Nanocell is as superior as the Qled and Dolby Vision is included. The WebOS is one of the best smart TV OS. It is a battle between VA and IPS panel, VA will win as picture quality is always related to native contrast and VA panel come with much higher contrast and it is easier to boost higher brightness without worrying too much about light bleed issue. This is required for HDR10 at 1000 nits brightness. Color from the KS7500 is attractive but it is actually a little over saturated, if you like more natural colors, it will be the LG. Between the 2 most peoples will take the Samsung, except those who don't like the curved screen.
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post Sep 28 2017, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(NahseK312 @ Sep 28 2017, 12:50 AM)
Thanks guys, but regarding Dolby Vision - the LG's panel is only 10 bit, how does that jive with DVision's 12bit specs? Feels like it can't show DV media in its true glory...

Oh, btw anyone knows how the 2+3 or 2+2 warranty works? If there are no parts after 4 yrs, do we get a TV of the same value we paid when we bought it, or a depreciated value? I see 11street selling with warranty options, but no info on what the warranty covers...
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Dolby uses 12-bit color depth for cinematic Dolby Vision content to avoid any noticeable banding but the format is agnostic to different color depths and works with 10-bit video or panel as well. In fact, Dolby recommends 10-bit color depth for broadcast.

Dolby Vision is designed as an end-to-end HDR process. So from capture through processing and into production, Dolby Vision is designed to preserve information that was originally captured and pass it on. The aim is to give you an HDR experience that's closer to the original by supplying more information.It also tells the display device how bright it should be, rather than provide one value as HDR10 does which stay static, and it can do this for every frame. The idea is that it allows creators to ensure that what you're seeing is what they intended. There is no 12bit TV panel that you can buy now, not even the OLED from LG, but you will get all the benefits or advantage of Dolby Vision even on a 10bit panel.

QUOTE(Haruji Sora @ Sep 28 2017, 10:24 AM)
I'm one of the person that sort of grown into Samsung more saturated color palette (using the AMOLED Phone Note 2 all the way to S7 Edge now, as well as for the past 10 to 15 odd years living room keep getting Samsung TV). Hence why LG looks washed out to me HAHA.
2 years warranty covered by Samsung officially, means they will come to your house to fix any problem with your TV (and change the whole panel if required) The remaining + years (2 or 3) will be covered by the company who sell you the TV. Depends on how the company handle their warranty claim, some will charge for service fee, and usually they won't have on site service (usually). And in some rare cases they'll just replace the whole TV with an equivalent newer model if the repair fee is much higher than just giving you a new one.
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I think it depends on the sellers, some sellers provide 2+3 that fully covered by the manufacturer over the 5 years with onsite support. The cost for the +3 years they claim back from insurance.
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post Oct 2 2017, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(NahseK312 @ Oct 2 2017, 12:10 PM)
Unfortunately only my old Note 3 had a blaster, but I dont have that phone anymore.
But dad has an old remote @ home, so I'mma take that and use.

Tested the TV this weekend @ streaming movies. They were super clear and nice (a bit too bright sometimes), but occasionally faced disconnection issues from home's network. Like 4~5 times in a 2hr movie. Wondering what was that about. HDR (tested with Rogue One) was AWESOME. The detailing @ ships & robots were soo good!

Btw, any means of stretching the pic to fill an entire screen - without distorting it too much? The top & bottom black bars are quite annoying!
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Yeah.. the high brightness is more suitable for showroom, but at home the 1000 nits HDR peak brightness is not watchable for more than 5 mins. So do the proper calibration to reduce the brightness and enhance the overall picture quality based on your own environment.

For streaming on the tv, it is always better to use wired connection and not Wifi.

If you don't want the top & bottom black bars, there is only one option, change the aspect ratio to 16:9 from original, provided you can accept the distorted picture.
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post Oct 11 2017, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(WahBiang @ Oct 7 2017, 10:19 AM)
Nice nice!! have u tried it at nite or side view? SA said it is "IPS" type panel, so is wider view and I notice this with their 55 inch TV.. true?
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55" should be PLS panel but the 65" is VA panel.
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post Oct 12 2017, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(jai2power @ Oct 12 2017, 10:54 AM)
Hi, Plan to get 55MU6100, but not sure about the TV panel is 10bit or not.
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Please don't expect to get 10 bits panel on a Samsung low end UHD TV. The 55MU6100 is a PLS 8 bit panel with static contrast of 1000:1. The 55MU7000 is a 10 bits panel.
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post Oct 26 2017, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(#Victor @ Oct 26 2017, 10:43 AM)
Any KU6000 users experience video went haywire while sound is still playing smoothly in TV's YouTube app? I supposed this is slow Internet connection issue? Or is this problem with the TV?
The solution is switch to another video or switch off and on the TV.

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I can see your connection speed at that time was only 272kb/s, obviously your connection is way too slow to stream the FHD video. What is the actual bandwidth of your internet connection? Are you connecting using Ethernet or Wifi?
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post Oct 30 2017, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(hlchoo @ Oct 30 2017, 11:40 AM)
Thanks for the clear explanation! I used YouTube black screen video and it’s all black, seems like the lights are off automatically.
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This is clearly an issue for most if not all Edge-lit LED TV, just a matter of less or more light bleed. In order for manufacturer to achieve very thin panel for LED TV, the only solution is edge-lit, one good eg. is the LG UH950. But KU6000 or MU6100 are not thin, the only reason could be cost. If don't want to get such issue, go for direct-lit full array LED TV. The local dimming function will work well only with direct-lit full array LED TV as the LEDs can be turned On and Off individually. One of the very good direct-lit full array LED TV is Sony Z9D, no light bleed can be seen.

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