Where u stay? I also quite curious what cause your temp to rise that high...

Hmm..from what I have learn from the Sifu here is, try to play with other settings and don't just increase the multiplier.

I used to set my multiplier at 18 to get 3.6Ghz but I need to bump my vcore for it to be stable.

Now I set the multiplier at 17 and FSB at 212 and I'm able to get 3.6Ghz without increasing the vcore.

Maybe u should try to play with other settings as well.

But ur so lucky, manage to unlock ur 555 to quad core.
My balls are not strong enough to take that risk

Err..u mean without problem or got problem? Cause if u say without no problem means got problem
Btw, good luck to ur OC bro. Maybe I should push mine to 3.8Ghz....

Hehe..nvm bro, just kidding only. 955BE potential is already widely known. Its just how much I can push my system only. And I think I cannot go beyond 3.8Ghz lor..

I prime my proc at 3.6Ghz for 1 hour and the temp is already 52c. Almost hit the heat wall edi.
But will still give it a try anyways, see whether I can do it or not

Looks like marketing BS to me...

It is too obvious that Asrock is marketing their mobo. Is it really that hard to see

I did not say the new socket is BS. Please find a word in my post that says the new socket is BS. I have NEVER EVER said the AM3+ is BS. I stand stand firmly on this statement.

Hmm..I see that ur refering to the Bit Tech link. And I was refering to the Asrock link, which is a lot more marketing that cite why you should choose Asrock AM3+ mobo over standard AM3.
The way they present those so called "Details" is very marketing type. Ok, calling it Marketing BS may be a bit over but still...like I said, Marketing..

And the Bit Tech's title is very misleading lorr...where got AM3+ CPU details. Just the socket info they got from Asrock.
So in the end, what's the difference between Gigabyte's AM3+ and Asrock AM3+ ?
Even the article wrote Asrock is using the current generation chipset for their AM3+ mobos.

As for the Bulldozer's compatibility with AM3 mobos, some say can some say not stable. Will only know when AMD officially release Bulldozer and someone tries it out.
Before that is confirmed, Asrock's marketing is Marketing...

This post has been edited by cllee86: May 5 2011, 01:21 AM

Marketing BS does not necessary mean lies. They just gives you figures or details that doesn't really mean much and do heavy promotion on these details to differentiate themselves.
If ur really upset with the word BS then I apologize to you. But to me, that's what they are.

I can't believe we are arguing about sockets. They don't really make much difference to the overall performance sumore...
And since u say those manufacturers are not stupid then I wanna confirm something, Asrock says that AM3+ sockets have 11% bigger holes than AM3. Based on that we can assume that BD has bigger pins, if not why make bigger holes. But then again, if BD has bigger pins, it surely won't fit into AM3 sockets.
But since manufacturers has BD on their hands and like u said, have tried them before, they surely know about this "FACT" rite. Then why do they still come out with statements like AM3 mobo with BIOS upgrade will be able support AM3+ BD?
Don't tell me bigger pins can fit into smaller holes...I believe u have swap so many procs that u can tell it won't. And if BD pins are the same size as current Phenom line, then why market AM3+ has bigger socket holes?

Aii...what the hell are we doing. Arguing based on speculation and rumors
Alright, I'm gonna back down from this argument. Sorry if I offended you bro kunta.

Wow. I already apologize and u still come at me like that. Now I know where ur level is.
So, you don't agree that most of the time marketing gives a bunch of rubbish info that doesn't mean much. Ur telling me that u believe every single word that those leaflets or pamphlets tells you. So this is ur level..lemme tell you kid, don't believe everything they tell you. I can give tons of marketing scheme or figures that large manufacturer use that don't mean shit..



You see, I don't. But assumption can be made since they decided to make the holes larger, and its a VALID assumption. In your infinite wisdom. Please enlighten me. How bigger hole can prevent bending of pins.

Again, in your statement you assume that I have never touch a proc before. Well, I did. Maybe not as much as you but I have touch all AMD sockets since Socket 7. I remembered every single AMD cpu I bought and install since 98.
I have moved the proc side by side and I am aware that there are still very small space for it to move a little. But u seem to forget to mention, it becomes tight after u lock the lever down. So a tiny room is needed. Imagine, if they make the pins bigger it'll be a very tight fit even before locking the lever, and the pins might actually bent if u lock it down.

Yes, I have tried my 955 on AM2 before moving to AM3. Even the move from DDR2 to DDR3 does not produce much noticeable performance increase. Are you telling me other wise. I know that newer socket is indeed better than previous ones, but only if they are paired with newer Chipset. Just the SOCKET ALONE will not produce much performance improvements. Unless they go crazy and introduce LGA for AMD laa..I'm actually hoping AMD would introduce LGA for BD. I admit I'm slightly disappointed when AMD decided to use AM3+ for BD.

Dude. U think the pins and holes are made of soft rubbers arr? 11% increase is freakin huge for those hard materials. U really think those socket holes will expand if you put slightly larger pins.

Again, AMD never release statement that BD will have larger pins. But assumptions can be made since Asrock says the holes are larger. And again, in your infinite wisdom. Please enlighten me. How bigger hole can prevent bending of pins.

I can't believe we are arguing based on speculations, rumors and marketing. The whole argument starts when I see the links as Marketing BS while kunta sees it as previous details.

So kunta, can we agree to disagree. I call truce.




This post has been edited by cllee86: May 5 2011, 07:23 PM

Haiz..I don't think u understand my previous post. Not sure wanna explain again. This is getting tiring. I'm not a fan at explaining the same thing over and over again. So I'm just gonna let this one slide..

Well..I can't argue with this..Like u said, Noise and Ripple doesn't matter to normal users. I think only electronic engineers would understand those. R u an electronic engineer? Cause even I read 10 times the article in Wikipedia I still can't understand what is electronic ripple and how it affect components. Sorry if my BS comment offended you..

Shouldn't it be more stable volt, more stable ur oc. But stability also equals to ability....so I think they're the one and same....WTH am I mumbling here

Well if OC then I think there is difference. But there are simply too many factors that affect the OC'bility(is that even a word, or I just invented 1 ) of a system.
What I mean when I said there is not much performance improvement is in terms of normal usage. But OC.....I think the higher frequency does contribute to better OC'bility...

The biggest difference between my socket AM2 and AM3 is the chipset. The chipset on my AM2 is a very old NF6100. So there are a lot of options that are closed to me. I feels like my 955 is locked in a prison when I used that mobo . But then back then I got no money so no choice.
But since my AM3 mobo is using AMD770 chipset, the OC is a lot better with a lot more options for me to tweak. So I think, chipset makes the most different in OC'bility. Socket alone is not perfect. Must pair a good chipset with new socket. Must wait for new 9xx chipset for AM3+.

So, this ends our meaningless argument. This is the time to rejoice, not argue Finally, a new Architecture from AMD. I heard rumours that AMD implement their own version of HT in BD. I seriously hope this is confirmed. Fingers crossed.


This post has been edited by cllee86: May 7 2011, 03:47 PM

Nvm..A little late no problem wan. Must settle the bugs first...

In the meantime, found someone selling M4A88T-V Evo at a somewhat attractive price. Wonder if I should change my 770 Chipset to 880

Haiya Master Khoo..Now u said it like that it makes me even more itchy for this board liao
I just bought the 770T not too long ago..

Hmm..bro kunta said that 8xx chipset have more control on the RAMS. Wonder if I should try it out.
My 770T only allow RAM up to 1666Mhz...M4A880TD-V can allow up to 2000Mhz...
The more I think about it the more I Gatal

This is the Logical excuse holding back my Illogical want of buying 880 mobo

Yea man..ur right..Just double confirm it..guess I'm keeping my board then. Better save money for Bulldozer

Haha . Guru 3D just posted a review on ASUS Sabertooth 990FX motherboard. Link here: http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-sabertooth-990fx-review/1

Let us hope AMD will be able to trade blows with Intel this time.
I wanna see a 2 horse race