Hey guys,

I need some real advises..I am thinking of getting a Vios or a Forte 1.6...But I have no idea regarding FC...maintenance..

you can try reading up on
- http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1509655
- http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...4&hl=vios+forte
- http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1247118

In FC and maintainance, i think Vios win both..

Follow your heart!

anyways, just go for test drive both cars first then ull know.

i had the same problem like u earlier but now i've made my decision.

haha... bro.. i've done this b4, check on my thread... will give u some help... BTW, suggest u go for Forte ...XD

Forte +ve
-bigger space
-better interior
-Start button
-bigger boots
-safety (1.6 2 air bag ; 2.0 6 if not mistaken) vios only 1 wif J spec. n so da crash test is 4/5 star for forte , can't remember...XD

Forte -ve
-sometime"yit yit " sound coming out from seat /door ( can easily fix by adjusting da seat n seat belt)
-only electronic assist steering for 2.0 ( depend also, some prefer this ,some not)
-side mirror cannot fold by pressing button ( some ppl dun need this.)
-resell value???? ( i dun think so... getting more n more forte on da road, mayb vios better but i can say forte also not bad in da furture)

vios +ve
-gud FC ( i feel not much different, my fren driving vios, full tank 400-420km... lol??? depend how da way u drive)
-better pick up ( light mah .... drive safe pls)
-higher resell value ( bcoz its T ... depend how u feel... however u sell any car will rugi many... 5k / 7k lost 1 yr not much different since u able to bought a 80k+ car.

vios -ve
-interior very KOSONG ( this point is enuf for me to give up vios)
-exterior wif trd kits kinda nice , but i sit inside... not outside.
-ppl say driving over 120km/h da car chaking like sampan. ( but i think its ok ... coz its not bmw n benz XD)


haha... actually got many many more reason... while i open treads.... ppl scold me y compare fortre n vios... different segmen car.... like downgrading forte use to compare wif vios.... sound like forte higher class... so wat u waiting for .... forte lah.. XD

been there, i mean on choosing which one. at the end i chose vios

i really like the forte styling, so beautiful! but because of it's naza-kia, questions of reliability and quality comes into my mind.

do take note about their after sales service too.. a search on naza after sales service makes me think twice of going for anything that related with naza

i am happy with my vios but hey its your money so chose which one you like

If u taking the TRD vios is not worth at all... 92k which only perform a little better den the lowest spec which is at 76k... that is 12k diff... i just bought J spec and slam in TRD plus 16 inch... all come around addtional 5k but i also opt for TRD sportivo suspension. so is around 7k for the additional goodies. but till now.. i still think my gen2 is a better car.. but wth, i'm planning on changing another car after 4 years... so thats y i take vios..

so in the end which 1 did you go for??

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Added on September 30, 2010, 10:27 pmGen 2 is better than vios? really?

This post has been edited by angel_jc8: Sep 30 2010, 10:27 PM

Please close this thread as we don't need so many threads to discuss pros/cons between a C-segment car and a B-segment car. Go check previous thread and test drive yourself..

In bolehland, we don't compare segments, we compare prices... Other countries they compare segments because same segments have similar price tag, like mini and swift sports if not mistaken they are prices very closely, similarly with jazz, yaris, polo, fiesta...

In boleh land, Segments are nothing:p

I think Gen 2 handling should be better than Vios, but reliability is another issue!

+1 to you. in this boleh land. additional note to add, in boleh land the brand that matters, same segment car can be 100K difference in price.

I choose Forte and it serve me well...
Vios, i hate the dashbox...looks too simple and empty
engine is old type, yet the outlook is like dugong

but FC and resale value, still VIOS better
but hey, unlike properties/land, cars depreciate, price nv get higher than original. so, i buy a car for long term use....i choose Forte

I was a Gen2 owner but have traded in for a Honda City last month... I test drive a forte last month and it is indeed Gen2 handling is very good but like you said, reliability is an issue. My gen2 will have some problem once every 2 months (average). Btw, my gen2 is the first batch year 2004 production.

dude, i dun think so for ur forte -ve point;
for month of aug, forte only hav 450+- units registered.
if u said the resell value not bad for future, they hav to sell more. not to mention new waja lancer going to launch soon, forte will facing a real big challenge.
since volume of forte is not much, this also will limit their spare parts availability, in case the car break down or accidents, i'm sure everyone will hope their car get repair asap and not waiting the spare parts from korea. imagine without transportation for days or weeks, unless got 2nd car to cover.
u lack of 1 -ve point, 2 years/50KMs of short warranty, not to mention naza service center is poor. since the new car is 80K+, not 800, the buyer should deserve better after sales service and warranty.
i not so sure about ur 1 year lost 5/7K??? dun joke with me that u so sure forte only lose 5k/7k in 1 year. look at kia's "brother "hyundai avante, 2 years car selling 50K-60K...

for sure car will depreciate, but since this vios and forte can be consider as non-national budget car, i dun think every buyer in this category will be happy that their $$$ get burned easily...
unless u buying a new bmw or merc which hav lots of money to burn...

btw, not to say vios is perfect, as it got other -ve points also, but if u still like forte, just buy it...

edited: 1 thing i damn hate about naza, since Rondo is here, but they still selling Citra @ 60K++... this is not fair for the earlier buyer who purchased @ 80K++... imagine after 5 years, forte2 is here, and current forte selling 60K++ also...
hope naza dun repeat the same thing...

This post has been edited by NiCkY: Oct 3 2010, 09:12 PM

honda city ~~

gaya look ~ decent FC ~ excellent handling ~

^^

if u are comparing forte and vios, no need see. Just buy the forte, u just need to worry about naza service.

erm wanna consider ford fiesta?

Im forte owner, naza branch service are providing good service, but never go to some of the dealer SC..sux! I already kena once, and i wouldn't go back for dealer SC anymore..rather do booking at branch and service from them.. but anyway not regretting getting one and proud of being one.

Long term use and u buy Forte?? Thats a mistake. No Korean can was built to last.

Ill give u an assessment:

Vios

Pros
1) Excellent fuel consumption - 13km/L (city) and 15km/L (highway)
2) Very good after sales service from Toyota
3) Good build quality
4) Very reasonable maintainence costs
5) Excellent resale value - only about 40% drop in price after 7 yrs

Cons
1) Average specs
2) Current Vios design is average also
3) Price bit high
4) Not spacious at the rear but is ok since its targetted at young adults and not families

Forte

Pros
1) Good specs
2) Good physical design
3) Ample rear legroom
4) Excellent price

Cons
1) Mediorce after sales service as it is Naza
2) Cost of spare parts might be expensive if they dont sell enough cars
3) Resale value will be poor since its Naza and if sale numbers dont improve
4) Build quality - hopefully is improved compared to earlier models which gave alot of trouble
5) Fuel consumption higher

Conclusion:
Wait for the upcoming Hyundai Avante. 1.6L but with 6 speed gearbox and more horsepower than even the Honda Civic 1.8

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 4 2010, 01:03 AM

bravo, another bullshit from cybermaster without propers facts. I salute u.

Its based on EXPERIENCE which u dont have.

yes all the things you mention is from your pass experience... but i not really agree on resale value... as you can see now day car is getting more and more advance, are you sure another 4-5 year the resale value of your vios still can like last time 7 year only drop 40% (i mean buy the new vios and count from now) , i dont think so.

for TS... choice the car base on your need since currently so many ppl have advise joh

If Toyota resale value drops, other brands like Kia, Hyundai will be worse. Resale values are determined by 1 main factor which is number of original sales. Of course there are other factors but the main driver is the original sales volume.

yes i know it base on original sales volume and i know current only T + H is on top ( due to easy find service center anywhere, experience on my hometown @ johor) but let just assume 2 year down the line when other brand have been pick up (be it conti / Korea maker where the service center or etc easy to find like current T & H) do your think the sale figure is still the same if T+ H still maintain current standard?

The hell i dont idiot...
Ive owned an hyundai elantra for 8 damn years before this.. family owned a few hondas before.. the korean elantra had no problems..
damn troll go die la..
always talk without proper facts..why dont u answer some of fortezen questions..give ur fact.. u say u debate like a man, but no proper facts, and say based on experience.. go die man

Ive provided all answers. Grow up. Forte aint a Hyundai or dont u recognise emblems? HAHA

Surely not. Im hoping that other brands like the Koreans pick up their after sales service standards. Only then can they challenge Toyota and Honda. Hope it happens soon.

But you said Korean cars, not KIA cars.

try imagine 2012/13 vios wif dual vvti coming out.. who else wan vios which used bout 2-3 yrs time ... try predict how much u gotto sell da vios u bought at 2010/11?

i think the previous second hand gen city idsi and vtec still selling not bad despite the new i-vtec out...

the dual vvti is just better carbon emission due to europe's tight restrictions... check out the 1.6 vvti in the altis and compare it wit the dual vvti in the new altis... vios's 1.5 should not that far away only in terms of power and torque...

This post has been edited by kenji1903: Oct 4 2010, 05:47 PM

if everyone hav the thinking like u mentioned, then all go for new car, all 2nd hand car dealer ma close shop?
if u still insist wanna talk about advance tech in car will help to boost value for 2nd hand, previously there is a lot brand with high tech but suffer on 2nd hand value...

LOL...

there is enough real case scenario like u mentioned, just spend some time and do some research on malaysia's car market... our country market is a bit unique, so dun think is so simple as u thought...

cool down dude.. hope cyber won't be someone like City tinted Kindachi who loves to brag about even a piece of straw

This post has been edited by LONGandBIG: Oct 4 2010, 08:55 PM

btw, ur vios FC seems so so only... my FC for 55% highway, 30% town and 15% heavy jam also can get 15KM/L...
not yet try 100% highway, i assume should not be problem to hit 17KM/L or above for highway...

Safest bet for you. Get a bicycle. Technology advances year by year, with such mentality you will never go forward.

sorry to bust yr bubble cyber, but that statement can be voided ler. one can check with motor trader & confirm that for the past 2 years, lancer 2.0 has never gotten into the top 20 sales model in msia. even triton outsells lancer.

but a quick look at mudah, we can see a '07 lancer gt still sells for around 90k. thats about 25% depreciation ya?

i've checked also the figure for civic 2.0 & altis 1.8, they too, sell for around 24%~26% depreciation. but of course we all know these two models easily tops lancer in terms of number in sales. (since lancer isn't top 20, i guess around thrice?) so ya, resale value determined by number of sales is not necessary so.

i think it's the "want to get" factor. simply put, alot of people wanted to get the lancer 2.0gt too (as much as civic or altis?), but not at its' original asking price of 120K. there is alot of reason for that; plasticky interior, questionable handling, etc etc. but at 2nd hand price, these weakness are more acceptable (or we say, overlooked). that's why alot of people are so hyped up by the new waja now, it's just like getting a new lancer at 2nd handed lancer's price.

T&H always excel at creating the "want to get" factor with most of their models, whether it is new or 2nd hand. that's why their resale value are strong. peeps wanted their cars, old or new. but there are exceptions too.

now back to forte, i believe the "want to get" factor is similar to lancer, and provided naza doesn't butthurt current forte owner like how proton did with lancer owners, i think the residual value for 2nd hand forte should be quite as remarkable as lancer, even if the sales figure doesn't shine.

Make it simple. The supply and demand principle. People always skeptical towards korean and conti brands' resale value. But try looking into models like VW Golf GTI and Mini Cooper. The resale value isn't that bad. So it all goes back to the demand.

sorry...bad with summary,

2nd hand car dealer will not close shop but will have less sale. dun forget that people is earn more and more which currently fresh graduate from UNI work starting salary also min 2k-2.5k (apply only on central part like KL, Selangor) so when his/her salary hit 3k and above... i think he/she can afford a brand new car which price tag about 70-90k (provide the person dun have other commitment ).

advance tech only can say is some add-on, but the most important is demand... if you ask me... i only can say if the amount differ with 2nd hand against the new car is not many.. i rather take new car.

for TS... since you have take consider on forte and vios... maybe you also take consider into ford fiesta which also having the similar price tag

VIOS:
1.5 J(AT) : 76k
1.5 G(AT): 82k
1.5 E(AT) : 87k

forte:
1.6EX(AT) : 76k
1.6SX(AT) : 82k

ford fiesta (still is estimate price from website but wait this month they launch will have better picture)
1.4 (MT-hatch back) : 74k
1.6 (AT-sedan) : 80k
1.6 (AT-hatch back) : 85k

When we talk about resale value we're refering to their holding power of that particular model over a number of years.

A majority of the Civic sales to date were for the 1.8L category not the 2.0. Thats why a Civic 1.8L only loses about 21% of its value as compared to 23% for the Civic 2.0L. The Lancer loses marginally more at around 24%.

But u also have to take into account another factor. ALL cars depreciate alot within the first 3 - 5 yrs especially the first 3. In the case of the Civic 1.8L the price difference between a 2006 model and a 2007 model is only about 2-3K. Why? Because as the car grows older, its price holding power increases. Cars like Toyota and Honda are renowed for their hlding power.

Its difficult to judge any car for the first 2-3 yrs. Even a Vios loses alot in the first 3 yrs. If u want a real comparison, do it for cars 5 yrs and older.

What car do u drive?

When we refer to build quality, customer service standards, fuel consumption, etc we are refering to the GENERAL EXPERIENCE. 1 good/bad experience cannot be taken as a yardstick. In every car manufacturer, there will always be cars which do not comform to the norm.

Just early this year there was a case in US about a Merc customer who sued Mercedes Benz cuz his brand new Merc gave him endless electrical and electronic problems. And finally Mercedes replaced the car for him. Does this mean Merc is bad? Of course not. Just last month we heard numerous news reports from around the world where the latest Ferrari was always catching fire due to a battery/ignition fault. Does this mean that ferrari is a crap car? Of course not.

Yes ive heard some horror stories about Vios but in general most Vios owners are very happy with their cars.

Owning a Toyota was a nightmare. Sold it off after 7 years. Well from my experience, I've heard numerous complaints about toyota's SC services. My power window was a disaster. Their SC banged my car twice! The ONLY thing i like about the car is the FC. And yes, it was a vios.

friend,

don't practise double standard with the things said. what you said is true, but do you know why i used lancer as an example? it's because it is being distributed by EON/Proton. Proton SC is famous for being notorious just as Naza SC is, don't we all agree? And infact, Lancer sales was never significant. but you said that resale value is determined by sales volume, which i really don't think so. the oldest lancer 2.0 is 3 years old, therefore if i say, lancer resale value will be weak because 1) low sales volume 2) bad aftersales because of associations with EON/proton aka lousy which is according to your assesment; will that still be true for another 2 years? who knows....but for now, the figure shows it doesn't.

same thing with forte, the car is barely 1 year old. but already you gave your assesment that Resale value will be poor since its Naza, which is more like speculation. you can't consider speculation or your perception as a fact, and then bring it as point. it's not, because we still can't tell. you said it aint fair to compare lancer because the car is not "old" enough, well same thing with forte. but using lancer as a comparison is not that far off because of they have almost similar associations (bad SC, not as strong branding as T&H, etc. etc)

you know what, i would agree with your assessment if you would stop using poor resale value as a point when discussing forte. infact, the last time i got into a discussion with you, i've already stated this, but somehow that discussion got carried away. so do we have an agreement now that you are speculating on the poor resale value of forte? other points are also questionable but since you agree that resale value cannot be determined by short period comparison, so at least this point is clearly "out of question & discussion" until time can tell. ok?

This post has been edited by eddie_al: Oct 5 2010, 06:06 PM

current vios... although a lot ppl bash it using same engine and gearbox, but EPS and E-throttle do help in fuel saving, if u know how to use E-throttle...

Ive always maintained that the Forte resale value will be poor because of the number of original sales. That has not changed. When i talk about resale values im always refering to the nominal time frame of 5-7 yrs. Nobody talks about resale values refering to the 2-3 yr time frame (except you probably)

U brought up the Lancer in comparison with the Civic for a 3 yr period which i think is a silly comparison and i answered u on why the drop in the resale value is similar between both cars (although there is a difference as ive clearly pointed out).

There is no double standards mentioned. Facts are facts and none of it will change. The more u try and find fault with my facts and arguments the more ure gonna lose.

Just for info:

New Kia Forte 1.6SX - RM 81,800
10 month old Forte 1.6SX - RM 70,800

Drop in resale value = 13% in 10 months. Quite OK i guess.

http://www.mudah.my/Kia+Forte+1+6+SX+Auto+...+09-7291504.htm

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 6 2010, 09:51 AM

sigh...whatever. as it seems now, whatever you said - FACTS. whatever others said, no matter how it is put up, NON-FACTS. guess we all have been living in an imaginary world, .

not finding fault with yr facts, unless you have problem understanding my post. i am saying that fact is not yet a fact until forte reaches the years where the resale value is indeed bad. you have already gaven your assesment even before that happened. that's FACT, according to you.

No. What i mentioned about the Forte was my own opinion based on current trends. It cannot be a fact since it has not happened yet. Go read all my posts before commenting and making a fool out of yorself.

i remembered you saying, "dont take example of one bad experiance and concludes it as a general statement". you don't need me to find where you said that right?

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Added on October 6, 2010, 9:54 amFacts are facts and none of it will change <- you said

brother, stop spinning around. it's getting ugly.

i already said i agree with your assesment, only not the resale value part because it's still not time to tell.

This post has been edited by eddie_al: Oct 6 2010, 09:55 AM

The facts were regarding the resale value period of assumption being 5-7yrs. How can one possibly say that something is a fact when it hasnt happened? Grow up bro. Ure pushing yerself further and further down the pit.

http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+vios+s+spec+1+5...+09-6408652.htm
http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Vios+1+5+S+Spec...ond-7168059.htm

original vios s price = rm88K
2nd hand value = rm75K

drop in value = rm13K

Do u see the words 'just for info'? Do u know what that means? Go use a disctionary if u have problems with vocab. Its for everybody's INFORMATION as it could be the 1st 2nd hand Kia Forte up for sale.

Again, dont bother trying. Ure up against a wall in this case.

Read my post above before commenting. Ure again making a fool out of yerself (as usual)


Its difficult to judge any car for the first 2-3 yrs. Even a Vios loses alot in the first 3 yrs. If u want a real comparison, do it for cars 5 yrs and older.

then dont quote forte 2nd value for first year. u make yourself look fool.

I gave it for info purposes since that could be the 1st Forte on 2nd hand sale. Dont tell me what i can or cannot quote. if u want fight facts with facts but never prevent someone from sharing.

Actually bro, I think we should look at the floor price of the car. For example, Vios lowest price you can find is about RM40k+ cheapest, while for lower price you can get hyundai models that are marketed at a higher range compared to Toyota Vios.

What I'm trying to say is, the new Waja maybe have good resale value if the car is problematic free. From the current trend it seems that Proton have improved vastly.

don't drag the discussion further from where it was originally. please refer back your own post. you gave your assessment on VIOS vs Forte, i am only disagreeing "the resale value will be poor", because there is no substantiate info yet to say so. is it so hard to recognize that keep "poor resale" out of the discussion? it is called speculation. you speculated because you had bad experiance with Kia/Hyundai. Well, thank you for your info.

But don't make it a critical point as the way you put in yr assessment. it shouldn't be there. drop the defensive stance and read with open mind.

i used lancer as a poor comparison since even the model itself is also new, but since you see it viable to say Forte will be weak without it reaching it's period, so i thought i could too. but you do not seem to practise same standard with the things you said.

Its like shooting your own foot u know?

Resale value will be poor since its Naza and if sale numbers dont improve

The word 'will be' is quite different from 'is'. It shows something happening in the future so it cant be a fact as ure trying to imply. Plus again ive stated its sales figures which affect the resale value among others.

How can i speculate on resale value based on my bad experience with Kia/Hundai? Doesnt make sense at all. Resale values are determined by brand perception and demand which are reflected in sales numbers (not refering to the unique & highly specialised models).

Still trying eh? Well, try harder my friend. Ure clearly not cut out to be a lawyer.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 6 2010, 10:55 AM

please don't change subject. you want to talk about the grammar status of "will be" now?

if that's how you want to say it, the correct term would have been "might be". please, stop being defensive.

My arguments have always been constant in case u havent noticed. I just love guys like you who try so hard to find fault in my arguments and yet fail. When will u understand that u cannot win against someone without real facts? If u wanna quote someone, kindly do it with the whole sentence. Else ull just get fried like whats happening now.

Still wanna argue? Well try harder. This is becoming a yawn.

i quote your whole post unless you so conviniently overlook it.

Well i would have reacted in the same way had it been me. So its fair. Hope he has better luck next time.

It's too early to judge Forte's resale value as it's still quite new in the market so no point making speculations that it will have poor resale value.
I just don't understand, why people care so much about resale value? Buy a car, enjoy the experience of driving. If you care so much about resale value, get a bicycle or a motorcycle. Seriously, enjoy the comfort and experience of driving.

How bout Forte spare is it affordable if u need to replace it?
Compare to Vios the spare parts u can get everywhere & at the reasonable price.
Every car sure got pros & cons see how u look at it.

+1

NAZA will put more efforts on 207 in near future..
so, no doubt, Forte will drop instantaneous..

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Added on October 6, 2010, 6:38 pmFor me i don like forte..
But between vios and forte..
no choice but have to pick forte.. =)

This post has been edited by keeting89: Oct 6 2010, 06:38 PM

I don't understand what's the relevance on this. Peugeot 207 is B-segment and Forte is C-segment. AND how will the effort affect the resale value of forte?

How sure are you? Well, I bought my car without thinking of resale value. Thus, I'm driving continental, better drive, better build, more gadgets. So you will be stuck in your Jap car world for the rest of your life.

in terms of realibily you can't go wrong with toyota

but if you prefer better handling, interior and comfort then you got to choose forte lo

For sure, NAZA will promote heavily on coming Peugeot 207..
For sure sales of forte will decrease la..
as resale value determined by the number of cars in that region..
wont u think it'll be affected?

And the forte sale is worst than proton, surely the resale value worst than proton..

B-seg or C-seg..
This is Malaysia.. u think ppl will wow at u when u driving forte or honda city?
If u are smart buyer that comapred seg to seg.. the most value for money all will go to proton..
am i wrong?

This post has been edited by keeting89: Oct 6 2010, 10:53 PM

Do you know that Peugeot is under NASIM and Naza Kia is two different company altogether? It's Naza group subsidiaries so they will have different marketing strategies. How will it affect forte at all? FYI you will have no idea on the resale value when the car is so new. Unless you can predict the future. It doesn't make sense that Nasim Peugeot releasing 207 will contribute to Forte's resale value.
Chevrolet is under Naza Group as well, has their marketing for Cruze affect forte's resale value?
Show me how is forte's resale value worst that proton since you are so sure about it?

Drop 10k in a year.. RP 81k now 70k [don forget this is used car stil can be negotiated!!!!!!!!!!]
http://www.mudah.my/Kia+Forte+1+6+SX+Auto+...+09-7291504.htm

is it good phenomenan? Forte release in M'sia not even 1 year.. it should be end of december..
so 10month drop 10k..=)

Do you know that all cars depreciate about 10-15% in their first year even Vios? Go do a better research before you start replying.

http://www.mudah.my/Honda+city+1+5+v+tec-6777827.htm
http://www.mudah.my/Honda+City+1+5+i+VTEC+...eat-7317334.htm

84k-79k=5k..

sorry..they might be mistaken.. i shouldnt comment much since i din do much of research..

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Added on October 7, 2010, 12:07 amor else u r blind.. not even 1 year stated there..
adui.. hard to communicate with ur .. maybe ur house full of korean car that y ur so expert into it..
I don drive korean car i dunno much so sorry..

Can i ask whar car u drive?

This post has been edited by keeting89: Oct 7 2010, 12:09 AM

Hello friend, told u to do research properly. That's City E-spec which costs 90k not S. 84k is for S-spec. Kid, I think you better go study for your degree rather than wasting time trying to correct your mistakes.

Nope, my house full of continental cars which i dont think u have any.

car dealer never bother bout when u bough the car. if less than 1 year also consider 1 year lah. aiyoooo


http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+vios+s+spec+1+5...+09-6408652.htm
http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Vios+1+5+S+Spec...ond-7168059.htm

original vios s price = rm88K
2nd hand value = rm75K

drop in value for only 1 year = rm13K

but then i believe vios stil have re-sale value after 5 years.. which is around 55k +/-
If forte can make it.. i'm glad to hear..

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Added on October 7, 2010, 12:27 amthat's disadvatages using real name as nick .. haha..
hero behind the keyboard?

This post has been edited by keeting89: Oct 7 2010, 12:27 AM

There's a reason why we said it's too early to judge. Now you making 5 years comparison when just then you gave us example of 1 year.

resale value in 1 year to judge, are you kidding? the amount for 2nd car is set by owner so maybe the owner in need of money or he is the rich fellow that dun care about the market value and just want to sell the car fast, or the car have "total lost" before unless you have ways to ask the SC to reveal the car details. so if wan judge the resale value of forte i think you should wait few more year later than just conclude it is good or not since the car is no launch more than 1 year

This post has been edited by yeexing: Oct 7 2010, 01:00 AM

Aiya ppl dont care about segments la. How many ppl actually know which segment their car is in? Ppl just look at specs vs price vs looks. If the specs are good and the price reasonable they will buy it.

Agree. Thumbs up!

Another reason why car prices drop the most during the first 3yrs is because ppl are wary about the reasons behind the sale. This is because ppl only sell their car that early because of the following reasons:

1) Accident
2) Migrating overseas
3) Cant service car loan
4) Struck lottery so wanna upgrade

Most of the time its reason No 1. Thats why ppl are scared and this phobia usually brings the car price down as well. The Forte resale value will depend on its sales and also the emergence of other makes with good specs in the next few years.

The Forte will be more at risk as compared to Toyota or Honda because it does not have a loyal brand following like the Japs do. Thats why even though the Toyota Vios is quite a basic car with a high pricetag, it still sells very well. This is of course in addition to the fact that Toyota has among the best after sales service standards in the industry and the best resale value among non-national cars.

All cars even Toyota drop alot in the first 3-5 yrs. So lets wait and see how the Forte holds up. If their sales are good, im sure their resale value will be good.

yalo

A 7 yr Vios only loses about 40% of its resale value.

I heard a 7 year Forte only loses about 35% of its resale value. Dont believe wait for about 7 years then check.

it's too early to judge the forte resale value, cibeimastar is too early to make the assumption yet.

I heard my facts from those who have 7 yr old Vios's while u heard your facts from speculators. I wonder who is accurate in this case.....

Anyway, i doubt there would be many who would keep their Forte's for 7 yrs but again thats just my thoughts. I could be wrong.

I sold my 7 year old vios fr 45k. Mileage 90k. Yes +-45%. But still we cannot determine Forte's resale value as yet and I don't understand why people wouldnt keep their forte for 7 years. There, you are speculating.

This post has been edited by chastise: Oct 8 2010, 06:02 PM