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kianweic
post Oct 12 2010, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(tatyinw @ Oct 12 2010, 04:17 PM)
Oh....
So it is now a room decoration for you?
Don't like the decoration?

You can always go here.
http://forum.lowyat.net/Games
Other people would gladly buy it from you.


Added on October 12, 2010, 4:24 pm

It is still your own choice to break the rules.
Whether they saman you or not is their choice as well.

You can always write a letter and feign ignorance or inconvenience as your defence to Blizzard if they do ban you for using 3rd party software.

But sometimes I wonder...
Using trainers which could even contain trojans and viruses is harder than typing terribleterribledamage or whysoserious for 26 times at the beginning of the game...
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Nah, I can't be bothered with it. Haven't touch Starcraft 2 since I finished single player campaign, kinda waste of money plus I can't sell it away since I have to sell it with my account.

Gonna just pass it to my cousins or friends for them to play
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post Oct 12 2010, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(TiF @ Oct 12 2010, 04:07 PM)
Lol, someone sounds like there's an option to reject the EULA and be able to play the game after that.

So I bought the game, then go home happily, install the game, suddenly see the EULA, what should I do? Convert the game into decoration?

This rules is just pure stupid.

I agree if they banned multiplayer cheat, but single player? huh?
PS: My argument is not about those got caught shouldn't be banned (after all, is in EULA, and if I don't agree I could always convert the game into room decoration, pretty expensive, but it stopped people from getting butthurt, so is a good deed), but is more to why has this rules at the first place?
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can. dont play the game.

and you may request for refund if you do not agree with the EULA. while i doubt IAH/local retailer would bother with you, you may try your luck with blizzard USA directly. with that said, i am quite certain should you stay in USA you may get that refund pretty damn easily. after all their consumer rights is very much different than ours, to the point its commonly abused.

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also, your argument is invalid (which is what myself, and a huge majority of people that have common sense within this thread pointed out) as it would be 1) extra work for blizzard to specifically weed out SP cheater/hackers 2) there may not be a method for blizzard to seperate SP/MP cheater/hackers 3) SP cheaters gaining achievements (please, for the love of god, read up the definition on WHAT is an achievement) when they SHOULD NOT be gaining. blizzard stance is firm: any illegal/unauthorized methods to gain ANY advantage (gaining achievements where you shouldn't, for example) in ANY of their game = ban end of story.


Added on October 12, 2010, 4:40 pm
QUOTE(kianweic @ Oct 12 2010, 04:16 PM)
For me simple, trainer is faster than typing cheat codes and I don't need to remember them and I can enjoy the full story as quickly as possible.
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casual mode is as retarded as it is, and typing a god mode cheat code shouldnt be too hard in casual mode.

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post Oct 12 2010, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 12 2010, 04:39 PM)
can. dont play the game.

and you may request for refund if you do not agree with the EULA. while i doubt IAH/local retailer would bother with you, you may try your luck with blizzard USA directly. with that said, i am quite certain should you stay in USA you may get that refund pretty damn easily. after all their consumer rights is very much different than ours, to the point its commonly abused.


Added on October 12, 2010, 4:40 pm

casual mode is as retarded as it is, and typing a god mode cheat code shouldnt be too hard in casual mode.
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Can't be bothered to.
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post Oct 12 2010, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Oct 12 2010, 04:43 PM)
Can't be bothered to.
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then dont. its your call. if you're ban, just dont cry for it. if you're not, then good for you.
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post Oct 12 2010, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 12 2010, 04:44 PM)
then dont. its your call. if you're ban, just dont cry for it. if you're not, then good for you.
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Not banned and not gonna replay the game.

Gonna just pass it to my cousins and friends.
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post Oct 12 2010, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(neoengsheng @ Oct 12 2010, 04:30 PM)
WoW is now populated completely by people that with mental capacity of a goldfish.

All the good and loyal players has left long ago, in order to get more people into the game, they design the content to be so easy that it can be completed by a goldfish in a bowl.

Tell me how the achievements affect the game besides making your epeen looks bigger and allow you to stroke your epeen in front of others?

Also, as mentioned by someone before me, show me how I can decline a contract that is not being negotiated with me before it was applied to the game and still play the game.

Trivia: Starcraft was actually created based on Warhammer 40k.
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so whats your armory prior to quiting? what is your highest achievements? if you're never at the highest possible state in the game, you do NOT have any say in this at all. regardless of how casual and brain dead the game may be.

and as for epeen, its only there if you bother about it. (eg: you harping non stop about something that you supposedly do not bother) and based on your logic: one should never bother to win games right? because achievements and epeen is nothing, amirite?

easy. you do not play the game. thus you declined the contract. simple as that. and get your refund.

trivia: blizzard originally wanted to team up with them for the original warcraft (rather, warhammer), they got rejected, and thus they created their own warcraft franchise. see where they are now?
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post Oct 12 2010, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Oct 12 2010, 04:45 PM)
Not banned and not gonna replay the game.

Gonna just pass it to my cousins and friends.
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kianweic,

Then please also choose to can't be bothered to response to this thread.
You are already typing more than the cheat code to tell us that you can't be bothered.
It is getting really ironic that you're still posting here...
Go do your workouts or your work instead...
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post Oct 12 2010, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 12 2010, 04:39 PM)
can. dont play the game.

and you may request for refund if you do not agree with the EULA. while i doubt IAH/local retailer would bother with you, you may try your luck with blizzard USA directly. with that said, i am quite certain should you stay in USA you may get that refund pretty damn easily. after all their consumer rights is very much different than ours, to the point its commonly abused.

=edit=
also, your argument is invalid (which is what myself, and a huge majority of people that have common sense within this thread pointed out) as it would be 1) extra work for blizzard to specifically weed out SP cheater/hackers 2) there may not be a method for blizzard to seperate SP/MP cheater/hackers 3) SP cheaters gaining achievements (please, for the love of god, read up the definition on WHAT is an achievement) when they SHOULD NOT be gaining. blizzard stance is firm: any illegal/unauthorized methods to gain ANY advantage (gaining achievements where you shouldn't, for example) in ANY of their game = ban end of story.


Added on October 12, 2010, 4:40 pm

casual mode is as retarded as it is, and typing a god mode cheat code shouldnt be too hard in casual mode.
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hmm, high on drug, aren't you?

1) extra work for blizzard to specifically weed out SP cheater/hackers
>> they want to ban, it is their responsibility to be able to specify the SP hackers (for me, cheaters are those who use the built in cheats).
from your point of view, if someone get caught killing another whether self-defense or not, then can straight sentence to death? coz go to court is well, extra work.

2) there may not be a method for blizzard to seperate SP/MP cheater/hackers
>> they can keep track on all your HOLY ACHIEVEMENTS and not able to seperate SP hackers from MP's?

3) SP cheaters gaining achievements (please, for the love of god, read up the definition on WHAT is an achievement)
>> seriously, now I understand how almighty is the achievement for you. I apologize if I somehow look down at those achievements. Hail achievement. May achievements continue to blessed me with all the intelligence and strength to keep pawning noobs. Amen.


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post Oct 12 2010, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(tatyinw @ Oct 12 2010, 04:50 PM)
kianweic,

Then please also choose to can't be bothered to response to this thread.
You are already typing more than the cheat code to tell us that you can't be bothered.
It is getting really ironic that you're still posting here...
Go do your workouts or your work instead...
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I am just replying Quaz since he replied mine.

Fine. I'll just leave it be, enjoy.
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post Oct 12 2010, 04:54 PM

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my fren bought the NA version (which is cheaper than SEA as he is in canada)...
then he jz moved back to msia for 1 year, gave blizz a call and blizz gave him SEA version as well...

seriously, i dun get why are ppl making blizz sound like some $.$ hogger when they could have jz charge for the sea lol...
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QUOTE(TiF @ Oct 12 2010, 04:51 PM)
hmm, high on drug, aren't you?

1) extra work for blizzard to specifically weed out SP cheater/hackers
>> they want to ban, it is their responsibility to be able to specify the SP hackers (for me, cheaters are those who use the built in cheats).
from your point of view, if someone get caught killing another whether self-defense or not, then can straight sentence to death? coz go to court is well, extra work.

2) there may not be a method for blizzard to seperate SP/MP cheater/hackers
>> they can keep track on all your HOLY ACHIEVEMENTS and not able to seperate SP hackers from MP's?

3) SP cheaters gaining achievements (please, for the love of god, read up the definition on WHAT is an achievement)
>> seriously, now I understand how almighty is the achievement for you. I apologize if I somehow look down at those achievements. Hail achievement. May achievements continue to blessed me with all the intelligence and strength to keep pawning noobs. Amen.
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1) it is not their responsibility AT ALL considering violation of the EULA allows them to revoke your rights to their game at their free will. and nope, that is entirely different because there was no EULA over your life, for example.

2) because achievements is within their game design while 3rd party hacks and cheats are clearly not.

3) averting the topic at hand when you have nothing intelligent for a rebuttal?

ps: you said to you cheaters are those who use built in cheats, yes? if you use built in cheats, you are PERFECTLY safe from being banned.


Added on October 12, 2010, 4:58 pm
QUOTE(evofantasy @ Oct 12 2010, 04:54 PM)
my fren bought the NA version (which is cheaper than SEA as he is in canada)...
then he jz moved back to msia for 1 year, gave blizz a call and blizz gave him SEA version as well...

seriously, i dun get why are ppl making blizz sound like some $.$ hogger when they could have jz charge for the sea lol...
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aww snaps. maybe i should try my luck wwww

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post Oct 12 2010, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Oct 12 2010, 04:45 PM)
Not banned and not gonna replay the game.

Gonna just pass it to my cousins and friends.
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So nice of you to pass it and share it with your cousins and friends..... Oh wai.... its against Battle.Net's term and conditons to share account.
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QUOTE(neoengsheng @ Oct 12 2010, 04:59 PM)
So nice of you to pass it and share it with your cousins and friends..... Oh wai.... its against Battle.Net's term and conditons to share account.
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Yup and I can't give it away either.
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QUOTE(TiF @ Oct 12 2010, 04:51 PM)
hmm, high on drug, aren't you?

1) extra work for blizzard to specifically weed out SP cheater/hackers
>> they want to ban, it is their responsibility to be able to specify the SP hackers (for me, cheaters are those who use the built in cheats).
from your point of view, if someone get caught killing another whether self-defense or not, then can straight sentence to death? coz go to court is well, extra work.

2) there may not be a method for blizzard to seperate SP/MP cheater/hackers
>> they can keep track on all your HOLY ACHIEVEMENTS and not able to seperate SP hackers from MP's?

3) SP cheaters gaining achievements (please, for the love of god, read up the definition on WHAT is an achievement)
>> seriously, now I understand how almighty is the achievement for you. I apologize if I somehow look down at those achievements. Hail achievement. May achievements continue to blessed me with all the intelligence and strength to keep pawning noobs. Amen.
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I am starting to believe that you are high on drugs...

1. They don't need to weed out. A rule is broken by using third party software. That's it basically. Your point on death sentence is irrelevant as it is a totally different law, which is out of topic here. Overruled.

2. Same as point 1. As for keeping track of achievements, it was built into the game. Why is that even difficult. It is working as intended.

3. I'm not sure why is achievements so important or why is it even debated in the first place, whether you gain something or not from using the third party program, you still broke a rule for using third party software.

Basically, all my points still points to the very same rule in the EULA. And to back up Quazacolt on the refund thingy.
Took this from WoW EULA.

THIS SOFTWARE IS LICENSED, NOT SOLD. BY INSTALLING, COPYING OR OTHERWISE USING THE GAME (DEFINED BELOW), YOU AGREE TO BE BOUND BY THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT, YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED TO INSTALL, COPY OR USE THE GAME. IF YOU REJECT THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT WITHIN THIRTY (30) DAYS AFTER YOUR PURCHASE, YOU MAY CALL (800)757-7707 TO REQUEST A FULL REFUND OF THE PURCHASE PRICE.


You're all just arguing that I should be able to break a rule because it is not severe.
If you're not happy go start a lawsuit against Blizzard or a protest against Blizzard for it.
If not you could always choose the simplest answer. Just don't play. It is that simple....

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ok assuming blizz allow 3rd party, we'll see more threads coming up about maphacks, warping in immortals with warptech etc...

get over it, those paying customers/ who bought the game are happy 3rd party software to be banned...
we dun wanna see retards cheating on multiplayer...

ps: if u knw coding etc (or basic computing), its much better n easier to detect 3rd party as a whole which alter the game parameters via memory rather than identifying if its for SP or MP...

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QUOTE(neoengsheng @ Oct 12 2010, 04:59 PM)
So nice of you to pass it and share it with your cousins and friends..... Oh wai.... its against Battle.Net's term and conditons to share account.
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Oct 12 2010, 05:01 PM)
Yup and I can't give it away either.
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Like I said.
Break it at your own risk.
Not like they are going to find out about you sharing.
You already got away with using trainers, maybe you'll continue to be lucky.

And certainly we can't be bothered to report as well.
Just do what you want. But I do implore you that if you do get banned, just don't cry like the topic starter.
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QUOTE(tatyinw @ Oct 12 2010, 05:10 PM)
Like I said.
Break it at your own risk.
Not like they are going to find out about you sharing.
You already got away with using trainers, maybe you'll continue to be lucky.

And certainly we can't be bothered to report as well.
Just do what you want. But I do implore you that if you do get banned, just don't cry like the topic starter.
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I am not gonna cry like topic starter.

I just move on to other games, things and etc.

I don't know why it is a big deal, ok fine I didn't get caught using a trainer, it's not like I am going to use again since I am very unlikely to replay the game.

2ndly, I can't share which is ok since it's in the EULA but I am not even sharing. I am more or less giving it away anyway. Not selling, not sharing, not anything.

I don't get it, if I buy the game I decide not to play why can't I just give it to my cousin or friend.
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Oct 12 2010, 05:16 PM)
I am not gonna cry like topic starter.

I just move on to other games, things and etc.

I don't know why it is a big deal, ok fine I didn't get caught using a trainer, it's not like I am going to use again since I am very unlikely to replay the game.

2ndly, I can't share which is ok since it's in the EULA but I am not even sharing. I am more or less giving it away anyway. Not selling, not sharing, not anything.

I don't get it, if I buy the game I decide not to play why can't I just give it to my cousin or friend.
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its only a big deal if you make it as so. if you dont make it as a big deal, its not then smile.gif

as for account sharing, if you look back in WoW, that can mean a lot of unfair advantage by taking turns to farm/grind etc. then there is also the issue of account tradings, and even fraud amongst account trading (such as reporting to blizz to reclaim the account etc). the easiest way out is to say that its illegal to all of that.

then again, like everyone's been pointing out: if your cousin (or whoever) isn't going to report you, or vandalize or cheat with your account, i doubt blizzard will find and ban you.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 12 2010, 05:34 PM)
1. its only a big deal if you make it as so. if you dont make it as a big deal, its not then smile.gif

2. as for account sharing, if you look back in WoW, that can mean a lot of unfair advantage by taking turns to farm/grind etc. then there is also the issue of account tradings, and even fraud amongst account trading (such as reporting to blizz to reclaim the account etc). the easiest way out is to say that its illegal to all of that.

3. then again, like everyone's been pointing out: if your cousin (or whoever) isn't going to report you, or vandalize or cheat with your account, i doubt blizzard will find and ban you.
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1. It is not a big deal to me.

2. Fair enough.

3. Well, it's up to him. Worst case scenario, I'll have to re-buy the game, registered another account if I get banned because of him or I could just leave it be.


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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 12 2010, 04:49 PM)
so whats your armory prior to quiting? what is your highest achievements? if you're never at the highest possible state in the game, you do NOT have any say in this at all. regardless of how casual and brain dead the game may be.

and as for epeen, its only there if you bother about it. (eg: you harping non stop about something that you supposedly do not bother) and based on your logic: one should never bother to win games right? because achievements and epeen is nothing, amirite?

easy. you do not play the game. thus you declined the contract. simple as that. and get your refund.

trivia: blizzard originally wanted to team up with them for the original warcraft (rather, warhammer), they got rejected, and thus they created their own warcraft franchise. see where they are now?
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So by your logic, unless I earned every bloody achievements available, highest possible equipment, highest PvP rating and maxed my gold, I am not qualified to complain?

I cleared the highest available content (4/4 ICC) before I quit because its so easy that its a joke, Blizzard was slow in releasing new content, I got bored and I choose to leave instead of keep paying monthly subscription. I do keep up with the update from time to time and found that there is nothing interesting anymore. In my opinion, I do win the game because I did take down the toughest possible boss before I leave, so I am satisfied with what I have achieved.
Remember as well that before Wotlk, there is no such thing as in game achievement and yet I enjoy the game even more.

So I decided to not buy Starcraft 2, if they continue this trend down to Diablo 3, I too will refuse to purchase Diablo 3.

In my opinion, Warhammer 40K is doing perfectly fine.

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