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post Oct 11 2010, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(AdamNg @ Oct 11 2010, 07:20 AM)
This very unfair....
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if you use unofficial cheats/trainers, and gained achievements, this ban is VERY FAIR.


Added on October 11, 2010, 9:32 am
QUOTE(mrhulk @ Oct 11 2010, 09:06 AM)
it is unfair.....at least, Blizzard should re-fund the money...
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this is not gayflier or any of your typical asian MMORPG.

go crymoar in your corner

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post Oct 11 2010, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Oct 11 2010, 10:46 AM)
lol stop QQ'ing about it, you cheat = you're at wrong, read the terms and conditions at least before registering.
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>recalls LYN WoW threads
>Malaysians
>read?

lold. even i stopped reading after TBC as theres pretty much no changes lol. it took me more than half an hour to finish the whole EULA btw. lol.

SC2 one i read once and thats it. (a lot short than WoW BTW)
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post Oct 11 2010, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Oct 11 2010, 11:04 AM)
lol u actually read the EULA?
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yeah lol.
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post Oct 11 2010, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Oct 11 2010, 11:06 AM)
i stopped reading EULAs when i started beta testing for games...
each and every damn patch gives u EULA lol
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its the same anyways. just forces you to read. though IINM there were slight changes before/after TBC, couldnt remember now though
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post Oct 11 2010, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Oct 11 2010, 11:23 AM)
I kind of agreed with the article. Blizzard may just step a bit too far. Banning when used in online games, it's all fair and square but even revoking their CD key from an offline game/campaign mode? If it's so bad, just ban them from any online games. Why go so far as revoking their legally purchased CD keys?
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single player awards achievements, cheating to acquire said achievements means un fair advantage. unfair advantage means ban.

is it THAT hard to understand?

besides, READ the EULA, and you will have the PERFECT idea that they have ALL THEIR RIGHT to do this. and bringing the matter to court and what not will only give blizzard's ARMY of lawyers a good laugh. (provided thats the only thing they did and not counter sue your ass into oblivion)
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post Oct 11 2010, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Oct 11 2010, 11:36 AM)
They broke the EULA but Blizzard's response is pretty damn over the top (wtd, Activision owns them so that's expected). They should just delete all single player achievements associated with SP cheater Bnet profiles instead.
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if you are aware of the EULA, you should see this coming. so no point crying over split milk or crying for the sake of others.


Added on October 11, 2010, 11:44 am
QUOTE(nagflar @ Oct 11 2010, 11:41 AM)
ppl cheat games for fun not the stupid useless achivement
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then use the built in cheat codes.

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post Oct 11 2010, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(talexeh @ Oct 11 2010, 12:45 PM)
Any reason why you can't use the built-in cheat code to complete the game instead? hmm.gif
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this.
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post Oct 11 2010, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(thejols @ Oct 11 2010, 06:11 PM)
lame..

just go download pirated SC2 game, and use trainer, 3rdparty hack whatsoever until bleed.

its soo obvious cheating gonna award u ban! so dont QQ
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are you promoting piracy?
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post Oct 12 2010, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(seraph8660 @ Oct 12 2010, 01:11 PM)
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i would suggest mailing blizz directly.
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post Oct 12 2010, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Oct 12 2010, 01:34 PM)
I'm pretty sure a "trainer" is a 3rd party program...

and reading those 2 lines made my head hurt.

doh.gif
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it would be DAMN FUNNY if someone proceeded to hack SP and shit after getting the assurance from that idiot, and blizzard banned him, and said guy went back to said idiot for a show down.
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post Oct 12 2010, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(TiF @ Oct 12 2010, 03:37 PM)
Why is that I buy the game already and I couldn't play it the way I like?
Even if I just trying to unlock the achievement, so what? Does that give me any advantage in multiplayer? Or Blizzard ban me because they know for sure there are many starcraft 2 player that got butthurt easily because of my achievement? Well, it seems like this is the real reason. Faggot got butthurt easily.

PS: Lucky me not rush into buying it.
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"why is that i buy the game but i cannot cheat and reign supreme over other players"

try to think for yourself as to why.

and if you're still going to be ignorant and argue, EULA, and like other people pointed out: theres probably no way for blizz to know if the 3rd party hack applied is for single player only, or applied to multiplayer. to be fair, upon usage and caught = ban end of story


Added on October 12, 2010, 3:57 pm
QUOTE(neoengsheng @ Oct 12 2010, 03:38 PM)
Thank goodness I decided to quit WoW and not to buy Starcraft 2.

I knew Blizzard is going greedy the second they decide to split the game into 3 pieces and remove LAN play.

And pity those who butthurt with people getting achievements that means nothing in a game.

Guess someone like to show off their epeen.
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kewl, and the rest of the world would move on with their WoW or sc2. nothing of value was lost.

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post Oct 12 2010, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Oct 12 2010, 04:00 PM)
Yeah man better dun use hack, my friend got banned even b4 the new patch was implemented.
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and like other people pointed out: if achievement means NOTHING to you, and you just want to breeze the game or for whatever else reason anyways, there are BUILT IN CHEAT CODES which are completely legal and still gives you god mode. the only thing it does is disable achievement gains.
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post Oct 12 2010, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(TiF @ Oct 12 2010, 04:07 PM)
Lol, someone sounds like there's an option to reject the EULA and be able to play the game after that.

So I bought the game, then go home happily, install the game, suddenly see the EULA, what should I do? Convert the game into decoration?

This rules is just pure stupid.

I agree if they banned multiplayer cheat, but single player? huh?
PS: My argument is not about those got caught shouldn't be banned (after all, is in EULA, and if I don't agree I could always convert the game into room decoration, pretty expensive, but it stopped people from getting butthurt, so is a good deed), but is more to why has this rules at the first place?
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can. dont play the game.

and you may request for refund if you do not agree with the EULA. while i doubt IAH/local retailer would bother with you, you may try your luck with blizzard USA directly. with that said, i am quite certain should you stay in USA you may get that refund pretty damn easily. after all their consumer rights is very much different than ours, to the point its commonly abused.

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also, your argument is invalid (which is what myself, and a huge majority of people that have common sense within this thread pointed out) as it would be 1) extra work for blizzard to specifically weed out SP cheater/hackers 2) there may not be a method for blizzard to seperate SP/MP cheater/hackers 3) SP cheaters gaining achievements (please, for the love of god, read up the definition on WHAT is an achievement) when they SHOULD NOT be gaining. blizzard stance is firm: any illegal/unauthorized methods to gain ANY advantage (gaining achievements where you shouldn't, for example) in ANY of their game = ban end of story.


Added on October 12, 2010, 4:40 pm
QUOTE(kianweic @ Oct 12 2010, 04:16 PM)
For me simple, trainer is faster than typing cheat codes and I don't need to remember them and I can enjoy the full story as quickly as possible.
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casual mode is as retarded as it is, and typing a god mode cheat code shouldnt be too hard in casual mode.

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post Oct 12 2010, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Oct 12 2010, 04:43 PM)
Can't be bothered to.
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then dont. its your call. if you're ban, just dont cry for it. if you're not, then good for you.
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post Oct 12 2010, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(neoengsheng @ Oct 12 2010, 04:30 PM)
WoW is now populated completely by people that with mental capacity of a goldfish.

All the good and loyal players has left long ago, in order to get more people into the game, they design the content to be so easy that it can be completed by a goldfish in a bowl.

Tell me how the achievements affect the game besides making your epeen looks bigger and allow you to stroke your epeen in front of others?

Also, as mentioned by someone before me, show me how I can decline a contract that is not being negotiated with me before it was applied to the game and still play the game.

Trivia: Starcraft was actually created based on Warhammer 40k.
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so whats your armory prior to quiting? what is your highest achievements? if you're never at the highest possible state in the game, you do NOT have any say in this at all. regardless of how casual and brain dead the game may be.

and as for epeen, its only there if you bother about it. (eg: you harping non stop about something that you supposedly do not bother) and based on your logic: one should never bother to win games right? because achievements and epeen is nothing, amirite?

easy. you do not play the game. thus you declined the contract. simple as that. and get your refund.

trivia: blizzard originally wanted to team up with them for the original warcraft (rather, warhammer), they got rejected, and thus they created their own warcraft franchise. see where they are now?
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post Oct 12 2010, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(TiF @ Oct 12 2010, 04:51 PM)
hmm, high on drug, aren't you?

1) extra work for blizzard to specifically weed out SP cheater/hackers
>> they want to ban, it is their responsibility to be able to specify the SP hackers (for me, cheaters are those who use the built in cheats).
from your point of view, if someone get caught killing another whether self-defense or not, then can straight sentence to death? coz go to court is well, extra work.

2) there may not be a method for blizzard to seperate SP/MP cheater/hackers
>> they can keep track on all your HOLY ACHIEVEMENTS and not able to seperate SP hackers from MP's?

3) SP cheaters gaining achievements (please, for the love of god, read up the definition on WHAT is an achievement)
>> seriously, now I understand how almighty is the achievement for you. I apologize if I somehow look down at those achievements. Hail achievement. May achievements continue to blessed me with all the intelligence and strength to keep pawning noobs. Amen.
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1) it is not their responsibility AT ALL considering violation of the EULA allows them to revoke your rights to their game at their free will. and nope, that is entirely different because there was no EULA over your life, for example.

2) because achievements is within their game design while 3rd party hacks and cheats are clearly not.

3) averting the topic at hand when you have nothing intelligent for a rebuttal?

ps: you said to you cheaters are those who use built in cheats, yes? if you use built in cheats, you are PERFECTLY safe from being banned.


Added on October 12, 2010, 4:58 pm
QUOTE(evofantasy @ Oct 12 2010, 04:54 PM)
my fren bought the NA version (which is cheaper than SEA as he is in canada)...
then he jz moved back to msia for 1 year, gave blizz a call and blizz gave him SEA version as well...

seriously, i dun get why are ppl making blizz sound like some $.$ hogger when they could have jz charge for the sea lol...
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aww snaps. maybe i should try my luck wwww

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post Oct 12 2010, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Oct 12 2010, 05:16 PM)
I am not gonna cry like topic starter.

I just move on to other games, things and etc.

I don't know why it is a big deal, ok fine I didn't get caught using a trainer, it's not like I am going to use again since I am very unlikely to replay the game.

2ndly, I can't share which is ok since it's in the EULA but I am not even sharing. I am more or less giving it away anyway. Not selling, not sharing, not anything.

I don't get it, if I buy the game I decide not to play why can't I just give it to my cousin or friend.
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its only a big deal if you make it as so. if you dont make it as a big deal, its not then smile.gif

as for account sharing, if you look back in WoW, that can mean a lot of unfair advantage by taking turns to farm/grind etc. then there is also the issue of account tradings, and even fraud amongst account trading (such as reporting to blizz to reclaim the account etc). the easiest way out is to say that its illegal to all of that.

then again, like everyone's been pointing out: if your cousin (or whoever) isn't going to report you, or vandalize or cheat with your account, i doubt blizzard will find and ban you.
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post Oct 12 2010, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(neoengsheng @ Oct 12 2010, 05:56 PM)
So by your logic, unless I earned every bloody achievements available, highest possible equipment, highest PvP rating and maxed my gold, I am not qualified to complain?

I cleared the highest available content (4/4 ICC) before I quit because its so easy that its a joke, Blizzard was slow in releasing new content, I got bored and I choose to leave instead of keep paying monthly subscription. I do keep up with the update from time to time and found that there is nothing interesting anymore. In my opinion, I do win the game because I did take down the toughest possible boss before I leave, so I am satisfied with what I have achieved.
Remember as well that before Wotlk, there is no such thing as in game achievement and yet I enjoy the game even more.

So I decided to not buy Starcraft 2, if they continue this trend down to Diablo 3, I too will refuse to purchase Diablo 3.

In my opinion, Warhammer 40K is doing perfectly fine.
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indirectly, yes. because blizzard intended ALL their content to be accessible by ANYONE. and what separates the casual than the hardcore/dedicated guilds/players are hard modes. there was no point creating content where only less than 5%-10% of the entire world's WoW population can access. (naxxramass pre TBC if you didn't realize)

and so you cleared 4/4 ICC, was it 4/4 LK hardmode? if no then i rest my case. if yes, then yes you are entitled to complain about how slow blizzard releases contents and/or how easy they were.

of course, you are entitled of your own opinions of what to buy and what to not buy. however you are aware on what forum you are in, and needless to say the majority (if not everyone) bought sc2, and trying to force your opinions/reasons on to the rest would be very unwise.

and yes, warhammer and warhammer 40k is doing pretty fine and dandy. though if you compared them against warcraft franchise and starcraft franchise, lets just say, not really. who knows what will happen if blizz did not create their own franchises and stuck with the warhammer ones. maybe it'll be greater, maybe it wont ever be good, not like we can all turn back time anyways. what we know now, warhammer/warhammer40k is pretty non-factor compared to the likes of what blizzard has.


Added on October 12, 2010, 6:09 pm
QUOTE(dlct87 @ Oct 12 2010, 06:01 PM)
so personal achievement/goal is ok, but when the game set the achievement/goal, then its suddenly "overrated, show off"?

and following the EULA is absurd, now i wonder whoever said this would consider following other rules(let say the law)is absurd?
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yeah all of a sudden doing something in a game earning game (or achievement lol) points is bad. haha. sure as hell did not know that

ps: speeding laws in malaysia is absurd. LAWL

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