leagues are NOT ladder and therefore it is no surprise to skip leaguges. you may get promoted from bronze to diamond if you're good, but you did horrible (intentional or not) in the placements. and likewise, if you did damn well in placement, earned plat, but played so damn horribly, you may get demoted all the way down bronze the same way as well.

you may also refer here (in the future, please use forum search function): http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1523097

im not sure if you realized this, but the point itself stays when you transfer league and with that said, a person can be 2k points in bronze, and if he suddenly gets promoted to diamond, he would still retain that 2k points. the only thing changed is the league rankings, and league itself. and said person would also be appropriately placed in an old league where majority of players are having similar points to have the rankings reflected properly instead of a new league and instantly gets rank 1.

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Added on October 4, 2010, 4:52 pmhigher points just means said player plays a lot with decent to good WLR

like wise a player can have same point but less games by just having higher WLR (lose less, win more per say. and in diamond league it actually matters unlike bronze almost 50point gain and almost 0 point losses)

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Added on October 4, 2010, 4:55 pmthink of bnet has MULTIPLE ladders with 100 player capacity. the reason for this is that EVERYONE gets a sense of progression since they are ONLY competing with people amongst their own division/league.

imagine if the ladder is say, 1k player and bnet ONLY has 1k player. you can GRIND for weeks and so forth, and you may NEVER progress in your standings because some other guy just either grinds more, or he played earlier than you are. now, imagine a player that just started half a year later. he will NEVER EVER climb in the ladders until blizz does a seasonal reset like they did on sc1/War3/diablo2 etc etc.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Oct 4 2010, 04:55 PM

thats what ive been saying, and ive seen a LOT of them on SEA more so than US rofl

US i can still get an avg of 50-80 apm bad diamonds. SEA? vista lasik ady got 2x 40-50 apm diamond ady, nuff said lol

theres a replay pack download on the thread.

and of course apm isnt the be all end all, however if you're say, diamond, you should have at least a certain level of apm as its a way of showing how much action you do at a given time.

ps: the bads i mentioned, almost or definitely 90+% of them play terran. goes to show how OP race is wwwwwww

desert strike old version: banelings x scourge

desert strike newest version: WTF IS THAT ABBREVIATION SHIT WHAT THE f*** SLIME FAT THINGY.

thats what i stand by too as during beta, i was promoted to diamond by losing. LOL (with screenshot to prove too!)

you know, the very basics of beating your opponent, is using EVERYTHING you can do no matter what it is (so long it is legit, not hacks and what not) to take down your adversaries. doesn't matter not on your supply never being block, or your steady same 9 py 12 gate builds. if you're good at cannon rushing, and that wins you games, why the hell not?

i still do it in diamond leagues time to time. the good thing about cannon rushes especially in team game is that, while the biggest flaw is your base being opened for counters, having an ally generally nullifies that, and cannons are easy to contain people while yourself, or your ally expands. and having a surplus of minerals (chrono are 100% to probes lol) and gas means you can suddenly surprise people with high tech units like void rays when they are too focused on getting counters to your cannons (siege tank/marauders/bunker x spine crawler/roaches/trausfusing or creeping queens x stalker [played well, void rays dont have much problems dealing with small amount of stalkers especially backed by a wall of cannons]/immortals etc.)

hell, look at GSL, people even do bunker rushes, cannon rushes in such a HIGH LEVEL tournament that involved a total prize pot of 170k USD. the entire point being that, while basics are good and all, you still need that fast thinking to adapt to situations and decent apm to win games/advance in leagues, and ALL THAT, comes with experience/practice or in a nutshell, simply playing more.

the same can be applied to 1v1 btw. if you contained ur opponent, you control his economy and the momentum of the battle. so long you dont have any openings for a run by (especially zerg speedlings/zealots/reapers) you pretty much got the game in the bag. worse come to worse, so long you're confident on the containment, you can get 2-3 cannons at your mineral line to play it safe, then pull up void rays and the like to finish it for good.

if you've seen my profile, i do play 1v1 and while its just plat and just barely under 100 games played, i am fairly confident in my skill level against diamonds in SEA probably thanks to vista lasik.

and no, i have not mentioned anything about negligence. i am pointing out that theres "many ways to skin a rabbit" so long it gets the job done, thats it. no need to specifically emphasis on basics, cheese, rush, macro and what not. a good balance is to have everything mastered or at least, effort being put into, and just play more/gain experience. like an example to cheesing: if you're damn good at cheesing, most likelyhood you will be good at defending cheese too due to the familiarity of its timings, cheese positions on various maps, and so forth. same goes to rushing, macroing, fast expanding, etc etc.

You do realize that you're already experienced in US when you're most likely not when you started SEA? The global ranking pages speaks for itself so I rest my case if you still want to continue harping the same shit thread after thread lol

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