N53JQ is about rm4k and XPS 15 is the Rm3.5k config. Which 1 to choose ? I mainly use for gaming and designing
Enquiries/Recommendations Asus N53JQ or new Dell XPS 15
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 Oct 22 2010, 08:29 AM, updated 16y ago
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Oct 22 2010, 08:32 AM
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Hi where is the link for XPS 15 in dell.com.my. I can't seem to find it?
Added on October 22, 2010, 8:34 amOk found it .LOLz  This post has been edited by Borsch Soup: Oct 22 2010, 08:34 AM |
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Oct 22 2010, 08:34 AM
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U have to click the advertisement about XPS15 at the homepage
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Oct 22 2010, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(Heroez @ Oct 22 2010, 08:34 AM) U have to click the advertisement about XPS15 at the homepage The link at the bottom, that's how I miss it. thanks.  |
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Oct 22 2010, 08:37 AM
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I guess 435M is slightly more powerful than 425M and cheaper option as well...
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Oct 22 2010, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE(eugenechiuu @ Oct 22 2010, 08:37 AM) I guess 435M is slightly more powerful than 425M and cheaper option as well... yeah.. XPS15 is worth it..better than N53JQ |
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Oct 22 2010, 08:51 AM
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I don't see any RM3.4k variant? O___O Link: http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/c...s=dhs&cs=mydhs1
TS customized the laptop isit? Yeap, as what other sifus have suggested, Dell would be better in terms of performance  But to me, the design is not that nice la, and it would be good to purchase Dell's famous warranty... and by doing that it will become more expensive le  LOL, found the price le, sorry about that  Seeing the 2GB in the "2GB NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 435M graphics" makes me drool already  This post has been edited by [PF] T.J.: Oct 22 2010, 08:53 AM |
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The XPS 15 is really worth it, rm2999 and comes with complete cover warranty
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Oct 22 2010, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Oct 22 2010, 08:54 AM) The XPS 15 is really worth it, rm2999 and comes with complete cover warranty Yeah... but 1 year only haha  If only the design is not so Inspiron-like |
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Oct 22 2010, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 22 2010, 08:55 AM) Yeah... but 1 year only haha But the price and specs and warranty is really If only the design is not so Inspiron-like compare to others  |
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Oct 22 2010, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 22 2010, 08:51 AM) I don't see any RM3.4k variant? O___O Link: http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/c...s=dhs&cs=mydhs1 2GB is overkill TS customized the laptop isit? Yeap, as what other sifus have suggested, Dell would be better in terms of performance But to me, the design is not that nice la, and it would be good to purchase Dell's famous warranty... and by doing that it will become more expensive le LOL, found the price le, sorry about that Seeing the 2GB in the "2GB NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 435M graphics" makes me drool already  but thats good... |
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Oct 22 2010, 09:39 AM
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interesting...the i5 is not compatible with the 2GB card...got pop up message saying that have to switch to 1 GB card when customize..
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Oct 22 2010, 09:42 AM
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GT 425M and GT 435M are basically the same GPU...
but take note Asus come with 2yrs int'l warranty, and Band & Olusfen audio, and of course the numpad too... |
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Oct 22 2010, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(astria @ Oct 22 2010, 09:42 AM) GT 425M and GT 435M are basically the same GPU... but take note Asus come with 2yrs int'l warranty, and Band & Olusfen audio, and of course the numpad too...  Not to mention better design  |
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Oct 22 2010, 09:51 AM
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honestly speaking the design of the new XPS is very plain...
lacks the attention seeking element in the old XPS and SXPS... especially so when compare with XPS M1730... Added on October 22, 2010, 9:53 amand when see GT 445M with 3GB VRAM, i was even GTX 460M on G53Jw has only 1.5GB... Dell is going way overboard on that... This post has been edited by astria: Oct 22 2010, 09:53 AM |
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Oct 22 2010, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 22 2010, 09:47 AM) Not to mention better design tot will be coming out with a nicer design, but end up is only as plain as inspiron.. |
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Oct 22 2010, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(astria @ Oct 22 2010, 09:51 AM) honestly speaking the design of the new XPS is very plain... And the really expensive AW or G73JH only have 1GB. lacks the attention seeking element in the old XPS and SXPS... especially so when compare with XPS M1730... Added on October 22, 2010, 9:53 amand when see GT 445M with 3GB VRAM, i was even GTX 460M on G53Jw has only 1.5GB... Dell is going way overboard on that... Do we really need that much memory? |
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Oct 22 2010, 10:57 AM
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well, it's either Dell is getting lazy on design, or they are trying very hard not to be another AW-like model... like the XPS M1730...
but i ve to say it again, it looks really like the old Asus N series... Added on October 22, 2010, 10:58 am QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Oct 22 2010, 10:57 AM) And the really expensive AW or G73JH only have 1GB. more like a case of: Do we really need that much memory? "OHH 3GB RAM!!! THAT's GONNA ROCK!!!" phail...This post has been edited by astria: Oct 22 2010, 10:58 AM |
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Oct 22 2010, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(astria @ Oct 22 2010, 10:57 AM) more like a case of: "OHH 3GB RAM!!! THAT's GONNA ROCK!!!" phail... |
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Oct 22 2010, 11:04 AM
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not that many ppl would know anyway...
though i really would prefer they cut the memory and reduce the price... even rm100 would be good... |
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Oct 22 2010, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(astria @ Oct 22 2010, 11:04 AM) not that many ppl would know anyway... True, 3GB is overkill for now.though i really would prefer they cut the memory and reduce the price... even rm100 would be good... |
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Oct 22 2010, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Oct 22 2010, 11:16 AM) True, 3GB is overkill for now. it sound sweet enough to make customer fall for it tho |
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Oct 22 2010, 12:39 PM
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Ok guys let's say I buy the rm2999 plain vanilla version, is it worth? I am really attracted to the better build quality and JBL subwoofer usually is only available on rm4000 machine right?
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Oct 22 2010, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Oct 22 2010, 12:39 PM) Ok guys let's say I buy the rm2999 plain vanilla version, is it worth? I am really attracted to the better build quality and JBL subwoofer usually is only available on rm4000 machine right? considering the next closest is Lenovo Y460, yes i think it's worth for the hardware u get... at least u ve 1 more inch of monitor size... |
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Oct 22 2010, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(astria @ Oct 22 2010, 12:41 PM) considering the next closest is Lenovo Y460, yes i think it's worth for the hardware u get... at least u ve 1 more inch of monitor size... Right. That's what i was thinking, previous lappy with subwoofers need rm 4000 and above, this XPS 15 is considered good value |
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Oct 22 2010, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Oct 22 2010, 12:39 PM) Ok guys let's say I buy the rm2999 plain vanilla version, is it worth? I am really attracted to the better build quality and JBL subwoofer usually is only available on rm4000 machine right? why not? sound and look pretty good to me.but someone claimed JBL subwoofer is not really quality. i don't know about that too, but maybe you could be the first owner of XPS 15 in LYN later  |
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Oct 22 2010, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Oct 22 2010, 12:52 PM) why not? sound and look pretty good to me. i thought laptop speakers are never good to start with??? but someone claimed JBL subwoofer is not really quality. i don't know about that too, but maybe you could be the first owner of XPS 15 in LYN later |
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Oct 22 2010, 12:59 PM
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maybe the rating is among "never good" level of speaker...
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Oct 22 2010, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Oct 22 2010, 12:52 PM) why not? sound and look pretty good to me. Need to wait for 1st white mouse to buy first. but someone claimed JBL subwoofer is not really quality. i don't know about that too, but maybe you could be the first owner of XPS 15 in LYN later QUOTE(astria @ Oct 22 2010, 12:53 PM) i thought laptop speakers are never good to start with??? The shop I bought my lappy from tell me lappy with subwoofer is really good and better than stereo speakers on normal lappy. |
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Oct 22 2010, 01:03 PM
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XPS15 is good, i would buy it if i have no laptop right now, plus some customization as well,
+backlit keyboard +9-cell battery +warranty for 2 years. |
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Oct 22 2010, 01:31 PM
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Erhm new xps.
I would choose Studio XPS 16 rather than XPS15. The price almost the same with same specs. But Studio XPS 16 has a better + attractive look. And also ATI5730 has a higher rank than GT435 in mobile GPU ranking. The memory size 1 GB already enough for gaming. 2GB or 3 GB no sense at all. ATI5870 with 1GB memory can pawn 99 GT435 with 2GB memory. |
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Oct 22 2010, 01:34 PM
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Ok does that means that XPS 15 is only worth to get at rm2999 version and don't upgrade anything or totally not worth at all? TQ.
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Oct 22 2010, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Oct 22 2010, 01:34 PM) Ok does that means that XPS 15 is only worth to get at rm2999 version and don't upgrade anything or totally not worth at all? TQ. maybe up the monitor to Full HD also...u can always scale down in games... GT 425M is already good enuf... there's is always the option to OC... |
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Oct 22 2010, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(astria @ Oct 22 2010, 04:14 PM) maybe up the monitor to Full HD also... Will be waiting for Dell to update the online manual, really curious the internal arrangements. Maybe got 2 fans CPU + GPU inside can OC 99 u can always scale down in games... GT 425M is already good enuf... there's is always the option to OC... |
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Oct 22 2010, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Oct 22 2010, 04:25 PM) Will be waiting for Dell to update the online manual, really curious the internal arrangements. Maybe got 2 fans CPU + GPU inside can OC 99 dun hold too much hope... NV cards are hot to start with... |
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Oct 22 2010, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(astria @ Oct 22 2010, 04:29 PM) dun hold too much hope... NV cards are hot to start with... Asus team up with Bang & Olufsen, Lenovo and Dell team with JBL, why Acer no team with anyone? Next from Acer rm2499 with subwoofer |
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Oct 22 2010, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Oct 22 2010, 04:35 PM) Asus team up with Bang & Olufsen, Lenovo and Dell team with JBL, why Acer no team with anyone? Next from Acer rm2499 with subwoofer perhaps that's y they are cheap??? |
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Oct 22 2010, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(astria @ Oct 22 2010, 04:35 PM) perhaps that's y they are cheap??? These days it has become possible to include Speakers + Subwoofer inside 15" chasis, maybe next year become inside 14" as well |
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Oct 22 2010, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Oct 22 2010, 04:25 PM) Will be waiting for Dell to update the online manual, really curious the internal arrangements. Maybe got 2 fans CPU + GPU inside can OC 99 2 fans would need 2 ventilation? |
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Oct 22 2010, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Oct 22 2010, 04:48 PM) These days it has become possible to include Speakers + Subwoofer inside 15" chasis, maybe next year become inside 14" as well erm... Lenovo Ideapad Y510 already has that... |
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Oct 22 2010, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Oct 22 2010, 04:25 PM) Will be waiting for Dell to update the online manual, really curious the internal arrangements. Maybe got 2 fans CPU + GPU inside can OC 99 I doubt you can get 2 fans on XPS 15. |
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Oct 22 2010, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Oct 22 2010, 04:50 PM) I doubt you can get 2 fans on XPS 15. well, Acer did that in 3820TG... |
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Oct 22 2010, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ Oct 22 2010, 04:48 PM) 2 fans would need 2 ventilation? So sifu, do you think is possible?QUOTE(astria @ Oct 22 2010, 04:49 PM) erm... Lenovo Ideapad Y510 already has that... Right QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Oct 22 2010, 04:50 PM) I doubt you can get 2 fans on XPS 15. Right also |
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Oct 22 2010, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(astria @ Oct 22 2010, 04:51 PM) well, Acer did that in 3820TG... There's HP Envy 14 as well QUOTE(Borsch Soup @ Oct 22 2010, 04:52 PM) So sifu, do you think is possible? Don't think it possible..It would seems inefficient if using 2 fan with 1 vent only.. This post has been edited by lee_what2004: Oct 22 2010, 04:56 PM |
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Oct 22 2010, 07:24 PM
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HP Envy 14 review shows better temperature management than the previous versions of Envy, but still their vents are kind of small - like Mac
XPS is good for anyone who is satisfied with GT420M or wants full-powered i7. For me, i7 is not full=powered, just fully-heated, and it's too bad there is no Optimus for GT 435M. Waiting for AMD 6000s 1GB/2GB doesn't matter |
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Oct 27 2010, 02:42 PM
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unboxing:
[attachmentid=1854988][attachmentid=1854990][attachmentid=1854991][attachmentid=1854993][attachmentid=1854994][attachmentid=1854995][attachmentid=1854996][attachmentid=1854999] |
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Oct 27 2010, 02:58 PM
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That's fast? how long did you wait for the order?
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Oct 27 2010, 03:17 PM
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its alot erm... fatter than i thought it would be... especially the lid.
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Oct 27 2010, 03:18 PM
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@djlah
Nice machine you have there! How much did you buy it? Perhaps you can put some benchmarks on gaming? and the ambient temp as well. |
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Oct 27 2010, 03:21 PM
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djlah nice one
kindly give some review for it k? |
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Oct 27 2010, 04:44 PM
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lol... from far looks like my Asus N81V...
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Oct 27 2010, 04:48 PM
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djlah did u order it online? what are the additional stuff that u added on to the stock version and the overall price?
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Oct 27 2010, 05:11 PM
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i would think the n53JQ would be better..overall design n53jq is nicer..i only like xps 15 for it's exterior..if only the interior *keyboard area* aren't so inspiron looks..then agen..speakers..JBL vs Bang&Olufsen..B&O is wayyyy better than JBL..personal opinion i guess
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Oct 27 2010, 06:23 PM
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Dell does have better warranty, but Lenovo warranty is cheaper.
JBL is not too magnificent. It's probably like any other speaker but with a name to it. If you made a laptop and put Edifier or Creative on it, it would be kind of the same thing, except I would like Creative or Edifier more than JBL. |
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Oct 27 2010, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(viruz019 @ Oct 27 2010, 05:11 PM) i would think the n53JQ would be better..overall design n53jq is nicer..i only like xps 15 for it's exterior..if only the interior *keyboard area* aren't so inspiron looks..then agen..speakers..JBL vs Bang&Olufsen..B&O is wayyyy better than JBL..personal opinion i guess i personally prefer the n53jq, definitely looks sturdier and classier. however isnt specs more important than looks cause dats what ur relying on. and if we add those custom designer looks on the dell it would be around the same price not too sure if it covers the keyboard part though.not to mention with rm500 difference we can add backlit keyboard, 9cell battery etc..the gt435 gpu is killing me @-@ for the speakers...dont most ppl use headphones or external speakers anyway? yes i hate dell for the price now..but then dell have better warranty..or shud i say the best in malaysia? =D |
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Oct 27 2010, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(djlah @ Oct 27 2010, 02:42 PM) unboxing: Wow bro, that's fast, online or retail unit? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Oct 27 2010, 08:31 PM
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The new XPS looks nice.
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Oct 27 2010, 08:49 PM
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wow nice ! any reviews for us djlah ?
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Oct 28 2010, 02:08 PM
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yes djlah~~ Please give comment on ur new toy~~ if the XPS 15 is worth to buy, i will like to have one unit for myself soon.. =)
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Oct 28 2010, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(makubexong @ Oct 28 2010, 02:08 PM) yes djlah~~ Please give comment on ur new toy~~ if the XPS 15 is worth to buy, i will like to have one unit for myself soon.. =) Key features:1. HDMI 1.4 port 2. NVIDIA 435M, with Forceware 260.xx: support HD Audio Bitstream (haven't try this yet 3. Super Fast USB 3.0 4. dedicated key hardware control to disable touchpad 5. total 20W Great JBL 2.1 speakers with WAVE sound enhancement 5. eSATA + Powered USB 6. Solid Chassis Design 7. Intel WiMax 2-in-1 wireless card 8. touch screen with 4 inputs (compare to most of notebook market available only 2) 9. Bluetooth 3.0 Main disadvantages: 1. thermal air vent out on the left, is better if can design at the back. 3. no vga port. 3. dunno yet.... optional items such as GPS and TV Tuner but I don't have... dunno good or not... |
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Oct 28 2010, 04:10 PM
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So, yours come with touch screen?
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Oct 28 2010, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(djlah @ Oct 28 2010, 04:08 PM) Key features: How about the price? And also why your order came so fast? Ordered online? 1. HDMI 1.4 port 2. NVIDIA 435M, with Forceware 260.xx: support HD Audio Bitstream (haven't try this yet 3. Super Fast USB 3.0 4. dedicated key hardware control to disable touchpad 5. total 20W Great JBL 2.1 speakers with WAVE sound enhancement 5. eSATA + Powered USB 6. Solid Chassis Design 7. Intel WiMax 2-in-1 wireless card 8. touch screen with 4 inputs (compare to most of notebook market available only 2) 9. Bluetooth 3.0 Main disadvantages: 1. thermal air vent out on the left, is better if can design at the back. 3. no vga port. 3. dunno yet.... optional items such as GPS and TV Tuner but I don't have... dunno good or not... |
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Oct 28 2010, 05:00 PM
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how is the temperature? reach how many Celsius when gaming and normal usage?
will hot ma the laptop? |
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Oct 29 2010, 12:20 AM
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no VGA port means not output display??
Hmm....that's not really good... |
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Oct 29 2010, 12:22 AM
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Holy crap that is fast. It barely just went on.
Please comment, temperature screenshots if possible. |
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Oct 29 2010, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(alister88 @ Oct 29 2010, 12:20 AM) no VGA port means not output display?? replaced by as mentioned in 1st feature: HDMI 1.4 port and mini-DisplayPort.Hmm....that's not really good... |
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Oct 29 2010, 10:50 AM
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so how's the overall performance?
good? =) |
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Oct 29 2010, 11:36 AM
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Spec: [attachmentid=1858248] [attachmentid=1858249] [attachmentid=1858251] Performance: [attachmentid=1858253] Idle: [attachmentid=1858254] Load: [attachmentid=1858255] overall, temp is around 72-79. very satisfied. |
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Oct 29 2010, 01:30 PM
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great! thanks for the review!
I think Im gonna get one.. nice choice... =) |
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Oct 29 2010, 02:01 PM
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Wow brilliant review and temps dj. Assuming they were like taken in the middle of a 2 hour thing.
Oh just noticed CPU Z read i7-740 as i7-840 or the other way round lol. Added on October 29, 2010, 11:37 pmIt looks like the Idle temps you have are post-testing Idle temps, which are good since they are low. Mind telling us what sort of load you put, for how long, to get 79C on the GPU? This post has been edited by LightningFist: Oct 29 2010, 11:37 PM |
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Oct 30 2010, 04:06 PM
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new review on XPS 15 but the spec is i5 and geforce gt420m. was hoping for i7 with gt435m review~
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/dell-xps-15.aspx |
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Oct 30 2010, 04:24 PM
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Well djlah can provide us with a i7 with GT435M review
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Oct 30 2010, 04:48 PM
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mmm for RM3499
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Oct 30 2010, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(djlah @ Oct 29 2010, 11:36 AM) Spec: looks like u upgraded the memory to 8gb. is the upgrade from the online order and is it dual channel? whats the layout of the rams?[attachmentid=1858248] [attachmentid=1858249] [attachmentid=1858251] Performance: [attachmentid=1858253] Idle: [attachmentid=1858254] Load: [attachmentid=1858255] overall, temp is around 72-79. very satisfied. This post has been edited by metaloid: Oct 30 2010, 07:33 PM |
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XPS 15 seems lk a great deal.... gonna get one soon...=)
somehow many r suggesting lenovo Y460...wondering why....dilemma  This post has been edited by Casperwinde: Oct 30 2010, 08:45 PM |
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Oct 30 2010, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(Casperwinde @ Oct 30 2010, 08:44 PM) XPS 15 seems lk a great deal.... gonna get one soon...=) it's 14" vs 15"... take ur pick...somehow many r suggesting lenovo Y460...wondering why....dilemma |
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Oct 30 2010, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(astria @ Oct 30 2010, 09:38 PM) it's 14" vs 15"... take ur pick... correction, 14'' and 15.6" 1.6" extra.. haha |
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Oct 31 2010, 12:33 AM
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If im not mistaken..there is no numpad keys for XPS 15 right??
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Oct 31 2010, 12:40 AM
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No..
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Oct 31 2010, 02:28 AM
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QUOTE(astria @ Oct 30 2010, 09:38 PM) it's 14" vs 15"... take ur pick... den i guess XPS cons is its looks....dull Added on October 31, 2010, 2:37 am QUOTE(alister88 @ Oct 30 2010, 11:48 PM) correction, 14'' and 15.6" yeah~ 1.6" extra.. haha  js lenovo's design is good this XPS... This post has been edited by Casperwinde: Oct 31 2010, 02:37 AM |
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Oct 31 2010, 10:49 AM
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LOL if you really believe Ideapad looks better than XPS then that is One good reason to buy an Ideapad I guess.
Layout of RAM should be either 4x2 or 2x4 or 2x2 + 1x4. I heard XPS 17 has 4 slots, so not sure about XPS 15. |
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Oct 31 2010, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(alister88 @ Oct 30 2010, 11:48 PM) correction, 14'' and 15.6" 14 vs 15.6", the only concern is the resolution, 1366x768 on 15.6" will be sucks1.6" extra.. haha |
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Oct 31 2010, 02:06 PM
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new XPS 15: memory: this is system is using Intel HM57 Express Chipset, so is DD3. for more detail about memory/channel, google it, it's standard. resolution: beside 1366x768, there is 1920x1080 offer too soon, no worried. just like previous Studio, Studio XPS. |
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Oct 31 2010, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(djlah @ Oct 28 2010, 04:08 PM) Key features: ... 8. touch screen with 4 inputs (compare to most of notebook market available only 2)  Touch screen or touch pad? And how do we make used of the 4 inputs? |
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Oct 31 2010, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(djlah @ Oct 31 2010, 02:06 PM) new XPS 15: Really? Then i tink i shud wait for the 1920x 1080 edition....memory: this is system is using Intel HM57 Express Chipset, so is DD3. for more detail about memory/channel, google it, it's standard. resolution: beside 1366x768, there is 1920x1080 offer too soon, no worried. just like previous Studio, Studio XPS. Added on October 31, 2010, 3:42 pm QUOTE(LightningFist @ Oct 31 2010, 10:49 AM) LOL if you really believe Ideapad looks better than XPS then that is One good reason to buy an Ideapad I guess. haha...i judge the outlooks by the pics on net...nvr c da real one yet...Layout of RAM should be either 4x2 or 2x4 or 2x2 + 1x4. I heard XPS 17 has 4 slots, so not sure about XPS 15. This post has been edited by Casperwinde: Oct 31 2010, 03:42 PM |
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Oct 31 2010, 08:04 PM
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SXPS 16 is RGBLED, not B+RGLED...
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Oct 31 2010, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Oct 31 2010, 08:02 PM) LOL i thought the Full HD version of XPS15 is being available since the 1st day it come to Malaysia? depends on who using.... http://configure.ap.dell.com/dellstore/con...s=dhs&cs=mydhs1 It is in the configuration option at just RM411(which is cheaper than upgrading XPS16 to 16'' B+RGLED) If i have to buy XPS 15 i will upgrade the screen to Full HD first then only consider other part. 720P on 15.6'' is just. if say it's my old man who will be the one using, of course 720p... |
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Oct 31 2010, 09:36 PM
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Of course B+RGLED is cheaper it's not the same as RGBLED
But only 1600x900 on XPS 17 (though not available here) and only Optimus with GT 420M. Still waiting for Dell to change their options. |
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Nov 1 2010, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Oct 31 2010, 08:02 PM) LOL i thought the Full HD version of XPS15 is being available since the 1st day it come to Malaysia? o yeah~ got it.... adding a more RM411 already exceed my budget... http://configure.ap.dell.com/dellstore/con...s=dhs&cs=mydhs1 It is in the configuration option at just RM411(which is cheaper than upgrading XPS16 to 16'' B+RGLED) If i have to buy XPS 15 i will upgrade the screen to Full HD first then only consider other part. 720P on 15.6'' is just. i will stay with the most basic one ba |
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Nov 1 2010, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(CzarXVII @ Oct 31 2010, 12:33 AM) If im not mistaken..there is no numpad keys for XPS 15 right?? another design flaw of the XPS..means happy news for me |
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Nov 1 2010, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(metaloid @ Nov 1 2010, 11:04 AM) another design flaw of the XPS..means happy news for me it's not exactly a design flaw...for me, i don't mind not having numpad  |
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Nov 1 2010, 02:53 PM
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The average 15 inch laptop does not have a numpad. It's not a flaw. Only some like Sager/Asus/MSI/Toshiba have it on <16 inch laptops, but they weight a heap too.
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Nov 1 2010, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Nov 1 2010, 02:53 PM) The average 15 inch laptop does not have a numpad. It's not a flaw. Only some like Sager/Asus/MSI/Toshiba have it on <16 inch laptops, but they weight a heap too. actually more like the trend is to ve numpad on 15.6" laptops...Dell is one of the few who doesn't have it... |
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Nov 1 2010, 03:01 PM
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just wondering GT335 vs GT425 which 1 would be better?
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Nov 1 2010, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(putochip123 @ Nov 1 2010, 03:01 PM) just wondering GT335 vs GT425 which 1 would be better? on paper GT 425M > GT 335Mbut in reality, GT 335M is ahead of GT 425M... wondering wat the hell is Nvidia doing... |
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Nov 1 2010, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(astria @ Nov 1 2010, 03:08 PM) on paper GT 425M > GT 335M which means GT335 is worth to get compare to GT425? im sure GT435 will better than GT335.but in reality, GT 335M is ahead of GT 425M... wondering wat the hell is Nvidia doing... But 3 of them improvement is minor only right, GT4xx which support DX11 and Direct compute 5.0 right? |
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Nov 1 2010, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(putochip123 @ Nov 1 2010, 03:18 PM) which means GT335 is worth to get compare to GT425? im sure GT435 will better than GT335. and Fermi architecture... which is suppose to be better in GPGPU...But 3 of them improvement is minor only right, GT4xx which support DX11 and Direct compute 5.0 right? i am starting to wonder if improvements in the 400M family can only be seen in GPGPU but not gaming... |
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Nov 1 2010, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(MIVECburuk @ Nov 1 2010, 11:31 AM) it's not exactly a design flaw...for me, i don't mind not having numpad It depends, some people prefer to have num pad.It's great for keying in lots of numbers in Excel. |
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Nov 1 2010, 03:51 PM
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Does anyone know if the Dell XPS uses DDR3 or GDDR3 memory?
The specs says DDR3 on Dell's website, but Dell is not sure themselves. |
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Nov 1 2010, 04:51 PM
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RGBLED is better
B+RGLED is WLED with better colour gamut, but still lower than RGBLED... |
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Nov 1 2010, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Nov 1 2010, 04:50 PM) LOL what is the different? Which one better or more quality? RGB LED is over saturated, somebody like it, somebody doesnt like it(i dont like) |
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Nov 1 2010, 09:09 PM
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XPS 15's screen will be equal to or slightly better than the standard SXPS 16's.
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Nov 2 2010, 03:22 PM
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I've got a dilemma on which options to chose and i hope you guys out there could help me. My main purpose of gettin the new xps is for basic usage, sum basic gaming and multimedia entertainment. I've come up to the decision to get the XPS 15 with the i7 ... so heres my dilemma:
1) I want to get the higher resolution (1920x1980) but it is pretty expensive, so is it worth it? 2) The 3 year warranty seems a good option judgin as this is a new product by dell and its reliability is still a question mark... so should i take the 3 years warranty or chose the basic 1 year warranty and chose the higher resolution screen instead? 3) I've read certain reviews highlighted in this forum saying tat the basic 6 cell batt only last very shortly... wats your suggestion? 4) Is the blu ray dvd important for future use? I hope u'll can give me your opinions... thanks... |
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Nov 2 2010, 03:39 PM
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Not everybody wants 1080p. If you want it, RM411.
Warranty is better, but expensive. 6 Cell IS very very short for i7 quad. The same battery will give you 4/5 hours with a Core 2 Duo (low clock), it's the i7 quad that is the problem. Do you move around a lot? If you move around a lot, 9 cell adds time but adds weight (kind of conflicting). Do you use Blu Ray? In the future most media will be digital/online, no longer physical. |
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Nov 2 2010, 04:18 PM
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if limited budget, for me. I will cut down prc to i5. reason: most of game not really able to utility quad core. unless you're doing video rendering or converting big video. I will ignore blu-ray drive. 4xx+299 budget and top up little bit to get 3years warranty is highly recommended. this is xps, if inspiron i might forgot it.
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QUOTE(djlah @ Nov 2 2010, 04:18 PM) if limited budget, for me. I will cut down prc to i5. reason: most of game not really able to utility quad core. unless you're doing video rendering or converting big video. I will ignore blu-ray drive. 4xx+299 budget and top up little bit to get 3years warranty is highly recommended. this is xps, if inspiron i might forgot it. djlah.. ur xps 15 is run i5 or i7? so far got any bad comments on it? let say if i use the laptop for photo editing softwares, autocad software, surf net, movie, will the i5 laptop capable to run smooth? because something i open photoshop, lightroom , and few web pages,.. my laptop will lag abit.. i dont really gaming, just sometime play dota wif frens... if i pick xps15, i should take 3 years warranty or, extend annually? the 3 years warranty is abit expensive.. |
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Nov 3 2010, 03:15 AM
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QUOTE(makubexong @ Nov 2 2010, 11:55 PM) djlah.. ur xps 15 is run i5 or i7? so far got any bad comments on it? if u dont do 3D stuff but multitask photoshop, lightroom and webpages i5 should be fine but i7 would be even better for these sort of tasks.let say if i use the laptop for photo editing softwares, autocad software, surf net, movie, will the i5 laptop capable to run smooth? because something i open photoshop, lightroom , and few web pages,.. my laptop will lag abit.. i dont really gaming, just sometime play dota wif frens... if i pick xps15, i should take 3 years warranty or, extend annually? the 3 years warranty is abit expensive.. |
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Nov 3 2010, 07:17 AM
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QUOTE(makubexong @ Nov 2 2010, 11:55 PM) djlah.. ur xps 15 is run i5 or i7? so far got any bad comments on it? if you buy the extend warranty afterward, more more expensive than when you buy system together.let say if i use the laptop for photo editing softwares, autocad software, surf net, movie, will the i5 laptop capable to run smooth? because something i open photoshop, lightroom , and few web pages,.. my laptop will lag abit.. i dont really gaming, just sometime play dota wif frens... if i pick xps15, i should take 3 years warranty or, extend annually? the 3 years warranty is abit expensive.. |
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Nov 3 2010, 07:21 AM
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QUOTE(metaloid @ Nov 3 2010, 03:15 AM) if u dont do 3D stuff but multitask photoshop, lightroom and webpages i5 should be fine but i7 would be even better for these sort of tasks. in another word, depends on how deep ur pocket is... |
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QUOTE(Merovingian2 @ Nov 2 2010, 03:22 PM) I've got a dilemma on which options to chose and i hope you guys out there could help me. My main purpose of gettin the new xps is for basic usage, sum basic gaming and multimedia entertainment. I've come up to the decision to get the XPS 15 with the i7 ... so heres my dilemma: 1. i would ask u to go for 1080P(Full HD)1) I want to get the higher resolution (1920x1980) but it is pretty expensive, so is it worth it? 2) The 3 year warranty seems a good option judgin as this is a new product by dell and its reliability is still a question mark... so should i take the 3 years warranty or chose the basic 1 year warranty and chose the higher resolution screen instead? 3) I've read certain reviews highlighted in this forum saying tat the basic 6 cell batt only last very shortly... wats your suggestion? 4) Is the blu ray dvd important for future use? I hope u'll can give me your opinions... thanks... 2. Warranty is upgradeable in the future, which u cost u slightly higher, but maybe in the future u are thinking of changing d, so i think 1 years is ur choice. 3. 6Cell basically will serve u around 2-3 hours(Core i5/Core i3), Core i7 will approximately 2 hours ++ 4. Blue ray isnt needed la, wanna watch movie, go buy Blue Ray PLayer, laptop blue ray is too sucks for blue ray |
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Nov 3 2010, 11:56 AM
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Yes, Blu Ray in a laptop kind of sucks, it may also lag (my systems did).
Warranty, get 3 years, but I'm not sure what the difference is between the RM599 and RM876 versions. 2 Hours with Core i7 quad is possible on full charge, turn down brightness, don't use Wifi unnecessarily. Most people with i7 quad will be plugged in. 9 Cell adds time but adds weight. |
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Nov 3 2010, 07:06 PM
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Guys ok it has come down to me getting an offer from the Dell guys with the specs below:
Dell XPS 15 with Intel Core i7 package with add-on of a 9-cell battery,backlit keyboard and 3 years warranty for RM4199... So I need your advice and suggestions whether this is a good offer or I should consider another laptop around that price range with better specs than this?Please don't hold back on your suggestions... give me as many as you guys can or want... Thanks... |
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Nov 3 2010, 07:10 PM
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for sth close it's, again, Asus N53Jq...
rm200 cheaper, but u get GT 425M and no Full HD monitor... This post has been edited by astria: Nov 3 2010, 07:10 PM |
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Nov 3 2010, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(astria @ Nov 3 2010, 07:10 PM) for sth close it's, again, Asus N53Jq... Full HD is not a must for mid end GCrm200 cheaper, but u get GT 425M and no Full HD monitor... |
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Nov 3 2010, 07:24 PM
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well, depends on him...
i think it's good to ve, makes quite a lot of difference if u need lots of working space, or loves to watch Full HD movies... also there's Dell Studio XPS 16 as well... no quad core though... |
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Nov 3 2010, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE(astria @ Nov 3 2010, 07:24 PM) well, depends on him... but i able to get quad core ^^i think it's good to ve, makes quite a lot of difference if u need lots of working space, or loves to watch Full HD movies... also there's Dell Studio XPS 16 as well... no quad core though... |
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Nov 3 2010, 07:27 PM
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lol, i talking abt the normal way of buying la...
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Nov 3 2010, 07:39 PM
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Well mero that's not much of a discount if they gave you the minimal 3 year warranty (XPS Premier, RM599), hence not a great deal.
That is assuming you don't have the B+RGLED and/or Blu Ray drive. Nevertheless it was a slightly good package initially (prior to adding the warranty and keyboard and battery), and it seems cheap because it only comes with stock 1 year warranty. I would not buy it unless I wanted a Core i7 quad, or unless a better discount/deal was given. At this specs, no deal. |
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Nov 3 2010, 10:27 PM
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Well, im in a dilemma of tis XPS or all-in-one pc.... >.<
their price and specs are nt a huge diff..... |
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Nov 3 2010, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(Casperwinde @ Nov 3 2010, 10:27 PM) Well, im in a dilemma of tis XPS or all-in-one pc.... >.< getting a pc is definitely cheaper for the same specs and u can easily upgrade it without needing to change the whole thing. Most importantly is whether u need to bring it out or move around alot.their price and specs are nt a huge diff..... |
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Nov 4 2010, 12:29 AM
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Anyone got any idea how much extra does the 9-cell battery weight? and does it bulge out at the back or downwards? oh and another thing.... how come i've been reading a few other topics regarding the processor and quite a few ppl prefer the Core i5 over the i7? wouldn't it be better in the long run to get a higher grade processor assuming that technology is advancing pretty fast and by the time you know it i5 will be old skool...??wats ur opinion??
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It bulges down, only a little bit. Weight, you can check Dell's website.
Many people want i7 quad because they think its "power" will benefit them. I think the opportunity cost is battery life (if you're mobile often), heat, and power, as well as performance in normal use. "wouldn't it be better in the long run to get a higher grade processor assuming that technology is advancing pretty fast" yeah that's what I thought but trust me the current Core i7 quads are not that advanced. Sure, they have turbo, but it only turbos to 2.53GHz etc for two or less cores, it can only work the four cores together at the base speed (very low, 1.6GHz or 1.73 GHz for 720/740QM). Besides, if you think the current Core i7 quads will be able to last long, they actually were sold before these Core i5s. Apart from turbo, i5s are not that much of an improvement over Core 2 Duos with high clock (plus they have greater cache, lower TDP, etc). If you ask me Intel is not "advancing" very well. Mostly we get i5 or i7 because they are new. |
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Nov 4 2010, 07:28 AM
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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Nov 4 2010, 01:00 AM) It bulges down, only a little bit. Weight, you can check Dell's website. the Core i dual core actually ve less cache compared to Core 2 Duo...Many people want i7 quad because they think its "power" will benefit them. I think the opportunity cost is battery life (if you're mobile often), heat, and power, as well as performance in normal use. "wouldn't it be better in the long run to get a higher grade processor assuming that technology is advancing pretty fast" yeah that's what I thought but trust me the current Core i7 quads are not that advanced. Sure, they have turbo, but it only turbos to 2.53GHz etc for two or less cores, it can only work the four cores together at the base speed (very low, 1.6GHz or 1.73 GHz for 720/740QM). Besides, if you think the current Core i7 quads will be able to last long, they actually were sold before these Core i5s. Apart from turbo, i5s are not that much of an improvement over Core 2 Duos with high clock (plus they have greater cache, lower TDP, etc). If you ask me Intel is not "advancing" very well. Mostly we get i5 or i7 because they are new. T/P9000 family has 6MB L2 cache, while 600M has 4MB L3 cache... but, cache is not a big deal for the Core/Nehalem architecture... 3-4MB is the sweet spot... we get Nehalem becuz that's the only choice that Intel provides... and not many makers are interested with AMD K10... |
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Nov 4 2010, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Nov 4 2010, 01:00 AM) It bulges down, only a little bit. Weight, you can check Dell's website. +1, most of the people think that i7 have many cores which is better, but they are wrong, if really wan go for I7, 620M/640M/820M/840M/920XM/940XM/ is the only choice for mobile Core i7, there 720/740 is away too low clock, in most of the game, Core i5 take advantages, but slowly now many game support multicore rendering for gaming.Many people want i7 quad because they think its "power" will benefit them. I think the opportunity cost is battery life (if you're mobile often), heat, and power, as well as performance in normal use. "wouldn't it be better in the long run to get a higher grade processor assuming that technology is advancing pretty fast" yeah that's what I thought but trust me the current Core i7 quads are not that advanced. Sure, they have turbo, but it only turbos to 2.53GHz etc for two or less cores, it can only work the four cores together at the base speed (very low, 1.6GHz or 1.73 GHz for 720/740QM). Besides, if you think the current Core i7 quads will be able to last long, they actually were sold before these Core i5s. Apart from turbo, i5s are not that much of an improvement over Core 2 Duos with high clock (plus they have greater cache, lower TDP, etc). If you ask me Intel is not "advancing" very well. Mostly we get i5 or i7 because they are new. On the other hand, Core i7 + Core i5 in gaming experience, u wont feel any advantages since gaming mostly depends on GPU, even games are highly demand for CPU, u also cant see the differences between i5/i7.... |
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So are you sayin that i should chose the i5 over the i7???im really confused now...lolz... never knew it would b this complicated... so if it was you guys u would take the i5 rather then the i7??
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Nov 4 2010, 12:53 PM
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i5 is more than enough...
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QUOTE(Merovingian2 @ Nov 4 2010, 12:49 PM) So are you sayin that i should chose the i5 over the i7???im really confused now...lolz... never knew it would b this complicated... so if it was you guys u would take the i5 rather then the i7?? put it this way...in gaming benchmark, 620M pwns 720QM... but in programs like Office, AES encryption, etc, it's vice versa.. so decide base on ur main usage... |
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QUOTE(Merovingian2 @ Nov 4 2010, 12:49 PM) So are you sayin that i should chose the i5 over the i7???im really confused now...lolz... never knew it would b this complicated... so if it was you guys u would take the i5 rather then the i7?? if i were u, i would go for i7(if the price is good enough), since it wont be too slow compare to other, if it is slow u wont notice that. |
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In gaming, you won't feel the difference, so you would want to choose it depending on whether you are a CPU-intensive user. If you only do typical things, i5 would save power and be a little faster (most important thing would be the Hard drive and the GPU). Basically a high frequency Core 2 Duo would do the job (but this is as of now very rare).
But, Dell (and Asus) have somehow been offered some sort of deal by Intel, it seems. I think Intel did not learn from their initial sale of the i7-720QM (Sept 2009) and they overproduced i7-740QM or something - so now buying 740QM is relatively cheaper than lower or higher i5s, even though all the i5s should be cheaper (according to Intel). If you buy Dell you get a better deal overall because i7 comes with better graphics, more RAM, other add-ons. But like I said that deal you showed us is not much of a deal, maybe RM~100 discount, at RM4100+, some say it is reasonable, I say you're being forced to get i7 with the good GPU, unless you do not mind getting i7. |
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Nov 4 2010, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Nov 4 2010, 02:38 PM) In gaming, you won't feel the difference, so you would want to choose it depending on whether you are a CPU-intensive user. If you only do typical things, i5 would save power and be a little faster (most important thing would be the Hard drive and the GPU). Basically a high frequency Core 2 Duo would do the job (but this is as of now very rare). +1, but sometime it is high frequency, but u dont really see the different in real worldBut, Dell (and Asus) have somehow been offered some sort of deal by Intel, it seems. I think Intel did not learn from their initial sale of the i7-720QM (Sept 2009) and they overproduced i7-740QM or something - so now buying 740QM is relatively cheaper than lower or higher i5s, even though all the i5s should be cheaper (according to Intel). If you buy Dell you get a better deal overall because i7 comes with better graphics, more RAM, other add-ons. But like I said that deal you showed us is not much of a deal, maybe RM~100 discount, at RM4100+, some say it is reasonable, I say you're being forced to get i7 with the good GPU, unless you do not mind getting i7. |
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Nov 4 2010, 04:58 PM
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But guys on the Dell customization for XPS i5 version, it doesn't alllow to customize the graphics card to the 435m.... it only allows 420m which with my little knowledge is lower in most benchmarking websites compared to the 435m ..... and when i add the same specs as the i7 the things tat i get in the i7 package is more... so my next question would be.... would i be right to say if i get the i7 version atleast i would be sure not to be anywhere less "better" then the i5 versions rite?it can't be worse in anyway if not better except for the heating problem la...rite??
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Nov 4 2010, 05:23 PM
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^Yup...
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Nov 4 2010, 06:02 PM
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Pretty much. If you desperately need a laptop now, yes, the i7 "package" has more value.
See if you can get a price reduction. Which 3 year warranty are you buying, the RM599 (3yr XPS +1 CC), RM699 (3yr XPS +3 CC), or RM876 (Dell Care Prem)? |
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Nov 4 2010, 08:27 PM
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The one tat they included in the price is the 699 wan...do any of you know any tricks of gettin these dell guys to give better discounts or better offers...??
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Nov 4 2010, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(Merovingian2 @ Nov 4 2010, 04:58 PM) But guys on the Dell customization for XPS i5 version, it doesn't alllow to customize the graphics card to the 435m.... it only allows 420m which with my little knowledge is lower in most benchmarking websites compared to the 435m ..... and when i add the same specs as the i7 the things tat i get in the i7 package is more... so my next question would be.... would i be right to say if i get the i7 version atleast i would be sure not to be anywhere less "better" then the i5 versions rite?it can't be worse in anyway if not better except for the heating problem la...rite?? Go for i7 dont care about the heat , nowadays no more overheat issue d. Wont burn ur system 1. |
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Nov 7 2010, 07:35 PM
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i go for i5 one ~ ^^ hopefully it dun hav such prob....
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Nov 10 2010, 10:18 PM
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Hei i read a few forums, some of the guys said the OPTIMUS technology only is for the i5 version and is not in the i7 version... is that true?
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Nov 10 2010, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(Merovingian2 @ Nov 10 2010, 10:18 PM) Hei i read a few forums, some of the guys said the OPTIMUS technology only is for the i5 version and is not in the i7 version... is that true? Yeap, according to astria sifu |
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Nov 10 2010, 10:37 PM
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Because i7 doesn't have intel GPU onboard
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Nov 11 2010, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE(Merovingian2 @ Nov 10 2010, 10:18 PM) Hei i read a few forums, some of the guys said the OPTIMUS technology only is for the i5 version and is not in the i7 version... is that true? technically, only quad core CPU cannot ve Optimus...Core i7-600M family can still ve it... this is one of the reason y i avoid simply calling Intel's CPU by their i-name... there are many dual core i7 around... This post has been edited by astria: Nov 11 2010, 12:12 AM |
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Nov 11 2010, 12:40 AM
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what about built quality?
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Nov 11 2010, 01:40 AM
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So why the hell did they even advertise the OPTIMUS technology if it is not included in the freaking laptop!.... damn stupid rite.... and on top of that the i7 is the only one that comes with the 435m... so obviously its gonna be a better bang for the buck option rite... so without OPTIMUS the battery life will be less la i suppose....
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Nov 11 2010, 02:53 AM
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QUOTE(Merovingian2 @ Nov 11 2010, 01:40 AM) So why the hell did they even advertise the OPTIMUS technology if it is not included in the freaking laptop!.... damn stupid rite.... and on top of that the i7 is the only one that comes with the 435m... so obviously its gonna be a better bang for the buck option rite... so without OPTIMUS the battery life will be less la i suppose.... They do include it, just that its only for i5 + GT420M... |
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Nov 11 2010, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(Merovingian2 @ Nov 11 2010, 01:40 AM) So why the hell did they even advertise the OPTIMUS technology if it is not included in the freaking laptop!.... damn stupid rite.... and on top of that the i7 is the only one that comes with the 435m... so obviously its gonna be a better bang for the buck option rite... so without OPTIMUS the battery life will be less la i suppose.... I remembered last time there's also such an issue on the N82Jv/Jq They even got the price wrong |
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Nov 11 2010, 02:51 PM
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Well Mero this is why a ton of us have not ordered the XPS.
Even in AnandTech's extremely poor (in quality) review of the new XPS 15 (which is ok I suppose), they mentioned this (that you cannot order i5 + 435) because you still can't do so the world over. |
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Nov 11 2010, 02:54 PM
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well, Dell Australia solves the problem by providing only quad core...
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Nov 12 2010, 01:40 AM
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Hahahah.... yea man they should have just done that here... to prevent all the headache man.... and unnecessary confusion...
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Nov 12 2010, 02:10 AM
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Not really, especially for those aiming for Optimus or less heat...
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Nov 12 2010, 02:29 AM
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QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Nov 12 2010, 02:00 AM) This is more appropriate. haha What do you mean people will gladly take i7? Quite the opposite, actually. BTW, it is truth that if they i5 as option, ppl will just gladly take i7...  People will gladly take i5s if it is not set at an obscene price (e.g. SXPS 16) because they are only offering slow i7s. i7 quads are more powerful in some situations, but the advantages of i5s in most situations outnumber that of i7 quads. Now, if you had i7 extreme, that'd be different. i7 quad 720-840 just aren't worth the heat and temperature. People elsewhere may be getting low idle temps because it is the colder month now in some countries. If it rained everyday in MY you could have 5-10C cooler laptops too. I am really hoping that a new product will be released soon, or at the very least the current XPS laptops will have their hardware replaced (think Sandy Bridge, AMD 6xxx or beyond, but information is limited and the manufacturers are very obscure). Dell did put new GPUs in their products but they have been so unkind in options (no XPS 17 in many countries, no i5 in some places, no i5 + 435 option, a lot of other nos). Maybe this is a sign that something good is on the ready, or at least around a very big corner. |
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Nov 12 2010, 11:51 PM
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hmmm....here alot saying tat rather take i5 for gaming and daily usage purpose.....
anyway, the package offered by dell now is not bad i guess? i7+ 435GT for js adding RM500.... |
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Nov 13 2010, 02:41 AM
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From what I had heard and gathered so far, i5 or even a dual-core i7 is still better than any of entry level Intel quad core. Simply because that most of the games now run on dual core, even the most CPU intensive games like Starcraft 2, and not to mention that its a lot cooler as well. IMO, entry level quad core is just overrated.
P.S: Darn it, how I hope my 5943G comes with i7-620m like what it stated in the net rather than this i7-720qm. |
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Nov 13 2010, 11:59 AM
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Well... im waiting for my i7 to arrive at my doorstep... and then ill inform you guys how its been... ive heard a lot of negative comments regarding the i7... i hope it is not as dissapointin as it sounds...
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Nov 13 2010, 12:22 PM
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wat lappy isit?? XPS?
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Nov 13 2010, 12:43 PM
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yea the xps 15 wif i7 and i added a 9cell and 3 years warranty just incase...quite pricy but is not as pricy if i extended the warranty later on... and, with that, the guy added on a backlight and 3 years McAfee... which is nuthin much but still sum "keuntungan" la... lolz... oh n he reduced the price by rm200++ aswell...
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Nov 13 2010, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(Merovingian2 @ Nov 13 2010, 12:43 PM) yea the xps 15 wif i7 and i added a 9cell and 3 years warranty just incase...quite pricy but is not as pricy if i extended the warranty later on... and, with that, the guy added on a backlight and 3 years McAfee... which is nuthin much but still sum "keuntungan" la... lolz... oh n he reduced the price by rm200++ aswell... who u dealing with?? still gt free backlit keyboard and 3yrs McAfeee and RM200++ price reduced too bad i bought it frm dell website...which price seem firm  |
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Nov 13 2010, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(Merovingian2 @ Nov 13 2010, 12:43 PM) yea the xps 15 wif i7 and i added a 9cell and 3 years warranty just incase...quite pricy but is not as pricy if i extended the warranty later on... and, with that, the guy added on a backlight and 3 years McAfee... which is nuthin much but still sum "keuntungan" la... lolz... oh n he reduced the price by rm200++ aswell... but i tot the latest xps unit only available online purchase? how much is ur xps? |
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Nov 13 2010, 03:01 PM
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So mero he revised the price then?
After 9 cell, backlit, 3yrs warranty, what's the final price? |
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Nov 13 2010, 03:07 PM
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Actually i bought it through the call centre.... Mine is RM4199 for all that... i really had to push the call centre guy to get me this deal... i thought the upgrade of the 9 cell and warranty was essential cause as it is the i7 consumes more battery and it doesnt have OPTIMUS so the 6cell is not gonna last very long and the 3 year warranty i put in cause damn scared if anythin happens down the line... the keyboard backlight + McAfee 3 years are free..and i would like to correct bout the RM200 discount actually i was mistaken, as if, i add those earlier things then it is a discount la... but without its not...
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Nov 13 2010, 03:20 PM
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the 3yrs warranty is essential if wan to purchase the XPS to use for long term....
but dell XPS extend warranty damn exp la....totally exceed my budget >.< so sad.... |
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Nov 13 2010, 03:50 PM
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Warranty is extra important.
My old Dell laptop (shipped July 04, used since Jan 05) just ~died, and I realised warranty was only till 07. But of course, a new laptop must at the very least have 2 yrs on it. My new Dell desktop had a year on it (but it had multiple problems on the first day/week itself). Sometimes they are assembled in haste and this is usually the cause. With mass production, their quality control is reasonable, and perhaps I was unlucky. Tell us more about your laptop when it arrives With 3 years, you're safe if anything happens. People do sometimes get their Studio XPS 1645/47s or M1530s and M1730s replaced by Alienwares. The less-savvy customer may get a Studio 17. |
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Nov 13 2010, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(Merovingian2 @ Nov 13 2010, 03:07 PM) Actually i bought it through the call centre.... Mine is RM4199 for all that... i really had to push the call centre guy to get me this deal... i thought the upgrade of the 9 cell and warranty was essential cause as it is the i7 consumes more battery and it doesnt have OPTIMUS so the 6cell is not gonna last very long and the 3 year warranty i put in cause damn scared if anythin happens down the line... the keyboard backlight + McAfee 3 years are free..and i would like to correct bout the RM200 discount actually i was mistaken, as if, i add those earlier things then it is a discount la... but without its not... ic~ i din know order throught call centre can bargain the price le.. maybe i can try it out.. hehe..but yesterday one of my fren tell me about this info.. Dell XPS 15 ( i7-740QM, 2gb GT 435M , 4GB Ram, 640GB, 3 years complete cover warranty) RM3349 im doubt abt that, how he able to found out this deal.. i asked him, still waiting his reply.. |
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Nov 13 2010, 03:54 PM
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That's quite unbelievable, nearly RM1000 discount. Impossible.
Warranty is 699, starting base price is 3499. 640GB upgrade costs too. |
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Nov 13 2010, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Nov 13 2010, 03:54 PM) That's quite unbelievable, nearly RM1000 discount. Impossible. ya~ u also think impossible right.. so, i try to figure out where he find abt tat.. haha..Warranty is 699, starting base price is 3499. 640GB upgrade costs too. |
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Nov 13 2010, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Nov 13 2010, 03:50 PM) Warranty is extra important. ic...i tot dell QC is more assured and to be rely with.... My old Dell laptop (shipped July 04, used since Jan 05) just ~died, and I realised warranty was only till 07. But of course, a new laptop must at the very least have 2 yrs on it. My new Dell desktop had a year on it (but it had multiple problems on the first day/week itself). Sometimes they are assembled in haste and this is usually the cause. With mass production, their quality control is reasonable, and perhaps I was unlucky. Tell us more about your laptop when it arrives With 3 years, you're safe if anything happens. People do sometimes get their Studio XPS 1645/47s or M1530s and M1730s replaced by Alienwares. The less-savvy customer may get a Studio 17.  i tink i will c hw's my laptop condition den js decide to extend it onot.... sure i will tell but thr is 1 -2 person ere mayb gt their XPS earlier than me....haha |
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Nov 13 2010, 04:32 PM
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The XPS 15 comes with a 640 gb harddisk Lightning Fist
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Nov 13 2010, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(makubexong @ Nov 13 2010, 03:52 PM) ic~ i din know order throught call centre can bargain the price le.. maybe i can try it out.. hehe.. new model released, new unit, its almost impossible. lol.but yesterday one of my fren tell me about this info.. Dell XPS 15 ( i7-740QM, 2gb GT 435M , 4GB Ram, 640GB, 3 years complete cover warranty) RM3349 im doubt abt that, how he able to found out this deal.. i asked him, still waiting his reply.. |
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Nov 13 2010, 05:39 PM
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Yeah, my bad, only i5/420 is with 500GB. Too bad they removed 750GB, extra space, plus high density HDD.
That is one hell of a deal, only possible in the US (or other countries with promotions). Over here you'll never see that for a new system. |
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Nov 13 2010, 05:54 PM
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Damn man... Msia deals bad shape la... u know in the UK they even had a 30min deal for the XPS 15 i7 version... cost oni $499 ...which is about RM2500++... :-(
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Nov 13 2010, 06:29 PM
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Yes, I heard about the 500 pound deal, it was crazy good
Kinda translates into a 4000 ringgit deal for Dell MY >.< In the US they get new deals and discounts everyday, while in the UK the deals are similarly dynamic. Over here the deals are static for months (look at Studio XPS). |
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Nov 17 2010, 11:32 AM
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Ya...but UK thy dun hav backlit keyboard option =)
i read frm foreign forum one... |
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Nov 17 2010, 01:29 PM
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They will, they just ran out. It was planned.
But, I believe this batch was just a "filler", and we will see new versions in a couple months time. Hopefully. |
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Nov 17 2010, 08:12 PM
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dell totally don care about us Malaysian.... i ordered before those ppl in US and UK (27th Oct) but they got their xps already.. now my EDD is 6th Dec!..
sumore no discount coupon, no nothing.. wut the hell dell??!! |
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Nov 17 2010, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(neo_himura @ Nov 17 2010, 08:12 PM) dell totally don care about us Malaysian.... i ordered before those ppl in US and UK (27th Oct) but they got their xps already.. now my EDD is 6th Dec!.. bt heard frm another thread thr is othr pple who gt it in 13days ad.... sumore no discount coupon, no nothing.. wut the hell dell??!! wondering why we r left bhind so far....due to the backlit keyboard? |
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Nov 17 2010, 09:05 PM
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I guess Malaysia is quite slow when it comes to new technology...
Just got back from digital mall and lowyat plaza... no signs of any Dell XPS14 and 15... Maybe they are still too new to be available... But there's no signs of a single N43Jq/53Jq as well... which is kind of shocking since they were released quite a long time ago |
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Nov 17 2010, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Nov 17 2010, 09:22 PM) Seriously, Dell Malaysia is definitely lacking of choice and lower down their own sale only... i think nt cos of small market...maybe is market demand Last time, no Inspiron or Studio 17. Somemore, i waited for Dell Streak(an Android phone) for 1 whole years already also no news. It will be no doubt that the newly launched Venue Pro(WP7 phone) will never reach Malaysia. If they launch as the price as in Dell US, SGS and HTC will have no chance to compete at all.  Is that they ignore Malaysia because of small market/demand or what?  many msian will js rush for the "trend" iphone 4.... the hype |
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Nov 17 2010, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Nov 17 2010, 09:31 PM) LOL then Inspiron or Studio 17? LOl....well...hp envy 17?? Although there is no much ppl like 17'' out there but at least if they provide it here, they will certainly dominate the 17'' market in Malaysia(now only Vostro 3700 ).i guess is due to 17" in Msia is still nt a trend? or profit low.... js my guess |
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Nov 17 2010, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(Casperwinde @ Nov 17 2010, 09:25 PM) many msian will js rush for the "trend" iphone 4.... haha. i agree with tht the hype when it comes to technology, we malaysians only get the leftovers from those western countries.. n they sell it with higher price! if they thing the market here is small, its better they don sell/promote here at all.. rather than making us wait for it and disappoint us... it sucks man~~  |
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Nov 17 2010, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(neo_himura @ Nov 17 2010, 09:38 PM) haha. i agree with tht but somehow luckily we r still being left bhind nt by a thousand miles ahead....unlike car industry when it comes to technology, we malaysians only get the leftovers from those western countries.. n they sell it with higher price! if they thing the market here is small, its better they don sell/promote here at all.. rather than making us wait for it and disappoint us... it sucks man~~  erm..one q out of the XPS topic... is our laptop pc being charged by tax? cos whn i made payment to my XPS 15 i saw the govt tax is 0.... due to the PM new budget plan? |
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Nov 17 2010, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(Casperwinde @ Nov 17 2010, 09:47 PM) but somehow luckily we r still being left bhind nt by a thousand miles ahead....unlike car industry haha.. car industry~~~ another sad story erm..one q out of the XPS topic... is our laptop pc being charged by tax? cos whn i made payment to my XPS 15 i saw the govt tax is 0.... due to the PM new budget plan? i saw the 0 gov tax oso.. i tot it was always like tht one~ i guess its new.. haha |
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Nov 17 2010, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(Casperwinde @ Nov 17 2010, 09:36 PM) LOl....well...hp envy 17?? Malaysians are shorter and smaller compared to them guys in US haha... 17 inchers will be too heavy and large for us... which probably explains why they aren't that popular i guess is due to 17" in Msia is still nt a trend? or profit low.... js my guess I was wondering why Malaysia is so slow as well.... seems like the guys in Garage Sales are the fastest LOL |
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Nov 17 2010, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Nov 17 2010, 10:00 PM) Malaysians are shorter and smaller compared to them guys in US haha... 17 inchers will be too heavy and large for us... which probably explains why they aren't that popular maybe u r right... I was wondering why Malaysia is so slow as well.... seems like the guys in Garage Sales are the fastest LOL somehow one hav to started it to bring in 17" and get well response im also tempted for 17"laptop too as i 1 week only bring my laptop once.... Added on November 17, 2010, 10:18 pmcar industry left bhind alot compared v IT industry...i guess it maybe due to the domination by few brands only? hmm..i dono....so im askin...=P....cos 1st time buy a laptop via on9 This post has been edited by Casperwinde: Nov 17 2010, 10:18 PM |
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Nov 18 2010, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(neo_himura @ Nov 17 2010, 09:38 PM) haha. i agree with tht not really. If you browse the laptop market in uk, most of them are still on outdated specs, intel celeron, SIS mirage graphic cards. And these are the basic laptops (the RM2k range) Also in UK there's a VAT tax, so its more expensive than malaysia for the same laptop. when it comes to technology, we malaysians only get the leftovers from those western countries.. n they sell it with higher price! if they thing the market here is small, its better they don sell/promote here at all.. rather than making us wait for it and disappoint us... it sucks man~~ Malaysia is not bad already, its america that will get all the items. |
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Nov 18 2010, 01:00 AM
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Yes.. The laptop selections in Malaysia is still much better and cheaper than over here in London lol... Stop complaining guys.. UK is like much bigger than us but their laptops are even more outdated and have weird specs lol.. I see lots of 3gb ram lappies for some reason.. Not even dual channel ><.. And around 500-600 the most u can get is only i3 processor at most.. Netbooks are much more expensive too.. Think again before complaining lar.. Such a small country like Malaysia, our electronics business are quite advanced dy..
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Nov 18 2010, 03:50 AM
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It is much more worse in Germany as the price is sky high compared to Malaysia.
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Nov 18 2010, 07:09 AM
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same here in Australia...
for the price of a Asus N53Jf here, u can get a N53Jq in Malaysia... |
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Nov 18 2010, 11:39 AM
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The price in Australia is overpriced too.
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Nov 18 2010, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(DoubleU @ Nov 18 2010, 12:36 AM) not really. If you browse the laptop market in uk, most of them are still on outdated specs, intel celeron, SIS mirage graphic cards. And these are the basic laptops (the RM2k range) Also in UK there's a VAT tax, so its more expensive than malaysia for the same laptop. i guess if u wan to be up to date in technology, then order from US~~ with high delivery cost~~ Malaysia is not bad already, its america that will get all the items. |
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Nov 18 2010, 01:43 PM
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Elite
14,813 posts Joined: Nov 2006
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Still cheaper than the one offered in MY even after calculating shippings
example, try see Asus G73JH... This post has been edited by lee_what2004: Nov 18 2010, 01:43 PM |
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Nov 18 2010, 01:45 PM
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Junior Member
86 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sabah
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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ Nov 18 2010, 01:43 PM) Still cheaper than the one offered in MY even after calculating shippings ya lo.. i guess it depends on wut u order oso... aish~~example, try see Asus G73JH... |
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Nov 18 2010, 02:10 PM
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Senior Member
1,661 posts Joined: Apr 2009
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QUOTE(neo_himura @ Nov 18 2010, 01:45 PM) ya lo.. i guess it depends on wut u order oso... aish~~ +1  |
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Nov 18 2010, 02:42 PM
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Senior Member
2,708 posts Joined: Oct 2008 From: Johor Bahru
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so bottomline? America > Malaysia/Singapore > europe + australia
haha... i wonder how laptops are in taiwan... or japan... |
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Nov 18 2010, 03:53 PM
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Junior Member
86 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sabah
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QUOTE(DoubleU @ Nov 18 2010, 02:42 PM) so bottomline? America > Malaysia/Singapore > europe + australia i think singapore > malaysiahaha... i wonder how laptops are in taiwan... or japan... japan is in a different level.. i think~~ |
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Nov 18 2010, 08:01 PM
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Senior Member
2,909 posts Joined: Jul 2009 From: London, United Kingdom or Kota Kinabalu, Sabah
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You're forgetting HK.. definitely cheaper than Malaysia by a lot since their stuffs are tax free...
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Nov 18 2010, 11:32 PM
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VIP
3,965 posts Joined: Apr 2009
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United States beats all, period.
Malaysia is viewed by some as "affordable" like some people view Thailand, but seriously products here cost RM1500-2000+ more than the US version for some expensive laptops... |
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Nov 19 2010, 12:04 AM
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Junior Member
303 posts Joined: Nov 2009
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in the end, i tink msia is nt bad ...cos at least it wasnt being left bhind for a thousand miles in IT ｉｎｄｕｓｔｒｙ....
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Nov 19 2010, 12:15 AM
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Junior Member
303 posts Joined: Nov 2009
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QUOTE(Iphone4Lover @ Nov 19 2010, 12:11 AM) I want Dell Streak!!!! go to dell international fb page request...  dun go to dell msia....dell msia fb page seem lk nvr reply pple's wall |
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Nov 19 2010, 12:45 AM
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Junior Member
190 posts Joined: Mar 2008
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what would u guys recommend if i wanna do 3d rendering using 3ds max? the i5 or i7? quad core got significant improvement? i thought of getting the dell xps 15, and not those nvidia quadro cos i wanna be able to play games too,... or any other system to recommend?
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Nov 19 2010, 12:53 AM
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Newbie
1 posts Joined: Nov 2010
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I would get the XPS15.
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Nov 19 2010, 01:03 AM
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Junior Member
190 posts Joined: Mar 2008
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ya.. but i7 or i5? priority is 3d rendering.. i've read the previous posts they say i5 faster ? or is that just for games?
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Nov 19 2010, 01:05 AM
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Elite
14,813 posts Joined: Nov 2006
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i7 is faster if your apps can utilize all the 4 cores and 8 thread...
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Nov 19 2010, 04:30 AM
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Senior Member
5,367 posts Joined: Aug 2009
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3D rendering software mostly support HTT.
i7 is for you. |
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