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jasmineivan
post Jan 23 2011, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(BlueBerry~ @ Jan 22 2011, 04:34 PM)
Not really my type of keycaps. Anymore suggestions?
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Order customized double shot from GH. Vote for your preference.


Added on January 23, 2011, 1:57 pm
QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Jan 22 2011, 11:06 PM)
The only option that fir in the budget will be BlackWidowExpert. sweat.gif
If you want to import from Taiwan then Ducky 1008 will be a better option(NKRO, 4extra keys and more choice of switches). It should cost less than RM 280(incluse postage) and buy more will be cheaper.
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Include Noppoo Choc Mini as well, save space.


Added on January 23, 2011, 1:59 pm
QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Jan 22 2011, 11:50 PM)
agreed with both above.

The only keyboard that is 300 below will be Blackwidow Expert.

All Keyboard that are from foreign country are with better quality and sturdy durable exterior and interior.(no offense to Razer fans)
are mostly RM300 Above.
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True, thats why I changed all my Razer stuff. Thats true that Razer's QC is suck. Built quality not as good as most of any other.


Added on January 23, 2011, 1:59 pm
QUOTE(lucidlts @ Jan 23 2011, 01:41 AM)
i've red a review of DK-9008 on geekhack:
-Can be used as a personal defence weapon and shield

ROFL.

Anyway, anyone tried on G3000 from PLU before?
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Moogle's ducky is shield with diamond, so damn expensive.

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post Jan 24 2011, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Jan 23 2011, 08:42 PM)
Well, from what i felt, it's more like a jackpot or lottery purchase, if you're lucky, you'll get something like a very good quality keyboard without having some problem at all.
But if you're unlocky, you'll gonna go into a RMA Lottery again, praying they give you a better keyboard, or you'll gonna RMA again and again and again.

Btw, Latest News from Leopold is that The Keyboard will be arriving at Malaysia At the end of February. Might be available to you guys at March.

I'll try to contact few shop or sellers here to consider selling Leopold Keyboard...

I'll try to confirm the date and give you guys more information by that time.
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Any seller here? Or must go to the shop only can get?


Added on January 24, 2011, 8:08 pm
QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 24 2011, 12:54 AM)
Found a very interesting looking LED lighted mechanical keyboard with NKRO and cherry mx mechanical switches.

http://xenics.co.kr/shopping/product_view.htm?idx=67

http://cdmanii.com/1843
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That is back light or individual illuminating?? I saw whole thing quite bright from the 2nd link.


Added on January 24, 2011, 8:12 pm
QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jan 24 2011, 04:42 PM)
Haha the only strong point BWU have is the macro, minus it's just another Razer Marketing Product, off course it's the most affordable and available mechanical keyboard now.
It's not really expensive for something that is build to last forever (almost), just ask seller to test before deliver since the worse thing is DOA . Warranty wise mostly you would have void it with many weird mods most people here did with.
p/s: can we have LYN Mechanical Keyboard Gathering for a start? I believe it will serve as a dark hole to attract many into never ending side.
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He thinking about the possibility there to get a imperfect unit, getting a locally available product is safer to reduce this problem.


Added on January 24, 2011, 8:15 pm
QUOTE(badtooth @ Jan 24 2011, 05:13 PM)
Say I am prepared to pay the higher price for the Filco and Steelseries, and besides they are both available in the warehouse instead of Ducky1008, which should I go for?
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They are almost the same, choose based on switches preference. If you don't like Black then just go for Filco.


Added on January 24, 2011, 8:20 pm
QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 24 2011, 05:14 PM)
Same problem here.

Most people i tell about my keyboard is like, there are 5 dollar keyboards what the f.

but then again most of these people aren't that tech savy so they don't get it  doh.gif
So i guess since pc isn't such a big deal or huge part of their lives then no point trying to explain to them. You'd just put yourself in an awkward position.
The best way i justified my purchase of a vintage cherry keyboard was by linking this 775 USD ebay bid on a keyboard. Even the not so tech savy people can understand the collectible worth of some of these keyboards doh.gif

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...RK%3AMEWAX%3AIT
Pchome also does international shipping to Malaysia. Just so you know  nod.gif
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I always just tell them, there is Perodua selling Myvy when they trying to get honda, toyota or even BMW, same for me.

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post Jan 24 2011, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Jan 24 2011, 08:33 PM)
There is option for English layout also. If you are willing to spend more you can even order the blank key and wrist rest one go to maximise the 5kg postage offer(sigh last time 10kg... doh.gif )
Should be individual LED backlit. It is normal to mount LED individually on MX switch.

Buying a BWU is also as risky(even more risky doh.gif ) as import from foreign country. It was like hit or miss to get a good unit and the chance is less than 50% to hit it(good one). Somemore, i heard that Ban Leong dont allow some ''defects'' to be RMA. No meaning spend over RM300 and end up getting a kb that is even more not uniform feel than cheap rubberdome right? doh.gif

I thought filco also not available in Malaysia without import?
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Did you try the Filco or ducky leatherette wrist rest before?? if compare with original 7G wrist rest which 1 better?
Is it possible there is a small gap between the rest and keyboard even though it already stick with the keyboard?? I quite interested to get 1 superb comfortable wrist rest (comfortability always come first than spec for me)


Added on January 24, 2011, 11:08 pm
QUOTE(zandara @ Jan 24 2011, 09:15 PM)
You wont felt any rubber dome although it is defect key. It is still Mechanical keyboard.
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But i quite agree with him, since most of BWU is not perfect unit, always there the imperfection.
Just fee like not really worth to spend too much but low quality built product. (i meant Razer backlit keyboard always problematic)

If I really love the MX blue switch and Razer fan, I rather BWE since no much problem and the backlit not really necessary as well.


Added on January 24, 2011, 11:10 pm
QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Jan 24 2011, 09:31 PM)
Well, i'll try to contact if any shop is willing to carry Leopold product.(either is their local shop or their online shop)
Because i'll be "Eh hem" Leopold Keyboard Supplier in Malaysia.

If all is successful, you can easily find forumers or local shops in Malaysia to purchase the keyboard.

For Warranty issue, I'll have a discussion with them, but i think you can either claim warranty directly from me or from the shop that you purchase.

Btw, please do bear in mind that mechanical keyboard are actually very rare to have issues that needs to claim warranty. But if you guys wanted to know, RMA rate for Mechanical Keyboard, Blue Switch are the highest RMA rate between Black Brown and Blue.(because of the interior part that makes clicky sound as well as tactile bump feels.(But remember as i say before, Mechanical Keyboard Rarely Has Issues).

For People that wanted to claim Warranty, Mechanical Keyboard are actually able to repair very very fast(Depends on the Keyboard Condition).
If it's a switch issue, all that we need to do is just to replace the switch only, which is very fast process.
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Let me know if after you got the leopold in your hand (just pm me) i definitely will get 1)

No worry to funding because going to use ptptn money ^^ 10k for 1st batch , spend 1k for keyboard maybe wakaka


Added on January 24, 2011, 11:13 pm
QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 24 2011, 10:53 PM)
bt there is still ascii rite?
so any1 with paypal wanna bulk this?
there's me n iphonelover already
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Haha, initially interested but no longer, waiting for Leopold RED switch come in, that 1 more tempting, linear non-clicky with 45g, holy.

However, after get that sure post in GS to sell my 7G, only got 1 desktop, no point to use 2 keyboard.

@Cyclone
The Leopold achieve NKRO? With ps2 port or with usb to ps2 converter, or it can achieve with USB (sounds low probability)
If it cant, i considering to keep my 7G to play SDO and o2 Mania.

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post Jan 25 2011, 08:56 AM

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@cylcone

Did leopold bundled with wrist rest? Leather rest like Ducky and Filco.
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post Jan 25 2011, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(KepalaRadio @ Jan 25 2011, 01:21 PM)
Hey guys just wanna know, are there any mechanical keyboard retailers in Malaysia that sells ducky, filco or topre? Anything non SS or Razer, really.
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Nope, Filco and Leopold are coming most probably.


Added on January 25, 2011, 4:32 pm
QUOTE(BlueBerry~ @ Jan 25 2011, 01:24 PM)
Where can I get some nice keycaps?
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Search in GH, try join them to bulk order maybe.

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post Jan 25 2011, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 25 2011, 06:04 PM)
can jz go any shop and try on the razer BW...
its blue switches...
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This is also 1 reason I sure won't buy BW in LYP, so many people keep on touched and play with the arrow keys ^^ rather order from reseller in LYN.
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post Jan 25 2011, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 25 2011, 09:57 PM)
No Window key at all ^^
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post Jan 25 2011, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(nickycheong @ Jan 25 2011, 10:49 PM)
I've been using a BlackWidow Ultimate for about a week now and I have to say that it's been such a joy to use!

Don't know much about mechanical keyboards and all the different types of switches as this is the first mechanical keyboard I've used, but I just want to say that if anyone is thinking about picking up one, throw those second thought out the window! It's a solid keyboard that looks good, and best of all, sounds great whilst typing!

And hey, you're getting all of this for quite a cheap price as compared to the other mechanical keyboards on the market here. Just my two cents smile.gif
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Agree with your last sentence, other not really. It is really good while including the availability and price, otherwise BW not really good mechanical keyboard for me. (I meant the ultimate, heard quite lot of negative comment)
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post Jan 26 2011, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 26 2011, 02:20 AM)
Going to order some springs and do a ghetto cherry mx red mod :}

http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:12790


Added on January 26, 2011, 7:54 am
35 USD.

total cost was 75.50 USD with the USPS international shipping already included.

The ebay value of this keyboard is 160 USD + so it was a pretty rare and good deal for me  nod.gif
Did i mention i am ordering springs and a tool to do the ghetto cherry red mod ?
Here is a how to guide, to open up the cherry mx switches for a pcb mounted cherry keyboard.

http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:12790

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...ul_cherrymx.htm
Springs
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=13251
Early G80-1000 may have had some quirks, but these issues were ironed out after the many revisions. Sadly these revisions also cost cutted by replacing NKRO with lesser kro. That is what makes my keyboard special. It is the newer revision for the 1000 series and yet still has NKRO, and yet retains the special qualities of the old 1000 series such as the white/beige doubleshots, and an IBM model M look alike durable casing. And it's also considered rare for this particular 1000 series model is the US ansi layout. This is what makes my keyboard especially rare as you will have a hard time finding anyone else selling a quality vintage Cherry G80-1295 HAU model  wub.gif By the way mine is a 1992 model apparently according to the Cherry keyboard wiki on geekhack.

http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Dat...herry+keyboards
Here is a review between the G81 vs G80 1000 series cherry keyboards

http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Isl...hlight=g80-1000
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You going to mod your cherry or ducky?

I hope is ducky. Waiting to see a Ducky-9008 with PBT double shot and cherry mx brown switches but mx red switch (so means linear non-clicky brown ^^)
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post Jan 26 2011, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 26 2011, 11:06 AM)
Ducky i replace keycaps.

Cherry g80-1295 i only change spring doh.gif
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LOL I thought both on Ducky. But if say keep on change the key caps, the rubbing on the switch make it loosen and loosen?? (i don dare keep remove my key caps)


Added on January 26, 2011, 12:07 pm
QUOTE(OCN_fssbzz @ Jan 26 2011, 12:01 PM)
there is no PBT double shot yet.


Added on January 26, 2011, 12:04 pm
you can do the ghetto mx red.
i recommend not to do it.
because according to KBC, Cherry corp are officially releasing the cherry mx red switches this year.
you will see all kinds of keyboard vendor with cherry mx red soon.
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Paiseh i messed up the material.

So means maybe very soon there will be ducky-9008 v2 with MX red? ^^

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post Jan 26 2011, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Jan 26 2011, 12:08 PM)
its a shame i didnot view this forum 2 days ago and the 3 bulk order for mech keyboard is over =(

im interested to get one filco tho...
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LOL you missed the diamond-ish opportunity.
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post Jan 27 2011, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Jan 26 2011, 12:17 PM)
Try on it for whether you like the feeling of it(it should be very stiff to type). Sell it and get a newer model you like may be a better choice. brows.gif

Retro things should be sell to those who like retro things at a high price. rolleyes.gif

BTW, if you really want to keep it then i think LYP will sell the adapter. tongue.gif
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I don't think the adapter can be found easily.


Added on January 27, 2011, 2:04 am
QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Jan 26 2011, 05:57 PM)
Yes, the keyboard can archive NKRO under USB to PS2 converter, for USB, i still haven't tried.

Currently busy with my rig, been facing alot of problem lately. PC broken for 2 month, need to go cybercafe to use computer, Bring my Mechanical Keyboard to Cybercafe seems like a gay option, alot people keep looking at my keyboard.
Unfortunately, No, the keyboard will not be bundle with wrist rest.
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Then Leopold bring in wrist rest together?? I means sell it separately, i quite adapted and get used to the 7G wrist rest already, quite uncomfortable to use a keyboard without any wrist rest. Dou you have dimension for the keyboard? wanna try whether 7G 1 can fit in or not.


Added on January 27, 2011, 2:10 am
QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Jan 26 2011, 11:17 PM)
You mean you cant find thing like this in Malaysia? hmm.gif
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I think LYP will have it wink.gif . Besides, i have seen it at my hometown(nameless small town) and may be ''Challenger'' too?

BTW, I think we really cant find any blue cube in Malaysia. The only choice that is quite widely available is this.(LYP lots!!!)
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Blue cube is means this ps2 to usb?

The only way i can find this is in 7G box.

The 1st 1 is super rare, 5pin to ps2 is antique already, super hard to find.


Added on January 27, 2011, 2:12 am
QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Jan 27 2011, 12:24 AM)
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=PS2-to-USB+adapters

LOL according to the link above(you provided), there are some others which also function perfectly as PS/2 to USB adapter(but fugly though... doh.gif)

As for the adapter part, sadly i didn't go home this CNY doh.gif . It cost RM15(which i think the shop overcharged lots sweat.gif ) for both pin5 to PS/2 and PS/2 to USB adapter(if i am not wrong).

Edited: BTW, just noted that the most often saw one
http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachm...=1&d=1242561147
VendorID: 13ba
ProductID: 0017

- Does not support ISO Layout
- Mouse somewhat jerky
- Supports Model M hmm.gif
- Does not support second keyboard in mouse port
- Protocol issue; when holding down a key, then hitting another key, the first key is no longer sent
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That converter just suck.

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post Jan 28 2011, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Jan 27 2011, 04:46 PM)
Nope blue cube normally refer to this.
http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachm...=1&d=1252193099

Orly? Super rare antiquqe huh? brows.gif  May be next time i should buy some from my hometown and sell it at double the price, wakakaka icon_idea.gif
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The blue cube look so great, but the input and the output just like the normal converter just add another big cube in between?

O ya

@cyclone
Any news about leopold.
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post Jan 28 2011, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Jan 28 2011, 04:32 PM)
Their Quality is on Par with each other, just the internal circuit boards are different design as well as appearance.

For Tesoro M7, if i read it in other forum, it is actually a rebadged version of actual XArmor U9BL Mechanical Keyboard.
currently for now, nope, as i'm quite busy with my pc rig problem, waiting for replacement mobo to be send back to me.
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The tesoro M7 having samw board with U9BL? But can see they having same thing just some different from the casing outlook design.
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post Jan 31 2011, 07:19 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 30 2011, 10:51 PM)
lol i love this line...
though i agree if i am planning to spend that much, it better be mechanical LOL...
else i rather get some cheapo rm 20 keyboard...
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Agree that Marauder really overpriced and it is designed for those Razer fanz.

However not really all gaming keyboard overpriced, such as Logitech G510 with price about 24x and with quite completed functions. (only con, non mechanical)


Added on January 31, 2011, 7:21 am
QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Jan 30 2011, 11:19 PM)
personally, i would said is, don't claim it's overprice unless you really understand the product interior.

Try dissemble both a membrane and mechanical keyboard and see it's interior and compare between Membrane and Mechanical Keyboard. Then you'll understand what is overprice.

after you look at membrane keyboard and understand it's low cost, will you be paying RM100+ for something similar interior as RM10 Keyboard?(this is overprice because you know the interior isn't worth that much)

If you dissemble a Mechanical Keyboard, and watch all the interior hardware parts, you won't be saying it's overprice. as ones saying, don't judge a book by its cover. If you dare to say RM10 Keyboard functions the same as those RM300 Mechanical Keyboard, Please go ahead and use those RM10 keyboard, no one is forcing you to buy.

This mechanical keyboard is a privileges for comfort typing as well as a keyboard that we could depend on without concern that one day it would cause any problem or key malfunction.

These Mechanical Keyboard are mainly for industrial use(Factories uses them) because of their high durability and sturdy design. As example as Steelseries 7G Keyboard that Moogle posted the video about a Truck running over a Keyboard. This is a demonstration that mechanical keyboard can take on beating and abuse and still being perform it's functions without any problem.
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I also never notice that my 7G can withstand a truck weight ^^ lol.

Anyway, as long as the happy with the keyboard then it will worth it, no such thing as overprice if you think what you pay is worth it.


Added on January 31, 2011, 7:23 am
QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 31 2011, 12:33 AM)
from wut i've read bout it, it is 26key
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I think he said it clearly, the new batch of X4, i think MS improved the ghosting effect and made the NKRO possible, then X4 really become kings of membrane keyboard. Holy.

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post Jan 31 2011, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jan 31 2011, 08:41 AM)
NKRO is not everything concerning a keyboard, you have to take into account of other factor such as shortcut keys, durability, comfort and maybe even aesthetics.

But it's good to know Ms is putting effort in their hardware section, I just hope they have better QC (my ms mouse having very loose middle button)
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Anyway, overall, x4 still good right?


Added on January 31, 2011, 6:22 pm
QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Jan 31 2011, 10:12 AM)
I doubt that Logitech or even MS will jump over the mechanical switch.
1st, it increase the price of kb but not necessary increase the profit.
Next, i feel like those 2 big companies are too ergo to cooperate and use Cherry switch from German. May be if they want to jump into mechanical hype also probably will create their own switch... whistling.gif
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Mechanical keyboard not an easy business in Malaysia.


Added on January 31, 2011, 6:24 pm
QUOTE(OCN_fssbzz @ Jan 31 2011, 02:13 PM)
they got brown, black and blue switches.
there's an option to choose beside the add into the cart button.
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Hope there is MX red version in future.

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post Feb 6 2011, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(Butter Fry @ Feb 6 2011, 06:18 PM)
Hi all ,
I might buying a mechanical k/b after CNY
http://global.pchome.com.tw/?mod=item&func...8201&c=A10&tm=u
any suggestion for the item above or other k/b
My budget around 250
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Suggest you increase your budget to get better mechanical keyboard. About 300+


Added on February 6, 2011, 10:09 pm
QUOTE(Admir @ Feb 6 2011, 10:05 PM)
This is how much I could type in a minute

"I can't really think of a reason why I would do this, but I think it's because I'm in love with her. I love her looks, her style, her voice and her intellectuality. Other factors come into play and she also has great advantage there."

How much do you think I could improve  hmm.gif

Pardon the choice of topic blush.gif
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sweat.gif There an application so called typing challenge in Facebook. Get there and check out your WPM and can practice there

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post Feb 7 2011, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Feb 7 2011, 11:32 AM)
For roughly 200 ish (shipping already included), that deck is a good deal. Apparently the American police use it for their patrol cars o.O;

Things to be aware of though, it's 2kro and cherry mx black switches, if i'm not mistaken.
The good things about it, superior build as in the keycaps are dye sublimated /double shot hybrids, excellent led lighting, very thick sturdy casing. It has some spill proof feature as in some rubber dome coating covering the mechanical switches to prevent liquid for getting into the switches/electrical parts of the keyboard.

If you like 10 keyless, your ok with 2kro, and you don't mind cherry mx black switches, yeah i think it's pretty good deal.

I didn't bother getting one cause i'm already buying a few other things.
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The spec is similar to SS 6Gv2 other than the 2KRO. Is like another cheaper option other than Steelseries.


Added on February 7, 2011, 11:50 pm
QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Feb 7 2011, 04:54 PM)
Yea  rclxub.gif  the postsage almost = 50% of total cost
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What you expect to pay for the ship that it take from US to here? I think the shipping fee from Ebay always the flat rate.

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post Feb 17 2011, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(thomadyeoh @ Feb 15 2011, 03:23 PM)
I just got the 5pin AT to PS/2 converter yesterday in LYP
Only in Cabletron network marketing for rm6
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that should be very old stock from their store room.

Actually it should only appear in museum.


Added on February 17, 2011, 9:13 am
QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Feb 15 2011, 04:54 PM)
2-5 years may be but 10 years i cant be so sure. sweat.gif
Ever since the exist of Iphone, lots of ppl with ''touch'' fetish have being born. Almost everything must be touch touch touch doh.gif (you can see manufacturers rather put touch sensitive botton instead of hardware one...) If apple launch a blank keyboard which is fully touch input, i sure it will sell like hotcake...
The launch of Ipad directly started the falling of hardware keyboard.

Many manufacturers started to drop Netbook and go for Tablet. Netbook is forecasted to die by year 2013(may be not completely in 3rd world country wink.gif )
The next thing to go down may be notebook and lastly desktop. whistling.gif

Recent statistic shown that Smartphones' sale had overtook PC's sale...  shocking.gif   shakehead.gif (again, touch screen fetish).

Future computering will be focused on mobility/portability instead of power. Hardware keyboard will sure be dropped completely one day due to it's immobility. It will kill and force manufacturers to stop produce keyboards. And all games created will be touch based.

Maybe, keyboard will still exist in 3rd world countries and some keyboard geeks. wink.gif Future, where the past being forgotten, again...
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Touch input (especially directly on the screen) becoming the future electronic devices developing trend, and it is undeniable. The time factor is dependent on whether the manufacturer able to improve the effeciency of touch screen to the standard and speed of keyboard only.


Added on February 17, 2011, 9:17 am
QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Feb 16 2011, 06:03 PM)
Breaking news
Source:
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=15318
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Layman translation:

So what this means is, Microsoft is going to license their side winder keyboard technology to other keyboard manufacturers.

You may be asking, so whats the friggin deal.
Well here are some points

1. Microsoft's Side Winder keyboard has USB NKRO (well it's technically 17KRO but since you only have 10 fingers anyway, people won't be able to make any distinction between the 2)

2. their tech will be licensed very cheaply meaning other keyboard manufacturers are very likely to up take this tech.

3. cheap rubberdome keyboards may now have the means for 17kro + features with very little extra cost to get it. I still opt for mechanical keyboards, but most people want to first invest in other components such as CPU, graphics card, monitor etc before finally getting a fancy mechanical keyboard, so until then, a cheap rubberdome with Microsoft's side winder technology might be very good indeed for the meantime especially if you are a gamer

4. microsoft's side winder usb nkro has been proven to work both on PC and MAC as well. Other keyboard USB NKRO implementations such as Ducky G2 and Choc Mini both didn't work well on Apple MAC computers.

5. If the uptake for this technology reaches mechanical keyboard, it's good bye NKRO via USB to PS2 Adapters, and hello to USB NKRO  nod.gif

6. This will make mechanical keyboards cheaper because they won't need SMD or DIP diodes to implement NKRO. They can just use Microsoft's tech to add the NKRO (17KRO) feature cheaply.
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All these information are very useful especially for laptop user. If for those desktop user who never frequently plug and unplug their keyboard, the interface are not important as long as it works well. NKRO only 1 of the advance feature of a good keyboard, mechanical keyboard still better option for myself due to many other reasons.

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