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 Nokia N900 V7 (More than 150 owners), Made by Nokia,Powered by Community

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jananan
post Oct 30 2010, 10:49 PM

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end of my hdd.... boot sector damaged... cannot create a new mbr... cannot load grub...

have to boot from usb and load the hdd partition...

damn...


Added on October 30, 2010, 10:55 pmmeego 1.2 netbook also not bad...

kinda fast on a core2duo processor... brows.gif i mean really fast...

almost complete i would say...

but it does not ship ready to use...

a pity, no support for ntfs or any other filesystem. cry.gif

also does not ship with any codecs whatsoever... cry.gif

they're trying to maintain 100% open source i guess...

better not to be tied down by some distribution license shit... and cannot ship to certain countries and stuff like that...

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jananan
post Oct 31 2010, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Oct 31 2010, 02:30 PM)
so after step 10 ill turn off n boot again continue with step 11.

alright. thx!

btw reflashing with sim or without sim doesnt affect the sim right?
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just dont put -R when you flash fiasco image. it wont boot up.

then flash vanilla emmc immediately.

no need to plug out cable or plug out battery.


Added on October 31, 2010, 7:30 pmhttp://build.chromium.org/f/chromium/snapshots/

chromium on x86 win32 and linux getting better and faster... brows.gif

there is source code for arm as well...

but no compiled version...

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post Nov 1 2010, 06:02 PM

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in Penang, if you simply walk in to any (i mean all) computer shops and ask for class 6 memory card... they will just say...


"huh ? class ? apa itu ? all same la. "
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post Nov 1 2010, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(ccgenius @ Nov 1 2010, 08:44 PM)
seems like some get lesser batt life o.o
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the trick is to flash both fiasco and emmc using flasher tool.

when you run the FOTA update using app manager, some leftovers from PR1.2 might still be there and causing battery drain.
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post Nov 1 2010, 09:21 PM

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anyone know how to totally disable the proximity sensor ?

you can disable the proximity data being read by tweaking the mce.ini

but how do you entirely switch it off ?

the sensor is always on when the screen is on.

you can check it out by using another camera phone to see the proximity sensor in action when the n900 screen is active.

its freaking irritating, the IR on the proximity sensor blinks on and off all the time...


Added on November 1, 2010, 9:25 pmif you cant get nitdroid to work....

http://maemo.org/packages/view/an-droid-icons/

use with theme-customizer


Added on November 1, 2010, 9:54 pm/sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/proximity/disable

i set the file to 1

but the proximity sensor is still receiving power...


Added on November 1, 2010, 9:56 pmhttps://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7070

its a bug...

'disable' does not stay disabled.

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jananan
post Nov 1 2010, 10:41 PM

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what the...
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post Nov 1 2010, 10:57 PM

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http://gizmodo.com/5678323/how-the-ipad-ch...r-old-boys-life

for gods sake... he would have been able to do the same with any laptop....

the pad is full of magic allright....


Added on November 1, 2010, 11:00 pm
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Nov 1 2010, 10:53 PM)
This one? You can try compare with N900, and also other phone you have. Try with different brightness settings.

See how nice it look in your PC...
[attachmentid=1863782]
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the photos has the words 'lowyat.net' at the bottom

adding stuff and re-saving the photo might have degraded the quality.

where is the original photo ?

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post Nov 1 2010, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Nov 1 2010, 11:01 PM)
Thank god that Stephen Hawking haven't endorsed iPad yet.
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these people are acting as if there was no touchscreen devices or tablets or netbook or laptops before the iphone / ipad came out.


Added on November 1, 2010, 11:04 pmhttp://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/vlc-developer-claims-app-store-infringing-vlc-license/

finally, some good news for you super_evil_alien

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post Nov 1 2010, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Nov 1 2010, 11:08 PM)
i think my phone also have the problem. on my n900 the stars are not visible but on the n8 i can see stars and noise is tat it?
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the photo has noise for sure. some sort of white noise !

just that the AMOLED can really highlight all the noise in there.

because the backlighting technique used in AMODLED is different from convetional LCD.

i am pretty sure the 5,000,000 contrast ratio LED monitors would display the noise as well.
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post Nov 1 2010, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Nov 1 2010, 11:15 PM)
On the Super AMOLED, it's displaying perfectly fine.
On the N8, under bright daylight, the sensors adjusted the backlight or something and the picture shows fine. But when in room lighting, the problem become obvious.
Well, on the PC it's showing perfectly fine as well, the background blend nicely, no stars.

Anyway, this picture is obvious; Other pictures it's harder to see even I capture it with other camera, it's hard to see.
When I use my N8 to capture something black, then the shadow area, it will look like it didn't blend properly, I don't know how to explain, but the pictures I took, I saw these problem, but when transfer to the PC or N900, no such problem.


Added on November 1, 2010, 11:16 pm

Yup, we're not suppose to see the stars; But if you adjust the N900 brightness to maximum, you can see it but not very obvious.
Your N8, when set to lowest brightness settings, is it visible?
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you see,

on n900 and other conventional LCD screens, the backlight is coming from the sides. hence the contrast sucks.

on AMOLED, there is no backlighting, the actual pixels light up. and when the image has white noise, all the noise-related 'pixels' light up.

they have difficulty in controlling the combined effect of the lighted up noise-related pixels.

on normal LCD, since the light source is from the side, its pretty washed out and you can make out those tiny white dots (noise)


Added on November 1, 2010, 11:22 pmfor example, on the N8 time screen saver.

the digital clock.

you can see the letters / digits that show time is very bright but the entire background is really dark (entirely black).

how they do this ? OLED, AMOLED, super duper AMOLEDs have light source in each pixel.

they can turn on some pixels and turn off some pixels, hence one pixel is very bright but the pixel next to it is totally off (dark)


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post Nov 2 2010, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Nov 1 2010, 11:48 PM)
Suppose if contrast sucks, then the display should be worst? But on N900, it looks FINE, even the videos, the colour blending is smooth. But on N8, it's not.

Besides, I tested side by side with Super AMOLED on the Samsung Wave, the Super AMOLED is showing FINE on any brightness.

Anyway, here's an example on how bad it looks on video under poor lighting.

The TRON trailer...
[attachmentid=1863927]

See how bad this video looks...
[attachmentid=1863930]


Added on November 1, 2010, 11:53 pm

It only affect dark area of the pictures or videos, and obvious in low ligthing. It doesn't affect the photo quality, so it's just the display, and when output to TV, it looks FINE.

Not really a big problem, but if it's a problem, I hope it to be fixed of course. If the AMOLED is like this, then nothing can be done.
If it's the brightness/contrast settings in firmware, then maybe it can be fixed in firmware update.
Anyway, I just want to find solution and fix this problem (if the AMOLED isnt like this; which means, something is wrong). If nothing is wrong with the AMOLED or display or hardware, then cannot do anything. Only can inform Nokia so they don't get from this supplier anymore? Or they can check out this problem when they source for new display?

Right now, I have no idea whether it's the display, or the sensors, or the settings in firmware, etc. Unless we have an app that can adjust those parameters, then we can do more thorough test.
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from the photos it looks more like video encoding artifacts.

it happens when gray-darkgray-black tones get mixed up.

maybe the color gradation of the AMOLED screen.

on a normal LCD TV, it will translate all those dark-gray areas into black as well.

usually low bitrate MKV will have those kinda artifacts.
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post Nov 2 2010, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Nov 2 2010, 12:36 AM)
He is not comparing what LCD TV or N900 or watever encoding. What he is testing is Nokia N8 vs Nokia N8 same video also look different on the same model of phone
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if N8 vs N8 then i guess its really display issue....

the video is 100% same ? not re-encoded ?
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post Nov 2 2010, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Nov 2 2010, 12:57 AM)
The TRON video is original provided by Nokia; It's showing perfectly fine when output to HD TV. It doesn't matter which video, as long it has dark area or blending dark to other colours. Even pictures I snap have problems displayed on N8, but showing perfectly FINE on the PC, N900, etc.

I suspect it's something to do with the brightness/contrast/light-sensor because..... when I'm outdoor or inside the car during daytime, everything looks PERFECT. The moon picture I posted previous, you can't see any stars at all. The video all looks superb/great. But when go indoor, especially room with poor lighting... THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING  tongue.gif

That's why I suspect it's something to do with the brightness/contrast/light-sensor.
Other N8 maybe have this problem too, but maybe not as obvious as mine? I'm not sure because I only do short comparison/test. Or maybe it's like the processor, every unit is slightly different and might is more bright/etc? No idea.
Anyway, in daytime/outdoor, it's good; only when I'm inside the house, room especially, it's bad. Some other forummer also notice same issue as me, so I'm thinking it might be the same on other N8 as well.
Hope it's the brightness/contrast issue which can be fixed in firmware?


Added on November 2, 2010, 1:01 am

The video come default with the device. There're other video I tested, those dark movies are worst because many dark areas. Imagine those people wearing like MIB, those black clothings, it's bad...

Anyway, previously I have compare the video side by side to the Customer Service in NCC, mine is more obvious. At least that's what we tested and shown. Maybe my unit is slightly brighter or the light sensor isn't working "properly". If I cover the light sensor, the display will actually become dimmer and so the quality become better.
The best is under during daytime, everything looks just fine.
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i'll try with my friend's N8 when i meet him...
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post Nov 2 2010, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Nov 2 2010, 07:50 PM)
Update on the microSD card,
It's got lifetime warranty.

Whoever wants it PM me.If there is more people maybe I can negotiate for better price.
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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/734588

i think this guy has a much cheaper offer, you might wanna check with him.

maybe can nego even cheaper...


Added on November 2, 2010, 8:13 pm
QUOTE(jananan @ Nov 2 2010, 08:10 PM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/734588

i think this guy has a much cheaper offer, you might wanna check with him.

maybe can nego even cheaper...
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about the same price i guess... kinda cheap for 8gb and shipping...

as long its not fake... but who would fake kingmax...

fake sandisk and kingston got la...

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post Nov 2 2010, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Nov 2 2010, 08:25 PM)
^Trouble is not many people have stock for high speed microSD even though the advertise it in their thread.
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i might take one, also check if that guy is selling 16GB class 4 kingmax as well. my friend with the N8 might want, the 16GB built in is not enough for N8 HD video recording.
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post Nov 2 2010, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(hengguowei @ Nov 2 2010, 08:40 PM)
not to forget Nitdroid and Meego release too...and many other exciting stuff like my really yeng lowlight shots tongue.gif


Added on November 2, 2010, 8:43 pm
urm...actually why you need class 10?...my Nitdroid install on 2gb no class MicroSD but is working fine tongue.gif
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before they introduced the class system.

some class-less microsd were really fast as well...

some branded microsd without class numbering were equal or better than class 6.
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post Nov 2 2010, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(Liuteva @ Nov 2 2010, 10:03 PM)
Waiting my new N900 first charging... Fast fast full! sad.gif
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congratz....
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post Nov 2 2010, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(razorboy @ Nov 2 2010, 10:08 PM)
Guys, I'm screwed. This morning I left my n900 at home to download P.R 1.3 while plugged onto the pc cable. As it was 80++mb so i just left it to download. But when I got home. I couldn't on my phone and when i plug in the cable, the charging orange light changed to a static orange light. HELP!!!!!
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try to remove battery. leave it without battery for 10 minutes. then plug in battery and charger back. wait another 10 minutes. then try to switch it on.
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post Nov 2 2010, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Nov 2 2010, 10:17 PM)
You might need manual reflash later.
Post your phones condition here later.

@jananan
You want to be in the microSD card bulk?
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put me in for one card, the 8GB class 10 first.


if you let me know the price, i''ll let you know if my friend wants the 16GB class 4....
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post Nov 2 2010, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(razorboy @ Nov 2 2010, 10:42 PM)
it on after awhile. thanks guys.
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great...

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