Hi, I want to buy a guitar. i have never learn any other instrument before. so here's a few question im confused of
should i buy electric or acoustic one ? although i personally prefer electric one, are there any big difference?
what model is good for newbie like me ?
what is the price range?
what should i ask for when im buying guitar?
how to check guitar's condition whether it is good or used?
are there any shop you guys recommend ? [i live in kedah, so either penang or kedah only]

thank you all !

Model as in budget ? Then the higher the better cause it will motivate you to play .

Acoustic is alot cheaper compare then Electric Guitar . Cause you need to buy amp for electric guitar as well .

Normally , shops sell new guitars unless listed .

i see , thanks a lot

hmnmm... been asked on and off many times already. set ur budget first before anything, and go make up your mind what you really like. if u already headless fly then no one can really help u right.

that said, i seriously think this is a good deal

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1564765&hl=

haha.... this is the second time i am pasting this coz if only i play e.guitar i will get, but i dun. muahahahaha

This post has been edited by Karenalvin: Oct 13 2010, 01:36 PM

wow , that's a cool one !! thanks a lot !!

good huh

tell us what type of music you wanted to play.... If you you to play rock or metal songs no point buying acoustic guitar right? But if you want to play soft music, electric guitar also can... Like blues, jazz ... If you like strumming and sing along ones then acoustic lo... Electric is for those who want play band music, usually la

Bro, im from kulim, im selling off my ibanez s320. Good for beginner and intermedite alike. Check it out here :

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1521486

Pm me if intrested!

any guitar wud do unless a fake

Guys is it better to buy just the guitar itself or buy the package(which contains the guitar and some other extras like capo,gig bag,etc.)?

if u fully optimize ur budget for a gtr only u will get a better gtr.. rather than buy a pack..

ur 1st guitar is once in a lifetime only.. ther's no more-than-1 guitar as the 1st guitar unless u are a kaya man..

which is at the 1st place, u won't even bother on the price tag.. hehe

LIES!!!!

thou cant stop GASSING

but id say get a good entry model at the start, know what you want to play. the safest bet is that try to get a guitar nearest to your idol's axe.

its likely in teh future you change taste as you mature and find your tone. i started of wanking on a fender copy (PRINCE!) and played metal, after that i kina just stuck with a clean tone and played clean stuff

be cheap. for your 1st guitar,around 500 max should be enough.
wether acoustic or electric,depends on what type of music you wanna learn.
if you wanna just play straight rock and blues,go for electric.
but if you wanna be a bit more all rounded and play like sweet stuff,go for acoustic.
ask for price,type of wood(the sound you get is totally different with different types of wood).
electric guitars need an amplifier to work,whereas acoustics need nothing.
since your a 1st time buyer,go with a friend whose a pro.trust me,it will save you from getting scammed.
learning how to distinguish fakes guitars from real,how to check the condition is quite an advanced learning curve,even i have not perfected it yet.try penang for guitar shops,im sure there are alot a good places there.
just remember to go to many stores before settling on what guitar you wanna buy.
i did the mistake of buying my acoustic at a certain place,and 2 days later there's another shop selling the exact same guitar at almost 100 bucks cheaper.

sorry if it's a bit kelam kabut,but i hope this helps

3 most important things to remember ;
-used does not mean broken.you can get great guitars at a cheap price if their used,and they may even be at a better quality than the brand new store guitars.again,go with a pro friend who can help.

-learn everything you can about guitars.the construction,the wood and it's grain,for electrics,the type of pickups,effects,and a bunch of other stuff.don't just dive into it thinking your gonna be damn good the moment you buy a guitar.you need a lot of patients,and most people lose hope halfway sometimes.

-you don't need an expensive brand guitar to be great.a cheap one that you can practice on well works fine,sometimes better.always upgrade to the expensive guitars when your better,so your money is not wasted if you decide to quit.

acoustics - yamaha,ibanez,martinez,fina.these brands are good and reasonably easy to find at a 500 and below budget.

electric - sx,fina.most electric guitars are at least 1000 bucks(including amp) for a decent set.the best guitars you can get at a good price for electrics are these two,nothing else.anything cheaper is crap and a waste of wood,wire and metal.

happy guitaring bro,if you have any questions pm me

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Added on October 13, 2010, 6:52 pmdepends.if you getting your 1st electric and your noob giler,get the pack.
if your pro,personalize what you want.

acoustics,i don't really recommend buying a pack.buy 5 things only,and one is optional ;

guitar(duh)
capo
bag
guitar picks
guitar strap(optional)

remember you get what you pay for sometimes.and sometimes being practical is better than having quality.

think about this ;
you just started out.
you buy a 2000 buck fender guitar because you nak sangat quality.
play for 2 months.
stop because frustrated,cannot play advanced stuff.
2000 ringgit gone.

or-


spend 500 bucks on a decent quality guitar
play
even if stop,not that bad of a loss.


think of guitars as an investment,like how you would your house or car.spend your money wisely.and always learn as much as you can before buying.that is most important.

This post has been edited by russellhere: Oct 13 2010, 06:52 PM

if guitars were investments with guaranteed returns (in this case, ts being really absorbed and interesting in the guitar, progressing at a rapid speed and continues to progress), i'd say then invest the proper amount of money(for decent equipments like a roland microcube and a ibanez rg etc.). reason being simple, it sounds great(compared to sx, other starter pack guitar amps) and plays great for its price. and i truly believe that whenever you play through a decent rig, it inspires you to practise because it sounds decent and bright, not too dead and crappy.

maybe it's a little costly, but if the interest is there, then i'd say why not.

Good advice bro Very useful to newbies to me and TS.

Btw,what I'm looking at is the Yamaha F-310 or Yamaha-F310P,the difference is that the P means package..it has the guitar,capo,bag,picks,and strap,just like the 5 things that u said should buy,if i get the pack only i can get those things,if not i dunno where to get those stuff,cos I'm buying from the official Yamaha shops..but one thing good bout these official Yamaha dealers is I'm sure they dun sell fakes right?

to me, capo and picks are optional. And yea, no fakes there. priced ok?

Well,about RM400+ just for the guitar. More expensive,last time it was like RM350?Now they mark up the price already

But if dun buy the package,where to buy separate capo and picks?

most guitar shops sell capo and picks, heck i never used a capo much.

i tend to think guitar strap locks are more imp than capos

trust me on the latter, i hurt a few very exp guitars along the way cause of bad straps.

(gave my expensive fender a dent T.T)

Is it necessary to get the strap?What's it for actually?Just to hang it on your shoulders and play the guitar while you are standing?So u dun need to always sit down and support it using your arm/chest/legs?

Precisely.

Ahh,ok,btw what are the basics I should know before going to buy?I'm going to one of those official dealers,so I dun think got any worries about fakes

straplocks not straps, straps are a must. how you going to pull your rock star moves sitting down? i dont stand up and play much but when i do it gives another dimension of fun.

straplocks lock your straps to the guitar, ive had a few canvas straps that broke and caused quite sad dents on my axes. my old godin dropped on the floor cause the strap came out, my current fender hit a table and got a dent on it due to the strap letting go.

its either you get a really good strap that wont fail or straplocks, protect your guitar.

what you want to play is imp and your budget, buying a yamaha pacifica with single coils to play heavy death metal would take you pretty much to bad tone-dom. but if you already selected the guitar look for scratches, work manship, any bent necks, check if it works, if it feels right and so on.

i wont go into tone yet cause i dont think you actually found one that you love

first guitar but never the last

thanks for all sifu's advice

This post has been edited by Kuhararin: Oct 14 2010, 11:54 AM

just an opinion, i think the acoustic guitar is a good starting point regardless of your musical inclination, whether it is towards heavy metal or easy listening, for its pick up and play nature. i can safely say that most of us here started off on a kapok, except of course those with $$$ to spare. from there on, u can evolve to electric and play any style of music u want. my advice to u is: get urself an acoustic guitar and learn to play Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here... right bro +3kk!?

i played guitar for almost 6 years, yet i having a hard time to buy a new guitar..so, my opinion is it doesn't matter whether guitar for beginner or expert, to buy a right guitar is not as simple as ABC..even nowadays, there become a lot more options..remember u want to make ur money worth every penny so think wise

thanks,anything to help out a fellow guitarist
well the most important thing is the guitar,and you already settled on the brand and model(a good one,i might add.yamaha's are extermely underrated,no one gives them the credit they deserve)

as for the package,depends on you.
if you want to personalize the whole rig and choose it yourself,then buy the guitar je and choose everything yourself.
get the pack if you malas nak personalize,and would do that later anyway.

as for yamaha official shops,yeah they don't sell fakes for yamaha.
kinda obvious don't you think?

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Added on October 14, 2010, 3:11 pminvestment doesn't have to have a return imo.
it can be an investment for the future ; ie your kids.

eg : my best friend's cousin's late father bought like a hell of a lot of strats and tele's,including the SRV signature strat(yes,the original one,almost 15k+)
now it's all his.
and he is a f***ing fantastic guitarist.

This post has been edited by russellhere: Oct 14 2010, 03:11 PM

I have indeed found the one I like,Yamaha F-310




Well,I think quite many ppl do like Yamaha F-310,dunno bout other models,they say it's a good beginner guitar
But the package will cost more,but I think it's more convenient if all the necessary things are in once package

f310 is the best i can reccomend a person if they want quality for a good price.
yamaha's are the mutton of acoustic guitars ; understated,not many people fancy,but it's bloody brilliant,but it keeps getting no credit,because of it's lamb counterparts,like fender,epi,gibson,etc.

Yamaha is good but pricing getting more expensive each year. Yamaha guitar beginner range guitar is pretty good, but when you want to go upgrade to advance level guitar, people normally won't consider yamaha cos there's many other brand build better guitars and the price also cheaper!

true.
yamaha's are good if your broke.
but if you have the money,
there are of course beter options.
but this thread isn't about the best acoustic guita,
but the best for a broke beginner.

sadly tho i wont recommend a kapok to anyone, i started of with an odd classical guitar i nicked off my friend. but you hare half right. still most of us tend to buy an axe later just cause we like it


get your tone and know what you like, its easier once you had your tone nailed down. i find that later on most people find buying guitar hard cause they cant decide what they want to sound like. this ends you up with tons of equipment that you dont need.

It is a lot better to start off with a decent guitar..
Having a not so good guitar like a kapok will make learning guitar harder because they are poorly made..
I've seen ones with fatter necks to compensate for no truss rod and plastic bridge..hard to play
I have a Yamaha F-310 and I can say it is damn good for a beginners guitar..probably the lowest I will go
But then next time when better already get a solid wood acoustic guitar..it's tone is awesome compared to laminated wood
Happy shredding..

I suggest a nice used fender made in mexico or a squier if you cant afford the fender

indeed, but thats the tricky part for a guitarist..at one time, u can nail it and the other time just get screwed..when i change my pickup to Dimarzio Evo, i set my expectation for my tone range would be wider since i love to play any kind of song..but then, i realized that its not just the pickup that set your tone..

depends on the guitar you have when you change it,and it's quality.
and the type of pickups are also important.

everything does amps, pickups, wood, some folks even go to say bridge. but i think most folks try to get everything in one guitar, they expect a fender to sound like a gibson in the morning and then a fender at night. which is near impossible.

however cause its impossible to get everything its better to decide what tone you want and work from it. in sense a Ibanez rg2550z + MT-2 + JCM800 will never beat a Fender 50's reissue + Bassman in a matchup for vintage 50's fender tunes; the fender system would also then suck in metal. ive tried plugging a fender strat in a JVM215 and damn its a hard day in hell you get that thing to go clean (the amp breaks up damn fast).

so yea, once you decided "metallica like 80's trash" its easier to build a system and get that specific tone.

TS the yamaha f310 is a good guitar for its worth, happy playing!

This post has been edited by +3kk!: Oct 15 2010, 07:32 PM

my opinion ; instead finding for a guitar that's fender in the morn and gibson at night,get both

or like me who pokai,
epi and squire

thats what some of us do, at one point i used to own 6 guitars and sold a few off. 2 is now in the storeroom (my first 2 axes)

still one tends to get the most love lol. not really economical to have like 3 with me, and only love 1

well i have a blues band and a rock/punk project in the works,so the les paul and the tele work perfectly covering all the main genres like rock,punk,pop,jazz,even metal kalau i tukar pickups on the lp

lol, my setup is mianly focused on the fender, vox tonelab + vox pathfinder. tho the tonelab can do metal mods it doesnt do justice to my schecter.

i always end up with the fender cause i love its tone

getting your own tone is important. u should know which tone do you like. make an artist as a reference. slash, vai, malmsteen ect. then u can start chosing the right gear for your tone ( not to be exactly like them laa..)
once you got your favourite tone, practice is FUN and MOTIVATED!!

i started with epihone les paul classic which i bough damn cheap.
Around 1k with gibson pickup on the neck. then upgraded SD jb on bridge.
then, i bought Ibanez RGT220a prestige.

tone wise, i prefer the cheap epiphone more!
(i`m not saying the ibanez sucks.) love the ibanez too! but i`m happier when i play my lp lol.

This post has been edited by jackwylde: Oct 17 2010, 01:49 AM

Electric vs Acoustic
1. Electric guitars normally need an amp. Obviously cost is higher, even without one the price would be double that of an acoustic.
2. Acoustics are normally lighter, bulkier, can be played anywhere. Since no amp required.
3. Acoustics only have ONE type of tone(sound), electrics have...well, give in to imagination.
4. The way people usually play acoustics and electrics are different. For example: Acoustic - Fingerstyle -plucking with multiple fingers) Electric - Shredding -using picks to pluck for guitar solos

In conclusion: Electric guitar for infinite possibilities. Which is more expensive lol

I don't know much about good models for beginners but I'm going with Strats and Telecasters. Yamaha multitasks too much. Price range for those would be... RM 700 -900? Correct me if I'm wrong please. Amps, my favorite would be Roland Micro Cube (RM 450 maybe?) - Light, small, several good effects to toy around with.

You should ask for an amp discount (if not included), a cable for ur electric guitar to amp, guitar bag (go for a padded bag ), a strap too (Owh, I'm greedy aren't I).

Guitar shops usually sells guitars which are new. But if you wanna check, best way is to see the metal parts. Frets will have rust on top, sometimes even rust/green/blue stuff on the sides if the guitar wasn't maintained properly, which most people don't. Strings can rust, but you can ask shopkeeper for new ones for free I guess. Screws on pickups can rust.

Hope this long winded post helps, correct me if I'm wrong at any part

acoustics do have different tones, took my friends baby taylor and play'ed it with another acoustic and the former was brighter and more defined.

also theres the classical range, smaller, nyon strings but feels andplays different. has a more rounded tone as compared to its brighter counterparts

the type of strings really do determine the tone of an acoustic.
acoustics can sound absolutely different bro.

For some strange reason I tend to think that the strings that came with the guitar is somewhat sharp and eats my frets quickly..
I used the strings that came with the guitar and the fret wear is fast..but when change strings already the frets wear less

maybe the frets were already worn when you bought your guitar? it might be a possibility. what strings were provided together with the guitar?

My bad guys. Since I usually hear only one type of tone of acoustic guitars. Didn't differentiate between the metal and nylon strings too lol

Most of the guitar that I own are new unit with an unopened box..not display unit
Don't know what strings they provide but playing with the original strings hurt more than with fresh strings..I usually go for DAddario or Martins..now more to DAddario

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Added on October 18, 2010, 9:03 pmIf you want a example of metal and nylon string guitars try watch and listen to this video..the guitar solo is nylon strings..nylon strings more mellow


This post has been edited by dma0991: Oct 18 2010, 09:03 PM

nylon and steel strings diff sound bro lol cos my guitar teacher uses a classical (nylon) and i use an acoustic (steel) =x

I actually wanted to start off with yamaha's F-310 but the shop (art tune in penang, i think most of you guys know it @@) abang din recommended that i get the custom acoustic FG701 so I got that one for 340 (+ tuner pick and strap total 390). he did mentioned that yamaha's F-310 not that nice compared to CA's FG701.. my previous and current guitar teacher also said so lol.

not sure though, would like to hear the more experienced guitar player's opinion on custom acoustic's FG701.. personally never tried out yamaha's F310 so i can't judge.

all i know is kapok made me cry buckets ._.

hi, i wanna tumbang this thread, i also plan to get a guitar and i never learn any music instrument before, i saw some selling guitar for rm120 or 150 this kind of guitar suit beginner???

IMO it is suitable for beginner....

no, read the thread

we should just make one thread saying, DONT BUY KAPOK IF U BEGINNER!

and rm120-150 tends to be a kapok

if you want a guitar get a good one, i dont mean a top end taylor but a respectable 400rm guitar will do far better than a kapok.

how bout this 1??
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1325853

i never tried that guitar before,so i don't know.....but i suggest you to pm gapnap...maybe they have some cheap & good beginner guitar...

To all the sifu's around,

I'm a new guitar player and am looking to buy a guitar w/pick up within the the price range of RM400 - Rm600.
So far, i've looked into 2 candidates,

Ibanez - V72ECE
Epiphone - AJ-100

Any other Suggestions?

Just wanna know which of these two would you choose and why?
anyone has any of these guitars, a review is highly appreciated..

I'm open to all opinions on other brand and models of guitar around the market..

Thanks Guys.

i tried my friend's Epiphone - AJ-100 before...imo sound not bad but with the tag price abit .....

but i did suggest you tanglewood or cort acoustic..

Will look into them..

what about Fender CD-60CE?

This guitar should be quite good.. saw some good reviews on it..

HMmm.. so many options.., haha

i suggest you go try those guitar and feel it...which one more comfortable and sound good...and don't forget to try the most expansive acoustic fell the sound of it..compared to cheapo acoustic...

i wish i could.. i'm currently in sabah and wont be going to the west for quite some time..

i'm planning to buy online and ask my sister to COD for me then bring it back...

there aren't many options around sabah for me to try.. 1 shop doesnt even let people try their guitars unless they are going to buy them..

basically, i think my list is down to fender cd-60ce vs epiphone aj-100.... tanglewood or cort acoustic any model recommendations? to be honest, i've never heard about these brands.. so need more feedback..

This post has been edited by sptham30: Nov 17 2010, 04:09 PM

Include Tanglewood TW28ce in your list.

The price is slightly above RM1k here in KL.

Superb playability, nice slim neck, solid top, Fishman pickup, modest look.

Cort acoustic can try AD810. Slightly better than Yamaha F310 in terms of wood and finishing. Or Cort AD880. Another brand you can try is Farida D-8. All under RM1k.

Cheers.
OK bye.

Get yourself a Taylor. It's a very very good guitar but it is expensive. save up and get it once and for all.

tumpang post here..

any recommendations for acoustic guitar around RM200?

kapok guitars? or go to music master, they may have guitars that suit your budget.

This.

alright thanks..

please..... no more kapok la... save another RM 100 plus and get a guitar la....

i wont take kapok, haha..
btw did anyone here heard about Evo?

Ya agree no Kapok,u may lose interest in it becos it's hard to play and quality not good

for around 200-300,btter get a 2nd hand yamaha f210 or f310...

Nah IMO for beginner dun get 2nd hand,get a new one,hey it's gonna have memories as ur first guitar

Hi people, can suggest any package of 1.5k with guitar and amp?


I'm open to Acoustic and Electric


Musical influence : Blues, Hard Rock, and abit of Oldies rock and also some metallica.


I only want brands like Ibanez, LTD, Squier, Epiphone, Scheter and Washburn. Thanks ;D

And also, I don't like guitar that has a shape like this. http://www.google.com.my/imglanding?imgurl...ved=0CB8Q9QEwAg


I have around RM1500-RM1600 to spend for both guitar and amp, kindly suggest?


Another thing, i want my first guitar to be New, i don't want 2nd hand ( No offence to 2nd hand guitar sellers )




Peace

Epiphone LP 100 + Roland Cube 30?

You mind 2nd hand amp?

Ermm, don't really mind. but prefer new one tho.

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Added on November 20, 2010, 1:02 amAnyway, do u guys suggest, slightly better guitar with 10W amp?

or lower end guitar with 30W amp?

This post has been edited by ClementxD: Nov 20 2010, 01:02 AM

slightly btter guitar with 10W amp

Any suggestions, bro?

schecter devil fr + ibz10g

check my siggy if u mind 2nd hand amp....

are there any tanglewood acoustic w/pickup below 1k??



thanks

Not sure. Haven't seen one.

If without pickup, plenty lor.

haha.. oh well, i'm kinda confused what guitar to get now.. many options, many factors as well...

mainly balancing the need between acoustic w and w/o pickup..

I'm thinking of Squier Deluxe Stratocaster FMT.

Anyone got any comments about this guitar?


my budget is 1.5k-1.6k for both guitar and amp.

good choice, but can save money and go for the one without the FMT.
the extra money ur paying is more for looks since the FMT does nothing to the sound.

How much is the one without FMT? :/

Anyway, i heard reviews about squiers, their necks are really thin, so it easy to bend / break it.

Isit true? :>

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Added on November 20, 2010, 4:25 pmBtw, anyone got comment about Cort X6 VPR and Cort X-11?

This post has been edited by ClementxD: Nov 20 2010, 04:25 PM

How much? Go call bentley

and its not about how thin or watever...its about whether the wood has been cured / dried / treated enough...and of cos the construction.
like pool / snooker cues are thin...but mine even after 10yrs or more are still perfectly straight...of cos i only use certain brands that costs more than some guitars...

This post has been edited by Everdying: Nov 20 2010, 05:08 PM

My Squiers Telecaster Customs have a tough neck, I dont think you can break it easily. Actually that guitar is so good I bought two of them.. but what interesting is that both have very different neck profile, one is thicker than the other. But I like both. I only know of Ibanez these days that have thin necks.

What about the rock tone? Isit suitable to play any hard rock songs?

^Yes it'll do. But maybe you need to mention your influences? Because Hard Rock can cover many many things..

^ Hmmm, like Nirvana, Metallica, Greenday and Muse.

But i play more on blues and John Mayer

Nothing wrong with Cort guitars. They are all well made. Especially the X11. Yummy. Don't bother about the VPR. It's basically an X6 with fake snake skin. Unless you like snake skin.

Muaahaha
OK bye.

Ibanez necks are meant to be thinner and wider..eg Wizard
If you have a wider fretboard easier for you to solo..fast ones
Where else Squiers imitate Stratocasters and you have the C shaped and V shaped necks for Strats..a lot fatter compared to Ibanez
You play JM blues go for Strats..I heard that JM has his current signature strat the Black1 at Bentley

Waaa, how much? JM signature, should be very expensive right?


Anyway, my budget increased to 1800