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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V65, Plantation Surge & CI 1500 and beyond

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SKY 1809
post Nov 6 2010, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Nov 6 2010, 02:05 PM)
Does anyone know if there's a website to show the dates of upcoming quarter reports of companies?
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You can always create one to inform us, no harm done anyway. biggrin.gif


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post Nov 6 2010, 05:42 PM

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Everyone here is crazy about superbull! I like it!!! rclxms.gif

Bring it on!!! icon_idea.gif

Anyway, if got any fast-money making opportunities, please share here ya! lol tongue.gif
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post Nov 6 2010, 06:28 PM

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QE1
Size : $1.7 Trillion
Duration : 12Months
Bull Run : March 2009 - March 2010
Corrections : July09, Feb10

QE2
Size : $600B
Duration : 8Months
Bull Run : September 2010 - ???? (fill in urself)
Corrections : ????

IMO, QE1 was accepted by many nations as an emergency measure to stop the bleeding. Unfortunately now, we have a few parties that disagree with QE2, mainly BRIC because endless inflow of capital can cause a bigger problem to their economies.. Some countries are hinting at controlling inflow of hot money.

Many US companies have very strong cash balances denominated in USD.. eg Apple has 40B USD cash. They may start to spend them before USD goes down further... Is Fed trying to "force" cash rich US companies to spend ?

As for job creations, I think Fed is gambling on that. Some experts do not see the correlation between printing money and creating jobs. Did QE1 create lots of jobs ? Middle class in US will feel the pain when commodities start to sky rocket. In fact it already started.

So, while everyone goes all out, it's also good to plan the tradings carefully and dont buy blindly... all da best~~

This post has been edited by mopster: Nov 6 2010, 06:40 PM
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post Nov 6 2010, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(mopster @ Nov 6 2010, 06:28 PM)
QE1
Size : $1.7 Trillion
Duration : 12Months
Bull Run : March 2009 - March 2010
Corrections : July09, Feb10

QE2
Size : $600B
Duration : 8Months
Bull Run : September 2010 - ???? (fill in urself)
Corrections : ????

IMO, QE1 was accepted by many nations as an emergency measure to stop the bleeding. Unfortunately now, we have a few parties that disagree with QE2, mainly BRIC because endless inflow of capital can cause a bigger problem to their economies.. Some countries are hinting at controlling inflow of hot money.

Many US companies have very strong cash balances denominated in USD.. eg Apple has 40B USD cash. They may start to spend them before USD goes down further... Is Fed trying to "force" cash rich US companies to spend ?

As for job creations, I think Fed is gambling on that. Some experts do not see the correlation between printing money and creating jobs. Did QE1 create lots of jobs ? Middle class in US will feel the pain when commodities start to sky rocket. In fact it already started.

So, while everyone goes all out, it's also good to plan the tradings carefully and dont buy blindly... all da best~~
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thumbup.gif Dont bother lar.............follow our taikor advise, just SAPU

I blow water only

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post Nov 6 2010, 10:50 PM

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Still wanna sell ? blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif

KL bourse likely to continue uptrend...

http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/20101106112734/Article/

If yes, please try queue higher . tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Nov 6 2010, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(mopster @ Nov 6 2010, 06:28 PM)
QE1
Size : $1.7 Trillion
Duration : 12Months
Bull Run : March 2009 - March 2010
Corrections : July09, Feb10

QE2
Size : $600B
Duration : 8Months
Bull Run : September 2010 - ???? (fill in urself)
Corrections : ????

IMO, QE1 was accepted by many nations as an emergency measure to stop the bleeding. Unfortunately now, we have a few parties that disagree with QE2, mainly BRIC because endless inflow of capital can cause a bigger problem to their economies.. Some countries are hinting at controlling inflow of hot money.

Many US companies have very strong cash balances denominated in USD.. eg Apple has 40B USD cash. They may start to spend them before USD goes down further... Is Fed trying to "force" cash rich US companies to spend ?

As for job creations, I think Fed is gambling on that. Some experts do not see the correlation between printing money and creating jobs. Did QE1 create lots of jobs ? Middle class in US will feel the pain when commodities start to sky rocket. In fact it already started.

So, while everyone goes all out, it's also good to plan the tradings carefully and dont buy blindly... all da best~~
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I think Asia is the main victim, most Asia country ( or i should say all?) Foreign exchange reserve is in USD, the more FED printing, there will be more loss for Asia. While at the same time, those hot money flowing into Asia, If one day those money pull out at one time......Asia market will corrupt...
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post Nov 7 2010, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(mopster @ Nov 6 2010, 06:28 PM)
QE1
Size : $1.7 Trillion
Duration : 12Months
Bull Run : March 2009 - March 2010
Corrections : July09, Feb10

QE2
Size : $600B
Duration : 8Months
Bull Run : September 2010 - ???? (fill in urself)
Corrections : ????

IMO, QE1 was accepted by many nations as an emergency measure to stop the bleeding. Unfortunately now, we have a few parties that disagree with QE2, mainly BRIC because endless inflow of capital can cause a bigger problem to their economies.. Some countries are hinting at controlling inflow of hot money.

Many US companies have very strong cash balances denominated in USD.. eg Apple has 40B USD cash. They may start to spend them before USD goes down further... Is Fed trying to "force" cash rich US companies to spend ?

As for job creations, I think Fed is gambling on that. Some experts do not see the correlation between printing money and creating jobs. Did QE1 create lots of jobs ? Middle class in US will feel the pain when commodities start to sky rocket. In fact it already started.

So, while everyone goes all out, it's also good to plan the tradings carefully and dont buy blindly... all da best~~
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The intention of QE is to force the idle money doing something, and bring up inflation, force those idle money running wild. Price stability is not the priority anymore, they want 2% inflation. doh.gif
They are too scare about deflation, even though we are far from it.

QE is weak in job creation. Ain't we see more and more company cash hoarding due to fear or experience of 2008 crisis.
Even business is good, company priority is to let existing employee doing OT, doing more works to fulfill the orders instead of hiring. There is no coincidence productivity figure keep on going up.

Everything needs time to recover and confidence building. We are aftermath of the greatest shock in economy and financial system, straight away you do everything to force corporate to expand, hiring, increase capacity with just some recovery sighted, just like pushing a sleeping elephant to move.
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like a kid that just drown in swimming pool and nearly cause the life, and tomorrow tell the kid to learn swimming again.

Corporate won't hiring massively, if they don't have confidence, and feel secure about future. While confidence building issue is a slow process that something cannot be pushed, only can build.

My view, Fed is too desperate to see thing turn around rapidly, which is very hard.
And too desperate trying something, and risk of backfire is quite big.
And running out bullet fast.
Apart of QE, what's left for Fed?
Why not save it when really needed time?



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post Nov 7 2010, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 7 2010, 12:28 AM)
The intention of QE is to force the idle money doing something, and bring up inflation, force those idle money running wild. Price stability is not the priority anymore, they want 2% inflation.  doh.gif 
They are too scare about deflation, even though we are far from it.

QE is weak in job creation. Ain't we see more and more company cash hoarding due to fear or experience of 2008 crisis.
Even business is good, company priority is to let existing employee doing OT, doing more works to fulfill the orders instead of hiring. There is no coincidence productivity figure keep on going up.

Everything needs time to recover and confidence building. We are aftermath of the greatest shock in economy and financial system, straight away you do everything to force corporate to expand, hiring, increase capacity with just some recovery sighted, just like pushing a sleeping elephant to move.
or
like a kid that just drown in swimming pool and nearly cause the life, and tomorrow tell the kid to learn swimming again.

Corporate won't hiring massively, if they don't have confidence, and feel secure about future. While confidence building issue is a slow process that something cannot be pushed, only can build.

My view, Fed is too desperate to see thing turn around rapidly, which is very hard.
And too desperate trying something, and risk of backfire is quite big.
And running out bullet fast.
Apart of QE, what's left for Fed?
Why not save it when really needed time?
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when government trying to control the economy or market, thats the nightmare going to start if they do not do it properly
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post Nov 7 2010, 01:29 AM

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Imo, Indonesia is very much affected by hot money at the mo.

so need to watchout for spillover effects when jakarta takes a hit from hot money going out of the system.

lol, even i've turned bullish. but very cautious bull. good luck punting ok guys make some money! laugh.gif blow water a bit, as long as can ride the wave as run chicken when things start to smell bad brows.gif

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post Nov 7 2010, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(sulifeisgreat @ Nov 6 2010, 09:38 AM)
I know u luv buffet, look what is done  brows.gif
Berkshire's 3Q net income falls on derivatives

if u recall, when ben took over the fed, he folowed greenspan & continued raising the int rate. by 2007, bear stearn failure start, by 2008 u know la
now most good counters r high, those laggards r normally the louyah share. a good lesson in share picking for those who still wondering  blink.gif 
if u believe in bull run & we're at the initial stages, u know wat to do  lust.gif if no, then pls do wat is necessary  nod.gif

looking at all those countries inc int rate & watnot. their effect not as powderdul as FED action   bruce.gif 
if u get the idea, jus be aware on when to exit the train station bye.gif if u dun get the idea, ignorance is indeed bliss  wink.gif
once the us congress keep the bush era tax cuts, no more unknown cost to biz, giv clear & stable idea on economic policy, it unleashes moneyflies.gif 

for those who believe in buy low, sell high. how low is low? we all know how high is high, r u all selling now & staying sidelines? hypocrites  vmad.gif
of coz there will be minor corrections along d way, imo it'll be at a higher level than wat we're seeing. will u all buy then? at tat 'low' but higher index
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So far buffet methodology works real well though & proven. Let see if things happen soon.


Added on November 7, 2010, 3:05 am
QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 6 2010, 10:23 AM)
I agree all above except one bolded.
The economy is growing at quite slow pace at the moment, at least for 3Q until now, but money is flooding everywhere.


Added on November 6, 2010, 10:24 amIn bull market, there is no such thing buy low, sell high.

Only buy higher and sell higher.  whistling.gif
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Yes bcoz gov too cautious in everything & businessess not really accepting the new model due to sub-sectors favouritism.

If "privatisation" included in that signs - then we are similar to 1993 - 1995. So far none.

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post Nov 7 2010, 07:54 AM

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Pro Active Actions - Seems Our BNM Governor has the solution in hand

Our own FED

Joint Asian currency move

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html

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post Nov 7 2010, 08:57 AM

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seems like everybody in the bull mode...
maybe its time to sell?
warning sign already, esp when the paper commentaries already become very bullish (Note: Star column: are we in superbull?)
havent heard stock tips from uncle and auntie at pasar malam yet, but.. sweat.gif

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Is it even plausible to have a superbull these days? With all the 'savvy' retail investors that are 'aware' of the 'value' of their shares. Is it possible to push our index counters beyond 30x PER?
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It's not like last time where my relatives would randomly recommend stock.

Nowadays the older ones talk about property, the younger ones talk about forex/money market sleep.gif
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no idea, but its my 1st bolehland superbull whistling.gif with the hot money flowing everywhere, r we bound to get some hmm.gif
any idea what was the index counters PER during 1993-1995? or I need to spoonfeed myself for this info laugh.gif

QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Nov 7 2010, 09:18 AM)
Is it even plausible to have a superbull these days? With all the 'savvy' retail investors that are 'aware' of the 'value' of their shares. Is it possible to push our index counters beyond 30x PER?
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Nov 6 2010, 04:31 AM)
Is it? OSK doesn't like Unisem? But others quite like it.
Outperform, 2.61 (CIMB)
Buy , 3.25 (AmResearch)
Buy, 2.50 (馬興業金融)
Buy, 2.30 (達證券)
Outperform, 2.31 (RHB)

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Anyone has insider story on GTRONIC?
1) Directors have been buying
2) Dividend payouts in Nov 2010 (ex date 12 Nov 10). 5.2 + 2% dividend
3) continuously giving out share options schemes to the employees (yr 2010) but number of dividend payout is reduced. Used to be about 4x per annum.

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post Nov 7 2010, 11:43 AM

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Fed has no choice but to continue pushing QE2, even QE3...look at recent election in US, people show interest of FAST ACTIONS to Obama, they have no patient to wait. Look at Europe, people don't want to share the pain with government from their long time comfortable lifestyle, and they riots.
People are selfish, we all were educated that way since we were born to this materialize world. cool2.gif



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QUOTE(yok70 @ Nov 7 2010, 02:53 PM)
Fed has no choice but to continue pushing QE2, even QE3...look at recent election in US, people show interest of FAST ACTIONS to Obama, they have no patient to wait. Look at Europe, people don't want to share the pain with government from their long time comfortable lifestyle, and they riots.
People are selfish, we all were educated that way since we were born to this materialize world.  cool2.gif
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Ya , agree with you.

The funny thing about QE 2 is that there is a worldwide Wealth Creation of Trillion $ ( through stock markets ) since the announcement of QE2 by FED. Commodity prices jump to the sky.



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GENTING SP (SGX)

Now testing the Resistance at 2.28 so if breakout this all time high resistance with high volume it will be blue sky for this Stock and we can gain benefit from from Gens-CC( Up 11%) and Gens-C8 ( Up 3.5%) and let buy buy and goreng it rclxm9.gif

In addition,
The 3Q report will be around the corner at Nov 12 ~15 and if with good report it will be another big factor to push this stock high. biggrin.gif

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