Hey guys.. have you ever skipped lets say from gold league to diamond league? i was playing last nite and i suddenly found myself in diamond skipping plat.. i thought we need to go through plat first to climb up the ladder.. @@

tat means u pawn alot favored or slightly favored players. i got difficulties to climb up diamond league that time.

yeah.. i usually play with my friends.. its quite suffering to climb up the ladder.. since 1 month ago.. climbing from gold to plat.. its taking a very long time.. not to say climbing from plat to diamond.. >_<

leagues are NOT ladder and therefore it is no surprise to skip leaguges. you may get promoted from bronze to diamond if you're good, but you did horrible (intentional or not) in the placements. and likewise, if you did damn well in placement, earned plat, but played so damn horribly, you may get demoted all the way down bronze the same way as well.

you may also refer here (in the future, please use forum search function): http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1523097

holy damn a diamond..u must be good

Getting diamond is like getting a black belt in taekwondo, which means absolutely nothing until you start getting into 1k-1.4k range.

how i wish my losses would promote me to diamond...

u mean 1-1.4k points range?

Like LY members like RotiJohn and Scrubie, they probably played against 1.5k diamond players or better ones. These are the diamond players that know a lot about the game.

yeah, some of the high points player very good, but there are also alot low point and 70% winning rate crazy players

http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/12284...45#current-rank

http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/10551...51#current-rank

i see both are SEA Diamond league, but the 100 list of players are different. how does the DIVISION work?

im not sure if you realized this, but the point itself stays when you transfer league and with that said, a person can be 2k points in bronze, and if he suddenly gets promoted to diamond, he would still retain that 2k points. the only thing changed is the league rankings, and league itself. and said person would also be appropriately placed in an old league where majority of players are having similar points to have the rankings reflected properly instead of a new league and instantly gets rank 1.

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Added on October 4, 2010, 4:52 pmhigher points just means said player plays a lot with decent to good WLR

like wise a player can have same point but less games by just having higher WLR (lose less, win more per say. and in diamond league it actually matters unlike bronze almost 50point gain and almost 0 point losses)

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Added on October 4, 2010, 4:55 pmthink of bnet has MULTIPLE ladders with 100 player capacity. the reason for this is that EVERYONE gets a sense of progression since they are ONLY competing with people amongst their own division/league.

imagine if the ladder is say, 1k player and bnet ONLY has 1k player. you can GRIND for weeks and so forth, and you may NEVER progress in your standings because some other guy just either grinds more, or he played earlier than you are. now, imagine a player that just started half a year later. he will NEVER EVER climb in the ladders until blizz does a seasonal reset like they did on sc1/War3/diablo2 etc etc.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Oct 4 2010, 04:55 PM

true about this, my fren got into rank 2 diamond when he was promoted LOL...
when i was promoted, i got into rank 40+ back then...

points dun actually matters imho (especially wit the lol-bonus pool mechanic)...
if u see blizz's ranking of the top 200, some players only had 50+ wins, 20+ losses and are ranked top200 (or even top100) according to blizz...
i doubt they can be over 1.4k points with their low number of wins (even when they beat good opponents)...
its mostly all about the MMRs over points...

thanks quaz.

looks like losing streak isn't that bad.

http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/11653...ldfries/matches

i lost 5 games in a row against favored players. but just 1 victory and from rank 41 bronze suddenly go rank 80 of silver - yay! not clever enough to skip league only. hehe.

and from what i see - yes, points are retained. thus my 182 points entitles me only Rank #80.

nowadays got a lot noob diamond wandering around... some of them have 50~60 apm with bad macro management... diamond is nothing if it dont shine

This post has been edited by Nandeska: Oct 4 2010, 07:33 PM

u are very lucky few games and going silver, i climbed very slowly.
i wish got a diamond friends that can regularly play a custom with me, thats the best way to improve, fast.

p/s and from gold to diamond mean u are very good. u deserve it.

hmm, i up from silver #1 to gold #3. but didnt get into plat. chii so disappointed....
then took 1 month to go platinum, after killing 4 plats and 1 diamond in a row. still can't go diamond !!!!

at my stage now mostly get 1.4k to 1.8k player. some high point player quite noob haha.

This post has been edited by ROTiJOHN: Oct 4 2010, 10:21 PM

thats what ive been saying, and ive seen a LOT of them on SEA more so than US rofl

US i can still get an avg of 50-80 apm bad diamonds. SEA? vista lasik ady got 2x 40-50 apm diamond ady, nuff said lol

i think it depends really..
bcos frm gold to plat to diamond took me like a week + only
i think around 50-60 games..
bt then is true the fact that if u win against opponents who are favoured ur get + 16 to + 28 points
bt then once u reahc diamond
is v hard 2 stay there
when im favoured wiv another player, suddenly they cheese us
wah lao eh lose 28 points straight
rank 1 drop straight to rank 9 !