Yup, only the UX2 offers phantom power. But if you could live without it and those VU meters, the UX1 would be the better deal.

Hmmm I've read that the latency is pretty minimal, if you have a decent comp, I guess it shouldn't be a problem.

recording latency might be minimal but monitoring ones can cause ur recordings to sound really bad (especially if u're playing a metal solo, ur drummer plays double bass at lightning speed etc. lol)

Hi everyone, gonna be recording tomorrow night in Subang. Just browsing through some tips in this thread.

I know unless you splash out a lot of cash, u won't be looking at a very good recording, but how do i get as close as possible to that? Especially the drums. I wasn't happy with the way the drums sounded the last time around. The studio had Pearl, it sounds good during rehearsal but a bit flat in the final mix.

Would it be irritable for the mixer if i were to tell him to do this, and that lolx. Cuz I'm a bit of a perfectionist u see, and when I hear the playback and not happy about something its kinda hard to put it thru in 'musical' language if u know wat i mean: e.g. I'd just go "vocal higher a bit" or "lead guitar lower a bit" I dunno how to be specific. any pointers??

next question is, The last time i record, I had a good sound coming from the amp when I was playing, but in the final mix, it sounded muddy and dull. with no tone at all. how do i avoid this?

Thanks is advance!

how bout recording induvidual parts? put a song in an mp3 player, and play to it with headphones.. maybe would get better sounds. just an opinion..

plankton, yeah, good solution but you loose the 'live vibe', and spend much much more time in the studio.
good drum mix = many mics, afaik

so , more mics then eh? How about the way u play the drums. I mean, during normal practice and gigs you would try to balance it out with the bass and the band right? but does that apply in the recording? would u lose the drum tone by hitting it with less force etc for a rock sound?

We are recording live cuz track by track gonna cost a bomb. but the vocals would be done seperately. I wish I have a keyboardist before tomorrow uwaaaa.a.... aa! I need that background 'coldplay' sound.. nyyyyymmmmmmmmmm.......

ic2 .. if time is limited, u need more mics for the drums like pix said, and in front of the amp maybe to get a good sound. if the recording studio is spacious (is THAT how u spell it ? ) that wouldnt be a problem. the studio should have a lot of mic stand lying around.

about playing drums.. if there are mics for the drum, then play like u normally do .?? dunno.. try ask whacker or other drummers from the Setting Up a Band thread. maybe some of them have experience in recording..

Thankx plankton (my fellow Jap Fender fren lolx)

I am going to go and check the studio tonite. Hopefully is spacious like u said. I don't know if the mic for the drums are gonna be plenty tho.

We're just trying out this studio cuz its kinda cheap for recording. If we're happy, we'll do another song and so on2. If not, of to Akar Karya we go!

Some general thoughts about drum miking = more mics doesn't guarantee a better sound

More mics could even cause more problems such as mic phase cancellation and noise leakage (the mic picks up unwanted sound from other sound sources) and etc.

To record drums. some basic knowledge about miking (mic placement, the distance between one mic to another and etc.) is required. I assume that the sound engineer at the studio knows this.

Some tips for a good recording:

First, you'll need to look at the band...a good band is a band that balance their overall dynamic and sound level accordingly. If you can't hear what other bandmates are playing, that means you're too loud, and not balancing properly.

Second, you'll nead a good sound engineer. A good sound engineer, even with minimal recording equipments can yield good recording results.

Third, the sound that comes out from the source (from the amps, guitars whatever). Obviously, if it sounds crap...then the result will be garbage in, garbage out. If it sounds good then, well good for you.

Actually, there are more to this but if i am going to talk about recording then, it will take forever. And another thing about recording is, experiment experiment experiment....there are multitude of sounds that u can get by just experimenting. But uh gizmoduck, since you're gonna record at a studio then, experimentation will be limited uh...by the sound engineer . And i don't think the sound engineer will like you meddling with his equipments either...

But since you're the customer then, you could at least request the recording sound that you desired.

This post has been edited by pokute: Mar 9 2006, 05:03 PM

What you/they could do is place 2 condenser mics above the drums and one dynamic on the bass drum. If you have the time (& money), try experimenting with mic placement till you get a balance sound out of the kit

As for guitars - assuming you're miking the amp - try experimenting with mic placement. Move the mic around until you get the 'sweet spot' you're looking for.
Otherwise, just plug a multi-effects processor into the mixer.

Some freebies I've found from the Computer Music

Drum Samples
http://www.naturalstudio.co.uk/ns_kit7freedemos.html

Piano, Bass & E-Piano VSTi (The E-Piano's incredibly warm. )
http://www.yohng.com/epiano.html

thx, pokute, for the useful precisions still afaik, having many mics would be efficient only if each mic is recorded on a separate track, so you can EQ each drum independantly.. am i correct?

gizmoduck, good luck, and enjoy your time in there !

Does any body know how much is the UX1 and UX2? If the difference isn't that fantastic, would go for the UX2.....

Now seriously thinking of buying one because have to do some heavy duty recording within the next month. Hopefully my new Zakk Epi will arrive in time!!!

The last I check UX1's around RM500 while UX2's RM900+.

yeah, but still, it is dependent on the capabilities of the studio's equipment and the engineer himself....

Good luck though gizmoduck!

EEEEP!!!!! I think I'll stick to the UX1 thankyouverymuch....

Maybe I can find it in Tom Lee next week....
But whatever it is.... I'm DEFINATELY getting a Zakk Wylde Wah if I see it there!!!

Hey guys which one you think is heavier? First one or second?

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Sumimasennnn everybody!!!

I went to the studio just now. The drum set is a Yamaha, the amps are an Ibanez half stack (duno model) and Marshall half-stack (duno also). Bass amp duno lol. But the room was rather small for recording and it worries me a bit. I remember somebody said the space must be big enuff. aaaaa....

The engineer showed me some samples of recording. It didn't sound the way i wanted it to be. The vocals were not so good. I am hoping like hell the ones he made me listen to were recorded live together with the band... The drums snare is a bit loose (but he said he could tighten it or use another) Oh yeah, a band used the broken mic effect thing like the Strokes.. cool!

Overall, not very impressed, but since we've booked, might as well try anyway. At least it'll be better than excess studio i hope lolx

Thanks everyone... any tips on the vocal mic would be useful....

hh7, first one sound like a cheap amp disto... like you're playing thru a can of green peas I would venture you could use that sound if you intend to make one or two overdubs, and spatialize it over the stereo pan.
the second one sounds heavier, and especially wider. But i wouldn't know how it'll sound within a mix... bass frequencies sound a bit intrusive, but maybe it'd be fine.

Lol first one was my distortions amp
And 2nd is my DS-1 XD.