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EyraYus
post Oct 26 2010, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Oct 26 2010, 07:03 PM)
Err....ok. Whats a superbike then?
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For them its only applicable to race bike. Not those on the road..for those westerners la kan
But for the fact : Its usually :

<150cc underbone : kapcai
150cc-400cc : sportsbike
400-750 : supersport
750-1000> : superbike

That is why race are always put in those categories, best example : WSBK

World Superbike Series

for our own Malaysian Super Series, there is Supersports and Superbike categories. And production bike (underbone...RXZ..Panther..)

Those Vulcan 2000 or GoldWing...are not superbike even the cc are double the superbike cc thumbup.gif
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post Oct 26 2010, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(EyraYus @ Oct 26 2010, 03:58 PM)
Even those 1000cc bike are not superbike..only Malaysian call them superbike..for Europeans/American its still a sportsbike..

If you can afford the er6n/f, dont think about the Blade. I love the v-twin sound, and thats it. Top speed is around 180. Cornering stability is awful (at least its correct for the 1st model that I test whack..which come with tuned suspension and stickier Pirellis)

Anyway, if you like the Blade design maybe you should go for the ER6n
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Ouh, i c. Humm, i like blade design bcoz it is bigger. I think er6f is quite smaller. Is it worth to buy er-6f for 35k? Or should i go usha2 other bike in that price range..
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post Oct 26 2010, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(EyraYus @ Oct 26 2010, 07:17 PM)
<150cc underbone : kapcai
150cc-400cc  : sportsbike
400-750  : supersport
750-1000>  : superbike
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I see. Understand liao! thumbup.gif
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post Oct 26 2010, 07:24 PM

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adoii..using phone make my post rsubmit so mny times. Sori2...hehe. So, i went to ban zen motor. I usha this er-6f. Thre only two color available, green n white. Why there is no black color...?
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post Oct 26 2010, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Oct 26 2010, 07:14 PM)
1300-1600cc bikes are everywhere? rclxub.gif

Some ppl say ZX10R or CBR1000RR already too powerful.....but they're not superbikes according to you guys.

Can name a few superbikes?
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both liter bikes that u mentioned are road legal race bike. under the bones, they are developed for the track & not for the road. one could hardly go above 4th gear on our traffic condition in KL so they r not meant for practical commute.

in msia , no doubt they are superbikes.
in 1st world countries, they are sportsbikes.

zx10r is rm90k-100k IICR, but in HK, it cost only rm50k+, the authorize dealer also throw in freebies like akrapovic slip-on which cost 2k+.
so to them these "superbikes" are not as special or as "super" as in msia.

1300-1600 are mostly chopper/cruiser/touring class. like honda ST, BMWs, Voyager, HD, etc. other than those, some busa & zx14 too.



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post Oct 26 2010, 07:28 PM

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better get z750..more powarrr...haha ..
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post Oct 26 2010, 07:29 PM

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I prefer to take any as long as within the budget. biggrin.gif

can modify muffler to make it sound like superbike biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by soundsyst64: Oct 26 2010, 07:30 PM
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post Oct 26 2010, 07:34 PM

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take er6f la.a lot of people said blade got too many problem+ hard to get spare parts.dont know true or not.
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post Oct 26 2010, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(yamato @ Oct 26 2010, 07:26 PM)
both liter bikes that u mentioned are road legal race bike. under the bones, they are developed for the track & not for the road. one could hardly go above 4th gear on our traffic condition in KL so they r not meant for practical commute.

in msia , no doubt they are superbikes.
in 1st world countries, they are sportsbikes.

zx10r is rm90k-100k IICR, but in HK, it cost only rm50k+, the authorize dealer also throw in freebies like akrapovic slip-on which cost 2k+.
so to them these "superbikes" are not as special or as "super" as in msia.

1300-1600 are mostly chopper/cruiser/touring class. like honda ST, BMWs, Voyager, HD, etc. other than those, some busa & zx14 too.
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ok......what bikes are considered "superbikes" in 1st world countries?
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post Oct 26 2010, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Oct 26 2010, 07:36 PM)
ok......what bikes are considered "superbikes" in 1st world countries?
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lets see how they define superbike.

this is a US site, pls look at the tabs on top where the categories are listed out in a row:

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/

so what do u think now?
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post Oct 26 2010, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(yamato @ Oct 26 2010, 08:01 PM)
lets see how they define superbike.

this is a US site, pls look at the tabs on top where the categories are listed out in a row:

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/

so what do u think now?
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I guess there's no such thing as 'superbikes' in the US.
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post Oct 26 2010, 08:19 PM

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yup, pretty much so.

the bike we call "super" are actually their sport bike.

This post has been edited by yamato: Oct 26 2010, 09:12 PM
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post Oct 26 2010, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(yamato @ Oct 26 2010, 08:19 PM)
yup, pretty much so.

the bike we call "super" are actually their sport bike.
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↲Unless they dont even supercars (F40, CGT) "supercars"

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post Oct 26 2010, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Oct 26 2010, 09:03 PM)
↲Unless they dont even supercars (F40, CGT) "supercars"
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dont get it wrong, superbike class does exist.
not all sportbikes are super, but all superbikes are actually sport.

simply put, only SBK class are considered superbike.


porsche boxster is a sportcar
F40 is a supercar
Carerra GT is a hypercar.

This post has been edited by yamato: Oct 26 2010, 09:25 PM
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post Oct 26 2010, 10:21 PM

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Guys i am planning to get a bike for cruising to work as well, ive been looking for 250cc bilkes, anything below 16k.

Naza Blade,
ORION KTM 250cc
DEMAK Cougar 250cc
DEMAX DMX - R
SYM GTS200

any other?
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QUOTE(adiez87 @ Oct 26 2010, 07:20 PM)
Ouh, i c. Humm, i like blade design bcoz it is bigger. I think er6f is quite smaller. Is it worth to buy er-6f for 35k? Or should i go usha2 other bike in that price range..
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Yeah the Blade does have a bigger fuel tank.. ER6 are small which make it nimbler and lighter compared to the Blade. Yes its worth it. But for me I`ll go for the naked ER6.

QUOTE(yamato @ Oct 26 2010, 07:26 PM)
both liter bikes that u mentioned are road legal race bike. under the bones, they are developed for the track & not for the road. one could hardly go above 4th gear on our traffic condition in KL so they r not meant for practical commute.

in msia , no doubt they are superbikes.
in 1st world countries, they are sportsbikes.

zx10r is rm90k-100k IICR, but in HK, it cost only rm50k+, the authorize dealer also throw in freebies like akrapovic slip-on which cost 2k+.
so to them these "superbikes" are not as special or as "super" as in msia.

1300-1600 are mostly chopper/cruiser/touring class. like honda ST, BMWs, Voyager, HD, etc. other than those, some busa & zx14 too.
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Yep like I said, its the way we think. Westeners call them sportsbike, we call em superbike.
But to make it easy, lets look at the local scene nod.gif

MSS have two categories, Superbike and Sportbike. Superbike for litre bike, Sportsbike for 600cc range bike, even the Duc 748 we raced as a Sportsbike.


QUOTE(daush12 @ Oct 26 2010, 07:28 PM)
better get z750..more powarrr...haha ..
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It cost a lot more bro, maybe if Kawa Malaysia decide to CKD it here..


QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Oct 26 2010, 07:29 PM)
I prefer to take any as long as within the budget. biggrin.gif

can modify muffler to make it sound like superbike biggrin.gif
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Nop you cant biggrin.gif Its still a inline two engine. I`ve heard those modded ER6 sound more like a cubprix underbone to me doh.gif


Added on October 26, 2010, 11:18 pm
QUOTE(kidmad @ Oct 26 2010, 10:21 PM)
Guys i am planning to get a bike for cruising to work as well, ive been looking for 250cc bilkes, anything below 16k.

Naza Blade,
ORION KTM 250cc
DEMAK Cougar 250cc
DEMAX DMX - R
SYM GTS200

any other?
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If you are going to use it as a relax cruiser, not really a speed demon :

I`ll say go for the Sym Evo250, the new one thumbup.gif should cost around your budget I think.

Dont ever get the Blade 250. At least the 650.
ORION KTM...
Demak (both demak)

I see you also thinking about a DP bike...but its not really comfortable for highway cruising..

Why not find a good condition XV535?

This post has been edited by EyraYus: Oct 26 2010, 11:18 PM
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post Oct 27 2010, 12:54 AM

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What is wrong with blade ? spareparts price or availability ? performance? What about the new EFI model.
Just curious cause i'm planning to get one.. smile.gif
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post Oct 27 2010, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(yamato @ Oct 26 2010, 06:11 PM)
lol so mean, later bladers come & bash u only u know  tongue.gif
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Im going to a blader soon. Maybe la.
Coz rite now im choosing the best 250 bikes.
My budget also below 20k.
Was looking on the zx2r but the problems..
Haiz.. valves too small... Canot pecut that much.
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post Oct 27 2010, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(masz94 @ Oct 27 2010, 12:54 AM)
What is wrong with blade ? spareparts price or availability ? performance? What about the new EFI model.
Just curious cause i'm planning to get one.. smile.gif
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problems with the blade vs ninja 250r
spare parts:
is not common compared to ninja
quality:
is not as good as ninja

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QUOTE(AccelTech @ Oct 27 2010, 11:25 AM)
Im going to a blader soon. Maybe la.
Coz rite now im choosing the best 250 bikes.
My budget also below 20k.
Was looking on the zx2r but the problems..
Haiz.. valves too small... Canot pecut that much.
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Like ben_panced said..

I know one Blade 250 owner who have plenty of problem with his bike.. and sparepart are harder to get.. better get the 650 if u want the Blade..

20K...how much is a Ninja 250 anyway?

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