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will do!!!still fighting to get contacts for few clubs in KL..
will keep you posted when if i get thru..
cheers mate..
<<<Singles Club V277>>>, row row row ur boat...
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QUOTE(quireyuyue @ Oct 9 2010, 10:38 PM) Tomorrow!! when the war began! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:44 PM) i prefer to work for company now...ur bro is lucky, while i asked everywhere...my IT cert certainly will not let me go dude, read up more... IT field now I see has good future but u need to like retool yrself with better languages tat improves productivity. QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:44 PM) The degree is just over-rated. hahaha~~ yup results. I agree it is important, even if your company sees it one time and you got hired , then some point in the future some of the companies wanted to see it again when you're being engaged to a project in a tender proposal. But nevertheless, it is still your experience that counts. People just want to see RESULTS, that's all, they don't care how you do it. (translated directly from Cantonese - Fast, Nice, Perfect!) |
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:48 PM) btw, all means pls tell big companies such as accenture out there, experience pawns papers someone who said like that, he's just being dead arrogant. IT is more about programming or fixing hardware...according to what i saw for the companies position at the MCTF |
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QUOTE(quireyuyue @ Oct 9 2010, 09:47 PM) i try to tell those company "i would like to venture out from IT into management, with my IT knowledge i can understand more about the process on the each side of the development" management book like "7 Lessons Learned From The World's Greatest Minds" ? Added on October 9, 2010, 9:54 pm QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:48 PM) IT makes tons of money. If you know how to pull off some tricks off your sleeve. The reality is, people are really desperate for programmers and technical people. I mean it's the world we are living in now. programmers with a salary of 2500 starting basic and raise to the top of the dept with 4000++? We are getting so impatient. System is down for just 1 hour, and that is severe enough for people to cry and make noise enough to screw you up. More IT people is needed to support the ever demanding needs. Someone who told me that doing IT is going to end up selling pirated DVDs in the night market 10 years ago. Today. Look who's talking! Argh.. I hate myself when I get it started again. unless u work for urself and start ur own company, else programmers will always be the one below the management group QUOTE(KVReninem @ Oct 9 2010, 09:50 PM) Tomorrow!! when the war began! yea, lots of positions out there» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « dude, read up more... IT field now I see has good future but u need to like retool yrself with better languages tat improves productivity. hahaha~~ yup results. This post has been edited by gundamsp01: Oct 9 2010, 09:54 PM |
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:51 PM) i try to tell those company "i would like to venture out from IT into management, with my IT knowledge i can understand more about the process on the each side of the development" doing typical IT jobs seems like a dead end jobmanagement book like "7 Lessons Learned From The World's Greatest Minds" ? But if you're clever enough to discover common IT problems that most companies face today, and find a unique solution to solve these problems efficiently, you can come up with your own product and start making money. It's just how you look at IT from another point of view. From my experience, I know problems exist. People just don't bother to solve it. It's just the nature of the industry. |
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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:54 PM) doing typical IT jobs seems like a dead end job if u have a great sense of idea, market needs, budget, and network...yea u can be rich by making programs and sell themBut if you're clever enough to discover common IT problems that most companies face today, and find a unique solution to solve these problems efficiently, you can come up with your own product and start making money. It's just how you look at IT from another point of view. From my experience, I know problems exist. People just don't bother to solve it. It's just the nature of the industry. |
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:51 PM) i try to tell those company "i would like to venture out from IT into management, with my IT knowledge i can understand more about the process on the each side of the development" it depends how you look into itmanagement book like "7 Lessons Learned From The World's Greatest Minds" ? Added on October 9, 2010, 9:54 pm programmers with a salary of 2500 starting basic and raise to the top of the dept with 4000++? unless u work for urself and start ur own company, else programmers will always be the one below the management group yea, lots of positions out there Some progammers can end up in the management group being project managers, system analysts, implementers, etc. But, bear in mind, as you go higher, the less likely you'll be in the technical team, and lesser technical work. Some find it boring, some find it OK. Depends. Some doesn't want to continue climbing the corporate ladder just for the sake of liking to do what they loves most. This post has been edited by geekster129: Oct 9 2010, 09:57 PM |
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Oct 9 2010, 08:57 PM) just feel don like lo..all depend on us..QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 08:58 PM) i dono how to swim..but parent will teach gua.. QUOTE(tzxsean @ Oct 9 2010, 08:59 PM) i hope i will get it too..hahaQUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:00 PM) oh yea ho...she is girl... i wan holiday 3years can r??QUOTE(tzxsean @ Oct 9 2010, 09:03 PM) ya,,main reason for me to work now..QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:06 PM) u been there today?? |
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:56 PM) if u have a great sense of idea, market needs, budget, and network...yea u can be rich by making programs and sell them that's what i'm aiming when I reach my prime, around 30 years old, I think?Added on October 9, 2010, 9:59 pm QUOTE(idonnou @ Oct 9 2010, 09:57 PM) just feel don like lo..all depend on us.. yeah.. quite the typical companies, TM, Genting, Honda, Mesiniaga, HSBC, Public Bank, Prudential, KFC, etci dono how to swim..but parent will teach gua.. i hope i will get it too..haha i wan holiday 3years can r?? ya,,main reason for me to work now.. u been there today?? This post has been edited by geekster129: Oct 9 2010, 09:59 PM |
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:48 PM) btw, all means pls tell big companies such as accenture out there, experience pawns papers i got fren from IT doing .... network, programmers, SAP consultants, supports,project executive, and etc. IT is more about programming or fixing hardware...according to what i saw for the companies position at the MCTF QUOTE(KVReninem @ Oct 9 2010, 09:50 PM) nopeQUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:54 PM) doing typical IT jobs seems like a dead end job But if you're clever enough to discover common IT problems that most companies face today, and find a unique solution to solve these problems efficiently, you can come up with your own product and start making money. It's just how you look at IT from another point of view. From my experience, I know problems exist. People just don't bother to solve it. It's just the nature of the industry. QUOTE(in Style @ Oct 9 2010, 09:55 PM) hihi~ |
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:46 PM) i looking for something to hold off family pressure now, if i'm to pursue my own dream job, i have take time to learn, and move out of this country Time always there to learn, its you not picking up Moving out is not a great things..socialized more, network more sort of stuffs tat get u somewhere! dun be freaking nerd in SC here, no use...cos ppl here come n go n graduated while u stay n figuring what to do. What you need to do is read more, if you want to waste time again for MBA, then its your call. I rather go with SAP which specialized n pay better money then MBA who a chinamen will say im just another office troopers. QUOTE(quireyuyue @ Oct 9 2010, 10:47 PM) 1. I`ll do read.. management books.. heaps of them2. Best book is sun tzu art of war 3. watch the apprentice tv shows..tat give u inside well abt donald trump type of management & why some dont need MBAs.. QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:48 PM) btw, all means pls tell big companies such as accenture out there, experience pawns papers Haha, you are just looking at tip of an ice berg..IT is more about programming or fixing hardware...according to what i saw for the companies position at the MCTF Accenture is more than tat QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:48 PM) IT makes tons of money. If you know how to pull off some tricks off your sleeve. The reality is, people are really desperate for programmers and technical people. I mean it's the world we are living in now. Infact, ppl in Msia r really short minded ..most in general.We are getting so impatient. System is down for just 1 hour, and that is severe enough for people to cry and make noise enough to screw you up. More IT people is needed to support the ever demanding needs. Someone who told me that doing IT is going to end up selling pirated DVDs in the night market 10 years ago. Today. Look who's talking! Argh.. I hate myself when I get it started again. always speculate without knowing the ending outcome. I respect IT ppl, they r the one who make us cut less trees n speed the productivity phase. QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:51 PM) Agree n stupid.QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:51 PM) i try to tell those company "i would like to venture out from IT into management, with my IT knowledge i can understand more about the process on the each side of the development" Yeh, tat book is good. Whats wrong? management book like "7 Lessons Learned From The World's Greatest Minds" ? |
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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:57 PM) it depends how you look into it yea, i know lots of other field ppl also same, from technical move to less technical, more about manage the operation Some progammers can end up in the management group being project managers, system analysts, implementers, etc. But, bear in mind, as you go higher, the less likely you'll be in the technical team, and lesser technical work. Some find it boring, some find it OK. Depends. Some doesn't want to continue climbing the corporate ladder just for the sake of liking to do what they loves most. QUOTE(idonnou @ Oct 9 2010, 09:57 PM) just feel don like lo..all depend on us.. no la, grab a rich guy, he will buy a cruise for ui dono how to swim..but parent will teach gua.. i hope i will get it too..haha i wan holiday 3years can r?? ya,,main reason for me to work now.. u been there today?? holiday 3 years, can de...got ppl sara u then can lo QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:58 PM) that's what i'm aiming when I reach my prime, around 30 years old, I think? not really age problem...it is more about the time the idea bang into ur head...be it 16, 20, or 60 years oldAdded on October 9, 2010, 9:59 pm yeah.. quite the typical companies, TM, Genting, Honda, Mesiniaga, HSBC, Public Bank, Prudential, KFC, etc |
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Oct 9 2010, 10:00 PM) Time always there to learn, its you not picking up Typical Malaysian (No offense - There are great Malaysians that I respect and love) usually will discourage you from great ideas, rather than motivate you to achieve.Moving out is not a great things..socialized more, network more sort of stuffs tat get u somewhere! dun be freaking nerd in SC here, no use...cos ppl here come n go n graduated while u stay n figuring what to do. What you need to do is read more, if you want to waste time again for MBA, then its your call. I rather go with SAP which specialized n pay better money then MBA who a chinamen will say im just another office troopers. 1. I`ll do read.. management books.. heaps of them 2. Best book is sun tzu art of war 3. watch the apprentice tv shows..tat give u inside well abt donald trump type of management & why some dont need MBAs.. Haha, you are just looking at tip of an ice berg.. Accenture is more than tat Infact, ppl in Msia r really short minded ..most in general. always speculate without knowing the ending outcome. I respect IT ppl, they r the one who make us cut less trees n speed the productivity phase. Agree n stupid. Yeh, tat book is good. Whats wrong? |
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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:58 PM) that's what i'm aiming when I reach my prime, around 30 years old, I think? many people o not???Added on October 9, 2010, 9:59 pm yeah.. quite the typical companies, TM, Genting, Honda, Mesiniaga, HSBC, Public Bank, Prudential, KFC, etc QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:02 PM) yea, i know lots of other field ppl also same, from technical move to less technical, more about manage the operation later i sleep early n DREAM for it..no la, grab a rich guy, he will buy a cruise for u holiday 3 years, can de...got ppl sara u then can lo not really age problem...it is more about the time the idea bang into ur head...be it 16, 20, or 60 years old |
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