well since its just for practice, u might not need up to rm5k. sure shells are important, but with very good skins and the right tuning, your drum can still sound awesome. money also should be spent on cymbals, for that, theres no cheaper way. u get what u pay for. lately the new zildjians arent that good. found out their quality dropped drastically over the years.if u're really on a tight budget u can go for staggs. they sound awesome. i know and heard of a few local drummers who drum professionally buying stagg cymbals.

forgot to mention sabian. but they do come with a high pricetag

well if u're gonna spend slowly(and know u have $$$ to spend) in stages then get something good(more higher end, preferrably not 2nd hand)...be patient and in the end of the day u dont have to sell anything off and have a nice good set.

what i was suggesting was if u had a budget and wanted to just buy once. however it would still sound good if u do that, just that u must know how to tune the drums well. the problem with 2nd hand drums are the hardware being worn out/rusty/etc. drums arent like guitars where 2nd hand ones are still ok or value increases. 2nd hand ones are just too troublesome.

sorry for the late reply. i need to ask around first to see whats the best thing for u too.

for that range, what 2nd hand sets are u currently looking at?

yamaha dd55? yea comes with 2 pedals. wouldnt recommend for drum practice. i add that to my drum kit for extra drum sounds via midi

avengers88, theres alot of drum video lessons online. among highly recommended vids are mike portnoy's progressive drum concept, liquid drum theater series, etc. I cant tell u where to dload them, but, im sure u know how to search for them.

besides that, listen(and if theres videos, watch) to as many music genre's and musicians u can get ur hands on. i have a 200GB external hdisk to my laptop just to store my music and it helps me alot in the creative process of coming up with ideas.

and lucky u, there will be a drum clinic end of this month!!! check out today's star newspaper! WHO IS GOING???

1. thats a subjective question. depends how fast u learn, how much hours of practice u put into it.
2. depends on what drums(and hardware) u want, and the condition of it.
3. i think they do teach. depends who the teacher is, not the institution that determines whether its good or not.

havent confirm if im going

falling for ur students is a big no no

if i am not mistaken, u can order stuff from JS Music and they'll ship to you. of course, shipping charges apply too. thats the only shop i know that does it coz my drummer buys things from them.

hope this works for you


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usual cymbals, hi hats and rides that comes with the set are usually for practicing purposes only. i dont see the point as it actually discourages practice(and is a pain to listen to). lol.

staggs cymbals u can buy those in a set or individually. those in a set comes with hi hats, ride and a crash cymbal. there are low end sets to moderate quality sets which is around rm200+ to Rm400 i think. not too sure. have to ask JS music. i would recommend u getting them individually as u get to choose what kind of sound u want. prepare around rm200-rm300+ for each. if u're around jalan imbi just go to JS and try. they'll pass u drum sticks and let u smash the cymbals to test. not smth we can usually do in music stores in malaysia.

haha. yea can test n dont buy. heck i even go tell them first i dont have money to buy and i test their amps, guitars and pedals then hang around and chit chat in the store.

kcmy, i dont have any at the moment but will try to ask around for u. my drum set is in kuching so even if i wanted to sell itll be quite hard.

Namqul, isnt PDP drums under DW???

hey there. welcome to the forum. was there watching u play at ur first gig. *cough*my fault the dawn missed soundcheck*couch*

i think the cymbals topic has already been mentioned in this thread. guess u have to start reading from page 1. haha. well, mention ur budget and the type of cymbal sound u r after.

as for skins theres aquarians, evans and remo thats good. my personal preference is aquarians but then its all about what u want. do check out aquarians bass drum batter head(the one with the rings inside).

im not sure about the price of aquarian skins since i got mine quite a while back.

sabian's and zildjian are both excellent cymbals. all comes down to the sound u want. however, alot of drummers agree quality of zildjians are going down over the years compared to good ones around the 90s.

yes, its normal for drummers to bring their own snare drum to gigs. im not sure how ur gretsch sound, but i see picolo snare being quite famous to be brought along to gigs. some just use it as their main snare(replacing ones available at gigs) or some just use them as extra snare.

awesome stuff!!!make sure u post pics once u upgraded!

i play drums too...but not pro

js music
evan skins also available there

if u take formal drum lessons(or any instruments for that matter), it also has grading system similiar to piano

nice drum set! next he needs to get a nicer ride!