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<<<Singles Club V277>>>, row row row ur boat...
<<<Singles Club V277>>>, row row row ur boat...
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FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!
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Oct 9 2010, 09:06 PM
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Oct 9 2010, 09:35 PM
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Oct 9 2010, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Oct 9 2010, 09:34 PM) well, you want better pay...better ranking start a business la..simple. If management is good, my life would have been easier. Why would I still be dealing with crappy clients these days.ntg biggie..but if u want to be a typical Office worker who got MBA..just to be proud about one freaking paper..better go out n see how the world works n read more. MBA is not the only way. MBA dont make you entrepreneur enuf thus they teach old stuf. More less that they dont bring new stuff out to speed up management but more of be the bottle neck of most companies. The reality of working life is crappy. Totally out of my expectation when I was in college. This post has been edited by geekster129: Oct 9 2010, 09:37 PM |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(quireyuyue @ Oct 9 2010, 09:38 PM) dunno? someone called geekster129? LOL Nevermind I don't wanna think about work for the next 10 hours I'm going to have my Sunday blues tomorrow... Gotta go Putrajaya and work tomorrow. This post has been edited by geekster129: Oct 9 2010, 09:40 PM |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(quireyuyue @ Oct 9 2010, 09:40 PM) onli ppl with money or can save enough can own a business The degree is just over-rated.my brother actually switch from E&E to business without the so call paper i feel tat it actually depend heavily on how u answer their question I agree it is important, even if your company sees it one time and you got hired , then some point in the future some of the companies wanted to see it again when you're being engaged to a project in a tender proposal. But nevertheless, it is still your experience that counts. People just want to see RESULTS, that's all, they don't care how you do it. (translated directly from Cantonese - Fast, Nice, Perfect!) This post has been edited by geekster129: Oct 9 2010, 09:44 PM |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Oct 9 2010, 09:45 PM) IT is not dead wood totally. Why dont u ask accounting? IT makes tons of money. If you know how to pull off some tricks off your sleeve. The reality is, people are really desperate for programmers and technical people. I mean it's the world we are living in now.Why didnt u take some well, business subjects in while in Uni? Most field now looking for common ground..rather specialized niche of ppls.. Business > is skills but not just luck also> its how well you can make yr company up in important stuffs. You can hear certain small companies, only +less than 10 starts ...n they r like powerful enuf to do big stufss.. the corps world alrdy collapsed. its not feasible goin to nuked ground.. We are getting so impatient. System is down for just 1 hour, and that is severe enough for people to cry and make noise enough to screw you up. More IT people is needed to support the ever demanding needs. Someone who told me that doing IT is going to end up selling pirated DVDs in the night market 10 years ago. Today. Look who's talking! Argh.. I hate myself when I get it started again. This post has been edited by geekster129: Oct 9 2010, 09:52 PM |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:48 PM) btw, all means pls tell big companies such as accenture out there, experience pawns papers someone who said like that, he's just being dead arrogant. IT is more about programming or fixing hardware...according to what i saw for the companies position at the MCTF |
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Oct 9 2010, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:51 PM) i try to tell those company "i would like to venture out from IT into management, with my IT knowledge i can understand more about the process on the each side of the development" doing typical IT jobs seems like a dead end jobmanagement book like "7 Lessons Learned From The World's Greatest Minds" ? But if you're clever enough to discover common IT problems that most companies face today, and find a unique solution to solve these problems efficiently, you can come up with your own product and start making money. It's just how you look at IT from another point of view. From my experience, I know problems exist. People just don't bother to solve it. It's just the nature of the industry. |
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:51 PM) i try to tell those company "i would like to venture out from IT into management, with my IT knowledge i can understand more about the process on the each side of the development" it depends how you look into itmanagement book like "7 Lessons Learned From The World's Greatest Minds" ? Added on October 9, 2010, 9:54 pm programmers with a salary of 2500 starting basic and raise to the top of the dept with 4000++? unless u work for urself and start ur own company, else programmers will always be the one below the management group yea, lots of positions out there Some progammers can end up in the management group being project managers, system analysts, implementers, etc. But, bear in mind, as you go higher, the less likely you'll be in the technical team, and lesser technical work. Some find it boring, some find it OK. Depends. Some doesn't want to continue climbing the corporate ladder just for the sake of liking to do what they loves most. This post has been edited by geekster129: Oct 9 2010, 09:57 PM |
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 09:56 PM) if u have a great sense of idea, market needs, budget, and network...yea u can be rich by making programs and sell them that's what i'm aiming when I reach my prime, around 30 years old, I think?Added on October 9, 2010, 9:59 pm QUOTE(idonnou @ Oct 9 2010, 09:57 PM) just feel don like lo..all depend on us.. yeah.. quite the typical companies, TM, Genting, Honda, Mesiniaga, HSBC, Public Bank, Prudential, KFC, etci dono how to swim..but parent will teach gua.. i hope i will get it too..haha i wan holiday 3years can r?? ya,,main reason for me to work now.. u been there today?? This post has been edited by geekster129: Oct 9 2010, 09:59 PM |
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Oct 9 2010, 10:00 PM) Time always there to learn, its you not picking up Typical Malaysian (No offense - There are great Malaysians that I respect and love) usually will discourage you from great ideas, rather than motivate you to achieve.Moving out is not a great things..socialized more, network more sort of stuffs tat get u somewhere! dun be freaking nerd in SC here, no use...cos ppl here come n go n graduated while u stay n figuring what to do. What you need to do is read more, if you want to waste time again for MBA, then its your call. I rather go with SAP which specialized n pay better money then MBA who a chinamen will say im just another office troopers. 1. I`ll do read.. management books.. heaps of them 2. Best book is sun tzu art of war 3. watch the apprentice tv shows..tat give u inside well abt donald trump type of management & why some dont need MBAs.. Haha, you are just looking at tip of an ice berg.. Accenture is more than tat Infact, ppl in Msia r really short minded ..most in general. always speculate without knowing the ending outcome. I respect IT ppl, they r the one who make us cut less trees n speed the productivity phase. Agree n stupid. Yeh, tat book is good. Whats wrong? |
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Yeah.. If Mark Zuckerberg can create The Facebook in Harvard and change the way millions of people communicate today, why can't I?
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QUOTE(in Style @ Oct 9 2010, 10:05 PM) haha yea... RW Sentosa Added on October 9, 2010, 10:09 pm QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:07 PM) lol.. We'll see how.This post has been edited by geekster129: Oct 9 2010, 10:09 PM |
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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Oct 9 2010, 10:11 PM) yea, lots of thing i dont know about programming hahaha... programming is not like finding inspiration for your next big ad campaign. Customer just want you to solve the problem immediately. No time for idea to bang your head. idea does bang into my head, sometimes programming problem cant be solve, suddenly a thought bang in when i was sleeping, jump up, straight to solve question another case, is for my 3d modeling, idea just flashes in my head when i was focusing on something else SAP is hot currently Solve slowly, and you'll get screwed kaw kaw This post has been edited by geekster129: Oct 9 2010, 10:15 PM |
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I think I wanna sleep now. Started to have some delusions already. This post has been edited by geekster129: Oct 9 2010, 10:22 PM |
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